Help your conlang fluency (2)

[Jipí]

Bayoya na 2003 masahatay.
spring-LOC GEN 2003 since
Since the spring of 2003.

The first Hellesan papers are lost now. I begun the conlang in 1992.

Wow! Hats off to you!

[hwhatting]

Bayoya na 2003 masahatay.
spring-LOC GEN 2003 since
Since the spring of 2003.

The first Hellesan papers are lost now. I begun the conlang in 1992.

Wow! Hats off to you!

Paula setis cailai! Dichun pormas duchuwas man pádu wiwidec uf decun wetera, uf 1975.
Child-PL.NOM be-PRES.ACT.2PL all-M.PL.NOM! make-PAST.NONACT.1SG first-F.PL.ACC language-PL.ACC PRON.1SG.GEN when see-RES.NONACT.1SG around 10 year-PL.ACC, around 1975.
You're all kids! I made my first languages when I was about 10, around 1975.

[Jipí]

[Izambri]

Bayoya na 2003 masahatay.
spring-LOC GEN 2003 since
Since the spring of 2003.

The first Hellesan papers are lost now. I begun the conlang in 1992.

Wow! Hats off to you!

Agi darn noghe. Mà ed lheraime tus triselamne as te dai artissoes, està èu s'assafull dou minceu te ai na s'heŀleu.
I was very young. I wouldn't call what I was doing then a conlang, but it's the earliest record I have of what would become Hellesan.

[Pazmivaniye]

La tuoniabiese rotuadiajo sesa la diese e 9 mi 10 jesieni. Lai kuano rotuadi save fé mai inguisio, mai no tiori nuaviko.
1S start-PV language-build when 1S COP-PV of nine or ten year-PL. 1S one-ORD language-PL COP-IPV very like English, like it be.able-IRR expect-INF.
I started conlanging when I was 9 or 10 years old. My first conlangs were a lot like English, as you might expect.

La teaniese sie no dui guariju lejeko oluso li lai iliatuadi li sino us (osu i siteto ki dui fé rína).
1S figure.out-PV REL.SUB it COP-IRR interest-PRT.IPV include-INF grammar in 1S.POS writing-PL in PROX strand (despite if PROX-PL NEG COP-IRR very strange).
I've realized that it would be interesting to include glosses in my posts in this thread (even if these ones aren't very out there).

[rr]

Dabegi makapon landezedh edn rovaledh dajor. Suvi e movide...
I barely started conlanging a few months ago. I'm a noob...

Ase jhoë empe makar landezedh, n dali the gulab landeze. Kivredi beger davo moc.
Conlanging is very fun though, and I have learned much about language. I wish I had started earlier.

[KathTheDragon]

Beignam thöre o fo yielh ugu on 'Aneška', wedsem beim yülhing inen nofelem. Bielh supuken bai dolhrekensem, pert not bielh en nomel fandöse söpdâs.
I started 3 or 4 years ago, with 'Aneška', which I'm using in a story. It's spoken by dragons, but it's not a Standard Fantasy Language.

[HausMaus]

Ish viaze sagn dass ish have ietsh saat feaa Iaaren ozaa meaa iagonlantt avaa maane konlangn iaat nisht vaat unn braa. Unn so vaat fon Iagonlangn, have ish noa feeelaatt aane klaane Hrammadish, feeelaatt etva satsbo iamatt unn dann vaaze ish mish aan bisshen langevaot. hatt eaa etva Rat fia mish midivaa Iagonlangn ?

At the moment I would say that I have been conlanging for four years or more but my Conlangs never go very far. Sofar, I've only managed a small grammar, maybe some syntax and then I get bored. Does anyone have any advice?

[clawgrip]

Kangwaukarñ teuk swa keun kangwau choo.
You should design a conworld where people use the language.

[Colonel Cathcart]

Ni slítám hintais izkerot kara tám olas 14 tágünas (12 tágün fí). Nua izkerid jót kerzha kesta már. Ikaistari ó nua márrak-kestó izker; se ó olas 2 tágünas.
[nɪ ˌʃliːtaːm ˌhɪntaʃ ˈɪskəɾot kaɾa taːm olas ˈtaŋgəɾaʃ ˌtaːɣʷʏnas - ˈhaktəɾaʃ ˌtaːɣʷʏn ˈfiː - nʊa ɪskəɾɪd ˈjoːt ˌkɛrza ˌkɛʃta ˈmaːr̥ - ˈɪkaʃtaɾɪ oː nʊa ˈmaːrrak ˌkɛʃtoː ˌɪskər̥ - ʃoː olas ˈhaktə ˌtaːɣʷʏnas]
I started conlanging when I was around 14 (12 years ago). My languages usually don't survive very long. Icastrian (this language) is my longest-surviving conlang; it's about two years old.

[Matrix]

Zu kilo riet virui daion, andras hurgai ra kalnir. Linas din virui ka endos. Varo, rak thavas ki Hurga ker Maja endosge. Koset nalwain ar yuroparet ka endos. Falu, akinath ra ka yanar.
from with eight virui hold-CONT | hard language-PL 1SG make || behind ten virui 3SG.N be || this | 1SG.POSS ORD-one the language of maja be-PAST || somewhat crooked and europe-DER-ADJ 3SG.N be || but | anyway 1SG 3SG.N love
[zu ˈkil.o ˈɹɾi.ɛt ˈviɹɾ.u.i ˈdai̯.on | ˈan.dɾas ˈhuːɹɢ.a.i ɹɾa ˈkal.niɹɾ ‖ ˈlin.as din ˈviɹɾ.u.i ka ˈɛn.dos ‖ vaːɹɾ.o | ɹɾak ˈθa.vas ki ˈhuːɹɢ.a kɛːɹɾ ˈma.d͡ʒa ˈɛn.dos.ge ‖ ˈkos.ɛt ˈnal.wai̯n aːɹɾ juːɹɾ.opˈaːɹɾ.ɛt ka ˈɛn.dos ‖ ˈfal.u | ˈak.in.aθ ɹɾa ka ˈjan.aːɹɾ]
I've been conlanging since I was 10. That was 13 years ago. My first was this one, Hurga ker Maja. It's somewhat clunky and europeanish, but I love it regardless.

[rr]

Soni ptesahev kteche âbus chicad n'toveche ghoge. Â, de'ptesa toves e mjo ghonu trasopaha.
My conlangs are boring because they lack complexity. However, this language has a more complex romanization.

Esi bieat̂azda pov̌oǰ lavoco voti. Nevaňoda t̂o ecu bieat̂azda nehosi.
This was my first conlang. I hated it because it was horrible.

Note: I made my first conlang before I knew anything about linguistics...

[Dē Graut Bʉr]

Wass bigryf ji oss "mak talls"? Ig ginnti wann ig wast zett, mar túniglyk weti ig bynē nikktitiss halfig oss hú man oss to tellē.
What do you consider "conlanging"? I started when I was six, but at the time I hardly new anything but how to count to two.

[Thry]

Δευ ση διστίγτο ιμβηντά υνα κλαυ αυ ζίφρα λη ιμβηντά υνα λήγγα ων λέξικω η γραμμάτικα λυς ήψους.
You must distinguish between doing a cipher and inventing a lang with its own lexicon and grammar.

[Jipí]

Incidentally, the video by John McWhorter that was making the rounds on the internet recently describes what a conlang is: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5mZ0R3h8m0

[Dē Graut Bʉr]

Δευ ση διστίγτο ιμβηντά υνα κλαυ αυ ζίφρα λη ιμβηντά υνα λήγγα ων λέξικω η γραμμάτικα λυς ήψους.
You must distinguish between doing a cipher and inventing a lang with its own lexicon and grammar.

Lexicon: yes, I had 5-10 words, I guess
Grammar: no

[vampireshark]

Fir mutitai mièii limbai per delle biliète, dei visti, și dei pașaporti fare. Sa resona è c̦e n'amaie șe dominie fadute delle mutitae națiune, mè mit soleu une limbar: nè sãt viratiute. È un delle resone per c̦e une rumanu di mièir ermano me frustria, car va șepte ‹difere› națiune soleu angulofone scribut. Une oportunito per un dominia zeru unica fare luo mãc.
I made many of my languages to make passports, banknotes, and visas. The reason's because I hate worlds with many countries but only a single language: they're not realistic. It's a reason why one of my brother's novels irritates me: he made seven "different" countries that were all just Anglophone. He certainly missed an opportunity to make something potentially awesome.

[rr]

Kë acun dacëmrag i felitö pa gecn nvacho? Ë i nili nivachi?
Ktâ hets b'bedgeves e flit p'khemni colnâvo? O e nâvid qura?
Who here has made a flag for his/her made-up country? Or perhaps a national anthem?

[vampireshark]

Kë acun dacëmrag i felitö pa gecn nvacho? Ë i nili nivachi?
Ktâ hets b'bedgeves e flit p'khemni colnâvo? O e nâvid qura?
Who here has made a flag for his/her made-up country? Or perhaps a national anthem?

Fir dei draipi per se Fedèrațio Telèmor și lèie rejione, și andai draipi per andae națiune. Lui vre-vua èt-suc:
I've made flags for the Telemor Federation and its regions, plus other flags for other countries. Here they are:

Draipu Fedèrațior Telèmor


Draipi rejiolai telèmoi

[Dē Graut Bʉr]

Ig heppt a flagg. Dē iss grún, witt enn rot enn dē zyt zworrt styress oss dē.
I have a flag. It's green, white and red and there are black stars on it.

[WeepingElf]

Kë acun dacëmrag i felitö pa gecn nvacho? Ë i nili nivachi?
Ktâ hets b'bedgeves e flit p'khemni colnâvo? O e nâvid qura?
Who here has made a flag for his/her made-up country? Or perhaps a national anthem?

Silethi dandar Samvarthal ilil Elbilil sundul.
See-3SG:P-2PL:A flag Commonwealth-PRT the:PL-PRT-PRT Elf-PL-PRT-PRT left-LOC.
'You see the flag of the Commonwealth of the Elves on the left [i.e., my avatar].'

[prettydragoon]

Kë acun dacëmrag i felitö pa gecn nvacho? Ë i nili nivachi?
Ktâ hets b'bedgeves e flit p'khemni colnâvo? O e nâvid qura?
Who here has made a flag for his/her made-up country? Or perhaps a national anthem?

ma rireinuha rakumu teñeko yakava:
1S.NOM Rireinu-ADE flag-ACC make-PP be-PRS-SENS
I have made a flag for Rireinu.

yo kiño rakumu nopo yata hopokayo:
Q state.NOM flag-ACC without be-INF can-PRS-Q
You can't have a state without a flag.

[Dē Graut Bʉr]

yo kiño rakumu nopo yata hopokayo:
Q state.NOM flag-ACC without be-INF can-PRS-Q
You can't have a state without a flag.

Ig denkt dē nikkt.
I don't think so.

[ivazaéun]

Vaté utén atóbbe acónwold avé azná sopéxten féf:
have.PFV country.ERG in conworld.DAT old.DAT 1s.GEN flag this
A country in an old conworld of mine had this flag:

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[KathTheDragon]

Umlaut bielh yn bidâs... Karmem dishindölheng dhi whi, dhat gulh diwais!
Umlaut's a right pain... I've changed the way it works twice!