Skourene Historical Atlas, Flash Style
Skourene Historical Atlas, Flash Style
Just saw it pop up on the RSS feed and give it a whirl. It looks amazing, a great use of layers and so forth. But, obviously it's not done. I get redirected to a 404 - Time Frame Not Found when I click History, and clicking "Stepped" causing the animation to kick me out fast.
Otherwise... good job!
Otherwise... good job!
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Re: Skourene Historical Atlas, Flash Style
Danged Flash and danged ISP. I think (crossing fingers) these two problems are fixed.Neek wrote:Just saw it pop up on the RSS feed and give it a whirl. It looks amazing, a great use of layers and so forth. But, obviously it's not done. I get redirected to a 404 - Time Frame Not Found when I click History, and clicking "Stepped" causing the animation to kick me out fast.
The commentary tries to open up in a window called "commentary". Occasionally it replaces the atlas instead of creating a new window; I think this happens when I've been re-using a commentary window for browsing. I'm not sure if there's a fix for this; but if it happens to you, just open the swf file in a different browser window.
Just finished reading the first part of the history--thank you very much! I've often thought that the Skorene cities were reminiscent of the classical Greek states in some respects (although not in climate, admittedly), and this element comes through quite clearly. I found the discussions of political systems and religion particularly interesting, and I look forward to seeing how both develop as the atlas progresses.
(Coincidentally, it also gave me a few thoughts and ideas regarding a similar people in my own consetting... )
I also finally cycled through the existing portion of the maps. For me, as for Neek, the "Stepped" button kicks the animation of the map into ultra-fast mode (although you can click on a year in the menu to make it stop). In addition, I also discovered the rather gory consequences of trying to look too far ahead.
p@,
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(Coincidentally, it also gave me a few thoughts and ideas regarding a similar people in my own consetting... )
I also finally cycled through the existing portion of the maps. For me, as for Neek, the "Stepped" button kicks the animation of the map into ultra-fast mode (although you can click on a year in the menu to make it stop). In addition, I also discovered the rather gory consequences of trying to look too far ahead.
p@,
Glenn
Would that be the warrior taking the other guy's head off? It made me laugh so much!Glenn wrote:I also discovered the rather gory consequences of trying to look too far ahead.
p@,
Glenn
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Very good work! As usual, of course, but this time you have outdone yourself with the graphics and visuals, Mark. I could never "get" Skourene history when I read the parts concerning it in the original atlas, so I am pleased you undertook this project. I can appreciate the Littoral now; whereas before it was an irritating puzzle to me.
However, the Gentium coding only works for the top part of the page for me! Then it's back to blocks. Do you know what the problem is?
I'd have to say my favorite city-state so far is Tisuram. They're clever! As others have said, Skourene squabbling is reminiscent of the ancient Greeks, but has a definite flavor of its own. But with all this war, how do they manage to get anything done? Doesn't it wreak havoc on the demographics? Or do their wives at home rear a lot of children?
Very good work! As usual, of course, but this time you have outdone yourself with the graphics and visuals, Mark. I could never "get" Skourene history when I read the parts concerning it in the original atlas, so I am pleased you undertook this project. I can appreciate the Littoral now; whereas before it was an irritating puzzle to me.
However, the Gentium coding only works for the top part of the page for me! Then it's back to blocks. Do you know what the problem is?
I'd have to say my favorite city-state so far is Tisuram. They're clever! As others have said, Skourene squabbling is reminiscent of the ancient Greeks, but has a definite flavor of its own. But with all this war, how do they manage to get anything done? Doesn't it wreak havoc on the demographics? Or do their wives at home rear a lot of children?
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Should be fixed now.Euskera wrote:However, the Gentium coding only works for the top part of the page for me! Then it's back to blocks. Do you know what the problem is?
War doesn't directly affect demographics much-- WWII, for instance, is barely a jiggle in Europe's population curves. (Utter defeat or genocide has a big impact, of course, but that didn't come up in Skouras.)But with all this war, how do they manage to get anything done? Doesn't it wreak havoc on the demographics? Or do their wives at home rear a lot of children?
As well, the Skourenes weren't always at war. A historical atlas tends to talk a lot about wars, since they rearrange the borders so much!
And so it is.zompist wrote:Should be fixed now.Euskera wrote:However, the Gentium coding only works for the top part of the page for me! Then it's back to blocks. Do you know what the problem is?
Yet more pearls of wisdom from zompistzompist wrote:War doesn't directly affect demographics much-- WWII, for instance, is barely a jiggle in Europe's population curves. (Utter defeat or genocide has a big impact, of course, but that didn't come up in Skouras.)
As well, the Skourenes weren't always at war. A historical atlas tends to talk a lot about wars, since they rearrange the borders so much!
I'm curious about the so-called "cold war": how much of the city-states' stance was based on actual ideological morals versus simply wanting more territory and wealth? Was there a sector of the people who charged their respective governments' stances were hypocritical in that they claimed to be fighting for high ideals when actually they simply wanted more earthly goods?
Io wrote:Seriously, do you take it as an obligation to be the sort of cunt you are?
Interesting question. I'm inclined to answer that the conflict was 80% ideological, and 80% material. And heck, 50% stupidity and tribalism.Euskera wrote:I'm curious about the so-called "cold war": how much of the city-states' stance was based on actual ideological morals versus simply wanting more territory and wealth? Was there a sector of the people who charged their respective governments' stances were hypocritical in that they claimed to be fighting for high ideals when actually they simply wanted more earthly goods?
Extreme cynicism about one's society is common in our world, and shouldn't be assumed to be common in all times or places. I think it's largely an indicator of stress due to change: new ideas and situations and classes are rising, and the inability of the old ones to quickly adapt becomes evident. In a quieter era, when young people's lives will be pretty much the same as their elders', I think a general acceptance of the status quo is more likely.
That said, if any people on ancient Almea was likely to harbor a modernist skepticism about their rulers, it was the Skourenes.
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Note that this is the answer to Euskera's question!Shm Churmey wrote:I'm rather inclined to think that there's some level of overlap between ideology, tribalism, and material necessity.
1. This is most easily seen in the Historical Atlas of Almea, the 'Europe' map.How big is Skouras by the way? My guess is around the size of Britain...
And who's the throat-cutting barbarian?
2. The animation represents a Skourene encountering a Mei.
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