Romanization challenge thread

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Nort, Nannalu, don't be dicks. Birdlang, check your social skills are in place: re-reading this might be helpful.
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/tˤær/ Ṫær

/m mʲ n ɲ/ m m̆ n n̆
/p pʲ t k kʲ q ʡ ʔ/ p p̆ t k k̆ q ÿ '
/pˤ tˤ/ ṗ ṫ
/b bʲ d/ b b̆ d
/bˤ dˤ/ ḃ ḋ
/ɓ ɗ/ b̈ d̈
/t͡s t͡ɕ d͡z d͡ʑ/ c c̈ x ẍ
/f fʲ s z ɕ ʑ x χ ʜ h/ f f̆ s z s̈ z̈ ß z̧ ƿ h
/ʋ r rʲ j ʢ/ v r r̆ j ð

/ɪ ʊ ɛ ɔ ɑ/ ï ü ë ö a
/i u e o æ/ i u e o æ
/ɛ̃ ɔ̃ ã/ e̊ o̊ å

/d͡ʑmɑkɑ tˤær o pʲãzbɔr tsɪʜ iut͡sʔʋiʑæm ʡɛrfʲɑ | ɲɔ̃t͡ɕtɪʋɑ ɓoxuχ ɪd hɛt ʔsʊd͡ʑʋa/ Ẍmaka Ṫær O P̆åzbör Cïƿ Iuc'viz̈æm Ÿërf̆a. N̆O̊C̈TÏVA ḃoßuz̧ ïd hët 'Süẍvå.
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Dewrad wrote:Nort, Nannalu, don't be dicks. Birdlang, check your social skills are in place: re-reading this might be helpful.
Thank you! I like that you stepped in as a moderator and stopped the situation.
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/tˤær/

/m mʲ n ɲ/ <m my n ny>
/p pʲ t k kʲ q ʡ ʔ/ <p py t k ky q ʔʼ ʔ>
/pˤ tˤ/ <p̓ t̓>
/b bʲ d/ <b by d>
/bˤ dˤ/ <b̓ d̓>
/ɓ ɗ/ <ḅ ḍ>
/t͡s t͡ɕ d͡z d͡ʑ/ <ts tsy dz dzy>
/f fʲ s z ɕ ʑ x χ ʜ h/ <f fy s z sy zy x xh c h>
/ʋ r rʲ j ʢ/ <v r ry y ʔʼ̣>

/ɪ ʊ ɛ ɔ ɑ/ <í ú é ó á>
/i u e o æ/ <i u e o a>
/ɛ̃ ɔ̃ ã/ <ę ǫ ą>

/d͡ʑmɑkɑ tˤær o pʲãzbɔr tsɪʜ iut͡sʔʋiʑæm ʡɛrfʲɑ | ɲɔ̃t͡ɕtɪʋɑ ɓoxuχ ɪd hɛt ʔsʊd͡ʑʋa/
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Re: Romanization challenge thread

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Birdlang wrote:
Dewrad wrote:Nort, Nannalu, don't be dicks. Birdlang, check your social skills are in place: re-reading this might be helpful.
Thank you! I like that you stepped in as a moderator and stopped the situation.
Don't over-egg the pudding. Ensure that you are also behaving in a way that doesn't give rise to the situation again.
Some useful Dravian links: Grammar - Lexicon - Ask a Dravian
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Hallow XIII wrote:That already happened here. You will, I think, find that if you behave uncivilly on the Internet people will tend to return the favor, so. Being new doesn't really excuse from the standard of not being petulant and annoying.

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Ṭar /tˤær/

/m mʲ n ɲ/ <m ḿ n ń>
/p pʲ t k kʲ q ʡ ʔ/ <p ṕ t c ć k g q>
/pˤ tˤ/ <ṗ ṭ>
/b bʲ d/ <b b́ d>
/bˤ dˤ/ <ḅ ḍ>
/ɓ ɗ/ <ɓ ɗ>
/t͡s t͡ɕ d͡z d͡ʑ/ <ĉ ĝ č ǧ>
/f fʲ s z ɕ ʑ x χ ʜ h/ <f f́ s z ś ź x ħ ḥ h>
/ʋ r rʲ j ʢ/ <w r ŕ j ƿ>

/ɪ ʊ ɛ ɔ ɑ/ <i u e o a>
/i u e o æ/ <ī ū ē ō ā>
/ɛ̃ ɔ̃ ã/ <ẽ õ ã>

/d͡ʑmɑkɑ tˤær o pʲãzbɔr tsɪʜ iut͡sʔʋiʑæm ʡɛrfʲɑ | ɲɔ̃t͡ɕtɪʋɑ ɓoxuχ ɪd hɛt ʔsʊd͡ʑʋa/

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Birdlang wrote:
Hallow XIII wrote:That already happened here. You will, I think, find that if you behave uncivilly on the Internet people will tend to return the favor, so. Being new doesn't really excuse from the standard of not being petulant and annoying.

Also what is anti-trolling software
Anti trolling software in my conworld warns Internet trolls and can permanently render a computer useless.
Antibirdlanging software in my conworld prevents people from being Birdlang and also makes everyone young, rich and beautiful.
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Pole, the wrote:
Birdlang wrote:
Hallow XIII wrote:That already happened here. You will, I think, find that if you behave uncivilly on the Internet people will tend to return the favor, so. Being new doesn't really excuse from the standard of not being petulant and annoying.

Also what is anti-trolling software
Anti trolling software in my conworld warns Internet trolls and can permanently render a computer useless.
Antibirdlanging software in my conworld prevents people from being Birdlang and also makes everyone young, rich and beautiful.
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Birdlang wrote:Is this a human language?
I haven't really thought about the conworld part of this lang, but if I put it on my conworld then it would be spoken by my conspecies.

Edit: Also, thanks for the romanization ideas everyone.

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WIP lang:

/m n ŋ/ <m n ng>
/t c k ʔ/ <t c k '>
/d ɟ~g/ <d g>
/f θ ç x/ <f hð hj h>
/v ð ʝ~ɣ/ <v ð j>
[p b] <p b>
/s z/ <s z>
/l~r ɫ/ <l/r ll>

/i iː e eː ɛ ɛː a aː/ <i ii ë ëë e ee ä ää>
/u uː o oː ɑ ɑː/ <u uu o oo a aa>

Anuvän näkelem ahi lsämeng nalðim ndalloo tä'ovem jëhðäim.
/ɑnuvan nakɛlɛm ɑxi lsamɛŋ nalðim ndaɫoː taʔovɛm ɣeθaim/


Trál:

/m mʲ n ɲ/ <m m̧ n ņ>
/p pʲ t k kʲ q ʡ ʔ/ <p p̧ t k ķ ĸ q ˀ>
/pˤ tˤ/ <pr tr>
/b bʲ d/ <b b̧ d>
/bˤ dˤ/ <br dr>
/ɓ ɗ/ <ˀb ˀd>
/t͡s t͡ɕ d͡z d͡ʑ/ <c ç x x̧>
/f fʲ s z ɕ ʑ x χ ʜ h/ <f f̧ s z ş z̧ kh ĸh qh h>
/ʋ r rʲ j ʢ/ <v l ļ j r̂>

/ɪ ʊ ɛ ɔ ɑ/ <i u e o a>
/i u e o æ/ <í ú é ó á>
/ɛ̃ ɔ̃ ã/ <ę ǫ ą>

X̧maka trál ó p̧ązbor ciqh íúcˀvíz̧ám qelf̧a. Ņǫçtiva ˀbókhúĸh id het ˀsux̧va.
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Nannalu wrote:Don't add flame to the fire!
It's winter and I am cold.

* * *
Aili Meilani wrote:Some WIP lang:
palatals are commonly realized as alveolopalatals
nonsibilants have corresponding stops as allophones in N_
/m n ŋ/
/t c k ʔ/
/d ɟ~g/
/f θ ç x/
/v ð ʝ~ɣ/
[p b]
/s z/
/l~r ɫ/

‹m n ñ›
‹t c k x›
‹d g›
‹f th sh ch›
‹v dh y›
‹p b›
‹s z›
‹l~r lh›
/i u/ double as semivowels

(N/L)(C)- -(W)V(W)-/-Vː- -(C)
/i iː e eː ɛ ɛː a aː/
/u uː o oː ɑ ɑː/
‹i ī ie iē e ē a ā›
‹u ū uo uō o ō›

/ie uo/
‹ïe üo›

/ɑnuvan nakɛlɛm ɑxi lsamɛŋ nalðim ndaɫoː taʔovɛm ɣeθaim/
‹Onuvan nakelem ochi lsameñ naldhim ndalhō taxuovem yiethaim.›
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/tˤær/ Táâr

/m mʲ n ɲ/ m mí n ní
/p pʲ t k kʲ q ʡ ʔ/ p pí t c cí k q g
/pˤ tˤ/ pá tá
/b bʲ d/ b bí d
/bˤ dˤ/ bá dá
/ɓ ɗ/ ƀ đ
/t͡s t͡ɕ d͡z d͡ʑ/ tz tž ʒ ǯ
/f fʲ s z ɕ ʑ x χ ʜ h/ f fí s z š ž ċ ḳ qh h
/ʋ r rʲ j ʢ/ v r rí í á

/ɪ ʊ ɛ ɔ ɑ/ ǐ~i ǔ~u ě~e ǒ~o ǎ~a
/i u e o æ/ î~i û~u ê~e ô~o â~a
/ɛ̃ ɔ̃ ã/ eń oń ań

/d͡ʑmɑkɑ tˤær o pʲãzbɔr tsɪʜ iut͡sʔʋiʑæm ʡɛrfʲɑ | ɲɔ̃t͡ɕtɪʋɑ ɓoxuχ ɪd hɛt ʔsʊd͡ʑʋa/
Ǯmǎca táâr ô píańzbǒr tzǐqh îutzgvižam qěrfía, níońtžtǐva ƀôċuḳ ǐd hět gsǔǯva.

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/m mʲ n ɲ/ <m my n ny>
/p pʲ t k kʲ q ʡ ʔ/ <p py t k ky q c1 c>
/pˤ tˤ/ <p1 t1>
/b bʲ d/ <b by d>
/bˤ dˤ/ <b1 d1>
/ɓ ɗ/ <bh dh>
/t͡s t͡ɕ d͡z d͡ʑ/ <ts ch dz j>
/f fʲ s z ɕ ʑ x χ ʜ h/ <f fy s z sy zy kh x xh h>
/ʋ r rʲ j ʢ/ <v r ry y 1>

/ɪ ʊ ɛ ɔ ɑ/ <ì ù è ò à>
/i u e o æ/ <i u e o a>
/ɛ̃ ɔ̃ ã/ <en on an>

/d͡ʑmɑkɑ tˤær o pʲãzbɔr tsɪʜ iut͡sʔʋiʑæm ʡɛrfʲɑ | ɲɔ̃t͡ɕtɪʋɑ ɓoxuχ ɪd hɛt ʔsʊd͡ʑʋa/
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/m mʲ n ɲ/ <m mj n nj>
/p pʲ t k kʲ q ʡ ʔ/ <p pj t k kj q x‘ x>
/pˤ tˤ/ <p‘ t‘>
/b bʲ d/ <b bj d>
/bˤ dˤ/ <b‘ d‘>
/ɓ ɗ/ <bb dd>
/t͡s t͡ɕ d͡z d͡ʑ/ <c ć ż ž>
/f fʲ s z ɕ ʑ x χ ʜ h/ <f fj s z ś ź kh qh h‘ h>
/ʋ r rʲ j ʢ/ <w r rj j ‘>

/ɪ ʊ ɛ ɔ ɑ/ <i u e o a> + double letter if in an open syllable
/i u e o æ/ <ii uu ee oo aa> or <i u e o a> + single letter in an open syllable
/ɛ̃ ɔ̃ ã/ <en on an>

/d͡ʑmɑkɑ tˤær o pʲãzbɔr tsɪʜ iut͡sʔʋiʑæm ʡɛrfʲɑ | ɲɔ̃t͡ɕtɪʋɑ ɓoxuχ ɪd hɛt ʔsʊd͡ʑʋa/
Žmakka t‘aar o pjanzbor cih‘ iuucxwiźaam x‘erfja. Njonćtiwwa bokhuuqh id het xsužwa.

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Birdlang wrote:sːʌp̚ saːŋ̊ dõː S̄öp sāñ̂ dō̃

Initials:

p t̪ t k p t̀ t k
pʰ t̪ʰ tʰ kʰ ph t̀h th kh
pʼ t̪ʼ tʼ kʼ pp t̀t̀ tt kk
b d̪ d ɡ b d̀ d g
bʱ d̪ʱ dʱ ɡʱ bh d̀h dh gh
ɓ ɗ̪ ɗ ɠ bb d̀d̀ dd gg
s z r l v h s z r l v h

cː C̄
cˤ Cẓ

Medials:

a e ɤ o ɛ ʌ ɔ i ɯ u a e ë o è ö ò i ü u
vː V̄
ṽ v̤ v̰ Vƴ Vỹ Vȳ

wv jv ɰv w y ƿ

Finals:

p̚ t̪̚ t̚ k̚ same as initial
p t̪ t k same as initial
m̥ n̪̊ n̥ ŋ̊ m̂ ń̂ n̂ ñ̂
m n̪ n ŋ m ń n ñ

Syllables are CGV(C) where G is one of the glides listed above.

Example Text:

d̪ʱɔː sˤʌ̰k̚ sːʌːŋ tʼã̤ː ɡʱḛː ɡˤːɤŋ̊ ɓɛn̪̊ vɛ̃ːt̪̚ tɰɔ̤k D̀hò̄ sẓöȳk s̄ȫñ ttāƴỹ ghēȳ bbèń̂ vēƴt̀ tƿòkỹ
kʼẽn tʰɯ̤ː tʰːwɔŋ sˤjɛm̥ lːap̚ la̤ːŋ kkenƴ thǖỹ t̄h̄wòñ sẓyèm̂ l̄ap lāñỹ
kʰɔ̃ː vak̚ ɡʱḛː sːaː sˤe̤p̚ la̤ːŋ khò̄ƴ vak ghēȳ S̄ā SẒepỹ Lāñỹ
ɗ̪wʌːn̊ dʌ̰ː bʱuːm bʱṳ sˤʌ̰k̚ sːap̚ t̪ʼɛŋ̊ ra̰n̥ tɰɔ̤k D̀D̀wȫn̂ dȫȳ bhūm bhuȳ sẓökȳ s̄ap T̀T̀èñ̂ Ran̂ȳ TǷòkỹ
Is this based of those Vietnamese minority languages???
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Nortaneous wrote:Here's what I'm using:

/b t d k ʔ/ <b t d k -t>
/f s h/ <f s h>
/m n ŋ/ <m n g>

/a e ɤ~ʊ o i u ɿ~ʮ~ɯ/ <a e v o i u y>

Tones:
˧ ˩ ˧˨ ˥˦ ˧˦ <2 3 4 5 6>

/kɿʔ˥˦da˧ e˥˦ u˩ sɿʔ˧ m˧ maʔ˧˨ tɤ˥˦/
Kyt5da2 e4 u3 syt2 m2 mat4 tv5.

Although I could use tone letters:
Kytƽdaƨ eч uз sytƨ mƨ matч tvƽ.
Or:
Kytqdaz ex uj sytz mz matx tvq.
Or superscripts:
Kyt⁵da² e⁴ u³ syt² m² mat⁴ tv⁵.

Or write the fricative vowel phonetically as <z>/<v>:
Kvt5da2 e4 u3 szt2 m2 mat4 toe5.
Is this based of those Chinese minority languages???
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Nortaneous wrote:
Nortaneous wrote:Here's what I'm using:

/b t d k ʔ/ <b t d k -t>
/f s h/ <f s h>
/m n ŋ/ <m n g>

/a e ɤ~ʊ o i u ɿ~ʮ~ɯ/ <a e v o i u y>

Tones:
˧ ˩ ˧˨ ˥˦ ˧˦ <2 3 4 5 6>

/kɿʔ˥˦da˧ e˥˦ u˩ sɿʔ˧ m˧ maʔ˧˨ tɤ˥˦/
Kyt5da2 e4 u3 syt2 m2 mat4 tv5.

Although I could use tone letters:
Kytƽdaƨ eч uз sytƨ mƨ matч tvƽ.
Or:
Kytqdaz ex uj sytz mz matx tvq.
Or superscripts:
Kyt⁵da² e⁴ u³ syt² m² mat⁴ tv⁵.

Or write the fricative vowel phonetically as <z>/<v>:
Kvt5da2 e4 u3 szt2 m2 mat4 toe5.
Is this based of those Chinese minority languages???
Were you trying to make my quote suck? This looks more like Iau.
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I'm looking for keyboard-friendly (i.e. no diacritics) alternative romanization.
/a ɛ e̞ i ɔ o̞ ə u/
/ae̯ ao̯/
/m m̥ n n̥ ɴ/
/p ʰp pʶ b t ʰt tʶ d k ʰk g q ʰq ʔ/
/t͡s c͡ç ɟ͡ʝ/
/ɸ β s z ç ʝ x ɣ X h/
/ɹ~ɾ ɹ̥ j w/
/rʷ* ʀ/
/l l̥ lʶ ʎ̝̊/
/ m̩ n̩ ɹ̩ r̩ʷ*/
*The /r/ is phonemically realized as normal, but phonetically speaking, it is rounded.
The voiceless nasals and approximants correspond to the pre-aspirated plosives.

Two examples:
[ɹ̩nuʔaʝnad ʔic͡çam jɛç çaɹad ɹ̩maptaXun ʔae̯jiki ɟ͡ʝipʔɛlam ɹ̩xao̯ʝiʝ n̩ku Xɔl Xulal]
[ʔaçɔl xaβad pulqam ʔiɸbiʝɛn laβ ʔiɸçimɛʎ̝̊ liθ m̩suɣtad laβ liθ n̥ubad || pʶal sanaʝaʔin laβ saXadn̩ ʔalparʷlam laβ pʶal çaɹmaxɛç liθ ʰtaɹaʔ wae̯jadanun ɟ͡ʝiʝqanam]
ʾAšol ḵavad pulqam ʾifbižen lav ʾifšimeḻ lit maseḡrad lav lit n͛ubad. ʾUpulasim ṗal sa-panžun lav sa-ḥadṇ lav ṗal šarmaḵeš lit ʾaẏṭ waẏyadanun wižqanam.
- Article 1 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights.

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/a ɛ e̞ i ɔ o̞ ə u/ <a e eh i o oh u uh>
/ae̯ ao̯/ <ae ao>
/m m̥ n n̥ ɴ/ <m hm n hn nq>
/p ʰp pʶ b t ʰt tʶ d k ʰk g q ʰq ʔ/ <p hp pr b t ht tr d k hk g q hq x>
/t͡s c͡ç ɟ͡ʝ/ <ts ch j>
/ɸ β s z ç ʝ x ɣ X h/ <f v s z sh zh kh gh qh h>
/ɹ~ɾ ɹ̥ j w/ <r hr y w>
/rʷ* ʀ/ <rr rq>
/l l̥ lʶ ʎ̝̊/ <l hl lr shl>
/ m̩ n̩ ɹ̩ r̩ʷ*/ <mw nw rw rrw>
*The /r/ is phonemically realized as normal, but phonetically speaking, it is rounded.
The voiceless nasals and approximants correspond to the pre-aspirated plosives.

Two examples:
[ɹ̩nuʔaʝnad ʔic͡çam jɛç çaɹad ɹ̩maptaXun ʔae̯jiki ɟ͡ʝipʔɛlam ɹ̩xao̯ʝiʝ n̩ku Xɔl Xulal]
<Rwnuxazhnad xicham yesh sharad rwmaptaqhun xaeyiki jipxelam rwkhaohzhizh nwku qhol qhuhlal.>

[ʔaçɔl xaβad pulqam ʔiɸbiʝɛn laβ ʔiɸçimɛʎ̝̊ liθ m̩suɣtad laβ liθ n̥ubad || pʶal sanaʝaʔin laβ saXadn̩ ʔalparʷlam laβ pʶal çaɹmaxɛç liθ ʰtaɹaʔ wae̯jadanun ɟ͡ʝiʝqanam]
<Xashol khavad puhlqam xivbizhen lav xifshimeshl lis mwsuhghtad lav lis hnuhbad. Pral sanazhxin lav saqhadnw xalparrlam lav pral sharmakhesh lis htarax waeyadanuhn jizhiqanam.>
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Adúljôžal ônal kol ví éža únah kex yaxlr gmlĥ hôga jô ônal kru ansu frú.
Ansu frú ônal savel zaš gmlĥ a vek Adúljôžal vé jaga čaþ kex.
Ônal zeh. Ônal zeh. Ônal zeh. Ônal zeh. Ônal zeh. Ônal zeh. Ônal zeh.

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Based off old Upsaclottian spelling (Upsaclottian is a spider language)
I'm looking for keyboard-friendly (i.e. no diacritics) alternative romanization.
/a ɛ e̞ i ɔ o̞ ə u/ a e ezh i o ozh eu u
/ae̯ ao̯/ euw aeu
/m m̥ n n̥ ɴ/ m hmm n hnn ngng
/p ʰp pʶ b t ʰt tʶ d k ʰk g q ʰq ʔ/ p hhp pqxw b t hht tqxw d k hhk g ch hhch j
/t͡s c͡ç ɟ͡ʝ/ c cyh jyh
/ɸ β s z ç ʝ x ɣ X h/ f w s z syh q x gg xh h
/ɹ~ɾ ɹ̥ j w/ r hhr jy v
/rʷ* ʀ/ rr jqxw
/l l̥ lʶ ʎ̝̊/ l hhl lqxw jay
/ m̩ n̩ ɹ̩ r̩ʷ*/ um un ur urr

Two examples:
[ɹ̩nuʔaʝnad ʔic͡çam jɛç çaɹad ɹ̩maptaXun ʔae̯jiki ɟ͡ʝipʔɛlam ɹ̩xao̯ʝiʝ n̩ku Xɔl Xulal] urnujaqnad jicyham jyesyh syharad urmaptaxhuun jeuwjyiki jyhipjelam urhaeuqiq unku xhol xhulal
[ʔaçɔl xaβad pulqam ʔiɸbiʝɛn laβ ʔiɸçimɛʎ̝̊ liθ m̩suɣtad laβ liθ n̥ubad || pʶal sanaʝaʔin laβ saXadn̩ ʔalparʷlam laβ pʶal çaɹmaxɛç liθ ʰtaɹaʔ wae̯jadanun ɟ͡ʝiʝqanam] Jasyhol xawad pulcham jifbiqen law jifsyhimejay lit umsuggtad law lit hnnubad. Pqxwal sanaqajin law saxhadun jalparrlam law pqxwal syharmaxesyh lit hhtaraj weuwjyadanuun jyhiqchanam.
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Birdlang wrote:Two examples: I am not doing these. Too hard.
[ɹ̩nuʔaʝnad ʔic͡çam jɛç çaɹad ɹ̩maptaXun ʔae̯jiki ɟ͡ʝipʔɛlam ɹ̩xao̯ʝiʝ n̩ku Xɔl Xulal]
[ʔaçɔl xaβad pulqam ʔiɸbiʝɛn laβ ʔiɸçimɛʎ̝̊ liθ m̩suɣtad laβ liθ n̥ubad || pʶal sanaʝaʔin laβ saXadn̩ ʔalparʷlam laβ pʶal çaɹmaxɛç liθ ʰtaɹaʔ wae̯jadanun ɟ͡ʝiʝqanam]
You can't just look at the values you assigned to the phonemes and arrange them in the proper order? How lazy are you?
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Adúljôžal ônal kol ví éža únah kex yaxlr gmlĥ hôga jô ônal kru ansu frú.
Ansu frú ônal savel zaš gmlĥ a vek Adúljôžal vé jaga čaþ kex.
Ônal zeh. Ônal zeh. Ônal zeh. Ônal zeh. Ônal zeh. Ônal zeh. Ônal zeh.

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Birdlang wrote:Based off old Upsaclottian spelling (Upsaclottian is a spider language)
I'm looking for keyboard-friendly (i.e. no diacritics) alternative romanization.
/a ɛ e̞ i ɔ o̞ ə u/ a e ezh i o ozh eu u
/ae̯ ao̯/ euw aeu
/m m̥ n n̥ ɴ/ m hmm n hnn ngng
/p ʰp pʶ b t ʰt tʶ d k ʰk g q ʰq ʔ/ p hhp pqxw b t hht tqxw d k hhk g ch hhch j
/t͡s c͡ç ɟ͡ʝ/ c cyh jyh
/ɸ β s z ç ʝ x ɣ X h/ f w s z syh q x gg xh h
/ɹ~ɾ ɹ̥ j w/ r hhr jy v
/rʷ* ʀ/ rr jqxw
/l l̥ lʶ ʎ̝̊/ l hhl lqxw jay
/ m̩ n̩ ɹ̩ r̩ʷ*/ um un ur urr

Two examples:
[ɹ̩nuʔaʝnad ʔic͡çam jɛç çaɹad ɹ̩maptaXun ʔae̯jiki ɟ͡ʝipʔɛlam ɹ̩xao̯ʝiʝ n̩ku Xɔl Xulal] urnujaqnad jicyham jyesyh syharad urmaptaxhuun jeuwjyiki jyhipjelam urhaeuqiq unku xhol xhulal
[ʔaçɔl xaβad pulqam ʔiɸbiʝɛn laβ ʔiɸçimɛʎ̝̊ liθ m̩suɣtad laβ liθ n̥ubad || pʶal sanaʝaʔin laβ saXadn̩ ʔalparʷlam laβ pʶal çaɹmaxɛç liθ ʰtaɹaʔ wae̯jadanun ɟ͡ʝiʝqanam] Jasyhol xawad pulcham jifbiqen law jifsyhimejay lit umsuggtad law lit hnnubad. Pqxwal sanaqajin law saxhadun jalparrlam law pqxwal syharmaxesyh lit hhtaraj weuwjyadanuun jyhiqchanam.
Ew

/a ɛ e̞ i ɔ o̞ ə u/ a e ei i o ou y u
/ae̯ ao̯/ ae ao
/m m̥ n n̥ ɴ/ m hm n hn ng
/p ʰp pʶ b t ʰt tʶ d k ʰk g q ʰq ʔ/ p hp pr b t ht tr d k hk g q hq c
/t͡s c͡ç ɟ͡ʝ/ ts kj gj
/ɸ β s z ç ʝ x ɣ X h/ f v s z hj zj x gh xh h
/ɹ~ɾ ɹ̥ j w/ r hr j w
/rʷ* ʀ/ rw qr
/l l̥ lʶ ʎ̝̊/ l hl lr hlj
/ m̩ n̩ ɹ̩ r̩ʷ*/ m n r rw

apparently also you have θ so <th> for that.

Two examples:
[ɹ̩nuʔaʝnad ʔic͡çam jɛç çaɹad ɹ̩maptaXun ʔae̯jiki ɟ͡ʝipʔɛlam ɹ̩xao̯ʝiʝ n̩ku Xɔl Xulal]
Rnucazjnad cikjam jehj hjarad rmaptaxhun caejiki gjipcelam rxaozjizj nku xhol xhulal.

[ʔaçɔl xaβad pulqam ʔiɸbiʝɛn laβ ʔiɸçimɛʎ̝̊ liθ m̩suɣtad laβ liθ n̥ubad || pʶal sanaʝaʔin laβ saXadn̩ ʔalparʷlam laβ pʶal çaɹmaxɛç liθ ʰtaɹaʔ wae̯jadanun ɟ͡ʝiʝqanam]
Cahjol xavad pulqam cifbizjen lav cifhjimehlj lith msughtad lav lith hnubad. Pral sanazjacin lav saxhadn calparwlam lav pral hjarmaxehj lith htarac waejadanun gjizjqanam.

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If I replace <c> with <'> then it is good, because <c> distracts me.
Also [T D] are allophones of /t d/ word-finally after front vowels, not that it matters for a romanization.
ʾAšol ḵavad pulqam ʾifbižen lav ʾifšimeḻ lit maseḡrad lav lit n͛ubad. ʾUpulasim ṗal sa-panžun lav sa-ḥadṇ lav ṗal šarmaḵeš lit ʾaẏṭ waẏyadanun wižqanam.
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For some reason I thought it was birdman's and I had a bit of a negative reaction to the quadrigraphs... but yeah, no need to have the <th> then.

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