Help your conlang fluency (2)

hwhatting · Post by **hwhatting** » Mon May 18, 2015 12:40 pm

Wit Tarra attu's uffínun. Nup ni nóscumis "tea" attu "coffee".
PRTC Tarr-NOM also be-PRES.ACT:3SG.ENCL island-SG.NOM. And NEG know-PRES.ACT.1PL "tea" and "coffee".
Tarra also is an Island. And we don't know tea or coffee.

Imralu · Post by **Imralu** » Mon May 18, 2015 10:50 pm

jal wrote:Yu swel me mek g-tek:
You can also use g-tags.

Mienas ahe.
[g=forget]miena[/g] [g=yes]ahe[/g]
Ah yes, I forgot.

Teua
thank
Thanks!

Mie kka mulas eni zuo xuo xua matu.
[g=but]mie[/g] [g=no]kka[/g] [g=liked]mula[/g] [g=DAT.1s.ICS]eni[/g] [g=NOM.C]zuo[/g] [g=space]xuo[/g] [g=LOC.3s.INAN.DEF]xua[/g] [g=space.underneath]matu[/g]
But I don't like how there's a gap underneath.

jal · Post by **jal** » Tue May 19, 2015 10:54 am

Imralu wrote:But I don't like how there's a gap underneath.

Ye, it luk dem tebl af som spes ron dem.
Yeah, it looks like the tables have some spacing around them.

JAL

Imralu · Post by **Imralu** » Tue May 19, 2015 12:10 pm

toi ba hue tali hai hie ie iru xuo ixu titi
then.IRR very COMP simple if.IRR allow ACC.3p.INAN.NSPC plural gap NOM.3p.INAN.DEF tt
It would just be a whole lot simpler tt allowed multiple spaces.

YourFace · Post by **YourFace** » Tue May 19, 2015 1:00 pm

Imralu wrote:toi ba hue tali hai hie ie iru xuo ixu titi
then.IRR very COMP simple if.IRR allow ACC.3p.INAN.NSPC plural gap NOM.3p.INAN.DEF tt
It would just be a whole lot simpler tt allowed multiple spaces.

É, kemenashu! Simi ku mukusha, natavulisha ima goloso
é, kemena-shu! simi ku muku-sha, na-tavuli-sha shiu ima goloso
yes | know-I | if past do-it | probable-use-it me for gloss
Yeah, I know! If it did, I would use it for my glosses.

jal · Post by **jal** » Wed May 20, 2015 8:02 am

Imralu wrote:It would just be a whole lot simpler tt allowed multiple spaces.

HTML in kan mek dis. Nof way spes got wan wan spes. Soso yus "code" (HTML "pre") me mek dis.
HTML doesn't allow that [litt. is not allowed to do that]. Multiple white spaces become a single space. Only with "code" (HTML "pre") this is possible [litt. can do this].

JAL

Aili Meilani · Post by **Aili Meilani** » Wed May 20, 2015 10:45 am

jal wrote:HTML doesn't allow that [litt. is not allowed to do that]. Multiple white spaces become a single space. Only with "code" (HTML "pre") this is possible [litt. can do this].

https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/doc ... hite-space

YourFace · Post by **YourFace** » Wed May 20, 2015 6:35 pm

Aili Meilani wrote:
jal wrote:HTML doesn't allow that [litt. is not allowed to do that]. Multiple white spaces become a single space. Only with "code" (HTML "pre") this is possible [litt. can do this].
https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/doc ... hite-space

Dang, daz var seehr hilphreik.
thank.you | that be.past very helpfull.
Thanks, that was very helpfull!

ik hab jetz fanteen keveerte! Jej!
I have now fifteen become | yes
I'm fifteen now! Yay!

Imralu · Post by **Imralu** » Wed May 20, 2015 11:25 pm

Evu moxoguue ikue haha ni xu avata guui.
VOC.2s.ICS face-COP-GEN.2s.ACS PRED-cause laugh ACC.1s.ICS NOM.3s.INAN.DEF avatar COP-GEN.2s.ICS
YourFace, your avatar makes me laugh.

finlay · Post by **finlay** » Thu May 21, 2015 11:00 am

Nizinnakezatuu

PFV-forget-this-2-REL

zekite.

think-1

I think you forgot this.

(Someone even managed to persuade zompist to add it to the bb code. Although it's not perfect by any means!)

YourFace · Post by **YourFace** » Thu May 21, 2015 2:22 pm

Imralu wrote:Evu moxoguue ikue haha ni xu avata guui.
VOC.2s.ICS face-COP-GEN.2s.ACS PRED-cause laugh ACC.1s.ICS NOM.3s.INAN.DEF avatar COP-GEN.2s.ICS
YourFace, your avatar makes me laugh.

Dankû, Imralu. ésè an purt-portreö.
thank | Imralu | is.1.sing.pres a self-portrait
Thanks, Imralu! It's a self-portrait.
not really, I'm joking

jal · Post by **jal** » Fri May 22, 2015 3:25 am

finlay wrote:I think you forgot this.

Im in memba, ova mi redi tel im :).
He forgot [litt. didn't remember], but I already reminded him [litt. told him] :).

JAL

clawgrip · Post by **clawgrip** » Fri May 22, 2015 9:49 am

[g=DEM.PROX]
Pñork[/g] [g=EMPH]
aa[/g] [g=take]
nuim[/g] [g=reason]
nom[/g] [g=use]
chai.[/g]
It certainly is useful.

Clearsand · Post by **Clearsand** » Fri May 22, 2015 9:50 am

Imralu wrote:Evu moxoguue ikue haha ni xu avata guui.
YourFace, your avatar makes me laugh.

Hai woo.
Me too.

Imralu · Post by **Imralu** » Fri May 22, 2015 11:34 am

kka

no

mulas

liked-EPEN

eni

DAT.1s.ICS

zuo

NOM.C

xeva

seen

mo

what

.
I don't like how it looks.

xuo

space

matu

space.underneath

texi

CAUS.3s.INAN.DEF

mo

what

Why are there spaces underneath?

[g=and[CLAUSE]]xe[/g]

iru

plural

varu

bad

And there are problems.

ha

Q

xeva

seen

See?

[g=and[CLAUSE]]xe[/g]

zoua

difficult

xu

NOM.3s.INAN.DEF

le

situation

zara

write

And it's difficult to write.

YourFace · Post by **YourFace** » Fri May 22, 2015 7:34 pm

Imralu wrote:
kka
no

mulas
liked-EPEN

eni
DAT.1s.ICS

zuo
NOM.C

xeva
seen

mo
what
.
I don't like how it looks.

xuo
space

matu
space.underneath
texi
CAUS.3s.INAN.DEF

mo
what

Why are there spaces underneath?

[g=and[CLAUSE]]xe[/g]
iru
plural

varu
bad

And there are problems.

ha
Q

xeva
seen

See?

[g=and[CLAUSE]]xe[/g]
zoua
difficult

xu
NOM.3s.INAN.DEF

le
situation

zara
write

And it's difficult to write.

Vee, daz mas leestik seen.
jesus.christ | that must bothersome be
Jeez, that must be annoying.

clawgrip · Post by **clawgrip** » Fri May 22, 2015 8:40 pm

Imralu wrote:
kka
no

mulas
liked-EPEN

eni
DAT.1s.ICS

zuo
NOM.C

xeva
seen

mo
what
.
I don't like how it looks.

xuo
space

matu
space.underneath
texi
CAUS.3s.INAN.DEF

mo
what

Why are there spaces underneath?

[g=and[CLAUSE]]xe[/g]
iru
plural

varu
bad

And there are problems.

ha
Q

xeva
seen

See?

[g=and[CLAUSE]]xe[/g]
zoua
difficult

xu
NOM.3s.INAN.DEF

le
situation

zara
write

And it's difficult to write.

Pñork

DEM.PROX

lor

be.good

leung

separate

glooay'arm

things

pleu

be.lacking

gna

regardless

lobnih

what

daak.

EMPH

Well, it's better than nothing.

Imralu · Post by **Imralu** » Fri May 22, 2015 9:53 pm

makka
True!

Ti aku eio zoi mivas eni xi ho "woof".
PRF today at.night say finger DAT.1s.ICS NOM.3s.INAN.DEF QUOT "woof"
Tonight, someone fingerspelled woof to me.

Oto to bahe ila nu ja ti kos etu ilia bane geni.
additional thus very.MIR speak NOM.1s.ICS NOM.3s.ACS.DEF PRF similar ~teach language hand COP-DAT.1s.ICS
Also, my former sign language teacher and I had a really good talk.

clawgrip · Post by **clawgrip** » Sat May 23, 2015 2:40 am

Oto to bahe ila nu ja ti kos etu ilia bane geni.
additional thus very.MIR speak NOM.1s.ICS NOM.3s.ACS.DEF PRF similar ~teach language hand COP-DAT.1s.ICS
Also, my former sign language teacher and I had a really good talk.[/quote]

Duool

2

garng

pair

heattaiyng

converse

teuk

use

teuopswa

hand-language

deu?

Q

Did you both speak in sign language?

Thry · Post by **Thry** » Sun May 24, 2015 8:57 am

Fy lirndest du daecnedonge?
Why did you learn sign language?

Imralu · Post by **Imralu** » Sun May 24, 2015 6:04 pm

clawgrip wrote:

Duool
2

garng
pair

heattaiyng
converse

teuk
use

teuopswa
hand-language

deu?
Q

Did you both speak in sign language?

Ahe.
AFF
Yes.

Luna ja.
[g=deaf]luna[/g] [g=NOM.3s.ACS.DEF]ja[/g]
He's Deaf.

Mainu eni zu baru mveje.
[g=known.PART1-PFV.INC-known.PART.2]ma-in-u[/g] [g=DAT.1s.ICS]eni[/g] [g=NOM.3s.INAN.NSPC]zu[/g] [g=many]baru[/g] [g=COP-]g-[/g][g=TOP.3s.ACS.DEF]veje[/g]
I learnt a lot about him.

*g- tags do not like infixes apparently so to avoid busting the code I had to represent the infix -in- really stupidly.

Teuo hale ja zu baru mveni.
[g=second]teuo[/g] [g=ask]hale[/g] [g=NOM.3s.ACS.DEF]ja[/g] [g=NOM.3s.INAN.NSPC]zu[/g] [g=many]baru[/g] [g=COP-]g-[/g][g=TOP.1s.ICS]veni[/g]
Then he asked a lot about me.

To juilo zoi nu eje xi vaijiiu guni.
[g=thus]to[/g] [g=end.up]juilo[/g] [g=say]zoi[/g] [g=NOM.1s.ICS]nu[/g] [g=DAT.3s.ACS.DEF]eje[/g] [g=ACC.3s.INAN.DEF]xi[/g] [g=all-]va-[/g][g=RES-]hi-[/g][g=experience]jiiu[/g] [g=COP]g-[/g][g=GEN.1s.ICS]uni[/g]
So I ended up telling him my story.

Oi lama nua.
[g=almost]oi[/g] [g=tear]lama[/g] [g=LOC.1s.ICS]nua[/g]
I nearly cried.

Teuo gula ni uje lo tehi euo minute
[g=second]teuo[/g] [g=arm]gula[/g] [g=ACC.1s.ICS]ni[/g] [g=GEN.3s.]uje[/g] [g=ADV]lo[/g] [g=maybe]tehi[/g] [g=two]euo[/g] [g=minute]minute[/g]
Then he just held me in his arms for about two minutes.

Xue zoi jo ba xaba zuo tuhu nu.
[g=also]xue[/g] [g=say]zoi[/g] [g=ACC.C]jo[/g] [g=very]ba[/g] [g=happy.situation]xaba[/g] [g=NOM.C]zuo[/g] [g=known]tuhu[/g] [g=NOM.1s.ICS]nu[/g]
He also told me he's really glad he knows me.

Thry wrote:Fy lirndest du daecnedonge?
Why did you learn sign language?

Mola mula xu eni.
[g=merely]mola[/g] [g=liked]mula[/g] [g=NOM.3s.INAN.DEF]xu[/g] [g=DAT.1s.ICS]eni[/g]
I just like it.

Mainiu nu xi ilia banes aselia.
[g=learn.deliberately]mainiu[/g] [g=NOM.1s.ICS]nu[/g] [g=ACC.3s.INAN.DEF]xi[/g] [g=language]ilia[/g] [g=hand]bane[/g] [g=Australia]aselia[/g]
I learned Auslan.

Mie kka mue jahe xuaie tos egue mainu.
[g=but]mie[/g] [g=NEG]kka[/g] [g=able]mue[/g] [g=use]jahe[/g] [g=LOC.3s.INAN.DEF]xua[/g] [g=PROX]tie[/g] [g=thus]to[/g] [g=again]egue[/g] [g=learn.deliberately]mainiu[/g]
But I can't use it here so I'm learning again.

Ultimate Ridley · Post by **Ultimate Ridley** » Sun May 24, 2015 7:56 pm

Bilghem mé ilcómífh e bédh lártfe ténne siomraí.
[ˈvɪːljəm mʲe ˈɪːlkomiʔ ə ˈveːz ˈlɑːrt͡ʃfʲə ˈt͡ʃeːŋə ˈʃɪːmri]

Bilghem

want

mé

1s

ilcómífh

always

e

CNJ

bédh

FUT

lárt-

learn-

fe

FUT

ténne

language

siomr-

symbol-

aí.

PL

I've always wanted to learn sign language.

Imralu · Post by **Imralu** » Mon May 25, 2015 2:38 am

Ultimate Ridley wrote:Bilghem mé ilcómífh e bédh lártfe ténne siomraí.
[ˈvɪːljəm mʲe ˈɪːlkomiʔ ə ˈveːz ˈlɑːrt͡ʃfʲə ˈt͡ʃeːŋə ˈʃɪːmri]

Bilghem
want

mé
1s

ilcómífh
always

e
CNJ

bédh
FUT

lárt-
learn-
fe
FUT

ténne
language

siomr-
symbol-
aí.
PL

I've always wanted to learn sign language.

To kua tiaia.
[g=thus]to[/g] [g=JUSS]kua[/g] [g=MED]tia[/g][g=-do]-iV[/g]
Then do it. / Then you should.

Amo xu mala guui?
[g=be.LOC-]a-[/g][g=what]mo[/g] [g=NOM.3s.INAN.DEF]xu[/g] [g=house]mala[/g] [g=COP-]g-[/g][g=GEN.2s.ICS]uui[/g]
Where do you live?

Thry · Post by **Thry** » Mon May 25, 2015 11:21 am

Na vreynde (hoeraere) an y wilden at lirnen-se (ADD), an wir breusten-se aens at sprecen in en examen.
Me and a (hearing) friend wanted to learn it (ASL), and we used it once to talk during an exam.

VT45 · Post by **VT45** » Mon May 25, 2015 2:16 pm

O-daźiar zá omia-úz Láńgveź Soań.
[ɑ-ˈdɐ.ʒi.ˌɐɾ za ˈɑ.mi.ˌɐ-yz ˈlãg.vɛʒ ˈsɑ.ɐ̃.]
Desire 1S PRS CONJ use 1S SUBJ Language Sign.
I wish I knew Sign Language.

Eć itilisám većen iśi.
[ɛtʃ ˈi.ti.ˌli.sam ˈvɛ.tʃɛn ˈi.ʃi.]
Be 3S PRS useful EMP here.
It's very useful here.

Pipu zá źiaspić láńgveźeź defreń zá źia-úz Láńgveź Soań zá ta-dita.
[ˈpi.pu za ˈʒi.ɐs.ˌpitʃ ˈlãg.vɛ.ˌʒɛʒ ˈdɛ.fɾɛ̃ za ˈʒi.ɐ-yz ˈlãg.vɛʒ ˈsɑ.ɐ̃ za tɐ-ˈdi.tɐ.]
People CONJ speak 3P PRS languages different CONJ use 3P PRS Language Sign CONJ tell INF.
People who speak different languages use Sign Language to communicate with each other.

In Daneś' world, ASL has become a fossilised standard that many people learn for the express purpose of communicating with people who speak different languages. In interpretation settings, signers are highly sought because of the streamlining affect their skills have in international communications. However, this only applies to North America.

But basically think of it as filling the role of Plains Indian Sign Language.

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