Post your conlang's phonology

[Mystery]

I'm not sure about the Romanization though ... not that it matters since I'm working on a logogramic system, and it's supposed to be just a way of quickly writing it down, but still ...

[kanejam]

Hellesan

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This is very cool and very detailed. It certainly has a romance feel about it. Could you give a couple of example sentences with pronunciation in each of the separate dialects for comparison? That would be awesome!

[Izambri]

Hellesan

[...]

This is very cool and very detailed. It certainly has a romance feel about it. Could you give a couple of example sentences with pronunciation in each of the separate dialects for comparison? That would be awesome!

―Àn iaz, onell, te iaz erd nell? ―Man se nyare, te em dago tresell

Standard Western Hellesan (Gabalean, Caledian, Mindheledean, Garmançan, Armassac)
[an jaz uˈneʎ təˈjaz ɛɾ neʎ mənsəˈɲaɾə təmˈdaɣu tɾəˈzeʎ]

Notes: onell [oˈneʎ], erd [əɾ] and dago [ˈdaɣo] in Garamançan.

Standard Eastern Hellesan (Sardegan, Malvansan, Maidandese, Maurençan, Tavissan, Zarian)
[an jaz oˈneʎ teˈjaz ɛɾ neʎ manseˈɲaɾe temˈdaɣo tɾeˈzeʎ]

Notes: iaz [dʑaz] in Maurençan, Tavissan and Zarian. Nyare [ɲaɾɔ] in Malvansan and Sardegan, [ɲaɾɪ] in Maidandese. And let's not talk about Maurençan vowel harmony, I want this post to be short.

Not many dialectal differences in this example. With longer texts we would find more differences, obviously. The most notable oddities may be the different pronounciations of –e and –a as femenine endings in the Eastern Block and the elision of final occlusives in Malvansan and Sardegan but, to be fair, Hellesan dialects are relatively uniform.

[Ser]

Remind me, what's the point of doing Catalan that is not Catalan?

[Pole, the]

I'm not sure about the Romanization though ... not that it matters since I'm working on a logogramic system, and it's supposed to be just a way of quickly writing it down, but still ...

Seems neat.

I once used ‹ƨ› for /ʃ/ in a 'lang.

[Izambri]

Remind me, what's the point of doing Catalan that is not Catalan?

Yeah, well... Think again!

[Mystery]

I'm not sure about the Romanization though ... not that it matters since I'm working on a logogramic system, and it's supposed to be just a way of quickly writing it down, but still ...

Seems neat.

I once used ‹ƨ› for /ʃ/ in a 'lang.

I'm mostly surprised at how much I changed that, it went from that to:

/m n/ <m n>
/p b t d k g/ <p b t d k g>
/ɸ~β θ~ð s z/ <f ð s z>
/j w/ <j w>
/a ɛ e i/ <a e ê i>

[Nortaneous]

/a ɛ e i/ <a e ê i>

I think you dropped these: [-front] [+round]

[Hallow XIII]

Your vowel system consists only of front vowels.

Hint: doesn't happen, ever.

[Thry]

Remind me, what's the point of doing Catalan that is not Catalan?

Reliving the awesome.

[Ser]

Remind me, what's the point of doing Catalan that is not Catalan?

Reliving the awesome.

But man, even his dialectal differences can be mapped one-by-one to Catalan isoglosses. :|

[Izambri]

Remind me, what's the point of doing Catalan that is not Catalan?

Reliving the awesome.

But man, even his dialectal differences can be mapped one-by-one to Catalan isoglosses.

Nopes

[Mystery]

Your vowel system consists only of front vowels.

Hint: doesn't happen, ever.

Eh, this particular language is supposed to be a heartlang; whether something is natural or not doesn't play a big role here.

[2+3 clusivity]

Eh, this particular language is supposed to be a heartlang

Heartlang or ARTlang?

Either way, if naturalism isn't your goal, go for it.

At any rate, do check out this source that was posted a month or two ago: http://gesc19764.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/v ... stems.html.

[2+3 clusivity]

anokita (~rotokish)

Don't do <p, t, k, m, n, ng, i, e, a>. I'm looking for some oriyizations or something odd.

/p, t, k/ [pʰ ~ φ ~ p, tʰ ~ s ~ t, kʰ ~ x ~ k] <,,>
/m, n, ŋ/ [m ~ β̃~ mb, n ~ r̃ ~ nd, ŋ ~ ɣ̃ ~ ŋg] <,,> (not sure if a nasalized trill is possible, but maybe it's denasal(ized)?)
/i, e, a/ [i ~ ũ, e ~ õ, a ~ ɒ̃] <,,>

CV

/itinetare amakam iba ininipamira nipatimera/
[isir̃õsañõ aβ̃ɒ̃kamb iβ̃ɒ̃ ir̃ũr̃φaβ̃ũr̃ɒ̃ nũφasiβ̃õr̃ɒ̃]

[Nortaneous]

Latin:
/p, t, k/ [pʰ ~ φ ~ p, tʰ ~ s ~ t, kʰ ~ x ~ k] <p ~ f ~ b, t ~ s ~ d, k ~ x ~ g>
/m, n, ŋ/ [m ~ β̃~ mb, n ~ r̃ ~ nd, ŋ ~ ɣ̃ ~ ŋg] <m ~ v ~ mb, n (nn V_ to distinguish from vVn) ~ r ~ nd, ng ~ gh ~ ng>
/i, e, a/ [i ~ ũ, e ~ õ, a ~ ɒ̃] <i ~ un, e ~ on, a ~ an>

/itinetare amakam iba ininipamira nipatimera/
[isir̃õsañõ aβ̃ɒ̃kamb iβ̃ɒ̃ ir̃ũr̃φaβ̃ũr̃ɒ̃ nũφasiβ̃õr̃ɒ̃]

Isironsanon avankamb ivan irunrfavunran nunfasivonran.
or without Vn and with <au>: Isirosano avaukamb ivau irurfavurau nufasivorau.

Latin, more phonemic:
/p, t, k/ [pʰ ~ φ ~ p, tʰ ~ s ~ t, kʰ ~ x ~ k] <p f p, t s t, k h k>
/m, n, ŋ/ [m ~ β̃~ mb, n ~ r̃ ~ nd, ŋ ~ ɣ̃ ~ ŋg] <m v m, n r n, ng g ng>
/i, e, a/ [i ~ ũ, e ~ õ, a ~ ɒ̃] <i u, e o, a>
Isirosano avakam iva irurfavura nufasivora.

Cyrillic:
/p, t, k/ [pʰ ~ φ ~ p, tʰ ~ s ~ t, kʰ ~ x ~ k] <п ф б, т с д, к х г>
/m, n, ŋ/ [m ~ β̃~ mb, n ~ r̃ ~ nd, ŋ ~ ɣ̃ ~ ŋg] <м в мб, н р нд, ӈ ҕ ӈг>
/i, e, a/ [i ~ ũ, e ~ õ, a ~ ɒ̃] <и у, е о, а ә>
Исиросано авәкамб ивә ирурфавурә нуфасиворә.
Isirosano avәkamb ivә irurfavurә nufasivorә.

Greek:
/p, t, k/ [pʰ ~ φ ~ p, tʰ ~ s ~ t, kʰ ~ x ~ k] <π φ π, τ ς τ, κ χ κ>
/m, n, ŋ/ [m ~ β̃~ mb, n ~ r̃ ~ nd, ŋ ~ ɣ̃ ~ ŋg] <μ β μπ, ν ρ ντ, γ γ γγ>
/i, e, a/ [i ~ ũ, e ~ õ, a ~ ɒ̃] <ι ου, ε ο, α ω>
Ισιροσανο αβωκαμπ ιβω ιρουρφαβουρω νουφασιβορω.
Isirosano abōkamp ibō irourphabourō nouphasivorō.

Fraser:
/p, t, k/ [pʰ ~ φ ~ p, tʰ ~ s ~ t, kʰ ~ x ~ k] <ꓒ ꓩ ꓑ, ꓕ ꓢ ꓔ, ꓘ ꓧ ꓗ>
/m, n, ŋ/ [m ~ β̃~ mb, n ~ r̃ ~ nd, ŋ ~ ɣ̃ ~ ŋg] <ꓟ ꓪ ꓐ, ꓠ ꓤ ꓓ, ꓥ ꓭ ꓖ>
/i, e, a/ [i ~ ũ, e ~ õ, a ~ ɒ̃] <ꓲ ꓲʼ, ꓰ ꓰʼ, ꓮ* ꓮʼ*> * not written after a consonant, <.> for clusters
ꓲꓢꓲꓤꓰʼꓢꓠꓰʼ ꓮꓪꓗꓐ. ꓲꓪ ꓲꓤꓲʼꓤ.ꓩꓪꓲʼꓤ ꓠꓲʼꓩꓢꓲꓪꓰʼꓤ꓿
or ꓲꓢꓲꓤꓰꓢꓠꓰ ꓮꓪꓗꓐ ꓲꓪ ꓲꓤꓲꓤ.ꓩꓪꓲʼꓤ ꓠꓲꓩꓢꓲꓪꓰꓤ꓿
or ꓲꓢꓲꓤꓳꓢꓠꓳ ꓮꓪꓗꓐ ꓲꓪ ꓲꓤꓴꓤ.ꓩꓪꓴꓤ ꓠꓴꓩꓢꓲꓪꓳꓤ꓿
isize̓sne̓ awkb. iw izi̓z.pʰwi̓z ni̓pʰsiwe̓z

Katakana:
/p, t, k/ [pʰ ~ φ ~ p, tʰ ~ s ~ t, kʰ ~ x ~ k] <パ ハ パ、 タ サ タ、 カ カ カ>
/m, n, ŋ/ [m ~ β̃~ mb, n ~ r̃ ~ nd, ŋ ~ ɣ̃ ~ ŋg] <マ ワ バ、 ナ ラ ダ、 ガ ガ ガ> (final -n for ŋ)
/i, e, a/ [i ~ ũ, e ~ õ, a ~ ɒ̃] <イ ウ エ オ ア ア>
イシロサノ アワカㇺ イワ イルㇽハウラ ヌハシヲラ。
Ishirosano awakam iwa irurhaura nuhashiwora.

Tibetan:
/p, t, k/ [pʰ ~ φ ~ p, tʰ ~ s ~ t, kʰ ~ x ~ k] <ཕ ཕ པ, ཐ ས ཏ, ཁ ཁ ཀ>
/m, n, ŋ/ [m ~ β̃~ mb, n ~ r̃ ~ nd, ŋ ~ ɣ̃ ~ ŋg] <མ ཝ བ, ན ར ད, ང ག ག>
/i, e, a/ [i ~ ũ, e ~ õ, a ~ ɒ̃] <པི པུ, པེ པོ, པ པ>
null onset: <ཧ>
ཧིསིརོསནོ་ཧཝཀྨ་ཧིཝ་ཧིརུྲཕཝུར་ནུཕསིཝོར
hisirosano hawakam hiwa hirurphawura nuphasiwora

[2+3 clusivity]

Haha! Excellent. Also thank you for not lambasting me for blindly posting in the wrong forum.

[Matrix]

Here's a phonology I came up with today.

/m, n, ň/ [m, n, ŋ]
/p, t, k, ǩ/ [p, t, k, q]
/s, z, š, ž/ [s, z, ɕ, ʑ]
/f, b, f̌, b̌, c, d, x, g, x̌, ǧ, h, q/ [ɸ, β, f, v, θ, ð, x, ɣ, χ, ʁ, ħ, ʕ]
/ḷ ḹ/ [ɬ, ɮ]
/l/ [l]
/i, u, e, o, a/ [i, u, e, o, a]
/ur, or, ar/ [u^ʁː, o^ʁː, a^ʁː]

The general syllable structure is, like, (C)⁴V(C)⁴. Almost all consonant clusters will involve a fricative in some fashion. Many of those are entirely fricatives. A maximal onset cluster must end in /l/ and a maximal coda cluster must begin in a nasal. They also follow a general sonority hierarchy of V > L/N > F > S > P where V is a vowel, L/N is /l/ or a nasal, F is a non-sibilant fricative (including the lateral fricatives), S is a sibilant fricative, and P is a plosive.

[u^ʁː, o^ʁː, a^ʁː] are these weird things that I discovered I could pronounce a while back. I guess you could call them uvularized vowels, and the best way I can describe them is that they're like pronouncing the vowel simultaneously with a voiced uvular fricative, approximant, or trill.

Example syllables:

ormfsp [o^ʁːmɸsp]
šhaňx̌ [ɕħaŋχ]
ḷf̌le [ɬfle]

[Hallow XIII]

Do you mean these?

[Nortaneous]

Haha! Excellent. Also thank you for not lambasting me for blindly posting in the wrong forum.

god dammit i didn't even notice (*again*)

[Thry]

Nort, do you citate sigma as ς for any particular reason?

[Nortaneous]

Nort, do you citate sigma as ς for any particular reason?

The keyboard I used automatically turns σ to ς before a space.

[Thry]

Right.

[Matrix]

Do you mean these?

I've looked at that article before and I'm not sure if that's it. That's farther back than uvular.

However, I can't find any examples of stridency to listen to, so I can't compare and find out for sure.

[2+3 clusivity]

If you scroll back and forth through this site you might find what you are looking for. Either way it's a great resource.

http://www.ims.uni-stuttgart.de/institu ... /page8.htm