Good news, everyone

So Haleza Grise · Post by **So Haleza Grise** » Sat Feb 27, 2010 6:27 pm

Looks like Lé has a grammar now.

dhok · Post by **dhok** » Sat Feb 27, 2010 6:56 pm

This kind of isn't news...

Dewrad · Post by **Dewrad** » Sat Feb 27, 2010 7:01 pm

Hopefully it'll be up on Zompist.com pretty soon: I'm looking forward to how zompist handles an isolating language.

So Haleza Grise · Post by **So Haleza Grise** » Sat Feb 27, 2010 7:10 pm

Daquarious P. McFizzle wrote:This kind of isn't news...

Is there a thread that talks about it somewhere else?

dhok · Post by **dhok** » Sat Feb 27, 2010 7:15 pm

Dewrad wrote:Hopefully it'll be up on Zompist.com pretty soon: I'm looking forward to how zompist handles an isolating language.

I think we'll probably see Uyse7 before that.

Dewrad · Post by **Dewrad** » Sat Feb 27, 2010 8:34 pm

Daquarious P. McFizzle wrote:
Dewrad wrote:Hopefully it'll be up on Zompist.com pretty soon: I'm looking forward to how zompist handles an isolating language.
I think we'll probably see Uyse7 before that.

I doubt it.

Zompist, on the [url=http://www.almeopedia.com/index.php/Uyseʔ]Uyseʔ page[/url] in Almeopedia wrote:Info available : lexicon (~100 words)

However, on the [url=http://www.almeopedia.com/index.php/Le]Lé page[/url], he wrote:Info available: grammar (~1100 words)

Mornche Geddick · Post by **Mornche Geddick** » Mon Mar 01, 2010 6:22 am

But we wouldn't have the sayings of Nyekhen without an Uyse? grammar.

So Haleza Grise · Post by **So Haleza Grise** » Mon Mar 01, 2010 6:45 am

Mornche Geddick wrote:But we wouldn't have the sayings of Nyekhen without an Uyse? grammar.

Only enough grammar to create those specific utterances I'd say. "Behind the curtain" I think Zompist has created these sentences with general notions of how Uyse7 syntax works, and will extract more specific rules from them "in reverse" when developing the grammar. He works like that a lot - in the case of Tzhuro as well, for example.

dhok · Post by **dhok** » Mon Mar 01, 2010 9:18 am

So Haleza Grise wrote:
Mornche Geddick wrote:But we wouldn't have the sayings of Nyekhen without an Uyse? grammar.
Only enough grammar to create those specific utterances I'd say. "Behind the curtain" I think Zompist has created these sentences with general notions of how Uyse7 syntax works, and will extract more specific rules from them "in reverse" when developing the grammar. He works like that a lot - in the case of Tzhuro as well, for example.

If you read some of the old board posts from the e-mail days, people thought he'd worked a lot on Xurno when they asked questions. He didn't: it's simply that if you show people specific examples, they'll think you have the general picture.

Post by **zompist** » Mon Mar 01, 2010 7:26 pm

Actually there are now nearly complete grammars of both Lé and Uyseʔ. The latter needs some more work, mostly vocabulary creation. I may also create one more Lé sample text, as none of the ones I have are from native Lé speakers!

The other missing bit is the writing system... I hate to release them without something on this.

So, yes, they're close, but not done.

dhok · Post by **dhok** » Mon Mar 01, 2010 9:12 pm

zompist wrote:Actually there are now nearly complete grammars of both Lé and Uyseʔ. The latter needs some more work, mostly vocabulary creation. I may also create one more Lé sample text, as none of the ones I have are from native Lé speakers!

The other missing bit is the writing system... I hate to release them without something on this.

So, yes, they're close, but not done.

Hurray! So, do we get them soon?

brandrinn · Post by **brandrinn** » Tue Mar 02, 2010 8:07 am

Christ, it must feel like tending to a nest of baby birds.

alice · Post by **alice** » Tue Mar 02, 2010 8:14 am

zompist wrote:The other missing bit is the writing system... I hate to release them without something on this.

I'm sure Serali could oblige

masako · Post by **masako** » Tue Mar 02, 2010 11:06 am

bricka wrote:
zompist wrote:The other missing bit is the writing system... I hate to release them without something on this.
I'm sure Serali could oblige

Funny because it's lame.

Mbwa · Post by **Mbwa** » Tue Mar 02, 2010 5:30 pm

I guess it's news to me because I don't follow updates closely. But cool, I was looking forward to this one.

Serali · Post by **Serali** » Tue Mar 02, 2010 9:17 pm

zompist wrote:The other missing bit is the writing system... I hate to release them without something on this.

So, yes, they're close, but not done.

Ooooooooooh!

I look forward to this immensely! Zompist makes pretty scripties.

eodrakken · Post by **eodrakken** » Wed Mar 03, 2010 12:22 am

Looking forward to all this, whenever it's done of course. Honestly I think zomp works pretty quickly, considering the level of detail and completeness!

So Haleza Grise · Post by **So Haleza Grise** » Wed Mar 03, 2010 7:40 pm

I suppose we'll discover soon enough, but are there any terrestrial sources for the vocabulary of Uy7se and/or Lé?

Also, the Kebreni lexicon lists the word celu as coming from "Belesawa". I assume that is meant to be Lé?

Post by **zompist** » Wed Mar 03, 2010 10:08 pm

So Haleza Grise wrote:Also, the Kebreni lexicon lists the word celu as coming from "Belesawa". I assume that is meant to be Lé?

Yes, that was an early attempt at the native name. Forgot about that word; I'd better find out if it's actually there.

Atom · Post by **Atom** » Sun Mar 14, 2010 10:54 am

zompist wrote:The other missing bit is the writing system... I hate to release them without something on this.

So, yes, they're close, but not done.

Considering theres now a writing sample up for Uyseʔ (which looks really nice by the way), I have a feeling were getting much closer.

Serali · Post by **Serali** » Sun Mar 14, 2010 8:55 pm

Oh pretty scripty!

I like this alot! Please when you get the chance post the whole syllabary.

Thank you.

What would the Uyseʔ call boingies in their language?