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Theta wrote:
roninbodhisattva wrote: Wait why isn't /gg/ [ŋ:]?
because both <ngg> and <nng> are aesthetically unpleasant and also Rusanov's thing
Since the allophones are predictable why not just write <bb dd gg> for all of them? Eliminates the problem.

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There's no problem. I've already made my decision.

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Amqoli:
/pʰ tʰ tsʰ tʃʰ kʰ qʰ/
/p t ts tʃ k q~ʁ/
/b d dz dʒ g/
/s ʃ x h/
/z ʒ/
/m (n) l lʲ r rʲ/
/a e o i u/

Deghuri:
/p t ts tʃ k q/
/b d dz dʒ g ʁ/
/ɓ ɗ/
/f s ʃ x h/
/v z ʒ ɣ/
/m n ɲ ŋ/
/l r j w/
/a e o i u/

Rengni:
/p t ts k q/
/b d dz g/
/f s x h/
/v ð z ɣ/
/m n l r j w/
/a e o i u/ + length
three tones, not sure about the contours yet

Rengni is the most divergent of the Kharidze languages; most of them have similar inventories to Amqoli or Deghuri, though the realizations of the stop series vary significantly. Deghuri implosives are archaic and were lost in Amqoli; Amqoli aspirates are an innovation, though they might spread.
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Nameless so far.

Vowels
ʉ ʉ:
ɪ ɪ:
ɛ ɛ: ɔ ɔ:
ä ä:

Diphthongs
/ɒi ~ ai ~ ɔi
/ei ~ yi ~ əi/
/ɒu ~ ou/

-Some of the sounds used in the diphthongs are only ever used in the diphthongs, which is why I don't list them in the vowel chart.

Consonants
Nasal /m~b bʷ~mʷ n ŋ/
Stop /d~t g~k ʔ/
Fricative /z~s ʒ~ʃ x~ɣ/
Approximant /j/
Lateral /l ɬ/
Affricate /p̪͡f~f dz~ts dʒ~tʃ/
Co-articulate /w/

Phonotactics
A single word is constructed as:
(C(C))V(C(C))(V(C(C)(V(C(C))))
C is obviously consonant, V is obviously vowel, but V can also stand for a diphthong.
Permitted digraphs are:
nd~nt nz~ns ndʒ~ntʃ
ʒdʒ~ʃtʃ
st

I'm relatively new to linguistics and conlangery, so excuse me for mistakes in the format or using a word wrong or idunno blah.

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fl,u,f

This lang started out as an attempt to make a tri-consonantal root lang, but it kinda morphed into something different.

/m n ɲ ŋ/
/p tˁ t c cʷ k ʔ/
/b dˁ d ɟ ɟʷ g/
/ɸ ħ~χ~θˁ s ç çʷ x h/
/β ʕ~ʁ~ðˁ z ʝ ʝʷ ɣ/
/l/

/i y z̩/
/ɯ u l̩/
/e ø/
/ɤ o ɑ/
/ə/

/β ð/ cannot occur next to /u ɯ/
/ʕ~ʁ~ðˁ/ cannot occur next to /ɑ/
/z/ cannot occur next to /z̩/
/l/ cannot occur next to /l̩/
/ʝ ʝʷ/ cannot occur next to /i y/

Choice of /ħ ʕ/ vs. /χ ʁ/ vs. /θˁ ðˁ/ depends on dialect.

Onsets:
consonant
stop + fricative
stop + /l/
vl fricative + v fricative

Codas:

consonant
plosive + vl fricative
v fricative + consonant

Vowel harmony:
If the final vowel is /i y z̩/, all vowels must be /i y z̩ l̩ a/
If the final vowel is /ɯ u l̩/, all vowels must be /ɯ u z̩ l̩ a/
If the final vowel is /e ø/, all vowels must be /e ø z̩ l̩ a/
If the final vowel is /ɤ o ɑ/, all vowels must be /ɤ o z̩ l̩ a/
If the final vowel is /ə/, there is no vowel harmony.

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That phonology is actively giving me nightmares.

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Skelly Jelly wrote:That phonology is actively giving me nightmares.
I'm... sorry?

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The name of the language reminds me of my own Flafi ;)
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I thought fluffy.

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Current Conlang
/p t ʈ c k b d ɖ ɟ ɡ ʔ/
/pʰ tʰ ʈʰ cʰ kʰ bʰ dʰ ɖʰ ɟʰ ɡʰ/
/f s ʃ ʂ h/
/m n ɳ ɲ ŋ/
/ʋ l r j ɦ-ɰ/
/ʌ ɐ ɑ ɪ i ʊ u əʊ əɪ ɑʊ ɑɪ/
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abaddamn wrote:Current Conlang
/p t ʈ c k b d ɖ ɟ ɡ ʔ/
/pʰ tʰ ʈʰ cʰ kʰ bʰ dʰ ɖʰ ɟʰ ɡʰ/
/f s ʃ ʂ h/
/m n ɳ ɲ ŋ/
/ʋ l r j ɦ-ɰ/
/ʌ ɐ ɑ ɪ i ʊ u əʊ əɪ ɑʊ ɑɪ/
This looks very Indo-Aryan. Which of course doesn't mean it's bad!
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Weeping Elf wrote:This looks very Indo-Aryan. Which of course doesn't mean it's bad!
Hahaha yep it's based of the Sanskrit 'Alphabet'.

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a thing I might do, but probably won't

/p t c k kʷ ʔ ʔʷ/
/s ʃ h hʷ/
/z l j w/
/m n ɲ ŋ ŋʷ/

Nasals are realized as prenasalized stops before oral vowels.
/l/ does not appear before nasal vowels, and alternates with /n/, but it contrasts with /nd/.
Rounding contrast is neutralized around /u/.

Phonotactics: (n)(C(A|ə))CV(V)(ʔ)
(n) means a nasal that assimilates in place to the following consonant unless it's glottal. This will voice following plosives.
(C(A|ə)) means: a consonant followed either by an approximant (which then becomes syllabic) or a noncontrastive schwa. You can't have two approximants in a row. This is moraic.
V(V) means: either a long vowel or /i u/ followed by a vowel. They're analyzed as /i u/ because they're moraic, and each mora can bear a tone. (high or low)

So, permissible words, assuming syllabic /z l j w ə/ are written <z l i u 0>: ta', sita, ndzta, mbta, ngwta, mba, ma (/taʔ sjta ntz̩ta mpta nkʷta ma mã/)

/h/ devoices prenasalized consonants: nda ndka nta /na ntka ntha/ [nda ndəka nt(ʰ)a].

Vowels: *a *e *i *u *a: *e: *i: *u: > æ e i y ɑ ə iə u > a e i ø o ɨə eə ʉ
i ʉ
e ø o
a
ɨə eə
but length redeveloped from ???, long u is backer than short u and short ɨə eə are usually ə æ
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/p t ʈ k q/
/pʰ tʰ ʈʰ kʰ qʰ/
/ts tsʰ/
/f s ɕ ʂ x ħ/
/v s ʑ ʐ ʕ/
/m n ɳ ŋ/
/w j l ɭ/

/i ɨ u ɪˤ ʊˤ/
/e ə o ɜˤ ɔˤ/
/ɛ a ɔ æˤ ɑˤ/

3 tones: neutral, high, and low-creaky-voice

Vowels can be either long or short, and consonants can be geminated.

Phonotactics are (C)(C)(A|N))V(L|N)(C), where A is any approximant, L is any lateral, and N is any nasal.

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Lulani:
stops: /p b t d c ɟ k g ʔ/ <p b t d c j k g ’> Note: capital or double <’> is written <ʔ>
fricatives: /f s ɕ h/ <f s x h>
nasals: /m n ŋ/ <m n q>
liquids: /l ɹ/ <l r>
vowels: /a i u/ <a i u>

Phonemically, all syllables are open and consonant-initial. The syllable boundaries move in pronunication. Any word-internal consonant can be geminated. This causes palatalisation in <n l r ’>.

* I just re-watched Wall·E the other day, so every time I read the word "Lulani", I hear the first sound EVE makes in https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsXLzbCWV8U
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Yeah, so I've redone Future English's phonology again, so shoot me! I decided to do something different with /ɹ/ :wink:

/m m̥ n n̥ ŋ ŋ̥/ <m hm n hn ŋ hŋ>
/p pʷ t tʷ k kʷ / <b bw d dw g gw>
/pʰ pʷʰ tʰ tʷʰ kʰ kʷʰ/ <p pw t tw k kw>
/pf pfʷ ts tsʷ kx kxʷ/ <pf pfw ts tsw kh khw>
/f fʷ v s sʷ z ʃ ʃʷ ʒ x xʷ ɣ/ <f fw v s sw z š šw ž r rw ğ>
/w j l ɫʷ/ <r y l lw>

/a ɛ e i ə ɨ ʌ ɤ ɯ/
<a e é i ö ü o ó u>

Vowels can be short or long. There are 3 vowel phonation types, plain, creaky, and breathy. Creaky vowels in the orthography are marked by <q> after the vowel. Breathy voice is marked by <h> after the vowel.

Vowels are rounded when adjacent to /w/ or labialized consonants.

Unaspirated plosives are voiced when between vowels or are adjacent to a voiced fricative.

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TaylorS wrote:Yeah, so I've redone Future English's phonology again, so shoot me!
*Shoots you*

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/uʕ̝ʕ̝oʡ̥/ Uvvot

So far I only have a phoneme inventory. I wanted to make it harsh and guttural. Did I achieve it?

/Q̥ Q ʡ̥ ʡ ʔ̥ ʔ/ <p b t d k g>
/ħ ʕ̝ ʜ ʢ̝ h̝ ɦ̝/ <f v s z h x>
/ħ̞ ʕ̞ ʜ̞ ʢ̞ h̞ ɦ̞/ <fi vi si zi hi xi>
/ʡ̯̥ ʡ̯ ᴙ̥ ᴙ/ <l li r ri>

/uː oː ɔː ɒː/ <ú ó é á>
/u o ɔ ɒ/ <u o e a>

Q is the pharyngeal stop, right?
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Daedolon wrote: Q is the pharyngeal stop, right?
/q/ is an uvular stop. /Q/ is a pharyngeal "stop", so yes. According to the Wiki, that phoneme might be more epiglottal than a true stop, at least in many cases where this is posited.
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Daedolon wrote:/uʕ̝ʕ̝oʡ̥/ Uvvot

So far I only have a phoneme inventory. I wanted to make it harsh and guttural. Did I achieve it?

/Q̥ Q ʡ̥ ʡ ʔ̥ ʔ/ <p b t d k g>
/ħ ʕ̝ ʜ ʢ̝ h̝ ɦ̝/ <f v s z h x>
/ħ̞ ʕ̞ ʜ̞ ʢ̞ h̞ ɦ̞/ <fi vi si zi hi xi>
/ʡ̯̥ ʡ̯ ᴙ̥ ᴙ/ <l li r ri>

/uː oː ɔː ɒː/ <ú ó é á>
/u o ɔ ɒ/ <u o e a>

Q is the pharyngeal stop, right?
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I am playing out in my mouth how this thing would sound, and it sounds like somebody's doing their morning mouthwash.
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Matrix wrote:I am playing out in my mouth how this thing would sound, and it sounds like somebody's doing their morning mouthwash.
Perfect!

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Well, if that's what you want...

Then, uh. Good job?
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Azen:

/p b t d k g ʔ/ <p b t d k g '>
/m n/ <m n>
/s z ʃ ʒ x h/ <s z sh zh x h>
/ɾ l w j/ <r l w y>
/t͡s d͡z/ <ts dz>

/i e æ a u/ <i e a a u>
/i: e: æ: a: u:/ <i e a a u> probably

Don't ask about allophony, I have no idea yet (and truth be told I really don't understand it--I mean I get the general concept, but I don't know what would make for reasonable allophones or anything). Probably /o/ is an allophone of /u/, though.

I should probably come up with some way to distinguish /æ/ and /a/, but I actually kind of like the ambiguity.

Azen isn't my "main" language, but I've been working on it recently.
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alynnidalar wrote:Azen:

/p b t d k g ʔ/ <p b t d k g '>
/m n/ <m n>
/s z ʃ ʒ x h/ <s z sh zh x h>
/ɾ l w j/ <r l w y>
/t͡s d͡z/ <ts dz>

/i e æ a u/ <i e a a u>
/i: e: æ: a: u:/ <i e a a u> probably

Don't ask about allophony, I have no idea yet (and truth be told I really don't understand it--I mean I get the general concept, but I don't know what would make for reasonable allophones or anything). Probably /o/ is an allophone of /u/, though.

I should probably come up with some way to distinguish /æ/ and /a/, but I actually kind of like the ambiguity.

Azen isn't my "main" language, but I've been working on it recently.
This is a phoneme inventory (the collection of phonemes in your language), and not a phonology. But okay.
It is very standard, but that is a good thing; it means taht this is something you could certainly encounter in the world.
What is a bit odd is your vowel inventory; you have four vowels in the front of the vowel space and only one in the back of the vowel space (u). It would be more logical to replace a with ɑ (as how english people pronounce 'grass') or ɒ, the rounded variety thereof (like Bush pronounces 'God'). You could also add a central vowel, such as ɨ, or you could add o, in favour of one of the front vowels (such as e).

Allophony is about the realization of your phonemes, in certain environments. Your example of /u/ being sometimes realized as [o] (note the usage of brackets) is very good; if people have no back vowels other than /u/, then they will often pronounce it sloppily as something like /o/ instead. But something common is, for example, that vowels get coloured before /r/; for example, /e:r/ could become /ɪːr/. You could also have vowels become centralized when short for example, or nasalized before /n/, etc. etc. etc. Those are all examples of allophony.
Allophony can also happen in consonants, such as p->f intervocalically. Allophony can produce sounds that are already phonemes in your language, but also sounds that aren't otherwise present in your phoneme inventory (such as [f]).

Other things that are missing are phonotactics; what constitutes a valid syllable? Can you say 'tsnaxts' or only 'takinupo'?
And another thing is prosody and stress, and tone etc.

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Qaengxsw
qæŋxsɯ́

/m n ŋ/
/p t k q/
/b d/
/s χ/
/z ʐ ʁ/

/æ a e ɤ o i ɯ u/
/aɯ æi ɯi ɯa uo/
(all diphthongs are falling)

Syllable structure is maximally CCCV. There are four tones: mid, high (rising), low falling and high falling.

Almost all three-consonant clusters are permissible; generally, sequences of sibilants are disallowed, the alveolar nasal assimilates to following peripheral consonants and sibilants agree in voicing with preceding plosives, otherwise everything goes. Overlarge and forbidden clusters are broken up with an epenthetic vowel that defaults to [ɤ], but may be or [ɯ] around high vowels. In cluster environments, /ʐ/ devoices to [ʂ]. /b d/ may be realized as implosive in clusters with other plosives, especially voiceless ones; they are [β ɾ] intervocalically. /s z/ are realised as [ʃ ʒ] before /i/. Plosives are always released before non-fricative segments.

Diachronically, /ts dz/ may sometimes behave as single segments, but they do not contrast with secondary t-s d-z clusters. This does happen in other Qxoic languages, where the difference is in plosive release.

/o/ may be realized as [ɒ] around uvulars and in the diphthong /uo/ [uɒ̯].

Tones are subject to sandhi rules: before high tones (2 and 4), the mid tone is raised slightly; before the low falling tone, the high tone is lowered to a low-rising tone; before the high falling tone, it is very high level, and around the high falling tone, the low tone is leveled. Tone is usually carried only by the root and thus acts on a word level, but in some cases a word can have more than one tone-bearing element. In this case the tones simply follow the same contour rules as separate word tones.
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