Verdurian has been converted

vec · Post by **vec** » Sun Dec 26, 2004 6:06 pm

Wow, that looks great. I'm still gonna bug you about two things; I see you've changed a bit about the phonology section but you still write that n becomes [N] before k and g, lacks "before c" and "platir, druk, gliny, kricha " contains an italiced error. But I can't see any other thing wrong so I just congratulate you!

Glenn · Post by **Glenn** » Sun Dec 26, 2004 11:32 pm

Wow! That happened a lot faster than I expected...

In looking over the converted Verdurian grammar, my immediate reaction is a visual one: from my previous readings of the grammar, I have become so deeply accustomed to the digraphs you used previously in place of the preferred diacritics (i.e., Adhivro for Ad'ivro, Dashcor Churmey for Da?cor Čurmey, etc.), that seeing the text with the actual diacritics in place will take me quite some time to get used to, I fear.

Still, my congratulations; good luck on converting the remainder of the site, if such is your wish!

p@,
Glenn

Xeon · Post by **Xeon** » Mon Dec 27, 2004 3:14 am

Excellent! One small thing that I noticed is that in the Verdurian-English Dictionary, the index at the top of the page needs to be updated; Ch, Dh, Rh, Sh, and Zh still appear in the index, rather than the unicode characters.

Jipí · Post by **Jipí** » Mon Dec 27, 2004 8:28 am

What the hell are you talking about?

pharazon · Post by **pharazon** » Mon Dec 27, 2004 8:37 am

guitarplayer wrote:What the hell are you talking about?

Don't you keep the zompist.com change log open all the time and refresh every 2 minutes??????

Glenn · Post by **Glenn** » Mon Dec 27, 2004 11:39 pm

pharazon wrote:
guitarplayer wrote:What the hell are you talking about?
Don't you keep the zompist.com change log open all the time and refresh every 2 minutes??????

No; I don't, actually.

Carsten: Mark recently converted the Web pages of his Verdurian grammar to Unicode, thus enabling him to use the Unicode characters he prefers for transcribing Verdurian into the Latin alphabet (with diacritics, etc., not available in the previous font); he's been gradually converting the various pages of Virtual Verduria in this fashion.

Xeon wrote:Excellent! One small thing that I noticed is that in the Verdurian-English Dictionary, the index at the top of the page needs to be updated; Ch, Dh, Rh, Sh, and Zh still appear in the index, rather than the unicode characters.

Incidentally, the same is true for the table of contents in the article on Cad'inorian paganism; it still retains the previous spellings for "Adhivro" and "Churmey". Just adding to the nitpicking...

p@,
Glenn

Jipí · Post by **Jipí** » Tue Dec 28, 2004 7:03 am

Glenn Kempf wrote:
pharazon wrote:
guitarplayer wrote:What the hell are you talking about?
Don't you keep the zompist.com change log open all the time and refresh every 2 minutes??????
No; I don't, actually.

/me seconds that

Maybe Zomp should set up an RSS thingy so that you addicts immediately know that there's been a change?

Glenn Kempf wrote:Carsten: Mark recently converted the Web pages of his Verdurian grammar to Unicode, thus enabling him to use the Unicode characters he prefers for transcribing Verdurian into the Latin alphabet (with diacritics, etc., not available in the previous font); he's been gradually converting the various pages of Virtual Verduria in this fashion.

Oh! OK.

Herra Ratatoskr · Post by **Herra Ratatoskr** » Wed Jan 05, 2005 1:12 am

*Realizes he failed to notice this thread and decides to wish Zomp a belated congratulations.

Yah!!!

vlaran of verduria · Post by **vlaran of verduria** » Wed Jan 05, 2005 6:05 am

Kl, I never noticed the log until now.

Post by **zompist** » Wed Jan 05, 2005 10:09 am

Thanks for the nitpicks. Now that I finally have Internet at home again, I can fix them.

jonr · Post by **jonr** » Thu Jan 06, 2005 2:47 am

Will Tshur and Shalea change?

Jon

Post by **zompist** » Thu Jan 06, 2005 9:59 am

jonr wrote:Will Tshur and Shalea change?

Heh. I don't know if phpBB even allows Unicode in rank headings. Feel free to use it when referring to the ranks.

Drydic · Post by **Drydic** » Fri Jan 07, 2005 2:26 pm

zompist wrote:
jonr wrote:Will Tshur and Shalea change?
Heh. I don't know if phpBB even allows Unicode in rank headings. Feel free to use it when referring to the ranks.

Always have.

tatapyranga · Post by **tatapyranga** » Sun Jan 09, 2005 9:54 am

I would also like they written as T?ur and ?alea.

butsuri · Post by **butsuri** » Mon Jan 10, 2005 10:37 am

guitarplayer wrote:Maybe Zomp should set up an RSS thingy so that you addicts immediately know that there's been a change? ;)

You know, I for one would really rather like that.

Drydic · Post by **Drydic** » Fri Jan 14, 2005 11:35 pm

butsuri wrote:
guitarplayer wrote:Maybe Zomp should set up an RSS thingy so that you addicts immediately know that there's been a change?
You know, I for one would really rather like that.

At one point Philip Newton did one like that, but it never worked.

vlad · Post by **vlad** » Thu Jan 20, 2005 12:23 pm

Verdurian Phonology wrote:A following y or ? palatalizes a preceding n or l to [?] and [λ], as in Italian bagno, baglio.

All the other transcriptions use IPA, but it isn't used here. Shouldn't they be [ɲ] and [ʎ]?

Post by **zompist** » Thu Jan 20, 2005 3:55 pm

vlad wrote:
Verdurian Phonology wrote:A following y or ? palatalizes a preceding n or l to [?] and [λ], as in Italian bagno, baglio.
All the other transcriptions use IPA, but it isn't used here. Shouldn't they be [ɲ] and [ʎ]?

On my system, at least, your question answers itself: should they be unknown box characters? No.

For some reason, both Apple and Microsoft think that Americans need full Chinese support, traditional and simplified, but no IPA. When they change their minds, I can start using IPA on my pages.

Circeus · Post by **Circeus** » Thu Jan 20, 2005 8:12 pm

Most of the time, it's a question of fonts. Wikipedia solved that by usinf a special list of fonts around IPA encoding.

You'll want to look over here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:IPA

Post by **zompist** » Fri Jan 21, 2005 2:15 am

Circ?us wrote:Most of the time, it's a question of fonts. Wikipedia solved that by usinf a special list of fonts around IPA encoding.

You'll want to look over here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:IPA

They solve the problem by, in effect, asking users to have certain fonts installed; I don't like that approach. My goal is to have my pages look OK on most anybody's computer. It's no solution to require particular browsers, machines, or fonts.