Help your conlang fluency (2)

[Nate]

Ια ρεκίρα ερταμάτε μαι κάνδι εττουδιήρ.
Ia rekira ertamate mai kandi ettudiér.
I really need to study more kanji.

Ι ηάυα λίβρου α λειήρ.
I'hava libru a lejér.
I have books to read.

[Thry]

Ποίσσω ναι αγή, δείω δορί.
Pysso ne ayí, dio dorí.
I can't function, I have to sleep.

[Pazmivaniye]

(I'm remember kanji a lot easier when I do this, interestingly enough)

pds nh khnsy-wy wp th-m (wh) n-qn hdl-wy wp bqs-m th' (wh) 'wl phlyt-k
Peds na kansyuy wep tam (wa) neqn hedluy wep beqsem ta' (wa) 'ul palitek.
[pɛdz nɑ ˈkɑnzjuj wɛp tɑm (wɑ) nɛqn ˈhɛdluj wɛp ˈbɛqsɛm tɑʔ (wɑ) ʔul ˈpɑlitɛk]
majority of Hanzi-ERG.P REL remember-1S (1S.ABS) be-3P DIST-ERG.P REL remember-1S PST (1S.ABS) for Paleta-ian[-ABS.S]

Most of the Hanzi I remember are those I've used for Paleto.

EDIT: Rethought some clusters.

EDIT 2: Changed cases.

[finlay]

寝しょうやじろ、稼まねほし
rīshōyajiro, tvoma ne hoshi
sleep-POT-1S-NEG, work TOP what.must.be.done
I can't sleep, I have to work.

日本漢字でよすん話書くね面白す
Nihongirna deyo Sunbyaku kirku ne ihyūsu
japanese-character from sunbyaku write-GER TOP be.interesting-3S
Writing Sunbyaku with Japanese kanji is interesting

(I'm remember kanji a lot easier when I do this, interestingly enough)

Just to match how it's done in Japanese, even if the stem is tvom and the suffix is -a, it will be written as if the suffix is -ma, because you never break down syllables like that. This is the opposite to how it's done in Korean, where you would indeed write it tvom-a.

[Pazmivaniye]

nm tlk-sp h mhk-l tly 'wl sk-hlt btqh-hlt 'yt-sp kwllhtyb-w bw tt-w pyk nh dwlk-h 'hnnwmhq
Nem telksep he makl teli 'ul sekalt betqahelt 'itsep kulelatibu bu tetu pik na dulka 'annumaq.
I am currently engaged in a fierce battle to make the Annumahan languages' correlatives and similar words suck less.

[Nate]

nm tlk-sp h mhk-l tly 'wl sk-hlt btqh-hlt 'yt-sp kwllhtyb-w bw tt-w pyk nh dwlk-h 'hnnwmhq
Nem telksep he makl teli 'ul sekalt betqahelt 'itsep kulelatibu bu tetu pik na dulka 'annumaq.
I am currently engaged in a fierce battle to make the Annumahan languages' correlatives and similar words suck less.

Τας ιλά ουν ληγ τρικονσοντάλ;
Tas ilá un leg trikonsonantal?
Is that a triconsonantal language?


Ια σω χαυήνι ολήτυ δούνου, πηρ ω τας διφίκλι.
Ia so haveni olety dunu, per o tas difikli.
I've wanted to make one, but it is difficult.

[Pazmivaniye]

Talemai ki, ko kua eu jeno kinosi le sa raiditavo (sanua jano ki dui goso ria rua vonodo bu). No bie lai rotua su na jonali kuirivo.
I'm afraid not, but one of its descendants is triconsonantal (though that one isn't good enough to share yet). It's my new language without phonemic vowels.

[Chagen]

寝しょうやじろ、稼まねほし
rīshōyajiro, tvoma ne hoshi
sleep-POT-1S-NEG, work TOP what.must.be.done
I can't sleep, I have to work.

日本漢字でよすん話書くね面白す
Nihongirna deyo Sunbyaku kirku ne ihyūsu
japanese-character from sunbyaku write-GER TOP be.interesting-3S
Writing Sunbyaku with Japanese kanji is interesting

(I'm remember kanji a lot easier when I do this, interestingly enough)

Just to match how it's done in Japanese, even if the stem is tvom and the suffix is -a, it will be written as if the suffix is -ma, because you never break down syllables like that. This is the opposite to how it's done in Korean, where you would indeed write it tvom-a.

(Well...I was gonna go against the way Japanese did it. Maybe I'll do it the traditional way but those stems are rīsh- and tvom-, and since only the final vowel changes I decided to have 寝 read "rīsh-", even if Japanese never does it that way.)

Talemai ki, ko kua eu jeno kinosi le sa raiditavo (sanua jano ki dui goso ria rua vonodo bu). No bie lai rotua su na jonali kuirivo.
I'm afraid not, but one of its descendants is triconsonantal (though that one isn't good enough to share yet). It's my new language without phonemic vowels.

話くいぃこちぃねうやすろ
byaku ī kochi ne uyasuro
language GEN such TOP be-POT-3S-NEG
Such a language cannot exist.

>inb4 Nuxalk

[Nate]

寝しょうやじろ、稼まねほし
rīshōyajiro, tvoma ne hoshi
sleep-POT-1S-NEG, work TOP what.must.be.done
I can't sleep, I have to work.

日本漢字でよすん話書くね面白す
Nihongirna deyo Sunbyaku kirku ne ihyūsu
japanese-character from sunbyaku write-GER TOP be.interesting-3S
Writing Sunbyaku with Japanese kanji is interesting

(I'm remember kanji a lot easier when I do this, interestingly enough)

Just to match how it's done in Japanese, even if the stem is tvom and the suffix is -a, it will be written as if the suffix is -ma, because you never break down syllables like that. This is the opposite to how it's done in Korean, where you would indeed write it tvom-a.

(Well...I was gonna go against the way Japanese did it. Maybe I'll do it t
he traditional way but those stems are rīsh- and tvom-, and since only the final vowel changes I decided to have 寝 read "rīsh-", even if Japanese never does it that way.)

Talemai ki, ko kua eu jeno kinosi le sa raiditavo (sanua jano ki dui goso ria rua vonodo bu). No bie lai rotua su na jonali kuirivo.
I'm afraid not, but one of its descendants is triconsonantal (though that one isn't good enough to share yet). It's my new language without phonemic vowels.

話くいぃこちぃねうやすろ
byaku ī kochi ne uyasuro
language GEN such TOP be-POT-3S-NEG
Such a language cannot exist.

>inb4 Nuxalk

Νη σω σήκρυ δη σου. Πωτζ τας κη λήγε σουν εκτράνιη.
I'm not sure of that. Languages can be strange.

Νη διζήρ κ ια κρήα ρα εκτράνιου
Not that I make strange ones.

[Pazmivaniye]

No temai nieke jonali, teto jimai ki tedui li tyga kuirivo. No hile do goso kunibieme de la sie la tume sie no tiori do tajahi.
It certainly has vowels, they just don't exist at the phonemic level. It feels intuitive enough to me that it could be realistic.

[clawgrip]

寝しょうやじろ、稼まねほし
rīshōyajiro, tvoma ne hoshi
sleep-POT-1S-NEG, work TOP what.must.be.done
I can't sleep, I have to work.

日本漢字でよすん話書くね面白す
Nihongirna deyo Sunbyaku kirku ne ihyūsu
japanese-character from sunbyaku write-GER TOP be.interesting-3S
Writing Sunbyaku with Japanese kanji is interesting

(I'm remember kanji a lot easier when I do this, interestingly enough)

Just to match how it's done in Japanese, even if the stem is tvom and the suffix is -a, it will be written as if the suffix is -ma, because you never break down syllables like that. This is the opposite to how it's done in Korean, where you would indeed write it tvom-a.

(Well...I was gonna go against the way Japanese did it. Maybe I'll do it the traditional way but those stems are rīsh- and tvom-, and since only the final vowel changes I decided to have 寝 read "rīsh-", even if Japanese never does it that way.)

Larng uang kiaptgai sway keuu teuk psay ler biatmger jootaa jikchdorpsay ler Jappang keun ut achkeh huoo nteyntey psay peakteap biatmgerjik yertpiheatjik, cheung ut joot "rīsh-ōyajiro" tui chai ork geuot. Yoan ut teuk larng ork dang bia noat psay flet peen ut borm huoo swa choagduat teuk psay ler biatmger.

Gagafkeu: 寝おうやじろ = rīshōyajiro = りshおうやじろ?

Gek keun psay ler Kohliam arng-larng gmar sway fkeu mgerfchaung ler tpiheatjikchnor.

It's unusual because people who use the Japanese syllabary to write phonetically probably would not write in such a way as to acknowledge non-syllabic phonemes, but writing "rīsh-ōyajiro" does just that. If writing were done that way, then when teaching children how to write you could not write all of the language using the phonetic script.

Example: 寝おうやじろ = rīshōyajiro = りshおうやじろ?

On the other hand, Korean script can do it in two different ways because it represents syllable-final consonants.

[احمکي ارش-ھجن]

I would think making voice recording of my reciting the Lord's Prayer in Arkean would count as "fluency"

https://app.box.com/s/klb3k76raljx720maqhs

Here's the text in Polish orthography:
Noći Paźa kteńo iz Helyka, do-savikia kea imiot, kea Vajkomśar ptaća, kea viśu takadu dźno, daś Zchamu vik zos iz Helyka.
Davia savit źiar-ze noćij zeina chapot.
Pśenkja savit noći seńa, vik ja pśenka źieca kte seńa paktiv savit.
Vetńa ned savit rińu sovicja, na nićkoja savit tajku sokini.
Dla Vajkomśar, kedi i slava, avarke kira, seića i nazvake.
Aiz Takadi."

[clawgrip]

Kwauttom teuk sdoanfkeupsay ler Jappang fkeu chikchi knooayn leung chikchi ler Sombiakswa keun plargen jung chkeuk ley lian aacheung eugel chai glooay nakork tpoh yang. Lobnih hwai heat keun Jappangswa keun 漢字 tgerng chikchi ler psay ler Han (Chinese) ley 面白 tgerng chikchi ler dinminoy plaroyk mongen. Hwai dianglooayk Sombiakswa "girna" nek "ihyū-" tgerng huoo chikchi sgung. Eugel sdoanfkeupsay tpoh swaycharng nom ork yang.
Also, using Japanese kanji that have meanings different from Sunbyaku is confusing and difficult to learn, though of course doing this type of thing is fun. What I mean to say is that Japanese "漢字" means "Han (Chinese) letters" and 面白 means "the area in front (of me) is clearly visible". I imagine that Sunbyaku "girna" and "ihyū-" do not have the same meanings. Of course this is why logographic scripts are fun.

[kusuri]

私々せ持中持れ父し天心々な、
ki~ki-s-kīkī-r-doji shi havana~havana na
1~PL-GEN-lord-&-father amid heaven~PL CIRC
Our Father in heaven,

こ、し名あなっけし。
ko shi posh<ānākk>o shi
IMP| to name<with.old.honor> CIRC
hallowed be your name.

...
...
∅
...

りァ、万々ん労労。
la chabo~chabo-n-dodo
NEG too.much~PL-GEN-labor
Nope, too much work.

[Nate]

Πάτρι νώτρε κι τα ιν κήλου.
Our Father who art in heaven,

σαττυφαττυ ση νώμα τιύ.
hallowed be thy name.

Ρήγνυ τιύ αδήνιας.
Thy kingdom come.

Ορούτα τιύ ση φάττυ.
Thy will be done

σόυ α τηρ κομώτ σόυ ω κήλου.
on earth as it is in heaven.

Δων ην ιττού νουδιή πάνα κοζιδία νώτρε.
Give us this day our daily bread,

ης ην κοδών πεκάτου νώτρε,
and forgive us our trespasses,

κομώτ νώνα κοδονάμυ ι κι πήκαν κώτρε ην,
as we forgive those who trespass against us,

ης νι κοδούκ ην νι ας α ταταζώνα,
and lead us not into temptation,

πηρ ω, δελβήρ ην εκ μάλου.
but deliver us from evil.

[Astraios]

Jige sarbaza igzretebia?
Can I start a new trend?


Guse Israel...
Hear O Israel...

Gmi?
No?

Bostmi Allahast...
There is no God but Allah...

Gsilmi?
Neither?

[finlay]

Saya, tepe yekeliseneisayutu yasinselaiyete.
サヤ、我ぺえケリセ教祈やしん移えて。
まあ、僕はキリスト教の祈りを訳さないよ。
Well, I for one am not going to translate any christian prayers...

[Hallow XIII]

[Pazmivaniye]

Hoto fuomaledui!
Devil be praised!

[Chagen]

Kwauttom teuk sdoanfkeupsay ler Jappang fkeu chikchi knooayn leung chikchi ler Sombiakswa keun plargen jung chkeuk ley lian aacheung eugel chai glooay nakork tpoh yang. Lobnih hwai heat keun Jappangswa keun 漢字 tgerng chikchi ler psay ler Han (Chinese) ley 面白 tgerng chikchi ler dinminoy plaroyk mongen. Hwai dianglooayk Sombiakswa "girna" nek "ihyū-" tgerng huoo chikchi sgung. Eugel sdoanfkeupsay tpoh swaycharng nom ork yang.
Also, using Japanese kanji that have meanings different from Sunbyaku is confusing and difficult to learn, though of course doing this type of thing is fun. What I mean to say is that Japanese "漢字" means "Han (Chinese) letters" and 面白 means "the area in front (of me) is clearly visible". I imagine that Sunbyaku "girna" and "ihyū-" do not have the same meanings. Of course this is why logographic scripts are fun.

na, haī mi ihyūsu. '面白い' ne, "aza-gyūsuri' uri ma kangunji dane?
Yeah, DEM EXP be.interesting-3S. "面白い" TOP, face-whiten-GER OBJ think-PST-1S huh
Yeah, this is interesting. I thought "面白い" was "face-whitening", though?

(sorry, no kanji this time)

[finlay]

Fusuinai siyiulatunyu kafupa. Gula (shiroiful) zukule lufuilatunpei, yin (omoful) pase lufuilatunpe. Puusiu, yalgusetate.
ふ詞し二意味ゆかふぱ。白い（しろい話）清ろ増意味ぺい、面（ぐぬ話）前ろ増意味ぺ。ぷう前、やる知て。
言葉は意味が二つあるので。白いも清いっていう意味があるし、面も前っていう意味があるし。たぶん「あった」、知らない。
Because the words have two meanings. White also means clear, and face also means front. Maybe "meant", I don't know.

[Chagen]

(makes sense, our word "front" comes from the Latin word for "face", frons)

[Dewrad]

Saya, tepe yekeliseneisayutu yasinselaiyete.
サヤ、我ぺえケリセ教祈やしん移えて。
まあ、僕はキリスト教の祈りを訳さないよ。
Well, I for one am not going to translate any christian prayers...

Ma chār rophastoiu arnochalmeioiu?
What about conreligious prayers?


Sā mūo sellū, tamnūs·so mouūs, os mūo meādu·de tancondomī ā dādmos. Ā Thālos ancheris, gradāus gandā ges tou, l'estunchāmī te thoictou.

sā

be.OPT.3SG

mūo

1PL.DAT

sellon

light

-Ø

-NOM

tamn

dead

-ūs

-DAT.PL

--so

--and

mou

our

-ūs

-DAT.PL

os

and

mūo

1PL.DAT

meādu

when

--de

--REL

tanc

die

-ond

-FUT.RET

-o

-IMD

-mī

-1PL

ā

VOC

dādm

lord

-os

-NOM

ā

VOC

Thāl

DN

-os

-NOM

ancher

holy

-is

-M.NOM

,

grad

find

-ā

-PRS.OPT

-us

-1PL

ges

with

tou

2SG.DAT

l--

NEG--

es-

PASS-

tu‹n›ch

loseRET

-ā

-OPT

-mī

-1PL

te

in

thoict

darkness

ou

DAT

.
Let there be Light for us, and for our dead, and for us when we die, lord. Holy Thālos, let us find shelter with you and never lie lost in the dark.

(Prize for guessing the source.)
(The gloss tags suck balls: can't use <> or = with them.)

[Pazmivaniye]

La ga rise fisio tumadilieji mi sagauji uatomovo mi guedia mai hangun rua lai rotuadi diajedi (rosie la nime viko romau biuji hadu li iliatua). No iru okui, ko jano ki la batui.
I've always wanted to make ideographs or syllabic characters or something like Hangeul for my conlangs (because I love seeing lots of different shapes in writing). It never works out, but that hasn't stopped me.

[Thry]

Ης υ νύλος Δευς σευ Αλλά.
Is y nylos Deys sey Allá.
[is.y ˈny.los l̪evs sev a.ˈla]
There's no God but Allah.

Κάλη;
Kali?
Good?