But that's...nothing at all like the system baradsoron has described...KathAveara wrote:Allowing all verbs other than the copula to take exactly one argument. This argument can be used by any number of verbs.
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I think Kath was responding to
And to answer that myself, http://www.zompist.com/elkaril.htm.baradsonoron wrote:An excellent point. Out of interest, what better features have you seen for alienness? I need inspiration.Sir Gwalchafad wrote:Because you just stated that you have departed from all rules. At that point the only feedback you will get is possibly whether people like it or not.
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Wow. That's almost as ugly as Georgian.Drydic Guy wrote:I think Kath was responding toAnd to answer that myself, http://www.zompist.com/elkaril.htm.baradsonoron wrote:An excellent point. Out of interest, what better features have you seen for alienness? I need inspiration.Sir Gwalchafad wrote:Because you just stated that you have departed from all rules. At that point the only feedback you will get is possibly whether people like it or not.
p-tñêchôngmsh "and full of iron ore"
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khilkhkhkhkh 'an ugly, ugly, ugly red' INDIVIDUALLY ARTICULATED CHAINED CONSONANTS FOR THE WINbaradsonoron wrote:Wow. That's almost as ugly as Georgian.Drydic Guy wrote:I think Kath was responding toAnd to answer that myself, http://www.zompist.com/elkaril.htm.baradsonoron wrote:An excellent point. Out of interest, what better features have you seen for alienness? I need inspiration.Sir Gwalchafad wrote:Because you just stated that you have departed from all rules. At that point the only feedback you will get is possibly whether people like it or not.
p-tñêchôngmsh "and full of iron ore"
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Non-ugliness in languages is overrated.baradsonoron wrote:p-tñêchôngmsh "and full of iron ore"
Yeah.
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Yes. One of my conlangs uses single-consonant affixes, so ččččini means "He gave him to him". That's pronounced "ch-ch-ch-chini".Drydic Guy wrote:
khilkhkhkhkh 'an ugly, ugly, ugly red' INDIVIDUALLY ARTICULATED CHAINED CONSONANTS FOR THE WIN
https://soundcloud.com/conor-thompson-2 ... rticulated
The conlang mentioned in the OP uses only consonant clusters, so mv'gdn'gn'ŋb means "I give him them". (them-give-me-him)
http://soundcloud.com/conor-thompson-27 ... t-clusters
Also, just to clear things up, the explanation for the only-consonants is that the language was written much more frequently than it was spoken (in the conworld, this culture values silence), so the written form was the only thing that survived, so when people started speaking the language again, they just assigned nine sounds to the nine letters.
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ččččiabaradsonoron wrote:Yes. One of my conlangs uses single-consonant affixes, so ččččini means "He gave him to him". That's pronounced "ch-ch-ch-chini".
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what?Matrix wrote:ččččiabaradsonoron wrote:Yes. One of my conlangs uses single-consonant affixes, so ččččini means "He gave him to him". That's pronounced "ch-ch-ch-chini".
also, have a script or five.
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http://youtu.be/tzY7qQFij_Mbaradsonoron wrote:what?Matrix wrote:ččččiabaradsonoron wrote:Yes. One of my conlangs uses single-consonant affixes, so ččččini means "He gave him to him". That's pronounced "ch-ch-ch-chini".
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzY7qQFij_Mbaradsonoron wrote:what?Matrix wrote:ččččiabaradsonoron wrote:Yes. One of my conlangs uses single-consonant affixes, so ččččini means "He gave him to him". That's pronounced "ch-ch-ch-chini".
They blanketed commercial spots with it in the 90s.
I'm a fan of Linear, Syllabic, and Logo-2. What's the reasoning behind the names?also, have a script or five.
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Linear is named that because everything is written on lines like Ogham.Drydic Guy wrote:baradsonoron wrote:I'm a fan of Linear, Syllabic, and Logo-2. What's the reasoning behind the names?also, have a script or five.
Syllabic is named that because every morpheme is consolidated into a glyph (like a syllabary)
Logo-2 is just the evolved form of Logographic, which is like chinese characters: a rough meaning of the word and the first letter.
I'll post another example soon.
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I don't know any language that has this either and yes, the terms 'active' and 'stative' are non standard because they aren't aligned like an active case.baradsonoron wrote:Yes I am. This is exactly what I am referring to. Additionally, it is polysynthetic, so really, it's "affixes" for those. This also means that "I was given" puts "I" in a different case than "He gave me", providing an excellently elegant way of doing the passive voice.Seven Fifty wrote:Are you referring to a system with different cases for (1) "active" intransitive arguments (Sa), (2) "stative" intransitive arguments (Sp), (3) transitive subjects (A), (4) transitive objects (P)? As far as I know this doesn't happen in any real world languages, but notionally it could happen.
(Technically calling cases (1) and (2) "active" and "stative" would be non-standard, as these cases strictly speaking should also be available with transitives, but if there was a language with such a system these labels would be as good as any other.)
That said, there is obviously no oeconomic need for this system. But have at it I suppose.
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I am more curious to know whether anyone here has not thought of it.baradsonoron wrote:But I was curious as to whether anybody else had thought of it.
Yes, I've thought of it. I can't imagine that anyone reading this thread has not thought of it.
Used it? No. But it's one of those ideas that I don't see how they could not occur to a conlanger.