Romanization challenge thread

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Vian:

/p b t d ts dz ʈ~tʂ ɖ~dʐ tɕ dʑ k g/ p b t d ts dz tt dd c q k g
/ⁿb~m ⁿd~n ⁿdʑ~ɲ/ mb~m nd~n ñq~ñ
/f s ʂ ɕ x/ f s ss x h
/w l j/ v l j
/a ɒ e ə o i u ɿ ʮ/ a au ai e o i u y w
/aɴ ɒɴ eɴ əɴ oɴ iɴ uɴ/ an aun ain en on in un
/m̩ n̩ ɲ̩ ŋ̩/ m n ñ ng
Four tones: /à ā á â/ à a á â

dâtâ wū tɕì jé kùɴ ʈàɴ ⁿdʑɿ̄. wɒ̀ kə̀ fʮ̂ tsɿ̀ jē ⁿdà. wɒ̀ tɕî wɒ̄ kə́ jē ⁿbɒ́ wɒ̄ mɒ̄ɴ. lū wɒ̄ tsɿ̀ kʮ̂ mɒ̄ɴ.
dâtâ wu cì jái kùn ttàn ñqy. wàu kè fŵ tsỳ jai ndà. wàu cî wau ké jai mbáu wau maun. lu wau tsỳ kŵ maun.

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Vian

/p b t d ts dz ʈ~tʂ ɖ~dʐ tɕ dʑ k g/ p b t(h) d(h) t(i) d(i) tr dr k(i) g(i) k(h) g(h)
/ⁿb~m ⁿd~n ⁿdʑ~ɲ/ m n(h) n(i)
/f s ʂ ɕ x/ f s(h) sr s(i) h
/w l j/ v l j
/a ɒ e ə o i u ɿ ʮ/ a o ei e ou i u y v
/aɴ ɒɴ eɴ əɴ oɴ iɴ uɴ/ an on eın en oun ın un
/m̩ n̩ ɲ̩ ŋ̩/ m n nj ng
Four tones: /à ā á â/ as a at ar

Dartar vu kis jeit kuns trans ny. Vos kes fvr tsiys jei nas. Vos kir vo ket jei mot vo mon. Lu vo tys kvr mon.
dâtâ wū tɕì jé kùɴ ʈàɴ ⁿdʑɿ̄. wɒ̀ kə̀ fʮ̂ tsɿ̀ jē ⁿdà. wɒ̀ tɕî wɒ̄ kə́ jē ⁿbɒ́ wɒ̄ mɒ̄ɴ. lū wɒ̄ tsɿ̀ kʮ̂ mɒ̄ɴ.
  • · n, t, d, k, g and s are /ⁿdʑ~ɲ/, /ts/, /dz/, /tɕ/, /dʑ/ and /ɕ/ before /i/ and /ɿ/, and /n/, /t/, /d/, /k/, /ɡ/ and /s/ are written nh, th, dh, kh, gh and sh in that position. /ⁿdʑ~ɲ/, /ts/, /dz/, /tɕ/, /dʑ/ and /ɕ/ are written ni, ti, di, ki, gi and si elsewhere.

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Nambikwara

/p t tʃ k ʔ/
/(f) s/
/(m) n j w h l~r/
/a e o i u/ + nasality and creaky voice

syllable structure: C(w)(h)(ˀ)V(t k ˀ h n)

hatˀa˩˥ ko̰ˀkhai˥˩ˀtohna˩˥hẽra˩˥. nˀha˩˥kˀai, jã˥˩tina˩˥hẽra˩˥. jˀo˩˥hˀatilia˥˩tũ˥˩ˀã˥˩, na˥˩tãuã˥˩, tˀa˩˥sḛkˀa̰lˀa˩˥ ãnũ˥˩ˀakˀi˩˥sana˩˥hẽra˩˥. Hatˀa˩˥ tĩnkakhai˥˩ˀai˩˥la˥˩wa˩˥, nˀeha˩˥kˀai, jã˥˩tina˩˥hẽra˩˥. nˀeha˩˥kˀai, tʃutˀa˩˥ jahlo˩˥nã̰ˀa˩˥ aika̰tai˩˥la˥˩wa˩˥. nˀeha˩˥kˀai, jã˥˩tina˩˥hẽra˩˥. tʃutˀa˩˥ tauka˩˥ sa˩˥tãnhˀatina˥˩hẽra˩˥, sũn˩˥tatihĩ˥˩naita˩˥sa˩˥. Katʃala˩˥ o˩˥lha˩˥ha˩˥kˀai juhlˀitʃa̰ukˀaila˥˩ isˀã tĩhẽ˥˩ra˩˥. nai˥˩na˥˩ta˥˩, jalotʃãˀ˥˩na˥˩ka̰tṵ, Robe˩˥rtʃahla˩˥ tauka˩˥ sa˩˥tãnhˀatʃaha˥˩hẽ˥˩ra˩˥.
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/p t tʃ k ʔ/ <p t c k x>, ejectives <b d j g>
/(f) s/ <f s>
/(m) n j w h l~r/ <m n y w h l>
/a e o i u/ <a e o i u>, <ą a̛>

syllable structure: C(w)(h)(ˀ)V(t k ˀ h n)

hatˀa˩˥ ko̰ˀkhai˥˩ˀtohna˩˥hẽra˩˥. nˀha˩˥kˀai, jã˥˩tina˩˥hẽra˩˥. jˀo˩˥hˀatilia˥˩tũ˥˩ˀã˥˩, na˥˩tãuã˥˩, tˀa˩˥sḛkˀa̰lˀa˩˥ ãnũ˥˩ˀakˀi˩˥sana˩˥hẽra˩˥. Hatˀa˩˥ tĩnkakhai˥˩ˀai˩˥la˥˩wa˩˥, nˀeha˩˥kˀai, jã˥˩tina˩˥hẽra˩˥. nˀeha˩˥kˀai, tʃutˀa˩˥ jahlo˩˥nã̰ˀa˩˥ aika̰tai˩˥la˥˩wa˩˥. nˀeha˩˥kˀai, jã˥˩tina˩˥hẽra˩˥. tʃutˀa˩˥ tauka˩˥ sa˩˥tãnhˀatina˥˩hẽra˩˥, sũn˩˥tatihĩ˥˩naita˩˥sa˩˥. Katʃala˩˥ o˩˥lha˩˥ha˩˥kˀai juhlˀitʃa̰ukˀaila˥˩ isˀã tĩhẽ˥˩ra˩˥. nai˥˩na˥˩ta˥˩, jalotʃãˀ˥˩na˥˩ka̰tṵ, Robe˩˥rtʃahla˩˥ tauka˩˥ sa˩˥tãnhˀatʃaha˥˩hẽ˥˩ra˩˥.

Hadá kǫ̛xkhaìxtohnáhęrá. Nxhágai, yą̀tináhęrá. Yxóhxatiliàtų̀xą̀, nàtąuą̀, dáse̛ga̛lxá ąnų̀xagísanáhęrá. Hadá tįnkakhaìxáilàwá, nxehágai, yą̀tináhęrá. Nxehágai, cudá yahlóną̛xá aika̛taílàwá. Nxehágai, yą̀tináhęrá. Cudá tauká sátąnhxatinàhęrá, sų́ntatihį̀naitásá. Kacalá ólháhágai yuhlxicaugailà isxą tįhę̀rá. Naìnàtà, yalocą̀xnàka̛tư, Robércahlá tauká sátąnhxacahàhę̀rá.
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/p t tʃ k ʔ/ <p t c k '>
/(f) s/ <(f) s>
/(m) n j w h l~r/ <(m) n y w h l~r>
/a e o i u/ + nasality and creaky voice <a e i o u> <ą ę į ų> <á é í ó ú ą́ ę́ į́ ų́>
˩˥ ˥˩ <Vh> <Vr>

/hatˀa˩˥ ko̰ˀkhai˥˩ˀtohna˩˥hẽra˩˥. nˀha˩˥kˀai, jã˥˩tina˩˥hẽra˩˥. jˀo˩˥hˀatilia˥˩tũ˥˩ˀã˥˩, na˥˩tãuã˥˩, tˀa˩˥sḛkˀa̰lˀa˩˥ ãnũ˥˩ˀakˀi˩˥sana˩˥hẽra˩˥. Hatˀa˩˥ tĩnkakhai˥˩ˀai˩˥la˥˩wa˩˥, nˀeha˩˥kˀai, jã˥˩tina˩˥hẽra˩˥. nˀeha˩˥kˀai, tʃutˀa˩˥ jahlo˩˥nã̰ˀa˩˥ aika̰tai˩˥la˥˩wa˩˥. nˀeha˩˥kˀai, jã˥˩tina˩˥hẽra˩˥. tʃutˀa˩˥ tauka˩˥ sa˩˥tãnhˀatina˥˩hẽra˩˥, sũn˩˥tatihĩ˥˩naita˩˥sa˩˥. Katʃala˩˥ o˩˥lha˩˥ha˩˥kˀai juhlˀitʃa̰ukˀaila˥˩ isˀã tĩhẽ˥˩ra˩˥. nai˥˩na˥˩ta˥˩, jalotʃãˀ˥˩na˥˩ka̰tṵ, Robe˩˥rtʃahla˩˥ tauka˩˥ sa˩˥tãnhˀatʃaha˥˩hẽ˥˩ra˩˥./

Hat'ah kó'khair'tohnahhęrah. N'hahk'ai, yąrtinahhęrah. Y'ohh'atiliartųr'ąr, nartąuąr, t'ahsék'ál'ah ąnųr'ak'ihsanahhęrah. Hat'ah tįnkakhair'aihlarwah, n'ehahk'ai, yąrtinahhęrah. N'ehahk'ai, cut'ah yahlohną́'ah aikátaihlarwah. N'ehahk'ai, yąrtinahhęrah. Cut'ah taukah sahtąnh'atinarhęrah, sųnhtatihįrnaitahsah. Kacalah ohlhahhahk'ai yuhl'icáuk'ailar is'ą tįhęrrah. Nairnartar, yalocą'rnarkátú, Robehrcahlah taukah sahtąnh'acaharhęrrah.
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birds aren't real wrote:а э ъ о е о и у
no idea how to distinguish the two mid back rounded vowels
Official Slovene orthography already does even worse:
/a ɛ ə ɔ e o i u/ ‹a e e o e o i u
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Nambikwara

/p t tʃ k ʔ/ p t c k ˀ
/(f) s/ f s
/(m) n j w h l~r/ m n y v r
/a e o i u/ a e ı o u + nasality and creaky voice ą a’

syllable structure: C(w)(h)(ˀ)V(t k ˀ h n)

Hatˀa ko’khàıˀtohnáhęrá. Nˀhákˀaı, yą̀tınáhęrá. Yˀóhˀatılıàtų̀ˀą̀, nàtąuą̀, tˀáse’kˀa’lá ąnų̀ˀakˀísanáhę́ra. Hatˀá tı̨nkakhàıˀlàwá, nˀehákˀaı, yą̀tınáhęrá.
/hatˀa˩˥ ko̰ˀkhai˥˩ˀtohna˩˥hẽra˩˥. nˀha˩˥kˀai, jã˥˩tina˩˥hẽra˩˥. jˀo˩˥hˀatilia˥˩tũ˥˩ˀã˥˩, na˥˩tãuã˥˩, tˀa˩˥sḛkˀa̰lˀa˩˥ ãnũ˥˩ˀakˀi˩˥sana˩˥hẽra˩˥. Hatˀa˩˥ tĩnkakhai˥˩ˀai˩˥la˥˩wa˩˥, nˀeha˩˥kˀai, jã˥˩tina˩˥hẽra˩˥./

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/p t tʃ k ʔ/ <p t c k q> <ejectives: b d j g>
/(f) s/ <f s>
/(m) n j w h l~r/ <m n y w h l r>
/a e o i u/ + nasality and creaky voice <a e o i u> <añ, a'>

syllable structure: C(w)(h)(ˀ)V(t k ˀ h n)

/hatˀa˩˥ ko̰ˀkhai˥˩ˀtohna˩˥hẽra˩˥. nˀha˩˥kˀai, jã˥˩tina˩˥hẽra˩˥. jˀo˩˥hˀatilia˥˩tũ˥˩ˀã˥˩, na˥˩tãuã˥˩, tˀa˩˥sḛkˀa̰lˀa˩˥ ãnũ˥˩ˀakˀi˩˥sana˩˥hẽra˩˥./

Hadá ko'qkhàiqtohnáheñrá. Nqhágai, yàñtináheñrá. Yqóhqatiliàtùñqàñ, nàtañuàñ, dáse'ga'lqá añnùñqagísanáheñrá.
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A brand new phonology:

__________
Consonants (onset)

/mw n/
[m n]

/bw d/


/pw t kj kw kʕ/
[p t c kʷ q]

/kʰj kʰw kʰʕ/
[cʰ kʷʰ qʰ]

/s/
[s]

/j w ʕ/
[j w ʕ]

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Consonants (coda)

/wm n/
[m n]

/wp t jk wk ʕk/
[p t c kʷ q]

/jkʰ wkʰ ʕkʰ/
[cʰ kʷʰ qʰ]

/j w ʕ/
[j w ʕ]

__________
Vowels

/ə/

Yep.

The vowels gets coloured by surrounding glides:

/ə əj əw əʕ/
[ə e o a]

/jə jəj jəw jəʕ/
[ie i io iɛ]

/wə wəj wəw wəʕ/
[uo ue u uɔ]

As a result the phonetic vowel inventory looks as follows:


[e ie ue o io uo]
[ə]
[iɛ uɔ]
[a]

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Sample text

/pwəkjə dəʕdəjktə kʰjə dəwk jəkjəbwəwk ʕə kwəʕkmwəjkʰ/
/dəw kʕəʕkʰʕə pwəkjə nəkjəjkʰ bwəwmʕəwmmwə kʰjətkʰwə/
/jəwkʰ kwətəʕkkʰjəʕkʰ jəwmʕə təttəjkʰ/
/səwkʕəwkʰ pwəjkʰjəkjə nətəjkʰtəwm kʰwəkʰwə kwəwəkʰjə pwəwəwkʰ/
/kjən dətjəw dəʕkʰtən kʰʕəʕkʰmwəkʰjə kwə/

[puocie dadectə cʰie dokʷ ieciebukʷ ʕə kʷuɔqmuecʰ]
[do qaqʰə puocie nəcicʰ bumʕommuo cʰietkʷʰuo]
[iokʷʰ kʷuotaqcʰiɛqʰ iomʕə təttecʰ]
[soqokʷʰ puecʰiecie nətecʰtom kʷʰuokʷʰuo kʷuocʰie puokʷʰ]
[cien dətio daqʰtən qʰaqʰmuocʰie kʷuo]
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Pole's phonology:

[m n] m n
b d
[p t c kʷ q] p t k k k (ambiguous sequences can be distinguished by adding the relevant glide letter i.e. one of y w g)
[cʰ kʷʰ qʰ] kh kh kh (ditto)
[s] s
[j w ʕ] y w g

[ə e o a] ı e o a
[ie i io iɛ] ye i yo ya
[uo ue u uɔ] wo we u wa

[puocie dadectə cʰie dokʷ ieciebukʷ ʕə kʷuɔqmuecʰ]
[do qaqʰə puocie nəcicʰ bumʕommuo cʰietkʷʰuo]
[iokʷʰ kʷuotaqcʰiɛqʰ iomʕə təttecʰ]
[soqokʷʰ puecʰiecie nətecʰtom kʷʰuokʷʰuo kʷuocʰie puokʷʰ]
[cien dətio daqʰtən qʰaqʰmuocʰie kʷuo]
pwokye dadektı khye dok yekyebuk gı kwakmwek
do kakhı pwokye nıkikh bumgommwo khyetkhwo
yokh kwotakkhiakh yomgı tıttekh
sokgokh pwekhyekye nıtektom khwokhwo kwokhye pwokh
kyen dıtyo dakhtın khakhmwokye kwo

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[m n] <m n>
<b d>
[p t c kʷ q] <p t k kw q>
[cʰ kʷʰ qʰ] <kh khw qh>
[s] <s>
[j w ʕ] <y w '>

[ə e o a] <ę e o a>
[ie i io iɛ] <íe i ío íę>
[uo ue u uɔ] <úo úe u úǫ>

[puocie dadectə cʰie dokʷ ieciebukʷ ʕə kʷuɔqmuecʰ]
[do qaqʰə puocie nəcicʰ bumʕommuo cʰietkʷʰuo]
[iokʷʰ kʷuotaqcʰiɛqʰ iomʕə təttecʰ]
[soqokʷʰ puecʰiecie nətecʰtom kʷʰuokʷʰuo kʷuocʰie puokʷʰ]
[cien dətio daqʰtən qʰaqʰmuocʰie kʷuo]

Púokíe dadektę khíe dokw íekíebukw 'ę kwúǫqmúekh.
Do qaqhę púokíe nękikh bum'ommúo khíetkhwúo.
Íokhw kwúotaqkhíęqh íom'ę tęttekh.
Soqokhw púekhíekíe nętekhtom khwúokhwúo kwúokhíe púokhw.
Kíen dętío daqhtęn qhaqhmúokhíe kwúo.
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/mw n/ - <m n>
/bw d/ - <b d>
/pw t k kʰ/ - <p t g k>
/w j ʕ/ - <v i l>
/s/ - <c>

/ə/ not written. Non glides in clusters are joined together with a dash.

pgi dldig-t ki dvg igibvg l gvlg-mik
dv gllkl pgi ngiik bmlm-m kit-kv
ivk kvtlg-kilk ivml tt-tik
cvglvk pikigi ntik-tm kvkv gvvki pvvk
kin dtiv dlk-tn kllk-mki kv.

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/mw n/ <m n>
/bw d/ <b d>
/pw t k kʰ/ <p t k kh>
/w j ʕ/ <w y '>
/s/ <s>

/ə/ <e>

/pwəkjə dəʕdəjktə kʰjə dəwk jəkjəbwəwk ʕə kwəʕkmwəjkʰ/
/dəw kʕəʕkʰʕə pwəkjə nəkjəjkʰ bwəwmʕəwmmwə kʰjətkʰwə/

Pekye de'deykte khye dewk yekyebewk 'e kwe'kmeykh
Dew k'e'kh'e pekye nekyeykh bewm'ewmme khyetkhwe.
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/ə əj əw əʕ/ <a ei ou aa> (ae = ʕə)
[ə e o a]

/jə jəj jəw jəʕ/ <e i yo ya>
[ie i io iɛ]

/wə wəj wəw wəʕ/ <o ue u ua>
[uo ue u uɔ]

ch = ky

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A Thing

m n ŋ
p b t d k ɡ ʔ
f θ s ɬ ʃ h
ʋ r ɮ j

i y~ɵ e æ ɑ o u

æj ɑj ej oj uj
iw ɑw ɵw ow
iɥ æɥ ɵɥ oɥ uɥ

eː e˥ e˧ e˩

Syllable structure is maximally something like CCCVVCC, but not all combinations are allowed. In isolation, every consonant may occur both syllable-initially and finally (although f probably does not occur finally in native words but I digress). In clusters, fricatives assimilate in voicing to adjacent plosives (f and ɬ are not distinguished from ʋ and ɮ adjacent to voiced plosives). [ɵ] is an allophone of /y/ in closed syllables, except if the final consonant is ʔ. Vowel length is distinguished only in stressed syllables, which is always the first syllable of the root -- there is hence a limit of one long vowel per word except in compounds, which may have multiple.

dɑʔ˧ ɑ˧ ʋɵɥrm˩ fe˧ɑ˥ʋɑʔ˥te˥ jæːɮ˩mæ˩ ɑ˧ tɑːθ˩ rɑʔ˩eht˥ næɥ˧ hyː˥rin˧ ʋæɮ˥dɵht˥ ɑ˧ɬɑ˧ mbruɥθ˩ ɑ˧ ʔɑːʃ˧tɑr˥ jɵːɮ˩ʋɑʔ˥te˥ drɑwr˧ ɑ˧ hæːʒ˥dɑ˧ ŋe˧ɬid˩ ksɑr˩ŋɑʔ˩ dɑʔ˧ ɑ˧ ʔnæː˩ŋɑʔ˩ tsuɥ˧rid˥ dʒɑɮ˥ʋe˧
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m n ŋ <m n ng>
p b t d k ɡ ʔ <p b t d k g q>
f θ s ɬ ʃ h <f z s x c h>
ʋ r ɮ j <v r l y>

i y~ɵ e æ ɑ o u <i ɵ e ə a o u>

æj ɑj ej oj uj <əi...>
iw ɑw ɵw ow <iu...>
iɥ æɥ ɵɥ oɥ uɥ <io...>

eː e˥ e˧ e˩
ee e ē è

dɑʔ˧ ɑ˧ ʋɵɥrm˩ fe˧ɑ˥ʋɑʔ˥te˥ jæːɮ˩mæ˩ ɑ˧ tɑːθ˩ rɑʔ˩eht˥ næɥ˧ hyː˥rin˧ ʋæɮ˥dɵht˥ ɑ˧ɬɑ˧ mbruɥθ˩ ɑ˧ ʔɑːʃ˧tɑr˥ jɵːɮ˩ʋɑʔ˥te˥ drɑwr˧ ɑ˧ hæːʒ˥dɑ˧ ŋe˧ɬid˩ ksɑr˩ŋɑʔ˩ dɑʔ˧ ɑ˧ ʔnæː˩ŋɑʔ˩ tsuɥ˧rid˥ dʒɑɮ˥ʋe˧

Dāq ā vɵ̀orm fēavaqte yə̀əlmə̀ ā tàaz ràqeht nɵ̄o hɵɵrīn vəldɵht āxā mbrùoz ā qāactar yɵ̀ɵlvaqteq drāur ā həəjdā ngēxìd ksàrngàq dāq ā qnə̀əngàq tsūorid djalvē.
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And here's my attempt at romanizing it:
/mw n/
[m n]

/bw d/


/pw t kj kw kʕ/
[p t c kʷ q]

/kʰj kʰw kʰʕ/
[cʰ kʷʰ qʰ]

/s/
[s]

/j w ʕ/
[j w ʕ]

«m n»
«b d»
«p t c k q»
«ch kh qh»
«s»
«(y w) x»

/ə əj əw əʕ/
[ə e o a]

/jə jəj jəw jəʕ/
[ie i io iɛ]

/wə wəj wəw wəʕ/
[uo ue u uɔ]

«ə e o a»
«e i io ia» ~ «ye yi yo ya»*
«o ue u ua» ~ «wo we wu wa»*

*) Syllable-initially.

/pwəkjə dəʕdəjktə kʰjə dəwk jəkjəbwəwk ʕə kwəʕkmwəjkʰ/
/dəw kʕəʕkʰʕə pwəkjə nəkjəjkʰ bwəwmʕəwmmwə kʰjətkʰwə/
/jəwkʰ kwətəʕkkʰjəʕkʰ jəwmʕə təttəjkʰ/
/səwkʕəwkʰ pwəjkʰjəkjə nətəjkʰtəwm kʰwəkʰwə kwəwəkʰjə pwəwəwkʰ/
/kjən dətjəw dəʕkʰtən kʰʕəʕkʰmwəkʰjə kwə/

[puocie dadectə cʰie dokʷ ieciebukʷ ʕə kʷuɔqmuecʰ]
[do qaqʰə puocie nəcicʰ bumʕommuo cʰietkʷʰuo]
[iokʷʰ kʷuotaqcʰiɛqʰ iomʕə təttecʰ]
[soqokʷʰ puecʰiecie nətecʰtom kʷʰuokʷʰuo kʷuocʰie puokʷʰ]
[cien dətio daqʰtən qʰaqʰmuocʰie kʷuo]

Poce dadectə che dok yecebuk xə kuaqmuech.
Do qaqhə poce nəcich bumxommo chetkho.
Yokh khotaqchiaqh yomxə təttech.
Soqokh puechece nətechtom khokho koche pokh.
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/m n ŋ/ <m n ng>
/p b t d k ɡ ʔ/ <p b t d k g '>
/f θ s ɬ ʃ h/ <f th s l c h>
/ʋ r ɮ j/ <v r z y>

/i y~ɵ e æ ɑ o u/ <i oe e ae a o u>

/æj ɑj ej oj uj/ <aei ai ei oi ui>
/iw ɑw ɵw ow/ <iu au oeu ou>
/iɥ æɥ ɵɥ oɥ uɥ/ <ia aea oea oa ua>

/eː e˥ e˧ e˩/ <ee é e è>

dɑʔ˧ ɑ˧ ʋɵɥrm˩ fe˧ɑ˥ʋɑʔ˥te˥ jæːɮ˩mæ˩ ɑ˧ tɑːθ˩ rɑʔ˩eht˥ næɥ˧ hyː˥rin˧ ʋæɮ˥dɵht˥ ɑ˧ɬɑ˧ mbruɥθ˩ ɑ˧ ʔɑːʃ˧tɑr˥ jɵːɮ˩ʋɑʔ˥te˥ drɑwr˧ ɑ˧ hæːʒ˥dɑ˧ ŋe˧ɬid˩ ksɑr˩ŋɑʔ˩ dɑʔ˧ ɑ˧ ʔnæː˩ŋɑʔ˩ tsuɥ˧rid˥ dʒɑɮ˥ʋe˧

Da' a vóearm feává'té yàeezmà a tàath rà'éht naea hóeerin váezdóeht ala mbrúath a 'aactár yòeezvá'té draur a háeezda ngelìd ksàrngà' da' a 'nàeengà' tsuaríd zázve.
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why is everyone confusing ʒ and ɮ

m n ŋ <m n ŋ>
p b t d k ɡ ʔ <p b t d k ʼ>
f θ s ɬ ʃ h <f þ s ł š h>
ʋ r ɮ j <v r l j>

i y~ɵ e æ ɑ o u <i y e ä a o u>

æj ɑj ej oj uj
iw ɑw ɵw ow
iɥ æɥ ɵɥ oɥ uɥ

<äi ai ei oi ui>
<iu au yw ow>
<iy äy ey oy uy>

eː e˥ e˧ e˩

ee é e è

Syllable structure is maximally something like CCCVVCC, but not all combinations are allowed. In isolation, every consonant may occur both syllable-initially and finally (although f probably does not occur finally in native words but I digress). In clusters, fricatives assimilate in voicing to adjacent plosives (f and ɬ are not distinguished from ʋ and ɮ adjacent to voiced plosives). [ɵ] is an allophone of /y/ in closed syllables, except if the final consonant is ʔ. Vowel length is distinguished only in stressed syllables, which is always the first syllable of the root -- there is hence a limit of one long vowel per word except in compounds, which may have multiple.

dɑʔ˧ ɑ˧ ʋɵɥrm˩ fe˧ɑ˥ʋɑʔ˥te˥ jæːɮ˩mæ˩ ɑ˧ tɑːθ˩ rɑʔ˩eht˥ næɥ˧ hyː˥rin˧ ʋæɮ˥dɵht˥ ɑ˧ɬɑ˧ mbruɥθ˩ ɑ˧ ʔɑːʃ˧tɑr˥ jɵːɮ˩ʋɑʔ˥te˥ drɑwr˧ ɑ˧ hæːʒ˥dɑ˧ ŋe˧ɬid˩ ksɑr˩ŋɑʔ˩ dɑʔ˧ ɑ˧ ʔnæː˩ŋɑʔ˩ tsuɥ˧rid˥ dʒɑɮ˥ʋe˧

daʼ a vèyrm feáváʼté jȁȁlmȁ a tààþ ràʼéht näy hýýrin va̋ldýht ała mbrùyþ a ʼaaštár jỳỳlváʼté draur a ha̋a̋šda ŋełid ksàrŋàʼ daʼ a ʼnȁȁŋàʼ tsuyríd d‌šálve

no this is also ugly
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protip: don't use thorns

m n ŋ <m n ŋ>
p b t d k ɡ ʔ <p b t d k x>
f θ s ɬ ʃ h <f th s lh sh h>
ʋ r ɮ j <v r l y>

i y~ɵ e æ ɑ o u <i ư~ơ e a̛ a o u>

æj ɑj ej oj uj <a̛i...>
iw ɑw ɵw ow <iu...>
iɥ æɥ ɵɥ oɥ uɥ <iy...>


eː e˥ e˧ e˩

ee é e è

dɑʔ˧ ɑ˧ ʋɵɥrm˩ fe˧ɑ˥ʋɑʔ˥te˥ jæːɮ˩mæ˩ ɑ˧ tɑːθ˩ rɑʔ˩eht˥ næɥ˧ hyː˥rin˧ ʋæɮ˥dɵht˥ ɑ˧ɬɑ˧ mbruɥθ˩ ɑ˧ ʔɑːʃ˧tɑr˥ jɵːɮ˩ʋɑʔ˥te˥ drɑwr˧ ɑ˧ hæːʒ˥dɑ˧ ŋe˧ɬid˩ ksɑr˩ŋɑʔ˩ dɑʔ˧ ɑ˧ ʔnæː˩ŋɑʔ˩ tsuɥ˧rid˥ dʒɑɮ˥ʋe˧

Dax a vờyrm feáváxté yà̛a̛lmà̛ a tàath ràxéht na̛y hứưrin vá̛ldơht alha mbrùyth a xaashtár yờơlváxté draur a há̛a̛zhda ngelhìd ksàrngàx dax a xnà̛a̛ngàx tsuyríd dzhálve.

If your font sucks too much to use the combining horn (mine does), ogoneks:

Dax a vǫ̀yrm feáváxté yą̀ąlmą̀ a tàath ràxéht nąy hų́ųrin vą́ldǫht alha mbrùyth a xaashtár yǫ̀ǫlváxté draur a hą́ązhda ngelhìd ksàrngàx dax a xną̀ąngàx tsuyríd dzhálve.

or cedillas:

Dax a vò̧yrm feáváxté yà̧a̧lmà̧ a tàath ràxéht na̧y hú̧u̧rin vá̧ldo̧ht alha mbrùyth a xaashtár yò̧o̧lváxté draur a há̧a̧zhda ngelhìd ksàrngàx dax a xnà̧a̧ngàx tsuyríd dzhálve.

or those weird Chinese underumlauts that were probably made for exactly this purpose:

Dax a vò̤yrm feáváxté yà̤a̤lmà̤ a tàath ràxéht na̤y hṳ́ṳrin vá̤ldo̤ht alha mbrùyth a xaashtár yò̤o̤lváxté draur a há̤a̤zhda ngelhìd ksàrngàx dax a xnà̤a̤ngàx tsuyríd dzhálve.
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birds aren't real wrote:protip: don't use thorns
Protip: use use use USE thorns.

* * *

Crosspost from AUA.
(It is an appropriate acronym.)
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/m n ŋ/
«m n ŋ»

/p b t d k ɡ ʔ/
«p b t d k g x»

/f θ s ɬ ʃ h/
«f þ s ł š h»

/ʋ r ɮ j/
«v r l j»


/i y~ɵ e æ ɑ o u/
«i y~ö e ä a o u»

/æj ɑj ej oj uj/
«äi ai ei oi ui»

/iw ɑw ɵw ow/
«iu au öu ou»

/iɥ æɥ ɵɥ oɥ uɥ/
«iy äy öy oy uy»


/e˥ e˧ e˩/
«é e è»

/eː˥ eː˧ eː˩/
«eé ee eè»

/ej˥ ej˧ ej˩/
«eí ei eì»

/eːj˥ eːj˧ eːj˩/
«eeí eei eeì»

/æ˥ æ˧ æ˩/
«ä ä ä» («ä́ ä ä̀» when disambiguation is needed)

/æː˥ æː˧ æː˩/
«äá ää äà»
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jæːɮ˩mæ˩ ɑ˧ tɑːθ˩ rɑʔ˩eht˥ næɥ˧ hyː˥rin˧ ʋæɮ˥dɵht˥ ɑ˧ɬɑ˧ mbruɥθ˩ ɑ˧ ʔɑːʃ˧tɑr˥ jɵːɮ˩ʋɑʔ˥te˥
drɑwr˧ ɑ˧ hæːʒ˥dɑ˧ ŋe˧ɬid˩ ksɑr˩ŋɑʔ˩
dɑʔ˧ ɑ˧ ʔnæː˩ŋɑʔ˩ tsuɥ˧rid˥ dʒɑɮ˥ʋe˧
Dax a vöỳrm feáváxté.
Jäàlmä a taàþ ràxéht näy hyýrin väldöht ała mbruỳþ a xaaštár jöòlváxté.
Draur a häášda ŋełìd ksàrŋàx.
Dax a xnäàŋàx tsuyríd dšálve.
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using thorn for a non-germanic language is cultural appropriation. repent, shitlord
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/m n ɲ ŋ/ <m n ņ ng>
/p b t d t͡ʃ d͡ʒ k g/ <p b t d ç c k g>
/f v s z ɬ ʃ ʒ ç xʷ ʁ h/ <f v s z ł ş j ḩ ƕ ġ h>
/ɾ l j w/ <r l y w>

/i y e ø/ <i ü e ö>
/ɯ u ɤ o/ <ı u õ o>
/a/ <a>

Tükłişü õġcanılı esi üçek heņüġşök ozõġdalınır.
/tykɬiʃy ɤʁd͡ʒanɯlɯ esi yt͡ʃek heɲyʁʃøk ozɤʁdalɯnɯɾ/



/p b t d k g/ <p b t d c/q/qu g/ug/gu>
/ts dz tʃ dʒ/ <c/ç dz c/ic/ci/iç g/ig/gi>
/f s z ʃ ʒ x~h/ <f s/us/su z s/is/si j ch>
/ʋ l (ʎ) r j/ <v l/ll l/il/li r y>
/a ɛ ə ɔ e o i u/ <a ai ë au e o i u>

Pravliçau pauvedal bom nauvai paustavai
Encrat ye bill çaisar praibrisane glavai
Aupat ye tud bill, mo maugociën tacrat
Al iscoda, auvciar yai bëil zvit bill c aupat

Daust çaisar praistal yai vraucinai in mraza
Spal malo, pa bill scoz vaiselga aubraza
Ye vaudau in ciërën crëh comay imel
Siai vaiccrat yai jaiyau in lacot tërpaill

Aupatu yai mogla bit druga paustrega
Baugato napitan na mehco sai vlega
Na tolstëm aubrazë sai lliça blëiscie
Aubseglë traibuha mu neso triye




/p b t d ts dz ʈ~tʂ ɖ~dʐ tɕ dʑ k g/ <p b t d ts dz tr dr q j k g>
/ⁿb~m ⁿd~n ⁿdʑ~ɲ/ <m/mb n/nd ñ/ñj>
/f s ʂ ɕ x/ <f s r x h>
/w l j/ <w l y>
/a ɒ e ə o i u ɿ ʮ/ <a å/aa e ë/ee o i u ÿ/iy ü/uu>
/aɴ ɒɴ eɴ əɴ oɴ iɴ uɴ/ <an ån en ën on in un>
/m̩ n̩ ɲ̩ ŋ̩/ <m n ñ ng>
/à ā á â/ <à a á â>

Dâtâ wu qì yé kùn tràn ñjÿ. Waà keè fuû tsiỳ ye ndà, Waà qî wå keé ye mbaá wå mån. Lu wå tsiỳ kuû mån.
/dâtâ wū tɕì jé kùɴ ʈàɴ ⁿdʑɿ̄. wɒ̀ kə̀ fʮ̂ tsɿ̀ jē ⁿdà. wɒ̀ tɕî wɒ̄ kə́ jē ⁿbɒ́ wɒ̄ mɒ̄ɴ. lū wɒ̄ tsɿ̀ kʮ̂ mɒ̄ɴ./
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/p ɓ t tʼ k kʼ q ʠ ʔ/ <p b t t' k k' q g '>
/ts tsʼ tʃ tʃʼ/ <c c' č č'>
/s ʃ χ/ <s š ch>
/m n/ <m n>
/l ɾ j w/ <l r j w>
/a ə̞ e ɛ i ɪ o ɔ̜ u ʊ/ <a â e ê i î o ô u û>

Konochel ri winaqi' kan kalašiben pe ri kolotachîk, ri chunan kigich, ri chunan kechqalen, chunan kičochibal pa kik'aslen.
/konoχel ɾi winaqiʔ kan kalaʃiɓen pe ɾi kolotaχɪk, ɾi χunan kiʠiχ, ɾi χunan keχqalen, χunan kitʃʼoχiɓal pa kikʼaslen/



/p t tʃ k ʔ/ <p t ç k x>
/(f) s/ <f s>
/(m) n j w h l~r/ <m n y w j l>
/a e o i u/ + nasality and creaky voice <a e o i u aq ah>

Hatxá kohxkhaìxtohnáheqrá. Nxákxai, yàqtináheqrá. Yxóhxatiliàtuqàxàq, nàtaquàql txásehkxahlxá aqnùqxakxísaníheqrá.
/hatˀa˩˥ ko̰ˀkhai˥˩ˀtohna˩˥hẽra˩˥. nˀha˩˥kˀai, jã˥˩tina˩˥hẽra˩˥. jˀo˩˥hˀatilia˥˩tũ˥˩ˀã˥˩, na˥˩tãuã˥˩, tˀa˩˥sḛkˀa̰lˀa˩˥ ãnũ˥˩ˀakˀi˩˥sana˩˥hẽra˩˥.
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/m n ŋ/ <m n ng>
/p b t d k ɡ ʔ/ <p b t d k g c>
/f θ s ɬ ʃ h/ <f th s ll ch h>
/ʋ r ɮ j/ <w r l j>

/i y~ɵ e æ ɑ o u/ <i u e ai a o ou>

/æj ɑj ej oj uj/ <aei aoi eai oei oui>
/iw ɑw ɵw ow/ <iou aou eou aou>
/iɥ æɥ ɵɥ oɥ uɥ/ <ieu aeu oeu oau oue>

/eː e˥ e˧ e˩/ <ē é e è>

Dac a woeùrm fe-áwácté jaǐlmaì a tǎth ràcéht naeu hûrin waíldúht alla mbrouèth a cāchtár jǔlwácté draour a haîchda ngellìd ksàrngàc dac a cnaǐngàc tsoueríd dchálwe.
/dɑʔ˧ ɑ˧ ʋɵɥrm˩ fe˧ɑ˥ʋɑʔ˥te˥ jæːɮ˩mæ˩ ɑ˧ tɑːθ˩ rɑʔ˩eht˥ næɥ˧ hyː˥rin˧ ʋæɮ˥dɵht˥ ɑ˧ɬɑ˧ mbruɥθ˩ ɑ˧ ʔɑːʃ˧tɑr˥ jɵːɮ˩ʋɑʔ˥te˥ drɑwr˧ ɑ˧ hæːʒ˥dɑ˧ ŋe˧ɬid˩ ksɑr˩ŋɑʔ˩ dɑʔ˧ ɑ˧ ʔnæː˩ŋɑʔ˩ tsuɥ˧rid˥ dʒɑɮ˥ʋe˧/
Knowledge is power, and power corrupts. So study hard and be evil!

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