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On Krwŋese
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Author:  Pedant [ Wed Jun 10, 2015 6:15 pm ]
Post subject:  On Krwŋese

It's an odd thing, I realize, but I was looking over the Krwŋese cognates in the Uyseʔ lexicon, and I thought I'd make a list of all the cognate sounds in the set. For example:
Fwnoy/Funuy/"sacrifice to ancestors"
Understandable enough; so /u/ in Uyseʔ is /w/ in Krwŋese after a consonant, or /o/ before a /j/. Next:
Okay, so /u/ is /w/ here, but where did the /ŋ/ come from? Was it there all along, and altered by position in fwnoy, so "sacrifice" would actually be **fwŋ? And then:
Nyekyɔu/Nyekyau/"(son) of-shrine"
Actually, to be fair, Zompist did comment on the vowel shift in the Historical Atlas. I think I'd better look back and see if there are any more words...
What I'm getting at here is: was there ever a Proto-Uyseʔ set up? Or are the sound changes just likely cognates from relatives in the area? I'm curious in part because I've been doing some (probably illegal) work on Siadese, and even there one finds some irregularities (unless they're just more complex changes that I've missed; equally possible).

Author:  Pedant [ Mon Jun 15, 2015 1:18 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: On Krwŋese

Any thoughts?

Author:  zompist [ Mon Jun 15, 2015 1:39 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: On Krwŋese

Don't bump threads here. If you look at my blog you will see that I am preoccupied right now.

Author:  Pedant [ Mon Jun 15, 2015 2:19 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: On Krwŋese

My sincerest apologies, and condolences. I didn't realize. I'll cease in future.

Author:  zompist [ Sat Jul 04, 2015 11:44 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: On Krwŋese

Had some time to check notes. Two more to add to your list:

Photwor / Photwr (a city)
Solsrin / Susirn (an emperor)

Uyseʔ is a sister language of Krwŋese, so the reason for alternations like Krun/Krwŋ undoubtedly lie in the proto-language.

I didn't work out an actual proto-Uyseʔ. However, I do have a small set of sound changes for deriving Siadese words.

Author:  Pedant [ Mon Jul 06, 2015 11:33 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: On Krwŋese

Right! That makes a lot more sense.

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