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Meli d?ne, Zomp. I have a good question about Isma?n. The history of its sound changes would seem that the language's phonetical boundaries (rather, morphological boundaries) would collide; that is, certain factors of a word (like the voiceness or fricativeness of a final consonant, the pronounciation of a final, unstressed vowel) would be more based on enviromental factors, which is a bit like Russian, French, or (to a greater extent) Catalan. Does Isma?n take that into account?

I'm not following... can you give an example of these collisions?

Dunno about Isma?n, but like French dix [dis], [di], etc.

Another question: Where did you come up with (or rather, they come up with) the letter for ??

zompist wrote:I'm not following... can you give an example of these collisions?

Okay, I know I'm not too concise. I'm not sure what to call the phenomenon of voicing final consonants if the following word begins with a vowel, but I also refer to liason, and also atonic particles--such as pronouns, articles, certain adverbs, which lack stress of their own and become part of a stressed word (similar to the polisynthetic phenomena found in French).

Drydic_guy wrote:DAnother question: Where did you come up with (or rather, they come up with) the letter for ??

It's a variation on c (and in fact ? developed historically out of certain c's).

(Staring at the phonology just now, I realized that the j character is rather unmotivated: it's related to the Verdurian :ch which however doesn't exist in Isma?n. Hopefully it will make more sense when more is known about Old Isma?n/Old Verdurian...

Nikolai, I have to admit that I haven't thought much about cliticization or liaison in Isma?n. Could be very interesting to work out, though.

Considering Isma?n phonological development, indeed, it would be very interesting to see liaison/cliticization/elision (that's another I couldn't find the word for) in Isma?n. It would just seem something befitting of the language (not really because of the Frenchy feel, but rather, the phonological evolution and syllable downsizing)

OK, looking back at the Isma?n page, I meant the letter for s.

Ah! It's the letter shen without one of the curving arcs. (More precisely, it is the letter shen-- that is, that's the Isma?n way of writing it. Of course they want to print it that way as well, so (say) Verdurian scholars treat it as a new (foreign) letter separate from shen.)