Im probably just used to associating ʔ with ɑ, im unsure how you got them actually lowering vowels as i cant see anywhere that the pharyngeal stop clusters lower the vowels. If they did there would be an L before them at some stage in the sound shiftvokzhen wrote:احمک ارش-ھجنو wrote:These sound changes all check out?:
Well, first of all that's not pharyngealization versus epiglottalization. The pharyngeals he lists *do* lower the vowels. But also I'm not sure it's true both will lower: I remember seeing diagrams of tongue position in some Khoisan language of /i/ versus /iˁ/ versus /iʢ/ and there were some pretty noticeable differences between the latter two (iirc the pharyngealization was all in the back, with the front constriction actually being almost identical to /i/, whereas epiglottalization pulled the entire tongue back). Every time it comes up it kills them that I can't find that paper again. Though I still think it's *likely* both will lower.Nymrīs wrote:If it would lower the vowel in the case of epiglottals it most definetly will in the case of pharyngeals i suggest changing the shift to.احمک ارش-ھجنو wrote:ʔp/ > /p/ > /p/ > /p/
/ʔt/ > /t/ > /t/ > /t/
/ʔk/ > /k/ > /k/ > /k/
/ʔq/ > /q/ > /q/ > /q/
/ʡp/ > /Lp/ > /p/ > /p/ <= L = lowered vowel
/ʡt/ > /Lt/ > /t/ > /t/
/ʡk/ > /Lk/ > /k/ > /k/
/ʡq/ > /Lq/ > /q/ > /q/
/ʔt/ > /ʁt or /ɣt > /t/ > /t/ > /t/
/ʡt/ > /ʔt > /Lt/ > /t/ > /t/
Also arabic guy (your name is finicky to deal with) sorry last time i checked wikipedia distinguished pharyngeals and epiglottals and the signs /ʡ ħ/ were for epiglottals but now their trills.
/x/ is attested in certain environments, I would imagine it could also move to /χ/.
