Help Create the Telanesian Language
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Re: Help Create the Telanesian Language
smelly and talking and stupid, but existing in approximation of the speaking humanoid dot.
See it doesn't work easily xD
See it doesn't work easily xD
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You know, you aren't actually hurting me since I have a flat deal and all that
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Re: Help Create the Telanesian Language
teh
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Re: Help Create the Telanesian Language
approximation is a noun
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Damn it
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Re: Help Create the Telanesian Language
As it has been over 24 hours and I have not been thanked, I permanently revoke my offer.Ducane wrote:If you like it, here is something I made roughly ten years ago which you are welcome to use for inspiration. It's probably "futuristic" but it might be too alien depending on what you really want.Vytautas wrote:OK, I now have a lot of interesting suggestions for letters, which I will consider.
Just for now, can somebody help me come up with the letter scripts?
I don't want the letters to look at all related to Latin script. Maybe they could be similar to the Star Wars Aurebesh symbols.
However, they must be able to be written without raising a pencil/pen (for example, m would be ok, but no I).
Because this is a futuristic conlang, I will try to make it seem at least a little futuristic.
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Re: Help Create the Telanesian Language
Seriously, what's wrong with something like /a e i o u ə p b t d k g m n s h l r j w/?
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This thread is priceless. I am cracking up way too much at it.
Nort's phonology post was the Crowning Moment of Funny, though.
Nort's phonology post was the Crowning Moment of Funny, though.
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satisfaction-DEF.SG-LOC live.PERFECTIVE-1P.INCL but work-DEF.SG-PRIV satisfaction-DEF.PL.NOM weakeness-DEF.PL-DAT only lead-FUT-3P
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You should have seen it when there were hundreds of George H. W. Bushes here on the second page.Chagen wrote:This thread is priceless. I am cracking up way too much at it.
Nort's phonology post was the Crowning Moment of Funny, though.
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Re: Help Create the Telanesian Language
For your sounds,
p b t d k g
m n
f s (c for [ʃ] if you want)
w r
l y
i u
e o
a
p b t d k g
m n
f s (c for [ʃ] if you want)
w r
l y
i u
e o
a
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Caleb, he hasn't been here for weeks and I'm pretty sure he's thoroughly been mobbed off the board. So, that's nice of you, but next time read the thread.
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Actually, I have been watching it, waiting for real suggestions like he made.Hallow XIII wrote:Caleb, he hasn't been here for weeks and I'm pretty sure he's thoroughly been mobbed off the board. So, that's nice of you, but next time read the thread.
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You have? Tricky of you, not to log in while doing it. Anyway, now that you're not presumed dead anymore, I advise that you get a basic knowledge of linguistics to avoid further incidents like this. Because, and I hope you do not take this too personally, every last one of your posts up to this moment, excluding the above, has contained statements of sufficient potency to infect a large amount of board members with rabies. We don't *usually* spam people's threads with Bush family members, you know.
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Re: Help Create the Telanesian Language
If you are looking for suggestions, here's a couple:
1. Some things are readily crowdsourceable, but conlangs are not among them. Nobody who's any good at it wants to take much time and energy away from their own projects to put into yours instead, and they do require time and energy; group decisions about how a language should be are painfully slow; there is a long history of attempts at group-made conlangs, of which 100% failed to get very far; and since when is the output of committee decision-making ever artful or pleasing?
2. If you are serious about wanting the conlang, regardless of whether you accept my above point now or learn it the hard way later, you will end up having to give up on the lazy approach and actually put in the work. Whenever that time comes, you will need some basic knowledge and tools; there is a very good introduction to them here: http://www.zompist.com/kit.html
1. Some things are readily crowdsourceable, but conlangs are not among them. Nobody who's any good at it wants to take much time and energy away from their own projects to put into yours instead, and they do require time and energy; group decisions about how a language should be are painfully slow; there is a long history of attempts at group-made conlangs, of which 100% failed to get very far; and since when is the output of committee decision-making ever artful or pleasing?
2. If you are serious about wanting the conlang, regardless of whether you accept my above point now or learn it the hard way later, you will end up having to give up on the lazy approach and actually put in the work. Whenever that time comes, you will need some basic knowledge and tools; there is a very good introduction to them here: http://www.zompist.com/kit.html
Re: Help Create the Telanesian Language
So have you decided on phonology yet?
I think the serious suggestions where:
a) p t k m n ŋ w j s i a u
b) p b t d k g m n s h l r j w a e i o u ə
c) p b t d k g m n f s ʃ w r l y i u e o a
I think the serious suggestions where:
a) p t k m n ŋ w j s i a u
b) p b t d k g m n s h l r j w a e i o u ə
c) p b t d k g m n f s ʃ w r l y i u e o a
Re: Help Create the Telanesian Language
>ŋ
>h
I don't suggest using these sounds.
>h
I don't suggest using these sounds.
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Re: Help Create the Telanesian Language
Can't they be allophones?
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I like these, it allows for a simple-to-learn language like Spanish or Latin.DePaw wrote:So have you decided on phonology yet?
I think the serious suggestions where:
a) p t k m n ŋ w j s i a u
b) p b t d k g m n s h l r j w a e i o u ə
c) p b t d k g m n f s ʃ w r l y i u e o a
I think I'll go with
p, b, t, d, k, g, m, n, s, l, r (rolled), v, a, e, i (also works as j), o, u, ə, ʊ, ɪ
It fits nicely, with 20 letters in total.
I think I will stick with that.
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Now for help with symbols for the letters.
Re: Help Create the Telanesian Language
Consonants reflect their IPA valuesVytautas wrote: p, b, t, d, k, g, m, n, s, l, r (rolled), v, a, e, i (also works as j), o, u, ə, ʊ, ɪ
<p b t d k g m n s l r v>
Vowels treat lax /ʊ ɪ/ as short <u i> and tense /u i/ as long <uu ii>
/a e i~j o u ʊ ɪ ə/
<a e ii o uu u i y>
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For symbols, if somebody could suggest something that looks "futuristic" (maybe similar to Aurebesh), that would be good. The writing system will be a system similar to English or Latin, where each sound has a letter, rather than like Mandarin, where each word has a different letter/symbol.
Re: Help Create the Telanesian Language
How 'bout whipping out the ol' chisel and clay tablet and hammer away at them yourself?Vytautas wrote:For symbols, if somebody could suggest something that looks "futuristic" (maybe similar to Aurebesh), that would be good.
Or adopt Aurebesh to your inventory.
Please take the suggestions Radius Solis lay out. Read the LCK.Vytautas wrote:The writing system will be a system similar to English or Latin, where each sound has a letter, rather than like Mandarin, where each word has a different letter/symbol.
Also, read up on some general linguistic topics on wikipedia.
The former would be referred to as an alphabet, the latter a logography.
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Re: Help Create the Telanesian Language
The writing system will use an alphabet rather than a logography.Quantum wrote:The former would be referred to as an alphabet, the latter a logography.Vytautas wrote:The writing system will be a system similar to English or Latin, where each sound has a letter, rather than like Mandarin, where each word has a different letter/symbol.
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Here's an idea I developed but never used, take a 2x2 grid or a box with a horizontal and vertical line through it, same thing. Each line, the 6 of them, is binary, that is it's written or not. The pattern of the six on or off together forms one symbol representing one letter. And it looks pretty futuristic.
So you have four shapes with one line: vertical line, and three horizontal lines (top, bottom, middle). I exclude the vertical line variants as they would look the same when hand written.
Ten with two lines: L shapes in each of the corners, = (top and bottom), T shapes on each of the sides, +.
Eighteen with three lines.
Fifteen with four lines.
Six with five lines, and one with six lines.
Total of 53 symbols, so plenty of numbers and punctuation too.
So you have four shapes with one line: vertical line, and three horizontal lines (top, bottom, middle). I exclude the vertical line variants as they would look the same when hand written.
Ten with two lines: L shapes in each of the corners, = (top and bottom), T shapes on each of the sides, +.
Eighteen with three lines.
Fifteen with four lines.
Six with five lines, and one with six lines.
Total of 53 symbols, so plenty of numbers and punctuation too.
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I propose that, in order to optimize for ease of use and accessibility online, the range of characters to be utilized be restricted to those which are present in the Unicode character encoding; and in order to maintain a desirable level of distinctiveness from currently existing writing scripts, the range of characters be restricted further, to only those which are not currently utilized by writing systems which are still living, unless they are combined into a unit treated as one character by the Telanesian alphabet, but represented in Unicode by multiple.
/p b t d k g m n s l r v/
<☠ ☭ 卐 ☪ fuck ⚣ ⛆ 卍 ☭ ⟿ ድንች ☃>
/a e i~j o u ʊ ɪ ə/
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So, assuming the name of the language is /telənɪsjən/, that would be written as:
卐✡⟿\(^w^)<(Heil Hitler!)卍☃̈☭❿❾❽❼❻❺❹❸❷❶\(^w^)<(Heil Hitler!)卍
I think you will all agree that this is the best solution, combining ease of use, effectiveness, and a futuristic style. piss and shit forever
/p b t d k g m n s l r v/
<☠ ☭ 卐 ☪ fuck ⚣ ⛆ 卍 ☭ ⟿ ድንች ☃>
/a e i~j o u ʊ ɪ ə/
<ass ✡ ❿❾❽❼❻❺❹❸❷❶ Thanks for the great post. I too am interested in your research into the differences in harvested human semen from the gonads of men of differing racial backgrounds - especially due to my field observations referencing different viscosity, temperature, and density. My main question regarding your future work is what is the feasability of procuring medical grade gorilla or chimpanzee (higher primate) cum on the market? A quick check with normal mainstream supply routes leads me to question the quality of spunk available on the market (it seems to be more geared towards the amateur semenologist). Without freshly procured ape ejaculate, I think your future experiments may not have a stable scientific baseline to draw from. ☃̈ \(^w^)<(Heil Hitler!)>
So, assuming the name of the language is /telənɪsjən/, that would be written as:
卐✡⟿\(^w^)<(Heil Hitler!)卍☃̈☭❿❾❽❼❻❺❹❸❷❶\(^w^)<(Heil Hitler!)卍
I think you will all agree that this is the best solution, combining ease of use, effectiveness, and a futuristic style. piss and shit forever
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Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei.