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Zompist's Topic #34675278018
Posted: Sat Aug 16, 2003 8:05 am
by VeganGrinder
I was wondering, is Kebreni still your favortie language of your own? Or is it a new one. I remember from an old post, or it might actually be on VirtuVer, that you said Kebreni was your favorite of the languages so far. Has that changed?
Re: Zompist's Topic #34675278018
Posted: Sat Aug 16, 2003 8:06 am
by Mecislau
Grey wrote:I was wondering, is Kebreni still your favortie language of your own? Or is it a new one. I remember from an old post, or it might actually be on VirtuVer, that you said Kebreni was your favorite of the languages so far. Has that changed?
He said it in the Language Construction Kit:
The LCK wrote:All you could want to know about Verdurian is on the web; the language information is just part of that encyclopedia of Almean life, Virtual Verduria. You might find another of my invented languages, Wede:i, more digestible. I think Kebreni is my favorite, though.
Posted: Sat Aug 16, 2003 10:00 am
by Dudicon
Interesting; I had always assumed it was Verdurian, given the masses of information compiled on it, and the focus on Verdurian culture and history.
Posted: Sat Aug 16, 2003 3:25 pm
by zompist
It's generally safe to say that my favorite is the language I've most recently created-- so, presently Flaidish.
Posted: Sat Aug 16, 2003 6:19 pm
by Dudicon
zompist wrote:It's generally safe to say that my favorite is the language I've most recently created-- so, presently Flaidish.
Oh, right. I
do remember that.
Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2003 7:56 am
by Rory
What about the Elcar?l orthography? Surely that was your most recently created, er, thing.
Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2003 8:13 am
by Mecislau
Rory wrote:What about the Elcar?l orthography? Surely that was your most recently created, er, thing.
I believe he means a full language created. The Elkarîl grammar was already done a while before the script.
Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2003 11:10 am
by Xephyr
Which brings up the question: Zompist, do you consider your more recent conlangs to be 'better done' than the older ones?
Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2003 11:38 am
by zompist
Cevlakohn wrote:Which brings up the question: Zompist, do you consider your more recent conlangs to be 'better done' than the older ones?
Hmm. Yes and no. I've tried some more distinctive things lately, and hopefully the linguistic sophistication is always increasing. On the other hand, the earlier languages generally do what they're supposed to do, and I'm happy with them. Not every language is supposed to be flashy and exotic.
Sometimes I wish I could redo Verdurian from scratch, but that's not likely to happen. I'm also not happy with Axunashin and Xurnese, but there I do have a chance to change them before they're published.
Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2003 11:46 am
by Ghost
zompist wrote:Sometimes I wish I could redo Verdurian from scratch.
Why don't you? You could have a few new word borrowings, e.t.c., and if you wanted to keep the old one, you could have them as two different dialects of Verdurian.
Ghost

Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2003 12:00 pm
by zompist
Ghost wrote:zompist wrote:Sometimes I wish I could redo Verdurian from scratch.
Why don't you? You could have a few new word borrowings, e.t.c., and if you wanted to keep the old one, you could have them as two different dialects of Verdurian.
Eh, it's not really worth the year or more it would take.
Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2003 12:03 pm
by Mecislau
zompist wrote:Ghost wrote:zompist wrote:Sometimes I wish I could redo Verdurian from scratch.
Why don't you? You could have a few new word borrowings, e.t.c., and if you wanted to keep the old one, you could have them as two different dialects of Verdurian.
Eh, it's not really worth the year or more it would take.
What would you want to change?
Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2003 12:51 pm
by zompist
Maknas wrote:What would you want to change?
Many of the lexical borrowings are too superficial. I borrowed a lot of Russian words without knowing their structure.
The morphological system has got too many of the wrong sort of irregularities-- that is, those that can't be traced back to an earlier, regular system.
I like the etymologies for the most part, but some of them are still a bit unlikely-- mostly common words that couldn't be nicely derived from Cadhinor.
Hmm, maybe someday I should just re-derive it from Cadhinor. I'm a lot more satisfied with Barakhinei and Ismain.
Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2003 10:19 pm
by jburke
zompist wrote:Maknas wrote:What would you want to change?
Many of the lexical borrowings are too superficial. I borrowed a lot of Russian words without knowing their structure.
The morphological system has got too many of the wrong sort of irregularities-- that is, those that can't be traced back to an earlier, regular system.
I like the etymologies for the most part, but some of them are still a bit unlikely-- mostly common words that couldn't be nicely derived from Cadhinor.
Hmm, maybe someday I should just re-derive it from Cadhinor. I'm a lot more satisfied with Barakhinei and Ismain.
Verdurian is a classic conlang; I'd hate to see it changed in any major way. I appreciate the desire for historically justified chaos (and I always try to justify my own irregularities historically), but sometimes there are kinks in languages that just can't be adequately accounted for. They're just there. It could be that way with Verdurian, and would make it, IMO, more interesting that a straight (re-)derivation from Cadhinor.
Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2003 8:44 pm
by xirion
i know this is old, but, Zompist, if you feel the same way you could always just, make a new conlang... like a sister language to Verdurian... or something.
thats what i do.... but, dont listen to me, i suck at conlanging... sadly....

Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2003 3:04 pm
by Warmaster
xirion wrote:i know this is old, but, Zompist, if you feel the same way you could always just, make a new conlang... like a sister language to Verdurian... or something.
thats what i do.... but, dont listen to me, i suck at conlanging... sadly....

He's still got Sarroc to do

Posted: Sat Aug 30, 2003 12:49 am
by Drydic
Warmaster wrote:xirion wrote:i know this is old, but, Zompist, if you feel the same way you could always just, make a new conlang... like a sister language to Verdurian... or something.
thats what i do.... but, dont listen to me, i suck at conlanging... sadly....

He's still got Sarroc to do

True. All
we know is that the equivilent of
dalu is
dhaol, and it also has partly kept the static~dynamic tense distinction.