Help your conlang fluency (2)

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Dunves Aquitenikas tad-esti. Dunves teutes esti.
[dunves akʷitenikas tadesti | dunves teu̯tas esti]
This is the Aquitanic language. The language of the tribe.
[bɹ̠ˤʷɪs.təɫ]
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Come now, that needs more spice. What about

[duŋweʃ akʷitenikas taɾeʃti | duŋweʃ toʊ̯tas eʃti]
陳第 wrote:蓋時有古今,地有南北;字有更革,音有轉移,亦勢所必至。
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Wat is "tad-"?
What's "tad-"?

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Inversion wrote:Come now, that needs more spice. What about

[duŋweʃ akʷitenikas taɾeʃti | duŋweʃ toʊ̯tas eʃti]
Because it's round one of sound changes, and I'm testing out the look and name. (plus I'm not sure if this will end up in Aquitaine or not)
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Thry wrote:Wat is "tad-"?
What's "tad-"?
Apparently, whatever's being translated as 'this', so maybe a demonstrative, or the like?

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Thry wrote:Wat is "tad-"?
What's "tad-"?
What Kath said. It is derived from PIE *tod.

o > a/_
*tod > tad
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Te ajo parmatz te agets gent auronts nams perts na calces italedoanyes: Arintze, Cere, Closa, Cortú, Favelça, Perunça, Poblona, Roma, Espolet, Tarcona, Veia, Velluna è Velaure.
Let be known that these are the official Hellesan names of some Central Italian cities: Arezzo, Cerveteri, Chiusi, Cortona, Orvieto, Perugia, Populonia, Roma, Spoleto, Tarquinia, Veio, Vetulonia and Volterra.

È agets eu gent na ses iseres isarghines: Laci, Marches, Toscana è Úmbrie.
And these are the names of the historic regions: Lazio, Marche, Tuscany and Umbria.

Se Danse Tanea ī Italla Doanye èu ī Favelça.
The Sacred See in Central Italy is in Orvieto.
Un llapis mai dibuixa sense una mà.

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S’heŀleu pèr maide è tameret.
Hellesan has different words for orange (fruit) and orange (colour).

S’aucete na travar perius n’ardres lamnes mà m’assolme tus.
I don’t like the idea of calquing the same natlang doublets.
Un llapis mai dibuixa sense una mà.

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KathAveara wrote:
finlay wrote:But I'm surprised at how many of you borrow your polysemy directly from English or other European languages. Tongue = language is one of these - I think worldwide you are more likely to find language is related to a word like speaking rather than tongue.
Teum nei ðan. Et "Tongue" "zuŋgr", en et "language" "málr", oxk et "speech" "malr" ír merkir.
I don't do that. For example, "tongue" is "zuŋgr", but "language" is "málr" and "speech" is "malr".
Sunpefuzate?
Congratulations?

Yaufultigu tongue-ful nanke lusepeyi, language-ful tisa lusepe. Keikene satul fanlusekei.
In Yaufulti tongue is nanke and language is tisa. This difference is normal.
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My conlang uses narān for both 'word' and 'language'.

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Naikale, pune yalusete. Kisuinai liniyugutafuzupikite.
Tbh, I'm not systematic. I just make words up randomly.

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"Language" ar "to speak" "hurga" van Hurga ker Maja endos.
In Maja, "hurga" is both "language" and "to speak".
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Adúljôžal ônal kol ví éža únah kex yaxlr gmlĥ hôga jô ônal kru ansu frú.
Ansu frú ônal savel zaš gmlĥ a vek Adúljôžal vé jaga čaþ kex.
Ônal zeh. Ônal zeh. Ônal zeh. Ônal zeh. Ônal zeh. Ônal zeh. Ônal zeh.

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finlay wrote:But I'm surprised at how many of you borrow your polysemy directly from English or other European languages. Tongue = language is one of these - I think worldwide you are more likely to find language is related to a word like speaking rather than tongue.
Sa Kaıpó, haıkırı o "voice" a "language".
In Kaıpó, haıkırı means both "voice" and "language".

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finlay wrote: But I'm surprised at how many of you borrow your polysemy directly from English or other European languages. Tongue = language is one of these - I think worldwide you are more likely to find language is related to a word like speaking rather than tongue.
Zue Azenti, fer tety 'ti' os zue 'ton'.
out azenti, DEF word speech be.MID out talk
"In Azenti, the word 'ti' ('speech, language') is from the word 'ton' ('to talk')"

"Tongue" os 'tonradh' zue Azenti
TONGUE be.MID talk-INSTR out Azenti
"'Tongue' is "tonradh" (lit. "instrument for talking') in Azenti.

(Note that "tonradh" also means mouth...instrument nouns in Azenti are very vague and mean different things, "mouth" and "tongue" are more specfically syudna and massaj)
Nūdhrēmnāva naraśva, dṛk śraṣrāsit nūdhrēmanīṣṣ iźdatīyyīm woḥīm madhēyyaṣṣi.
satisfaction-DEF.SG-LOC live.PERFECTIVE-1P.INCL but work-DEF.SG-PRIV satisfaction-DEF.PL.NOM weakeness-DEF.PL-DAT only lead-FUT-3P

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Erenj by z'out. Za blyw by yorriad. Ond an spreetj nis na tung.
[ʔəˈrɛndʒ bi zɔut zə bliu̯ bi ˈjorijəd. ɔnd ə sprɛi̯tʃ nidnə tuŋ]
Orange is the fruit. The color is <yorriad>. And a language is not a tongue.
Siöö jandeng raiglin zåbei tandiüłåd;
nää džunnfin kukuch vklaivei sivei tåd.
Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei.

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Ngumulukhu, mana khuyliwataychu kangachhika...
O, Nkumulugu, you who are not deceived in the slightest...

Umuzinay kuz'uq'unaqaya idulunay azisaynimitazaw
I will introduce you to my family when you come to my town

I-kami kwamay Adawliti Chapay
My name is Chapay King of the Sky

Chaniqa-cha i-yama chatay...
I think I may have eaten his food...

Just a few sample sentences I've spent the evening devising. The language is an unabashed thievery of Zulu and Quechua. In-world it is the standardised form of the language spoken over the northern deserts by the city-states that dwell there and this dialect comes from the city of Michka which established dominance in the latter years of the civilisation and so became a prestige dialect. This civilisation thrived in the harsh dunes of the far north through its ingenious irrigation and water-scouring technology.

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Vāntvaran hatham, Sathāthā vāntaram 'tange', hātheram 'langvajesh' cha vaphana.
Speaking of tongues, This-Speech has 'vāntu' for tongue, and 'hathā' for language/speech.

Vana (verb: taste) > Vān (verb noun prefix morpheme) + tu (part masculine suffix) > Vāntu
Hatha (verb: say/speak) > Hāth (verb noun prefix morpheme) + ā (noun feminine suffix) > Hāthā
Talāṃ leya kalakena rāmah, saktalām peha leya bhūmena ca.
See a world in a grain of sand, and a heaven in a wild flower.
Omkāṃs tava sutvantayam pharo, 'naiṃ le' jeś ca.
Hold infinity in the palm of your hand, and eternity in an hour.

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Tong enn tall? Dē zyt a sgillighyt oss zess.
Tonge and language? There is a difference between those.

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Gaga-swa tgaipang pleu daak.
some-language difference lack EMPH
Well, in some languages there is no difference.

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Di talls iss nu offsilig vrimmig.
Those languages are now officially weird.

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siñi mano emotire rooroña kise yakave· ma mei yakava:
because 1S-GEN mother-language decree-COM weird be-PRS-HSY 1S.NOM happy/pleased be-PRS-SENS
I am pleased that my mother tongue is officially weird.
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Dē miess iss dē nikkt.
Mine isn't.

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De hispaniss doed-te (lengua).
Spanish does it (lengua).

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Sa eryyo narānang Keymani iray terpeng narān kamo sanoyam (zunge), nāroy narānang Keynami takanena (Sprache ’narān’ – Zunge ‘lā’).
PT use-3SG.N language-A German high middle word.T same both-DAT (zunge), but.not language-A German modern (Sprache ‘speech’ – Zunge ‘tongue’).
The Middle High German language used the same word for both (zunge), but not the modern German language (Sprache ‘speech‘ – Zunge ‘tongue’).

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Li rotuadi sametulo, taika roiti hasdu a nadeteré rua no be, „rotua“ (eú „roto“) a „dioge“.
[li ɹotu̯aˈdʒi sameˈtulo | ˈtai̯ka ɹoi̯ˈti xaʒˈdu a nadeteˈɹe ɹu̯a no ˈbe | ɹoˈtu̯a | e̯u ɹoˈto | a dʒoˈge]

In the Zametulic languages, there are different and unrelated words for both, "language" (from "to speak") and "tongue".

Beji, la tume sie li sepaniolo idioma dui roi pi ria rua „rotua“ o lengua.
[beˈʒi | ˈla tuˈme ʃe li sepaˈɲolo iˈdi̯oma ˈdu̯i ˈɹoi̯ pi ˈɹi̯a ɹu̯a ɹoˈtu̯a o ˈleŋgu̯a]

Also, I think that in Spanish idioma is a better word for "language" than lengua.

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