Romanization challenge thread

[mèþru]

/ʁ ʔ/ <r ʔ>
I personally would prefer using an <r> anyway, despite being non-rhotic.

[mèþru]

According to challenge:
<t c | d k q ?>
<! < / 2 4 &>
<% s $ z x ^ h>
<l r j w>
<n>

<i 1 u 9>
<e 3 ~ o 0>
<a @>
Now for the usual:
<t ts ť tš k q ʔ>
<t' ts' ť' tš' k' q'>
<þ s ś š x q̇ h>
<l r j w>
<n>

<i ii u uu>
<e ee ĕ o oo>
<a aa>

agefaqeg-style:
<t ts tś tš k q>
<th tsh tśh tšh kh qh>
<þ s ś š x q̇ hh>
<l r rj u>
<n>

<i ii ɨ ɨɨ>
<e ee ê ɇ ɇɇ>
<ao aoao>

[Pole, the]

*cri* I edited my post.

Well then.

/t ts tʃ tɕ k q ʔ/ «t c c j k q '»
/t' ts' tʃ' tɕ' k' q'/ «d z z j g q»
/θ s ʃ ɕ x χ h/ «f s s x x h h»
/l ɹ j ɰ/ «l r y w»
/n/ «n»

/i i: ɯ ɯ:/ «i i u u»
/e e: ə ɤ ɤ:/ «e e v o o»
/ɑ ɑ:/ «a a»

(Ambiguities are resolved by context.)

[opipik]

@Benturi: /m n b t d k g q ɢ~ʁ ʔ s h l i a u/ <m n b t d k ng q g c s h l i a u>
/m n ɲ ŋ p ph b t th d ʦ ʦh ʣ tʂ tʂh dʐ ʧ ʧh ʤ ʨ ʨh ʥ k kh g q qh ɢ~ʁ ʔ s z ʂ ʐ ʃ ʒ ɕ ʑ x ɣ h ɦ l ɬ i y e ø ə a ɑ o u/ <m n ny ng p ph b t th d ts tsh dz tṣ tṣh dẓ c ch j c ch j k kh g q qh gh c s z ṣ ẓ sh r x ẍ ḥ gḥ h ɦ l i ü e ö a aa o u>

----

/t ts tʃ tɕ k q ʔ/ <d z j j g c '>
/t' ts' tʃ' tɕ' k' q'/ <t s j j k q>
/θ s ʃ ɕ x χ h/ <f s x x h h h>
/l ɹ j ɰ/ <l r y g>
/n/ <n>

/i i: ɯ ɯ:/ <i i u u>
/e e: ə ɤ ɤ:/ <e e o o o>
/ɑ ɑ:/ <a a>

----

/t ts tʃ tɕ k q ʔ/ <t c č č̛ k q ʔ>
/t' ts' tʃ' tɕ' k' q'/ <ṭ c̣ č̣ č̛̣ ḳ q̣>
/θ s ʃ ɕ x χ h/ <f s š š̛ x ẍ h>
/l ɹ j ɰ/ <l r y w>
/n/ <n>

/i i: ɯ ɯ:/ <i i̠ u u̠>
/e e: ə ɤ ɤ:/ <e e̲ ə o o̲>
/ɑ ɑ:/ <a a̲>

[opipik]

Awara

/p b t d k kʷ ɡ ɡʷ/
/m n ŋ ŋʷ/
/β s ɣ h/
/l j/

/i e ʌ ɑ o u/

/gʷendune jekʌp kukumʌk, Jʌkutuŋkʌt. βɑndotde kɑhit tʌpʌ kopbumʌk. tʌko Jʌkutuŋu Mʌtʌn dupine teke nʌ kupilʌne nʌtʌ gʌmʌk kopbum. koŋu kupɑhɑŋgʌmʌnune kʌlɑβu tʌpʌtu kɑkum. nomgʌmʌn kɑke, tosu tʌpɑ ihiβʌn, kuhitnɑne mɑpɑ pukukut. tiβʌn kʌlɑβu ulʌpʌ kɑke, kʷɑlemu tulike, kɑsimɑ dʌkʌtu hoŋ tɑhɑkum. tikeŋu dʌkʌtu kʌjʌn, tikeŋu dʌkʌtu tulikum pʌjʌn, tikeŋu dʌkʌtu tulikumu, βɑsekŋʌ dʌkʌ ɑmumbɑ puluβʌnu, kʷɑlem gutoŋu ɑjɑji puke, ɑmuhɑɣʌtɑn mumbɑ kukin. tiβʌn jiβʌɣɑβɑ Jʌkutuŋu ɑɣopbut. tiβʌnu unetʌ hipdu Mɑkdʌkʌne kopbumʌk. kokeŋu kʌlɑpde jʌβʌ tʌkopdɑ mɑliβʌnu, hipdu unetʌ tʌtɑ tʌkʷʌmbʌn, jolune epbumʌk. uniŋgʌn./

[Nortaneous]

7-bit or 8-bit ASCII?

7-bit:

/t ts tʃ tɕ k q ʔ/ <t c 2 p k q '>
/t' ts' tʃ' tɕ' k' q'/ <d z 9 b g ">
/θ s ʃ ɕ x χ h/ <f s $ x j v h>
/l ɹ j ɰ/ <l r y w>
/n/ <n>

/i i: ɯ ɯ:/ <i 1 u 8>
/e e: ə ɤ ɤ:/ <e 3 @ o 7>
/ɑ ɑ:/ <a 6>

8-bit:

/t ts tʃ tɕ k q ʔ/ <t c ¢ ç k q '>
/t' ts' tʃ' tɕ' k' q'/ <d z £ ÿ g ¬>
/θ s ʃ ɕ x χ h/ <f s $ x j v h>
/l ɹ j ɰ/ <l r y w>
/n/ <n>

/i i: ɯ ɯ:/ <i í u ú>
/e e: ə ɤ ɤ:/ <e é ë o ó>
/ɑ ɑ:/ <a á>

[KathTheDragon]

Ok, I'll rephrase - Basic Latin, not ASCII. Also, why are you (pl) trying to make it without digraphs? That's meant to be an entirely different romanisation, which I now have.

[Pole, the]

Ok, I'll rephrase - Basic Latin, not ASCII. Also, why are you (pl) trying to make it without digraphs?

Because it's fun.

[Nortaneous]

Basic Latin and 7-bit ASCII contain the same exact characters.

/t ts tʃ tɕ k q ʔ/ <t c ch q k kh '>
/t' ts' tʃ' tɕ' k' q'/ <d z zh j g gh>
/θ s ʃ ɕ x χ h/ <th s sh yh x xh h>
/l ɹ j ɰ/ <l r y w>
/n/ <n>

/i i: ɯ ɯ:/ <i ii u uu>
/e e: ə ɤ ɤ:/ <ei ee e o oo>
/ɑ ɑ:/ <a aa>

[Nortaneous]

Basic Latin and 7-bit ASCII contain the same exact characters.

/t ts tʃ tɕ k q ʔ/ <t c ch q k kh '>
/t' ts' tʃ' tɕ' k' q'/ <d z zh j g gh>
/θ s ʃ ɕ x χ h/ <th s sh yh x xh h>
/l ɹ j ɰ/ <l r y w>
/n/ <n>

/i i: ɯ ɯ:/ <i ii u uu>
/e e: ə ɤ ɤ:/ <ei ee e o oo>
/ɑ ɑ:/ <a aa>

[opipik]

/p b t d k kʷ ɡ ɡʷ/ <p b t d k kw ḡ ḡw>
/m n ŋ ŋʷ/ <m n g gw>
/β s ɣ h/ <v s q h>
/l j/ <l y>

/i e ʌ ɑ o u/ <i e o a ö u>

/gʷendune jekʌp kukumʌk, Jʌkutuŋkʌt. βɑndotde kɑhit tʌpʌ kopbumʌk. tʌko Jʌkutuŋu Mʌtʌn dupine teke nʌ kupilʌne nʌtʌ gʌmʌk kopbum. koŋu kupɑhɑŋgʌmʌnune kʌlɑβu tʌpʌtu kɑkum. nomgʌmʌn kɑke, tosu tʌpɑ ihiβʌn, kuhitnɑne mɑpɑ pukukut. tiβʌn kʌlɑβu ulʌpʌ kɑke, kʷɑlemu tulike, kɑsimɑ dʌkʌtu hoŋ tɑhɑkum. tikeŋu dʌkʌtu kʌjʌn, tikeŋu dʌkʌtu tulikum pʌjʌn, tikeŋu dʌkʌtu tulikumu, βɑsekŋʌ dʌkʌ ɑmumbɑ puluβʌnu, kʷɑlem gutoŋu ɑjɑji puke, ɑmuhɑɣʌtɑn mumbɑ kukin. tiβʌn jiβʌɣɑβɑ Jʌkutuŋu ɑɣopbut. tiβʌnu unetʌ hipdu Mɑkdʌkʌne kopbumʌk. kokeŋu kʌlɑpde jʌβʌ tʌkopdɑ mɑliβʌnu, hipdu unetʌ tʌtɑ tʌkʷʌmbʌn, jolune epbumʌk. uniŋgʌn./

Ḡwendune yekop kukumok, Yokutugkot. Vandötde kahit topo köpbumok. Tokö Yokutugu Moton dupine teke no kupilone noto ḡomok köpbum. Kögu kupahagḡomonune kolavu topotu kakum. Nömḡomon kake, tösu topa ihivon, kuhitnane mapa pukukut. Tivon kolavu ulopo kake, kwalemu tulike, kasima dokotu hög tahakum. Tikegu dokotu koyon, tikegu dokotu tulikum poyon, tikegu dokotu tulikumu, vasekgo doko amumba puluvonu, kwalem ḡutögu ayayi puke, amuhaqotan mumba kukin. Tivon yivoqava Jokutugu aqöpbut. Tivonu uneto hipdu Makdokone köpbumok. Kökegu kolapde yovo toköpda malivonu, hipdu uneto tota tokwombon, yölune epbumok. Unigḡon.

[KathTheDragon]

Ok, I'll rephrase again - not frikkin' numbers.

[opipik]

/t ts tʃ tɕ k q ʔ/ <d dz dj j g q '>
/t' ts' tʃ' tɕ' k' q'/ <t ts tc c k kw>
/θ s ʃ ɕ x χ h/ <th s ssh sh x xw h>
/l ɹ j ɰ/ <l r y hw>
/n/ <n>

/i i: ɯ ɯ:/ <i ii u uu>
/e e: ə ɤ ɤ:/ <e ee o ou oo>
/ɑ ɑ:/ <a aa>

[Nortaneous]

/t ts tʃ tɕ k q ʔ/ <t + c { k q '>
/t' ts' tʃ' tɕ' k' q'/ <d = z } g
/θ s ʃ ɕ x χ h/ <f s $ x j v h>
/l ɹ j ɰ/ <l r y w>
/n/ <n>

/i i: ɯ ɯ:/ <i ! u ?>
/e e: ə ɤ ɤ:/ <e # @ o %>
/ɑ ɑ:/ <a &>

[mèþru]

Redoing Kath's language
<t ts tsc tc g q x>
<t' ts' tsc' tc' k' q'>
<th s sc c kh qh xh>
<l r j v>
<n>

<i ii u uu>
<e ee y o oo>
<a aa>

Awara:

Avala

Please don't use capital letters in your phonetic/phonemic transcription of the language.

<p b t d k kw g gw>
<m n ŋ ŋw>
<v s r h>
<l j>

<i e ɇ a o u>

Gwendune jekɇp kukumɇk, Jɇkutuŋkɇt. Vandotde kahit tɇpɇ kopbumɇk. Tɇko Jɇkutuŋu Mɇtɇn dupine teke nɇ kupilɇne nɇtɇ gɇmɇk kopbum. Koŋu kupahaŋgɇmɇnune kɇlavu tɇpɇtu kakum. Nomgɇmɇn kake, tosu tɇpa ihivɇn, kuhitnane mapa pukukut. Tivɇn kɇlavu ulɇpɇ kake, kwalemu tulike, kasima dɇkɇtu hoŋ tahakum. Tikeŋu dɇkɇtu kɇjɇn, tikeŋu dɇkɇtu tulikum pɇjɇn, tikeŋu dɇkɇtu tulikumu, vasekŋɇ dɇkɇ amumba puluvɇnu, kwalem gutoŋu ajaji puke, amuharɇtan mumba kukin. Tivɇn jivɇrava Jɇkutuŋu aropbut. Ttivɇnu unetɇ hipdu Makdɇkɇne kopbumɇk. Kokeŋu kɇlapde jɇvɇ tɇkopda malivɇnu, Hipdu unetɇ tɇta tɇkwɇmbɇn, jolune epbumɇk. Uniŋgɇn.

agefaqeg-style:

Awala

<p b t d k kw g gw>
<m n ŋ ŋw>
<w s gh h>
<l r>

<i e ɇ ao o u>

gwendune jekɇp kukumɇk, jɇkutuŋkɇt, waondotde kaohit tɇpɇ kopbumɇk, tɇko jɇkutuŋu mɇtɇn dupine teke nɇ kupilɇne nɇtɇ gɇmɇk kopbum, koŋu kupaohaoŋgɇmɇnune kɇlaowu tɇpɇtu kaokum, nomgɇmɇn kaoke, tosu tɇpao ihiwɇn, kuhitnaone maopao pukukut, tiwɇn kɇlaowu ulɇpɇ kaoke, kwaolemu tulike, kaosimao dɇkɇtu hoŋ taohaokum, tikeŋu dɇkɇtu kɇjɇn, tikeŋu dɇkɇtu tulikum pɇjɇn, tikeŋu dɇkɇtu tulikumu, waosekŋɇ dɇkɇ aomumbao puluwɇnu, kwaolem gutoŋu aojaoji puke, aomuhaoghɇtaon mumbao kukin, tiwɇn jiwɇghaowao jɇkutuŋu aoghopbut, tiwɇnu unetɇ hipdu maokdɇkɇne kopbumɇk, kokeŋu kɇlaopde jɇwɇ tɇkopdao maoliwɇnu, hipdu unetɇ tɇtao tɇkwɇmbɇn, jolune epbumɇk, uniŋgɇn,

[KathTheDragon]

There's no winning with you, is there Nort?

[Haplogy]

/t ts tʃ tɕ k q ʔ/ d z zh zy g gq q
/t' ts' tʃ' tɕ' k' q'/ t c ch cy k kq
/θ s ʃ ɕ x χ h/ ff s sh sy kh kqh qh
/l ɹ j ɰ/ l r y w
/n/ m

/i i: ɯ ɯ:/ i ii u uu
/e e: ə ɤ ɤ:/ e ie y o uo
/ɑ ɑ:/ a aa

[Frislander]

/t ts tʃ tɕ k q ʔ/ <<t c ch j k q '>>
/t' ts' tʃ' tɕ' k' q'/ <<t' c' ch' j' k' q'>>
/θ s ʃ ɕ x χ h/ <<th s sh x kh qh h>>
/l ɹ j ɰ/ <<l r y w>>
/n/<<n>>

/i i: ɯ ɯ:/ <<i i: u u:>>
/e e: ə ɤ ɤ:/ <<e e: a o o:>>
/ɑ ɑ:/<<aa aa:>>

I'm sorry, but you can't have non-unicode and non-digraph and non-mixed caps, there just isn't enough of the Latin alphabet for that.

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/p b t d k kʷ ɡ ɡʷ/ <<p b t d k kw g gw>>
/m n ŋ ŋʷ/ <<m n ng ngw>>
/β s ɣ h/ <<v s gh h>>
/l j/<<l y>>

/i e ʌ ɑ o u/ <<ee e a aa o oo>>

/gʷendune jekʌp kukumʌk, Jʌkutuŋkʌt. βɑndotde kɑhit tʌpʌ kopbumʌk. tʌko Jʌkutuŋu Mʌtʌn dupine teke nʌ kupilʌne nʌtʌ gʌmʌk kopbum. koŋu kupɑhɑŋgʌmʌnune kʌlɑβu tʌpʌtu kɑkum. nomgʌmʌn kɑke, tosu tʌpɑ ihiβʌn, kuhitnɑne mɑpɑ pukukut. tiβʌn kʌlɑβu ulʌpʌ kɑke, kʷɑlemu tulike, kɑsimɑ dʌkʌtu hoŋ tɑhɑkum. tikeŋu dʌkʌtu kʌjʌn, tikeŋu dʌkʌtu tulikum pʌjʌn, tikeŋu dʌkʌtu tulikumu, βɑsekŋʌ dʌkʌ ɑmumbɑ puluβʌnu, kʷɑlem gutoŋu ɑjɑji puke, ɑmuhɑɣʌtɑn mumbɑ kukin. tiβʌn jiβʌɣɑβɑ Jʌkutuŋu ɑɣopbut. tiβʌnu unetʌ hipdu Mɑkdʌkʌne kopbumʌk. kokeŋu kʌlɑpde jʌβʌ tʌkopdɑ mɑliβʌnu, hipdu unetʌ tʌtɑ tʌkʷʌmbʌn, jolune epbumʌk. uniŋgʌn./


<<gwendoone yekap kookoomak, Yakootoongkat. Vaandotde kaahit tapa kopboomak. tako Yakootoongoo Matan doopeene teke na koopeelane nata gamak kopboom. kongoo koopaahaanggamanoone kalaavu tapatoo kaakoom. nomgaman kaake, tosoo tapaa eeheevan, kooheetnaane maapaa pookookoot. teevan kalaavoo oolapa kaake, kwaalemoo tooleeke, kaaseemaa dakatoo hong taahaakoom. teekengoo dakatoo kayan, teekengoo dakatoo tooleekoom payan, teekengoo dakatoo tooleekoomoo, vaaseknga daka aamoombaa pooloovanoo, kwaalem gootongoo aayaayee pooke, aamoohaaghataan moombaa kookeen. teevan yeevaghaavaa Yakootoongoo aaghopboot. tivanoo ooneta heepdoo Maakdakane kopboomak. kokengoo kalaapde yava takopdaa maaleevanoo, heepdoo ooneta tataa takwamban, yoloone epboomak. ooneenggan.>>

[KathTheDragon]

I'm sorry, but you can't have non-unicode and non-digraph and non-mixed caps, there just isn't enough of the Latin alphabet for that.

I'm well aware, but I never asked for that. I asked for two romanisations, one that was non-digraph, and a completely separate different one that was ASCII-safe (cos I intend to use this somewhere where I can only type ASCII).

[Frislander]

I'm sorry, but you can't have non-unicode and non-digraph and non-mixed caps, there just isn't enough of the Latin alphabet for that.

I'm well aware, but I never asked for that. I asked for two romanisations, one that was non-digraph, and a completely separate different one that was ASCII-safe (cos I intend to use this somewhere where I can only type ASCII).

Oh, sorry.

[KathTheDragon]

It's fine, there's all those people goofing around so it's understandable that you'd think what they were giving was what I asked for.

[Travis B.]

I thought they were under the impression that you wanted something that was A) no digraphs and B) ASCII and were mocking that idea.

[KathTheDragon]

Ok, I'll rephrase - Basic Latin, not ASCII. Also, why are you (pl) trying to make it without digraphs? That's meant to be an entirely different romanisation, which I now have.

Because it's fun.

[Frislander]

Well here's my no-digraph version then:

/t ts tʃ tɕ k q ʔ/ «t c č ć k q '»
/t' ts' tʃ' tɕ' k' q'/ «t' c' č' ć' k' q'»
/θ s ʃ ɕ x χ h/ «þ s š ś x χ h»
/l ɹ j ɰ/ «l r y w»
/n/ «n»

/i i: ɯ ɯ:/ «i í u ú»
/e e: ə ɤ ɤ:/ «e é ə o ó»
/ɑ ɑ:/ «a á»

EDIT: good, now I've got a much better letter for the uvular.

[KathTheDragon]

Lol, that's almost exactly what I did, except I used underdots for the ejectives and <h ḫ ḥ> for /x χ h/ cos I dislike <x>