Help your conlang fluency (2)

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Middle Laeh Tshyak traditional orthography: Gkrawam yaer ra zhe skhlewam triya kthing yuh rik ktaew zhe.
Middle Laeh Tshyak "grammarian" orthography: Krawam yae' ra zye skyêwam tsrhíya tîng yù' rik táew zye.
Middle Laeh Tshyak transcription: [kɻàːwàɴ jɛ̀ ɻàː ʑèː skjéːəwàɴ tʂʰíːjà tɯ́əɴ jʊ̀ə ɻɯ̀ʔ tʌ́w ʑèː]
I am glad I am done making slides at work.
Dibotahamdn duthma jallni agaynni ra hgitn lakrhmi.
Amuhawr jalla vowa vta hlakrhi hdm duthmi xaja.
Irdro. Irdro. Irdro. Irdro. Irdro. Irdro. Irdro.

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Middle Tshyak traditional orthography: May kha mtro lyum rwet khur gkrep ak ghliw mtha thing na tsham may zhe.
Middle Tshyak "grammarian" orthography: May qhá dzró lyuim roet qhúu kep ák hliw dhá thíng na tshám may sye.
Middle Tshyak transcription: [māj qʰá dʐó ʎȳm ɻø̌t̚ qʰúː kěp̚ ʔák̚ ɬīw dʰá tʰíŋ nā tsʰám māj ɕē]
Middle Laeh Tshyak traditional orthography: Kha mtro lun ryot khur gkret ak ghliwamae mtha thing na tshamci zhe.
Middle Laeh Tshyak "grammarian" orthography: Khâ ntsró luin roet khûir kret ák hliwamae ntâ thîng na tshâmtsyí zye.
Middle Laeh Tshyak transcription: [kʰɐ́ː ɳtʂóː lỳɴ ɻø̀ʔ kʰʏ́ə kɻèʔ ʔɑ́ʔ ɬìːwàmɛ̀ ntɐ́ː tʰɯ́əɴ nàː tsʰɐ́ɲtɕí ʑè]
Old Tshyak orthography: Kha mtrwo lyum gkrep khur rwet ak bhliwamya pthing na tshamshi zhe.
Old Tshyak transcription: [kʰa mətʂwo ljum gəkɻep̚ kʰuɻ ɻwet̚ ʔak̚ bəɬiwamja pətʰiŋ na tsʰamɕi ʑe]
Tomorrow I need to test some more and merge my slides.
Last edited by Travis B. on Wed Apr 06, 2016 1:10 pm, edited 2 times in total.
Dibotahamdn duthma jallni agaynni ra hgitn lakrhmi.
Amuhawr jalla vowa vta hlakrhi hdm duthmi xaja.
Irdro. Irdro. Irdro. Irdro. Irdro. Irdro. Irdro.

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Mi in se mi a go ray wo ting. It me mi les ol fi mos.
I don't know what to write. Perhaps I should shut up.


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Middle Laeh Tshyak traditional orthography: Ghlaoramae khrow tae lwakya kha ra zhe sgwapam zhe.
Middle Laeh Tshyak "grammarian" orthography: Hlaoramae khrôw tháe loacá khâ ra zye zgóapam zye.
Middle Laeh Tshyak transcription: [ɬɔ̀ːɻàmɛ̀ kʰɻɔ́əw tʰɛ́ː lɒ̀ːcá kʰɐ́ː ɻàː ʑèː zgɒ́páɴ ʑèː]
Old Tshyak orthography: Bslaoramya khrow tae lwakya kha ra zhe sgwapam zhe.
Old Tshyak transcription: [bəslɔɻamja kʰɻow tɛ lwaca kʰa ɻa ʑe səgwapam ʑe]
I just write random things when I am bored.
Dibotahamdn duthma jallni agaynni ra hgitn lakrhmi.
Amuhawr jalla vowa vta hlakrhi hdm duthmi xaja.
Irdro. Irdro. Irdro. Irdro. Irdro. Irdro. Irdro.

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Nnnnnnuuuuuumqoouuud nnnnnnuudnnnnnnuud üüüööööööüüü gguuooouu qoouuum.
[ɴːɯ́˞kɯ̀˞qʷɚ́ ɴːɯ́ɴːɯ́ kɯ̄˞ʡːɯ̄˞ ʕːɯʡːɯ qʷɯ̄˞]
nnn~nnn-uuuuum-qoouuud nnn~nnn-uud~nnn~nnn-uud uuu-oooooouuu gguuooouu qoouuud\m
COLL~INAN-GER-construct COLL~INAN-language~all_of A-1S this construct\1S
I made a conlang. It is the best of all conlangs.

Ngnguudtouuuud: Q̈ööüüüüüüööööööüüüüüüd̈ N̈n̈n̈n̈n̈n̈üüd̈.
[ŋːɯ́tɬʼɯ̄kɯ́ qʷɯ̄˞kɯ̄˞ʡʷːɯ̄˞kɯ́˞ ɴːɯ́]
ngnguudtouu-uud: asjidifaf
say-4S sdslfjalsdf
It is called Qoouuuuuuoooooouuuuuud Nnnnnnuud.
Siöö jandeng raiglin zåbei tandiüłåd;
nää džunnfin kukuch vklaivei sivei tåd.
Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei.

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MIddle Tshyak traditional orthography: May kroha ra zhe ning yot hla that wi nyu kae [ɯ].
Middle Tshyak "grammarian" orthography: May kóh ra sye ning yoet hlá thát wui nyui káe [ɯ].
Middle Tshyak transcription: [māj kóh ɻā ɕē nīŋ jø̄t̚ ɬá tʰát̚ wȳ ɲȳ kɛ́ ɯ]
Middle Laeh Tshyak traditional orthography: Kroham ra zhe ryot sthatarak myu pkae [ɯ] le.
Middle Laeh Tshyak "grammarian" orthography: Khróhám ra zye ryoet stâtárak myui káe [ɯ] le.
Middle Laeh Tshyak transcription: [kʰɻóːháɴ ɻàː ʑèː ɻjø̀ʔ stɐ́ːtáɻɑ̀ʔ mjỳː kɛ́ː ɯ lèː]
Old Tshyak orthography: Kroham ra zhe myitarak pkae [ɯ] ryet.
Old Tshyak orthography: [kɻoham ɻa ʑe mjitaɻak̚ pəkɛ ɯ ɻjet̚]
I think you overused [ɯ].
Last edited by Travis B. on Thu Apr 07, 2016 12:28 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Dibotahamdn duthma jallni agaynni ra hgitn lakrhmi.
Amuhawr jalla vowa vta hlakrhi hdm duthmi xaja.
Irdro. Irdro. Irdro. Irdro. Irdro. Irdro. Irdro.

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Mi tingk Nortaneous won ful minu.
I think N wants to fool us.


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Middle Tshyak traditional orthography: May kroha ra zhe Naor-The-Ngyaeh hla wita thrwae trap shaey zram kae ngya ew-ro-pa.
Middle Tshyak "grammarian" orthography: May kóh ra sye Naoo-Thé-Nyàe hlá wīt tsrhéo tsráp syáey sram káe nya éw-ro-pá.
Middle Tshyak transcription: [māj kóh ɻā ɕē nɔ̄ːtʰéɲɛ̀ə ɬá wīt̚ tʂʰœ́ tʂáp̚ ɕɛ́j ʂām kɛ́ ɲā ʔéwɻōpá]
Middle Laeh Tshyak traditional orthography: Kroham ra zhe Naorthenyaeh thrwaetara trap shaey zram pkae ngya ewropa.
Middle Laeh Tshyak "grammarian" orthography: Khróham ra zye Nao'tênyàe tsrhêotára tsrháp syáey zram káe ngya éwropá.
Middle Laeh Tshyak transcription: [kʰɻóːhàɴ ɻà ʑè nɔ̀téənjɛ̀ə tʂʰœ́ːətáɻà tʂʰáʔ ɕɛ́j ʐàɴ kɛ́ː ɲàː ʔéwɻòpá]
Old Tshyak orthography: Kroham ra zhe Naorthenyah thrwaetara trap shaey zram pkae ewropa ngya.
Old Tshyak transcription: [kɻoham ɻa ʑe nɔɻtʰenjah tʂʰwɛtaɻa tʂap̚ ɕɛj ʐam pəkɛ ʔewɻopa ɲa]
I think Nort wanted to win the non-European phonology thread.
Last edited by Travis B. on Thu Apr 07, 2016 8:50 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Dibotahamdn duthma jallni agaynni ra hgitn lakrhmi.
Amuhawr jalla vowa vta hlakrhi hdm duthmi xaja.
Irdro. Irdro. Irdro. Irdro. Irdro. Irdro. Irdro.

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Tí Nortanho eita lical Luimbãda voldur?
Or maybe Nortaneous wanted to create a version of Entish?

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Travis B. wrote:I think Nort wanted to win the non-European phonology thread.
Vo varo linas kamusge, la?
[ˈvo ˈvaːɹɾo ˈlinas ˈkamusge | la]
vo
3SG.M
varo
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linas
behind
kamus
do
-ge
-PAST
la
yeah

Hasn't he already done that?
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Adúljôžal ônal kol ví éža únah kex yaxlr gmlĥ hôga jô ônal kru ansu frú.
Ansu frú ônal savel zaš gmlĥ a vek Adúljôžal vé jaga čaþ kex.
Ônal zeh. Ônal zeh. Ônal zeh. Ônal zeh. Ônal zeh. Ônal zeh. Ônal zeh.

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Be su, an su meva ti meva te.
Many times over, I would think.

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ɔʔ Cǝwiʔ, ndao-cǝtaḥ nduo-car mɛṃ-kɔr a aṃ mǝndar ñjrao?
Travis, are all the different transcription systems really necessary?
Some useful Dravian links: Grammar - Lexicon - Ask a Dravian
Salmoneus wrote:(NB Dewrad is behaving like an adult - a petty, sarcastic and uncharitable adult, admittedly, but none the less note the infinitely higher quality of flame)

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Dewrad wrote:really
Utmu, utnavi mu, doti trat ti, deu u mot? "Particle" tide?
Say, how is the focus here conveyed in your lang? Through a particle?

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Dewrad wrote:ɔʔ Cǝwiʔ, ndao-cǝtaḥ nduo-car mɛṃ-kɔr a aṃ mǝndar ñjrao?
Travis, are all the different transcription systems really necessary?
Gey źe ʔam ga nəgraʔ ra ga na law myanʔ ləkryih ka səlèp ra tre źe ʔam po ləkryih ŋya na law ŋya plôʔ.
[gej ʑe ʔam ga nəgraʔ ɻa ga na law mjanʔ ləkɻyih ka səlɛp̚ ɻa tɻe ʑe ʔam pɤ ləkɻyih ŋja na law ŋja plɔʔ]
They're there because the traditional ones are opaque so I made ones that are not opaque but anachronistic.
Dibotahamdn duthma jallni agaynni ra hgitn lakrhmi.
Amuhawr jalla vowa vta hlakrhi hdm duthmi xaja.
Irdro. Irdro. Irdro. Irdro. Irdro. Irdro. Irdro.

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Travis B. wrote:I think Nort wanted to win the non-European phonology thread.
[ˈæmˠχ ˈze.ʏmʀ ˈyn̪kf. ˈħeə̯ ˈæmˠlən ˈxlvɛmˠɪ pˠɪ ˈft̪θæ ˈjʀ̩ɪpˌxiə̯ ˈuə̯.ɪ.ʏ, bʀ̩ˈsiə̯mlχ ˈħtæʀpˠs]
Ëmwx zéômr ûnhkf. Ghea ë́mwlan xlvếmwi pwe fthë yá̧epxie úaëô, Ba̧síemlx Ghtërpws udv.
1S-ABS always win-IPFV | this 1S-GEN great and maximally Europe-like language Ba̧siemlx Ghtërpws COP-IPFV
I always win. This is my excellent, 100% phonologically European conlang, Basiemlx Ghterpws.
Siöö jandeng raiglin zåbei tandiüłåd;
nää džunnfin kukuch vklaivei sivei tåd.
Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei.

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Xū mende!
Hello all!

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Nortaneous wrote:
Travis B. wrote:I think Nort wanted to win the non-European phonology thread.
[ˈæmˠχ ˈze.ʏmʀ ˈyn̪kf. ˈħeə̯ ˈæmˠlən ˈxlvɛmˠɪ pˠɪ ˈft̪θæ ˈjʀ̩ɪpˌxiə̯ ˈuə̯.ɪ.ʏ, bʀ̩ˈsiə̯mlχ ˈħtæʀpˠs]
Ëmwx zéômr ûnhkf. Ghea ë́mwlan xlvếmwi pwe fthë yá̧epxie úaëô, Ba̧síemlx Ghtërpws udv.
1S-ABS always win-IPFV | this 1S-GEN great and maximally Europe-like language Ba̧siemlx Ghtërpws COP-IPFV
I always win. This is my excellent, 100% phonologically European conlang, Basiemlx Ghterpws.
Yó ʔah si glèwʔ ʔewrópa ʔaŋ blaś law ʔətriŋ hyaŋʔ təkèh gəpluy.
3.SG
ʔah
ERG.INAN
si
APSS
glèwʔ
seem.IPFV
ʔewrópa
be.European
ʔaŋ
EMPH
blaś
be.real
law
be.COM
ʔətriŋ
noise
hyaŋʔ
cough
təkèh
throat
gəpluy.
be.deep

[jo ʔah si glɛwʔ ʔewɻopa ʔaŋ blaɕ law ʔətɻiŋ hjaŋʔ təkɛh gəplɯj]
That really seems very European.
Dibotahamdn duthma jallni agaynni ra hgitn lakrhmi.
Amuhawr jalla vowa vta hlakrhi hdm duthmi xaja.
Irdro. Irdro. Irdro. Irdro. Irdro. Irdro. Irdro.

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Lme wrote:Hello all!
Ola Lme! Welkom!
Hello Lme! Welcome!

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Lme wrote:Xū mende!
Hello all!
ʔa Ləme ʔò gya dryaŋ!
ʔa
VOC
Ləme
Lme
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VN
gya
come.PFV
dryaŋ
be.good

[ʔa ləme ʔʌ gja dɻjaŋ]
Welcome Lme!
Dibotahamdn duthma jallni agaynni ra hgitn lakrhmi.
Amuhawr jalla vowa vta hlakrhi hdm duthmi xaja.
Irdro. Irdro. Irdro. Irdro. Irdro. Irdro. Irdro.

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Lme wrote:Xū mende!
Hello all!
Tuigi úrnhu zebeser, Lme!
/'twiʒi 'uʁɲʊ zɪbɪsɛʁ 'ɛlmɛ/
Word-pl 3p-2s.hot-benefactive many.be-durative.telic.passive / Lme
Many words to you, Lme!

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Xū bažar di namag dujin saan bant!

Thank you all for receiving me!

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Səka kòw leŋ səblew źe ʔam ra məhəkrè ka ʔam śəpo rətśuŋ ʔəgriw həkèy rəklanʔ sətsyak.
Səka
be.at_time
kòw
day
leŋ
PROX
səblew
remember.PFV
źe
DIR
ʔam
1
ra
COMP
məhəkrè
forget.PFV
ka
DED
ʔam
1
śəpo
take.PFV
rətśuŋ
form
ʔəgriw
result
həkèy
put.PFV
rəklanʔ
language_variety
sətsyak.
Tshyak

[səka kʌw leŋ səblew ʑe ʔam ɻa məhəkɻɛ ka ʔam ɕəpɤ ɻətɕɯŋ ʔəgɻiw həkɛj ɻəklanʔ sətsjak̚]
I remembered today that I forgot to put resultatives in the Tshyak languages.
Dibotahamdn duthma jallni agaynni ra hgitn lakrhmi.
Amuhawr jalla vowa vta hlakrhi hdm duthmi xaja.
Irdro. Irdro. Irdro. Irdro. Irdro. Irdro. Irdro.

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Sajiwan af soso dol risoltatif konsrokcion, sem Ingles. "Mi kola dis doh ret", "Mi swayk di plet bwok" etc.
[sɐˈɟʝiwɐ̃ ɐf ˈsoso dol riˈsoltatif kɒ̃ˈsrokcçɒ̃ sem iŋˈgles / mi ˈkolɐ dis doː ret / mi sʷɐjk di plet bʷoːk ɐn ɐn]
Sajiwan only has a boring resultative contstruction, like English. "I painted this door red", "I broke the plate" (litt. "I hit the plate broken") etc.


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(I am not going to write this in a Tshyak language because I am at work and do not want to spend too much time on it.)

Now, any stative verb can be marked for being resultative, by a clitic (in Proto-Tshyak), a prefix (in Old Tshyak), or an auxiliary verb (in standard Middle Tshyak or Middle Laeh Tshyak), indicating a change in state, and an English-like resultative construction involving an event verb takes the form of S event O resultative state*; while in Tshyak languages serial verb constructions' subjects are the subject of the main verb or the action indicated by the main verb as a whole, this is an exception, where O is the subject of resultative state*. Note that there are transitive stative verbs that can be marked as being resultative, such as Proto-Tshyak lie tsay (pfv.) / tsuy (ipfv.), and this allows forms like S event O resultative state O.

* Note that resultative state is replaced with just state-change for verbs that are inherently resultative, such as Proto-Tshyak die rwè (pfv.) / rwò (ipfv.).
Dibotahamdn duthma jallni agaynni ra hgitn lakrhmi.
Amuhawr jalla vowa vta hlakrhi hdm duthmi xaja.
Irdro. Irdro. Irdro. Irdro. Irdro. Irdro. Irdro.

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