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Non-human Ktuvok Empires?

Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 5:12 am
by anacharis
Have there been any Ktuvok empires where the majority of the subjects were one of the non-human Thinking Kinds?
If so, how do they differ from human-majority empires? If not, is this just an accident of history and ecology (what with the humans outnumbering everyone else by so much), or are there biological or sociological factors that make the humans more suited to Ktuvok domination than other thinking kinds?

Also, how long have the Ktuvoks been forming empires? long enough to have had major impact on the biological evolution of anyone else? And just who *were* the subjects of the Ktuvoki empires during their wars with the ilii?

Re: Non-human Ktuvok Empires?

Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 3:03 pm
by zompist
On the whole it's mostly humans:

* the iliu are out (ancient enemies, etc.)
* the icëlani can technically fall under a ktuvok empire, but they're no good as soldiers or slaves
* no one really knows where the flaids were in earlier epochs— or the rifters

That leaves the elcari. In Ereláe, they've just been too far from any ktuvok empire to dominate. We don't know about the northern hemisphere.

However, note that the Count of Years claims that the elcari joined with the ktuvoks in the 7th of the iliu-ktuvok wars. So in the previous epochs there were elcari subjects of ktuvok empires at least.

The iliu-ktuvok wars date back somewhere between 35,000 and 100,000 years, so they're unlikely to have affected evolution. But ktuvok and iliu abilities would have developed long before they were 'civilized'. (It's possible that humans are particular susceptible to ktuvoks because they didn't have any opportunity to evolve natural defenses.)