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Cadhinorian phonotactics

Posted: Mon May 10, 2010 7:12 pm
by rotting bones
Don't you think words like PELEGUT and SNUCET totally ruin the classical Graeco-Latin effect? Or was Zompist deliberately aiming for a more Balto-Slavic sound so as to break the stereotype?

Posted: Mon May 10, 2010 7:33 pm
by Dewrad
While some of Zompist's languages can be reminiscent of a terrestrial language, I don't think any of them attempt to fully capture the phonotactics and aesthetics of any earth language. Cuezi and Flaidish are probably the two which come closest (particularly Flaidish), but in both cases there's a large degree of difference.

Posted: Mon May 10, 2010 7:50 pm
by rotting bones
Dewrad wrote:While some of Zompist's languages can be reminiscent of a terrestrial language, I don't think any of them attempt to fully capture the phonotactics and aesthetics of any earth language. Cuezi and Flaidish are probably the two which come closest (particularly Flaidish), but in both cases there's a large degree of difference.
I for one certainly wouldn't want Almean languages to "fully capture" the essence of any single terrestrial language. It's just that in my opinion, words like PELEGUT push Cadhinorian phototactics a good couple of light years away from the classical European aesthetic ideal. I have no problem with that whatsoever. I'm just wondering about Zompist's goals in fixing the phonology of Cadhinor.

Posted: Mon May 10, 2010 7:55 pm
by zompist
There's no intention to make Cadhinor very close to Latin, and in fact it would be quite difficult given the heavy Russian influence on Verdurian.

Posted: Mon May 10, 2010 8:40 pm
by rotting bones
zompist wrote:There's no intention to make Cadhinor very close to Latin, and in fact it would be quite difficult given the heavy Russian influence on Verdurian.
Sure, but that doesn't necessarily determine what Cadhinor had to sound like. If you wanted to infuse a feeling of classical antiquity, you could have easily had most modern Central languages descend from a common ancestor, maybe a prakritized Middle Cadhinor, itself a descendant or sister language of a (unstable?) standard register, Classical Cadhinor. I haven't studied the Proto-Eastern page in detail, but it couldn't have been very hard to derive snuga form, say, a slang form of SUNCET or something. Just saying; I like Cadhinor.

Posted: Mon May 10, 2010 11:53 pm
by Nortaneous
rotting ham wrote:It's just that in my opinion, words like PELEGUT push Cadhinorian phototactics a good couple of light years away from the classical European aesthetic ideal.
How so? PELEGUT doesn't sound that non-European to me. I wouldn't be surprised to see it in a Latinish text.

Posted: Tue May 11, 2010 1:20 am
by con quesa
Dewrad wrote:While some of Zompist's languages can be reminiscent of a terrestrial language, I don't think any of them attempt to fully capture the phonotactics and aesthetics of any earth language. Cuezi and Flaidish are probably the two which come closest (particularly Flaidish), but in both cases there's a large degree of difference.
What Earth language is Cuezi particularly reminiscent of?

Posted: Tue May 11, 2010 6:58 am
by Dewrad
con quesa wrote:What Earth language is Cuezi particularly reminiscent of?
Greek, of course.

Posted: Tue May 11, 2010 9:14 am
by rotting bones
Nortaneous wrote:How so? PELEGUT doesn't sound that non-European to me. I wouldn't be surprised to see it in a Latinish text.
Sure, in Portuguese.

I love the word SNUCET, by the way. It sounds like schnook-eth. As in, "The son, to his father, schnooketh." :mrgreen: