Tuvan, as Turkish, sort of:
/pʰ p tʰ t kʰ k/ p b t d k g
/m n ŋ/ m n ŋ
/ɾ/ r
/ʧ/ c
/s z ʃ ʒ x/ s z ş j h
/ʋ l j/ v l y
/i y ɯ u e ø o a/ i ü ı u e ö o a
/iː yː ɯː uː eː øː oː aː/ ii üü ıı uu ee öö oo aa
/ì ỳ ɯ̀ ù è ø̀ ò à/ i' ü' ı' u' e' ö' o' a'
/ol yete pyky ʧeɾniŋ kʰɯɾɯnka ʧaŋkɯs tɯl, oːŋ ʧaŋkɯs хeʋiɾi tʰuɾkan. ʧøːn ʧykʰ uklaj kʰøʃkʰeʃ, kʰiʒileɾ sennaːɾ tepʰ ʧeɾte oɾkulaːʃ tʰɯpʰ alkaʃ, aŋaː tʰuɾumʧupʰ alkannaɾ. olaɾ «tojtan tʰuːjpulaɾnɯ kʰɯlkaʃ, otʰka øɾtʰtetipʰ alɯːlɯŋaɾ» – tepʰ symeleʃkʰenneɾ. taʃ oɾnunka tʰuːjpulaɾnɯ, olaɾnɯ pɯʒɯkʰtɯɾ tʰutuʃtʰuɾaɾɯnka malkaʃtʰɯ aʒɯklaːnnaɾ. «xoːɾajtan tʰutupʰ alɯːlɯŋaɾ, petiː teːɾke ʧetipʰ tʰuɾaɾ suːɾkatan paza. ʧɯɾɯkʰ ʧeɾke is ʧokʰ tʰaɾaj peɾpezi-pile, pis atɯʋɯstʰɯ ɯnʧaːɾ altaɾʒɯtɯpʰ aːɾ pis» – teːnneɾ. kʰiʒileɾniŋ tʰutupʰ tʰuɾaɾ хoːɾajɯn paza suːɾkazɯn kʰøːɾ teːʃ, teːɾki-ʧajakʰʧɯ ʧeɾʒe tyʒypʰ kʰelken./
Ol üede bügü cerniŋ kırınga caŋgıs dıl, ooŋ caŋgıs heviri turkan. Cöön cük uglay köşkeş, kijiler sennaar dep cerde orgulaaş tıp algaş, aŋaa turumcup algannar. Olar «doydan tuuybularnı kılgaş, otga örtdedip alıılıŋar» – dep sümeleşkenner. Taş ornunga tuuybularnı, olarnı bıjıkdır tuduşturarınga malgaştı ajıglaannar. «Hooraydan tudup alıılıŋar, bedii deerge cedip turar suurgadan baza. Cırık cerge is cok taray berbezi-bile, bis adıvıstı ıncaar aldarjıdıp aar bis» – deenner. Kijilerniŋ tudup turar hoorayın baza suurgazın köör deeş, deergi-cayakcı cerje düjüp kelgen.
Romanization challenge thread
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Re: Romanization challenge thread
[ʈʂʰɤŋtɕjɑŋ], or whatever you can comfortably pronounce that's close to that
Formerly known as Primordial Soup
Supporter of use of [ȶ ȡ ȵ ȴ] in transcription
It is pitch black. You are likely to be eaten by a 青.
Formerly known as Primordial Soup
Supporter of use of [ȶ ȡ ȵ ȴ] in transcription
It is pitch black. You are likely to be eaten by a 青.
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Re: Romanization challenge thread
Ndasti, one of the ancient languages of my old conworld:
/m (n)/
/p~b t~d tʃ~dʒ k~ɡ/
/ᵐb ⁿd ⁿdʒ ᵑɡ/
/ts(ʰ)/
/pʰ tʰ tʃʰ kʰ/
/ᵐpʰ ⁿtʰ ⁿtʃʰ ᵑkʰ/
/s h/
/w l r/
/i a u/
/iː aː uː/
/ei~eː ou~oː/
The /tʃ/ series was likely a /ȶ/ stop series early on and became affricates in later Ndasti. The unaspirated, un-prenasalized stops are voiced if the segments on either side are both inherently voiced (sonorants or prenasalized unaspirated stops), but otherwise are voiceless. [n] is an allophone of /l/ found where the following consonant (even across a vowel) is /m/ or prenasalized, thus /laːᵐbu/ > [naːᵐbu]. /ts/'s aspiration status is uncertain. Syllables are (C)(A)V(C), where A = one of /w l r/.
/m (n)/
/p~b t~d tʃ~dʒ k~ɡ/
/ᵐb ⁿd ⁿdʒ ᵑɡ/
/ts(ʰ)/
/pʰ tʰ tʃʰ kʰ/
/ᵐpʰ ⁿtʰ ⁿtʃʰ ᵑkʰ/
/s h/
/w l r/
/i a u/
/iː aː uː/
/ei~eː ou~oː/
The /tʃ/ series was likely a /ȶ/ stop series early on and became affricates in later Ndasti. The unaspirated, un-prenasalized stops are voiced if the segments on either side are both inherently voiced (sonorants or prenasalized unaspirated stops), but otherwise are voiceless. [n] is an allophone of /l/ found where the following consonant (even across a vowel) is /m/ or prenasalized, thus /laːᵐbu/ > [naːᵐbu]. /ts/'s aspiration status is uncertain. Syllables are (C)(A)V(C), where A = one of /w l r/.
[ʈʂʰɤŋtɕjɑŋ], or whatever you can comfortably pronounce that's close to that
Formerly known as Primordial Soup
Supporter of use of [ȶ ȡ ȵ ȴ] in transcription
It is pitch black. You are likely to be eaten by a 青.
Formerly known as Primordial Soup
Supporter of use of [ȶ ȡ ȵ ȴ] in transcription
It is pitch black. You are likely to be eaten by a 青.
Re: Romanization challenge thread
You know what, how about a Cyrillization instead?
/m (n)/ <м л>
/p~b t~d tʃ~dʒ k~ɡ/ <б д ж г>
/ᵐb ⁿd ⁿdʒ ᵑɡ/ <мб нд нж нг>
/ts(ʰ)/ <ц>
/pʰ tʰ tʃʰ kʰ/ <п т ч к>
/ᵐpʰ ⁿtʰ ⁿtʃʰ ᵑkʰ/ <мп нт нч нк>
/s h/ <с х>
/w l r/ <в л р>
/i a u/ <и а у>
/iː aː uː/ <ии аа уу>
/ei~eː ou~oː/ <е о>
Opopik - That looks horrifically ugly and more or less unusable. If that was intentional, then I bow before your romanization skills.
/m (n)/ <м л>
/p~b t~d tʃ~dʒ k~ɡ/ <б д ж г>
/ᵐb ⁿd ⁿdʒ ᵑɡ/ <мб нд нж нг>
/ts(ʰ)/ <ц>
/pʰ tʰ tʃʰ kʰ/ <п т ч к>
/ᵐpʰ ⁿtʰ ⁿtʃʰ ᵑkʰ/ <мп нт нч нк>
/s h/ <с х>
/w l r/ <в л р>
/i a u/ <и а у>
/iː aː uː/ <ии аа уу>
/ei~eː ou~oː/ <е о>
Opopik - That looks horrifically ugly and more or less unusable. If that was intentional, then I bow before your romanization skills.
Re: Romanization challenge thread
Consonants:
/pʰ~pʰx p~px pʰʲ~pʰʲj pʲ~pʲj tʰ~tʰx t~tx tʰʲ~tʰʲj tʲ~tʲj kʰ~kʰx k~kx kʰʲ~kʰʲj c͡ç~c ʔ/
<п б пь бь т д ть дь к г кь гь ʔ>
/m~m͡w mʲ~mʲj n~n͡x nʲ~nʲj~ɲ ŋ/ <м мь н нь ӈ>
/ɾ~ɾ͡x/ <р>
/t͡sʰː~t͡sʰːx t͡s~t͡sx t͡sʰʲː~t͡sʰʲːj t͡sʲ~t͡sʲj t͡ʂ̺ʰː t͡ʂ̺ t͡ɕ̻ʰː t͡ɕ̻/ <цц ц цць ць чч ч ччь чь>
/f~fx fʲ s~sx sʲ~sʲj ʂ̺ ɕ̻ x~xw xʲ~xʲj/ <ф фь с сь ш шь х~хв хь>
/ɹ~ɹj~ʒ~z~ə j ɰᵝ/ <з~ й в>
/lʲ~lʲj~ʎ ɫ~ɫ͡x/ <ль л>
Vowels:
/ɪ u e ə o ɐ/ <и у э ы о а>
/i: u: e: ə: o: ä:/ <ӣ ӯ э̄ ы̄ о̄ а̄>
/ɪ̃ ĩ: ũ ũ: ɛ̃ ɛ̃: ə̃˩ ə̃:˩ ɔ̃ ɔ̃: ɐ̃ ä̃:/ <иᵸ ӣᵸ уᵸ ӯᵸ эᵸ э̄ᵸ ыъᵸ ы̄ъᵸ оᵸ о̄ᵸ аᵸ а̄ᵸ>
/ɪ˩ u˩ e˩ ə˩ o˩ ɐ˩/ <иъ уъ эъ ыъ оъ аъ>
/i:˩ u:˩ e:˩ ə:˩ o:˩ ä:˩/ <ӣъ ӯъ э̄ъ ы̄ъ о̄ъ а̄ъ>
/ɪ̃˩ ĩ:˩ ũ˩ ũ˩: ɛ̃˩ ɛ̃˩: ɔ̃˩ ɔ̃˩: ɐ̃˩ ä̃˩:/ <иъᵸ ӣъᵸ уъᵸ ӯъᵸ эъᵸ э̄ъᵸ оъᵸ о̄ъᵸ аъᵸ а̄ъᵸ>
After <ь>, <у э о а> are spelled <ю е ё я>
[i:ɫos mʲi:rɪkɕ̻ i:ʂ̺ ji:rmɐ̃ e:ɫ͡xeus:ːũ i:nʲjə̃:˩ ɛ̃: nʲi:s͡xe˩ɹə:j xʲi:ʂ̺]
Ӣлос мьӣрикшь ӣш йӣрмаᵸ э̄лэуссуᵸ ӣньы̄ъᵸ э̄ᵸ ньӣсэъзы̄й хьӣс.
or:
Ӣлос мьӣрикшь ӣш йӣрмаӊ э̄лэуссуӊ ӣньы̄ъӊ э̄ӊ ньӣсэъзы̄й хьӣс.
Ӣлос мьӣрикшь ӣш йӣрмаң э̄лэуссуң ӣньы̄ъң э̄ң ньӣсэъзы̄й хьӣс.
Ӣлос мьӣрикшь ӣш йӣрма̃ э̄лэуссу̃ ӣньы̄̃ъ э̄̃ ньӣсэъзы̄й хьӣс.
/pʰ~pʰx p~px pʰʲ~pʰʲj pʲ~pʲj tʰ~tʰx t~tx tʰʲ~tʰʲj tʲ~tʲj kʰ~kʰx k~kx kʰʲ~kʰʲj c͡ç~c ʔ/
<п б пь бь т д ть дь к г кь гь ʔ>
/m~m͡w mʲ~mʲj n~n͡x nʲ~nʲj~ɲ ŋ/ <м мь н нь ӈ>
/ɾ~ɾ͡x/ <р>
/t͡sʰː~t͡sʰːx t͡s~t͡sx t͡sʰʲː~t͡sʰʲːj t͡sʲ~t͡sʲj t͡ʂ̺ʰː t͡ʂ̺ t͡ɕ̻ʰː t͡ɕ̻/ <цц ц цць ць чч ч ччь чь>
/f~fx fʲ s~sx sʲ~sʲj ʂ̺ ɕ̻ x~xw xʲ~xʲj/ <ф фь с сь ш шь х~хв хь>
/ɹ~ɹj~ʒ~z~ə j ɰᵝ/ <з~ й в>
/lʲ~lʲj~ʎ ɫ~ɫ͡x/ <ль л>
Vowels:
/ɪ u e ə o ɐ/ <и у э ы о а>
/i: u: e: ə: o: ä:/ <ӣ ӯ э̄ ы̄ о̄ а̄>
/ɪ̃ ĩ: ũ ũ: ɛ̃ ɛ̃: ə̃˩ ə̃:˩ ɔ̃ ɔ̃: ɐ̃ ä̃:/ <иᵸ ӣᵸ уᵸ ӯᵸ эᵸ э̄ᵸ ыъᵸ ы̄ъᵸ оᵸ о̄ᵸ аᵸ а̄ᵸ>
/ɪ˩ u˩ e˩ ə˩ o˩ ɐ˩/ <иъ уъ эъ ыъ оъ аъ>
/i:˩ u:˩ e:˩ ə:˩ o:˩ ä:˩/ <ӣъ ӯъ э̄ъ ы̄ъ о̄ъ а̄ъ>
/ɪ̃˩ ĩ:˩ ũ˩ ũ˩: ɛ̃˩ ɛ̃˩: ɔ̃˩ ɔ̃˩: ɐ̃˩ ä̃˩:/ <иъᵸ ӣъᵸ уъᵸ ӯъᵸ эъᵸ э̄ъᵸ оъᵸ о̄ъᵸ аъᵸ а̄ъᵸ>
After <ь>, <у э о а> are spelled <ю е ё я>
[i:ɫos mʲi:rɪkɕ̻ i:ʂ̺ ji:rmɐ̃ e:ɫ͡xeus:ːũ i:nʲjə̃:˩ ɛ̃: nʲi:s͡xe˩ɹə:j xʲi:ʂ̺]
Ӣлос мьӣрикшь ӣш йӣрмаᵸ э̄лэуссуᵸ ӣньы̄ъᵸ э̄ᵸ ньӣсэъзы̄й хьӣс.
or:
Ӣлос мьӣрикшь ӣш йӣрмаӊ э̄лэуссуӊ ӣньы̄ъӊ э̄ӊ ньӣсэъзы̄й хьӣс.
Ӣлос мьӣрикшь ӣш йӣрмаң э̄лэуссуң ӣньы̄ъң э̄ң ньӣсэъзы̄й хьӣс.
Ӣлос мьӣрикшь ӣш йӣрма̃ э̄лэуссу̃ ӣньы̄̃ъ э̄̃ ньӣсэъзы̄й хьӣс.
Re: Romanization challenge thread
A conlang that I may or may not actually do anything with. Bonus points if you recognize which language this is totally not a clone of
/p t t͡s t͡ʃ t͡ʃʷ kʲ k͡ʟ̥ kʷ k͡ʟ̥ʷ q qʷ/
/b d gʲ gʷ ɢ ɢʷ/
/s ʃ ʟ̥ ʟ̥ʷ χ χʷ h/
/z ʒ ʒʷ ʁ ʁʷ/
/m n ŋ r w j/
/i e a o u ə/ + length phonemic on all except /ə/
some gibberish:
/tʃʷa:ro saχʃini məkʟʷedis da bʁu:ŋən qʷət gʲʒʷenaj ɢiʟ̥tʃni χatsma pakʲun wi/
/p t t͡s t͡ʃ t͡ʃʷ kʲ k͡ʟ̥ kʷ k͡ʟ̥ʷ q qʷ/
/b d gʲ gʷ ɢ ɢʷ/
/s ʃ ʟ̥ ʟ̥ʷ χ χʷ h/
/z ʒ ʒʷ ʁ ʁʷ/
/m n ŋ r w j/
/i e a o u ə/ + length phonemic on all except /ə/
some gibberish:
/tʃʷa:ro saχʃini məkʟʷedis da bʁu:ŋən qʷət gʲʒʷenaj ɢiʟ̥tʃni χatsma pakʲun wi/
Re: Romanization challenge thread
/p t t͡s t͡ʃ t͡ʃʷ kʲ k͡ʟ̥ kʷ k͡ʟ̥ʷ q qʷ/ <п т ц ч чв к кл кв клв къ къв>
/b d gʲ gʷ ɢ ɢʷ/ <б д г гв гъ гъв>
/s ʃ ʟ̥ ʟ̥ʷ χ χʷ h/ <с ш лъ лъв х хв хъ>
/z ʒ ʒʷ ʁ ʁʷ/ <з ж ҳ ҳв>
/m n ŋ r w j/ <м н ң р в й>
/i e a o u ə/ <и э а о у ы>
+ length phonemic on all except /ə/ <VV>
some gibberish:
/tʃʷa:ro saχʃini məkʟʷedis da bʁu:ŋən qʷət gʲʒʷenaj ɢiʟ̥tʃni χatsma pakʲun wi/
Чвааро сахшини мыклвэдис да бҳуунэн къвэт гжвэнай гъилчни хацма пакун ви.
/b d gʲ gʷ ɢ ɢʷ/ <б д г гв гъ гъв>
/s ʃ ʟ̥ ʟ̥ʷ χ χʷ h/ <с ш лъ лъв х хв хъ>
/z ʒ ʒʷ ʁ ʁʷ/ <з ж ҳ ҳв>
/m n ŋ r w j/ <м н ң р в й>
/i e a o u ə/ <и э а о у ы>
+ length phonemic on all except /ə/ <VV>
some gibberish:
/tʃʷa:ro saχʃini məkʟʷedis da bʁu:ŋən qʷət gʲʒʷenaj ɢiʟ̥tʃni χatsma pakʲun wi/
Чвааро сахшини мыклвэдис да бҳуунэн къвэт гжвэнай гъилчни хацма пакун ви.
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Re: Romanization challenge thread
/p t t͡s t͡ʃ t͡ʃʷ kʲ k͡ʟ̥ kʷ k͡ʟ̥ʷ q qʷ/ <p t z zi qui ci cl qu clu c cu>
/b d gʲ gʷ ɢ ɢʷ/ <b d gi gu g cgu>
/s ʃ ʟ̥ ʟ̥ʷ χ χʷ h/ <s/ss si/is/x l lu ch quh h>
/z ʒ ʒʷ ʁ ʁʷ/ <sz/s j ju ll llu>
/m n ŋ r w j/ <m n nh r ou i/y>
/i e a o u ə/ <i e a o ou è>
some gibberish:
/tʃʷa:ro saχʃini məkʟʷedis da bʁu:ŋən qʷət gʲʒʷenaj ɢiʟ̥tʃni χatsma pakʲun wi/
quiáro sachsïni mècluedis da blloúnhèn cuèt gìjuenay gilcìni pacioun oui
/b d gʲ gʷ ɢ ɢʷ/ <b d gi gu g cgu>
/s ʃ ʟ̥ ʟ̥ʷ χ χʷ h/ <s/ss si/is/x l lu ch quh h>
/z ʒ ʒʷ ʁ ʁʷ/ <sz/s j ju ll llu>
/m n ŋ r w j/ <m n nh r ou i/y>
/i e a o u ə/ <i e a o ou è>
some gibberish:
/tʃʷa:ro saχʃini məkʟʷedis da bʁu:ŋən qʷət gʲʒʷenaj ɢiʟ̥tʃni χatsma pakʲun wi/
quiáro sachsïni mècluedis da blloúnhèn cuèt gìjuenay gilcìni pacioun oui
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Re: Romanization challenge thread
/p t t͡s t͡ʃ t͡ʃʷ kʲ k͡ʟ̥ kʷ k͡ʟ̥ʷ q qʷ/ <p t c č čw k kl kw klw q qw>
/b d gʲ gʷ ɢ ɢʷ/ <b d g gw gh ghw>
/s ʃ ʟ̥ ʟ̥ʷ χ χʷ h/ <s š l lw x xw h>
/z ʒ ʒʷ ʁ ʁʷ/ <z ž žw r rw>
/m n ŋ r w j/ <m n ng rr w y>
/i e a o u ə/ + length phonemic on all except /ə/ <i ii e ee a aa o oo u uu ä>
some gibberish:
/tʃʷa:ro saχʃini məkʟʷedis da bʁu:ŋən qʷət gʲʒʷenaj ɢiʟ̥tʃni χatsma pakʲun wi/
<čwaarro saxšini mäklwedis da bruungän qwät gžwenay ghilčni xacma pakun wi>
/b d gʲ gʷ ɢ ɢʷ/ <b d g gw gh ghw>
/s ʃ ʟ̥ ʟ̥ʷ χ χʷ h/ <s š l lw x xw h>
/z ʒ ʒʷ ʁ ʁʷ/ <z ž žw r rw>
/m n ŋ r w j/ <m n ng rr w y>
/i e a o u ə/ + length phonemic on all except /ə/ <i ii e ee a aa o oo u uu ä>
some gibberish:
/tʃʷa:ro saχʃini məkʟʷedis da bʁu:ŋən qʷət gʲʒʷenaj ɢiʟ̥tʃni χatsma pakʲun wi/
<čwaarro saxšini mäklwedis da bruungän qwät gžwenay ghilčni xacma pakun wi>
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Re: Romanization challenge thread
Miar
Things that can't be syllabic:
/pʰ tʰ tʷʰ cʰ kʰ kʷʰ/
/p t tʷ c k kʷ/
/ʔb ʔd ʔdʷ ʔɟ ʔg ʔgʷ/
/ⁿb ⁿd ⁿdʷ ⁿɟ ⁿg ⁿgʷ/
/s sʷ x xʷ/
/ⁿz ⁿzʷ/
Things that can be syllabic:
/l lʷ r rʷ j w/
/m n nʷ ŋ ŋʷ/
/ħ ħʷ ʕ ʕʷ ̃ʕ ̃ʕʷ/
/ʔ h/
Things that can only be syllabic:
/a ə/
Moraic high/low pitch accent, one high accent per word. Plain-voiced plosives arise allophonically from a variety of rules.
Example sentences:
/jə́ⁿbⁿɟw̩ sáa wləə́ʕakʷ hn̩sʕ̩pʰr̩mⁿdə ʔbə́rⁿds ħʷə́jəŋs j̩cʔbákʷəs məns/
[jə́ⁿbɟu sáa uləə́ʕok hɨ̆nsɨ̆ʕpʰɨrmɨ̆ndə ʔbə́rɨ̆nts iʔɟɨ̆bókʷus məns]
Things that can't be syllabic:
/pʰ tʰ tʷʰ cʰ kʰ kʷʰ/
/p t tʷ c k kʷ/
/ʔb ʔd ʔdʷ ʔɟ ʔg ʔgʷ/
/ⁿb ⁿd ⁿdʷ ⁿɟ ⁿg ⁿgʷ/
/s sʷ x xʷ/
/ⁿz ⁿzʷ/
Things that can be syllabic:
/l lʷ r rʷ j w/
/m n nʷ ŋ ŋʷ/
/ħ ħʷ ʕ ʕʷ ̃ʕ ̃ʕʷ/
/ʔ h/
Things that can only be syllabic:
/a ə/
Moraic high/low pitch accent, one high accent per word. Plain-voiced plosives arise allophonically from a variety of rules.
Example sentences:
/jə́ⁿbⁿɟw̩ sáa wləə́ʕakʷ hn̩sʕ̩pʰr̩mⁿdə ʔbə́rⁿds ħʷə́jəŋs j̩cʔbákʷəs məns/
[jə́ⁿbɟu sáa uləə́ʕok hɨ̆nsɨ̆ʕpʰɨrmɨ̆ndə ʔbə́rɨ̆nts iʔɟɨ̆bókʷus məns]
Siöö jandeng raiglin zåbei tandiüłåd;
nää džunnfin kukuch vklaivei sivei tåd.
Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei.
nää džunnfin kukuch vklaivei sivei tåd.
Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei.
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Re: Romanization challenge thread
/pʰ tʰ tʷʰ cʰ kʰ kʷʰ/ <ph th th(w) ch kh kh(w)>
/p t tʷ c k kʷ/ <p t t(w) c k k(w)>
/ʔb ʔd ʔdʷ ʔɟ ʔg ʔgʷ/ <ḅ ḍ ḍ(w) j̣ g̣ g̣(w)>
/ⁿb ⁿd ⁿdʷ ⁿɟ ⁿg ⁿgʷ/ <b d d(w) j g g(w)>
/s sʷ x xʷ/ <s s(w) x x(w)>
/ⁿz ⁿzʷ/ <z z(w)>
Things that can be syllabic:
/l lʷ r rʷ j w/ <l l(w) r r(w) y w>
/m n nʷ ŋ ŋʷ/ <m n n(w) ŋ ŋ(w)>
/ħ ħʷ ʕ ʕʷ ̃ʕ ̃ʕʷ/ <ħ ħ(w) ʕ ʕ(w) ṃ ṃ(w)>
/ʔ h/ <ʔ h>
Things that can only be syllabic:
/a ə/ <a e>
The epenthetic vowel is written <ə>. Phonetic [e] is written <ẹ>.
Moraic high/low pitch accent, one high accent per word. Plain-voiced plosives arise allophonically from a variety of rules. Plain-voiced stops are written with crossbars. When stress falls on the epenthetic vowel, the following consonant takes the acute.
Example sentences:
/jə́ⁿbⁿɟw̩ sáa wləə́ʕakʷ hn̩sʕ̩pʰr̩mⁿdə ʔbə́rⁿds ħʷə́jəŋs j̩cʔbákʷəs məns/
[jə́ⁿbɟu sáa uləə́ʕok hɨ̆ntsɨ̆ʕpʰɨrmɨ̆ndə ʔbə́rɨ̆nts iʔɟɨ̆bókʷus məns]
Yébɉu sáa uleéʕok hənsəʕphəŕmənde ḅerənts ħẹ́ẹŋs ij̣əƀókus mens.
/p t tʷ c k kʷ/ <p t t(w) c k k(w)>
/ʔb ʔd ʔdʷ ʔɟ ʔg ʔgʷ/ <ḅ ḍ ḍ(w) j̣ g̣ g̣(w)>
/ⁿb ⁿd ⁿdʷ ⁿɟ ⁿg ⁿgʷ/ <b d d(w) j g g(w)>
/s sʷ x xʷ/ <s s(w) x x(w)>
/ⁿz ⁿzʷ/ <z z(w)>
Things that can be syllabic:
/l lʷ r rʷ j w/ <l l(w) r r(w) y w>
/m n nʷ ŋ ŋʷ/ <m n n(w) ŋ ŋ(w)>
/ħ ħʷ ʕ ʕʷ ̃ʕ ̃ʕʷ/ <ħ ħ(w) ʕ ʕ(w) ṃ ṃ(w)>
/ʔ h/ <ʔ h>
Things that can only be syllabic:
/a ə/ <a e>
The epenthetic vowel is written <ə>. Phonetic [e] is written <ẹ>.
Moraic high/low pitch accent, one high accent per word. Plain-voiced plosives arise allophonically from a variety of rules. Plain-voiced stops are written with crossbars. When stress falls on the epenthetic vowel, the following consonant takes the acute.
Example sentences:
/jə́ⁿbⁿɟw̩ sáa wləə́ʕakʷ hn̩sʕ̩pʰr̩mⁿdə ʔbə́rⁿds ħʷə́jəŋs j̩cʔbákʷəs məns/
[jə́ⁿbɟu sáa uləə́ʕok hɨ̆ntsɨ̆ʕpʰɨrmɨ̆ndə ʔbə́rɨ̆nts iʔɟɨ̆bókʷus məns]
Yébɉu sáa uleéʕok hənsəʕphəŕmənde ḅerənts ħẹ́ẹŋs ij̣əƀókus mens.
Siöö jandeng raiglin zåbei tandiüłåd;
nää džunnfin kukuch vklaivei sivei tåd.
Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei.
nää džunnfin kukuch vklaivei sivei tåd.
Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei.
Re: Romanization challenge thread
Not Miar:
Things that can't be syllabic:
/pʰ tʰ tʷʰ cʰ kʰ kʷʰ/ <ph th th° th´ kh kh°>
/p t tʷ c k kʷ/ <p t t° k´ k k°>
/ʔb ʔd ʔdʷ ʔɟ ʔg ʔgʷ/ <'b 'd 'd° 'c´ 'c 'c°>
/ⁿb ⁿd ⁿdʷ ⁿɟ ⁿg ⁿgʷ/ <mb nd nd° q´ q q°>
/s sʷ x xʷ/ <s s° h h°>
/ⁿz ⁿzʷ/ <ns ns°>
Things that can be syllabic:
/l lʷ r rʷ j w/ <l l° r r° i u>
/m n nʷ ŋ ŋʷ/ <m n n° g>
/ħ ħʷ ʕ ʕʷ ̃ʕ ̃ʕʷ/ <x x° xh xh° gh gh°>
/ʔ h/ <' 'h>
Things that can only be syllabic:
/a ə/ <a e>
Moraic high/low pitch accent, one high accent per word. <a:>
Plain-voiced plosives arise allophonically from a variety of rules.
Example sentences:
/jə́ⁿbⁿɟw̩ sáa wləə́ʕakʷ hn̩sʕ̩pʰr̩mⁿdə ʔbə́rⁿds ħʷə́jəŋs j̩cʔbákʷəs məns/
[jə́ⁿbɟu sáa uləə́ʕok hɨ̆nsɨ̆ʕpʰɨrmɨ̆ndə ʔbə́rɨ̆nts iʔɟɨ̆bókʷus məns]
Ie:mbq´u sa:a ulee:xhak° hnsxhphrmnde 'be:rnds xwe:iegs it´'ba:k°es mens.
or something serious:
Things that can't be syllabic:
/pʰ tʰ tʷʰ cʰ kʰ kʷʰ/ <ph th t̃h ch kh k̃h>
/p t tʷ c k kʷ/ <p t t̃ c k k̃>
/ʔb ʔd ʔdʷ ʔɟ ʔg ʔgʷ/ <ḅ ḍ ḍ̃ ɉ ġ ġ̃>
/ⁿb ⁿd ⁿdʷ ⁿɟ ⁿg ⁿgʷ/ <mb nd nd̃ nɉ ng ng̃>
/s sʷ x xʷ/ <s s̃ x x̃>
/ⁿz ⁿzʷ/ <nz nz̃>
Things that can be syllabic <èa> :
/l lʷ r rʷ j w/ <l ɫ r r̃ y~i w~u>
/m n nʷ ŋ ŋʷ/ <m n ñ ŋ ŋ̃>
/ħ ħʷ ʕ ʕʷ ̃ʕ ̃ʕʷ/ <h h̃ ʕ ʕ̃ ṅ ṅ̃>
/ʔ h/ <ʔ ḣ>
Things that can only be syllabic:
/a ə/ <a e>
[i e ɨ ɨ̆ o u] <i æ ə ə o u>, labialization not written on the consonant that caused the allophony
Moraic high/low pitch accent <á> , one high accent per word. Plain-voiced plosives arise allophonically from a variety of rules.
Example sentences:
/jə́ⁿbⁿɟw̩ sáa wləə́ʕakʷ hn̩sʕ̩pʰr̩mⁿdə ʔbə́rⁿds ħʷə́jəŋs j̩cʔbákʷəs məns/
[jə́ⁿbɟu sáa uləə́ʕok hɨ̆nsɨ̆ʕpʰɨrmɨ̆ndə ʔbə́rɨ̆nts iʔɟɨ̆bókʷus məns]
Yémbɉu sáa uléeʕok ḣənsəʕpərmənde ḅérənds h̃ǽæŋs? icəḅók̃us mens.
Things that can't be syllabic:
/pʰ tʰ tʷʰ cʰ kʰ kʷʰ/ <ph th th° th´ kh kh°>
/p t tʷ c k kʷ/ <p t t° k´ k k°>
/ʔb ʔd ʔdʷ ʔɟ ʔg ʔgʷ/ <'b 'd 'd° 'c´ 'c 'c°>
/ⁿb ⁿd ⁿdʷ ⁿɟ ⁿg ⁿgʷ/ <mb nd nd° q´ q q°>
/s sʷ x xʷ/ <s s° h h°>
/ⁿz ⁿzʷ/ <ns ns°>
Things that can be syllabic:
/l lʷ r rʷ j w/ <l l° r r° i u>
/m n nʷ ŋ ŋʷ/ <m n n° g>
/ħ ħʷ ʕ ʕʷ ̃ʕ ̃ʕʷ/ <x x° xh xh° gh gh°>
/ʔ h/ <' 'h>
Things that can only be syllabic:
/a ə/ <a e>
Moraic high/low pitch accent, one high accent per word. <a:>
Plain-voiced plosives arise allophonically from a variety of rules.
Example sentences:
/jə́ⁿbⁿɟw̩ sáa wləə́ʕakʷ hn̩sʕ̩pʰr̩mⁿdə ʔbə́rⁿds ħʷə́jəŋs j̩cʔbákʷəs məns/
[jə́ⁿbɟu sáa uləə́ʕok hɨ̆nsɨ̆ʕpʰɨrmɨ̆ndə ʔbə́rɨ̆nts iʔɟɨ̆bókʷus məns]
Ie:mbq´u sa:a ulee:xhak° hnsxhphrmnde 'be:rnds xwe:iegs it´'ba:k°es mens.
or something serious:
Things that can't be syllabic:
/pʰ tʰ tʷʰ cʰ kʰ kʷʰ/ <ph th t̃h ch kh k̃h>
/p t tʷ c k kʷ/ <p t t̃ c k k̃>
/ʔb ʔd ʔdʷ ʔɟ ʔg ʔgʷ/ <ḅ ḍ ḍ̃ ɉ ġ ġ̃>
/ⁿb ⁿd ⁿdʷ ⁿɟ ⁿg ⁿgʷ/ <mb nd nd̃ nɉ ng ng̃>
/s sʷ x xʷ/ <s s̃ x x̃>
/ⁿz ⁿzʷ/ <nz nz̃>
Things that can be syllabic <èa> :
/l lʷ r rʷ j w/ <l ɫ r r̃ y~i w~u>
/m n nʷ ŋ ŋʷ/ <m n ñ ŋ ŋ̃>
/ħ ħʷ ʕ ʕʷ ̃ʕ ̃ʕʷ/ <h h̃ ʕ ʕ̃ ṅ ṅ̃>
/ʔ h/ <ʔ ḣ>
Things that can only be syllabic:
/a ə/ <a e>
[i e ɨ ɨ̆ o u] <i æ ə ə o u>, labialization not written on the consonant that caused the allophony
Moraic high/low pitch accent <á> , one high accent per word. Plain-voiced plosives arise allophonically from a variety of rules.
Example sentences:
/jə́ⁿbⁿɟw̩ sáa wləə́ʕakʷ hn̩sʕ̩pʰr̩mⁿdə ʔbə́rⁿds ħʷə́jəŋs j̩cʔbákʷəs məns/
[jə́ⁿbɟu sáa uləə́ʕok hɨ̆nsɨ̆ʕpʰɨrmɨ̆ndə ʔbə́rɨ̆nts iʔɟɨ̆bókʷus məns]
Yémbɉu sáa uléeʕok ḣənsəʕpərmənde ḅérənds h̃ǽæŋs? icəḅók̃us mens.
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Re: Romanization challenge thread
/pʰ tʰ tʷʰ cʰ kʰ kʷʰ/ <ph th th ich ch uch>
/p t tʷ c k kʷ/ <p t t c c c>
/ʔb ʔd ʔdʷ ʔɟ ʔg ʔgʷ/ <bp dt udt igc gc gc>
/ⁿb ⁿd ⁿdʷ ⁿɟ ⁿg ⁿgʷ/ <mb nd nd ng ng ng>
/s sʷ x xʷ/ <s s th th>
/ⁿz ⁿzʷ/ <z z>
Things that can be syllabic: (<o->)
/l lʷ r rʷ j w/ <l ul r ur idh udh>
/m n nʷ ŋ ŋʷ/ <m n un nn unn>
/ħ ħʷ ʕ ʕʷ ̃ʕ ̃ʕʷ/ <gh ugh bh ubh mh umh>
/ʔ h/ <fh sh>
Things that can only be syllabic:
/a ə/ <a e/o>
Moraic high/low pitch accent, one high accent per word. <ath>
Example sentences:
/jə́ⁿbⁿɟw̩ sáa wləə́ʕakʷ hn̩sʕ̩pʰr̩mⁿdə ʔbə́rⁿds ħʷə́jəŋs j̩cʔbákʷəs məns/
[jə́ⁿbɟu sáa uləə́ʕok hɨ̆nsɨ̆ʕpʰɨrmɨ̆ndə ʔbə́rɨ̆nts iʔɟɨ̆bókʷus məns]
Dhiembgiudh satha hudhlehethbhauc shonsobhphormnde bpethronds ghuethidhenns híngbauces mens.
/p t tʷ c k kʷ/ <p t t c c c>
/ʔb ʔd ʔdʷ ʔɟ ʔg ʔgʷ/ <bp dt udt igc gc gc>
/ⁿb ⁿd ⁿdʷ ⁿɟ ⁿg ⁿgʷ/ <mb nd nd ng ng ng>
/s sʷ x xʷ/ <s s th th>
/ⁿz ⁿzʷ/ <z z>
Things that can be syllabic: (<o->)
/l lʷ r rʷ j w/ <l ul r ur idh udh>
/m n nʷ ŋ ŋʷ/ <m n un nn unn>
/ħ ħʷ ʕ ʕʷ ̃ʕ ̃ʕʷ/ <gh ugh bh ubh mh umh>
/ʔ h/ <fh sh>
Things that can only be syllabic:
/a ə/ <a e/o>
Moraic high/low pitch accent, one high accent per word. <ath>
Example sentences:
/jə́ⁿbⁿɟw̩ sáa wləə́ʕakʷ hn̩sʕ̩pʰr̩mⁿdə ʔbə́rⁿds ħʷə́jəŋs j̩cʔbákʷəs məns/
[jə́ⁿbɟu sáa uləə́ʕok hɨ̆nsɨ̆ʕpʰɨrmɨ̆ndə ʔbə́rɨ̆nts iʔɟɨ̆bókʷus məns]
Dhiembgiudh satha hudhlehethbhauc shonsobhphormnde bpethronds ghuethidhenns híngbauces mens.
Siöö jandeng raiglin zåbei tandiüłåd;
nää džunnfin kukuch vklaivei sivei tåd.
Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei.
nää džunnfin kukuch vklaivei sivei tåd.
Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei.
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Re: Romanization challenge thread
Miar
Things that can't be syllabic:
/pʰ tʰ tʷʰ cʰ kʰ kʷʰ/ <p t t(w) c k k(w)>
/p t tʷ c k kʷ/ <b d d(w) j g g(w)>
/ʔb ʔd ʔdʷ ʔɟ ʔg ʔgʷ/ <ƀ đ đ(w) x q q(w)>
/ⁿb ⁿd ⁿdʷ ⁿɟ ⁿg ⁿgʷ/ <mb nd nd(w) nj nq nq(w)>
/s sʷ x xʷ/ <s s(w) kh kh(w)>
/ⁿz ⁿzʷ/ <z z(w)>
Things that can be syllabic:
/l lʷ r rʷ j w/ <l l(w) r r(w) y w>
/m n nʷ ŋ ŋʷ/ <m n n(w) ng ng(w)>
/ħ ħʷ ʕ ʕʷ ̃ʕ ̃ʕʷ/ <ħ ħ(w) v v(w) ñ ñ(w)>
/ʔ h/ <' h>
Things that can only be syllabic:
/a ə/ <a e>
Phonetic [a e ə o i ɨ u] are written <a ay e o i yi u>. Vowel length and high pitch are indicated by doubling and an acute, respectively.
Example sentences:
/jə́ⁿbⁿɟw̩ sáa wləə́ʕakʷ hn̩sʕ̩pʰr̩mⁿdə ʔbə́rⁿds ħʷə́jəŋs j̩cʔbákʷəs məns/
[jə́ⁿbɟu sáa uləə́ʕok hɨ̆nsɨ̆ʕpʰɨrmɨ̆ndə ʔbə́rɨ̆nts iʔɟɨ̆bókʷus məns]
yémbju sáa uleévok hinsivpirminde ƀérints yixiƀógus mens
Things that can't be syllabic:
/pʰ tʰ tʷʰ cʰ kʰ kʷʰ/ <p t t(w) c k k(w)>
/p t tʷ c k kʷ/ <b d d(w) j g g(w)>
/ʔb ʔd ʔdʷ ʔɟ ʔg ʔgʷ/ <ƀ đ đ(w) x q q(w)>
/ⁿb ⁿd ⁿdʷ ⁿɟ ⁿg ⁿgʷ/ <mb nd nd(w) nj nq nq(w)>
/s sʷ x xʷ/ <s s(w) kh kh(w)>
/ⁿz ⁿzʷ/ <z z(w)>
Things that can be syllabic:
/l lʷ r rʷ j w/ <l l(w) r r(w) y w>
/m n nʷ ŋ ŋʷ/ <m n n(w) ng ng(w)>
/ħ ħʷ ʕ ʕʷ ̃ʕ ̃ʕʷ/ <ħ ħ(w) v v(w) ñ ñ(w)>
/ʔ h/ <' h>
Things that can only be syllabic:
/a ə/ <a e>
Phonetic [a e ə o i ɨ u] are written <a ay e o i yi u>. Vowel length and high pitch are indicated by doubling and an acute, respectively.
Example sentences:
/jə́ⁿbⁿɟw̩ sáa wləə́ʕakʷ hn̩sʕ̩pʰr̩mⁿdə ʔbə́rⁿds ħʷə́jəŋs j̩cʔbákʷəs məns/
[jə́ⁿbɟu sáa uləə́ʕok hɨ̆nsɨ̆ʕpʰɨrmɨ̆ndə ʔbə́rɨ̆nts iʔɟɨ̆bókʷus məns]
yémbju sáa uleévok hinsivpirminde ƀérints yixiƀógus mens
陳第 wrote:蓋時有古今，地有南北；字有更革，音有轉移，亦勢所必至。
Read all about my excellent conlangsR.Rusanov wrote:seks istiyorum
sex want-PRS-1sg
Basic Conlanging Advice
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Re: Romanization challenge thread
/pʰ tʰ tʷʰ cʰ kʰ kʷʰ/ <p t t(w) c k k(w)>
/p t tʷ c k kʷ/ <b d d(w) j g g(w)>
/ʔb ʔd ʔdʷ ʔɟ ʔg ʔgʷ/ <ʔb ʔd ʔd(w) ʔj ʔg ʔg(w)>
/ⁿb ⁿd ⁿdʷ ⁿɟ ⁿg ⁿgʷ/ <mb nd nd(w) nj nk nk(w)>
/s sʷ x xʷ/ <s s(w) kh kh(w)>
/ⁿz ⁿzʷ/ <z z(w)>
Things that can be syllabic:
/l lʷ r rʷ j w/ <l l(w) r r(w) y w>
/m n nʷ ŋ ŋʷ/ <m n n(w) ng ng(w)>
/ħ ħʷ ʕ ʕʷ ̃ʕ ̃ʕʷ/ <x x(w) v v(w) ñ ñ(w)>
/ʔ h/ <ʔ h>
Things that can only be syllabic:
/a ə/ <a e>
/jə́ⁿbⁿɟw̩ sáa wləə́ʕakʷ l̩ħəsnj̩́ⁿdʷj̩m ʔbə́rⁿds ħʷə́jəŋs j̩cʔbákʷəs məns/
[jə́ⁿbɟu sáa uləə́ʕok lɨ̆ħəsníⁿdʷim ʔbə́rɨ̆nts ħʷéeŋs iʔɟɨ̆bókʷus məns]
Yémbnju sáa uleéxog lxesníndwim ʔbérnds xwáaings icʔbogus mens.
or
Yémbnju sáa uleéxagw lxesníndwim ʔbernds xwéyengs icʔbákwes mens.
/p t tʷ c k kʷ/ <b d d(w) j g g(w)>
/ʔb ʔd ʔdʷ ʔɟ ʔg ʔgʷ/ <ʔb ʔd ʔd(w) ʔj ʔg ʔg(w)>
/ⁿb ⁿd ⁿdʷ ⁿɟ ⁿg ⁿgʷ/ <mb nd nd(w) nj nk nk(w)>
/s sʷ x xʷ/ <s s(w) kh kh(w)>
/ⁿz ⁿzʷ/ <z z(w)>
Things that can be syllabic:
/l lʷ r rʷ j w/ <l l(w) r r(w) y w>
/m n nʷ ŋ ŋʷ/ <m n n(w) ng ng(w)>
/ħ ħʷ ʕ ʕʷ ̃ʕ ̃ʕʷ/ <x x(w) v v(w) ñ ñ(w)>
/ʔ h/ <ʔ h>
Things that can only be syllabic:
/a ə/ <a e>
/jə́ⁿbⁿɟw̩ sáa wləə́ʕakʷ l̩ħəsnj̩́ⁿdʷj̩m ʔbə́rⁿds ħʷə́jəŋs j̩cʔbákʷəs məns/
[jə́ⁿbɟu sáa uləə́ʕok lɨ̆ħəsníⁿdʷim ʔbə́rɨ̆nts ħʷéeŋs iʔɟɨ̆bókʷus məns]
Yémbnju sáa uleéxog lxesníndwim ʔbérnds xwáaings icʔbogus mens.
or
Yémbnju sáa uleéxagw lxesníndwim ʔbernds xwéyengs icʔbákwes mens.
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Re: Romanization challenge thread
actually, here's one I might use
/pʰ tʰ tʷʰ cʰ kʰ kʷʰ/ <ph th thw ch kh khw>
/p t tʷ c k kʷ/ <p t tw c k kw>
/ʔb ʔd ʔdʷ ʔɟ ʔg ʔgʷ/ <ḅ ḍ ḍw c̣ ḳ ḳw>
/ⁿb ⁿd ⁿdʷ ⁿɟ ⁿg ⁿgʷ/ <b d dw j g gw>
/s sʷ x xʷ/ <s sw h hw>
/ⁿz ⁿzʷ/ <z zw>
Things that can be syllabic:
/l lʷ r rʷ j w/ <l lw r rw y w>
/m n nʷ ŋ ŋʷ/ <m n nw ng ngw>
/ħ ħʷ ʕ ʕʷ ̃ʕ ̃ʕʷ/ <x xw v vw ñ ñw>
/ʔ h/ <ʔ ḥ>
Things that can only be syllabic:
/a ə/ <a e>
/jə́ⁿbⁿɟw̩ sáa wləə́ʕakʷ l̩ħəsnj̩́ⁿdʷj̩m ʔbə́rⁿds ħʷə́jəŋs j̩cʔbákʷəs məns/
Yébju sáa uleévakw lxesníndwim ḅérds xwéyengs icḅákwes mens.
/pʰ tʰ tʷʰ cʰ kʰ kʷʰ/ <ph th thw ch kh khw>
/p t tʷ c k kʷ/ <p t tw c k kw>
/ʔb ʔd ʔdʷ ʔɟ ʔg ʔgʷ/ <ḅ ḍ ḍw c̣ ḳ ḳw>
/ⁿb ⁿd ⁿdʷ ⁿɟ ⁿg ⁿgʷ/ <b d dw j g gw>
/s sʷ x xʷ/ <s sw h hw>
/ⁿz ⁿzʷ/ <z zw>
Things that can be syllabic:
/l lʷ r rʷ j w/ <l lw r rw y w>
/m n nʷ ŋ ŋʷ/ <m n nw ng ngw>
/ħ ħʷ ʕ ʕʷ ̃ʕ ̃ʕʷ/ <x xw v vw ñ ñw>
/ʔ h/ <ʔ ḥ>
Things that can only be syllabic:
/a ə/ <a e>
/jə́ⁿbⁿɟw̩ sáa wləə́ʕakʷ l̩ħəsnj̩́ⁿdʷj̩m ʔbə́rⁿds ħʷə́jəŋs j̩cʔbákʷəs məns/
Yébju sáa uleévakw lxesníndwim ḅérds xwéyengs icḅákwes mens.
Siöö jandeng raiglin zåbei tandiüłåd;
nää džunnfin kukuch vklaivei sivei tåd.
Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei.
nää džunnfin kukuch vklaivei sivei tåd.
Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei.
Re: Romanization challenge thread
Things that can't be syllabic:
/pʰ tʰ tʷʰ cʰ kʰ kʷʰ/ <p t tw c k kw>
/p t tʷ c k kʷ/ <b d dw j g gw>
/ʔb ʔd ʔdʷ ʔɟ ʔg ʔgʷ/ <ƀ đ đw ɉ ǥ ǥw>
/ⁿb ⁿd ⁿdʷ ⁿɟ ⁿg ⁿgʷ/ <mb nd ndw nj ng ngw>
/s sʷ x xʷ/ <s sw h hw>
/ⁿz ⁿzʷ/ <z zw>
Things that can be syllabic:
/l lʷ r rʷ j w/ <l lw r rw y w>
/m n nʷ ŋ ŋʷ/ <m n nw n̄ n̄w>
/ħ ħʷ ʕ ʕʷ ̃ʕ ̃ʕʷ/ <x xw q qw q̂ q̂w>
/ʔ h/ <' ḧ>
Things that can only be syllabic:
/a ə/ <a e>
[i e ɨ̆ o u] <i e̱ ɨ o u>
Moraic high/low pitch accent, one high accent per word. Plain-voiced plosives arise allophonically from a variety of rules.
/jə́ⁿbⁿɟw̩ sáa wləə́ʕakʷ l̩ħəsnj̩́ⁿdʷj̩m ʔbə́rⁿds ħʷə́jəŋs j̩cʔbákʷəs məns/
[jə́ⁿbɟu sáa uləə́ʕok lɨ̆ħəsníⁿdʷim ʔbə́rɨ̆nts ħʷéeŋs iʔɟɨ̆bókʷus məns]
Yémbnju sáa uleéqok lɨxesníndwim ƀérɨnds xwé̱e̱ŋs iɉɨƀókus mens.
or:
Things that can't be syllabic:
/pʰ tʰ tʷʰ cʰ kʰ kʷʰ/ <ph th tho ch kh kho>
/p t tʷ c k kʷ/ <p t to c k ko>
/ʔb ʔd ʔdʷ ʔɟ ʔg ʔgʷ/ <b d do j g go>
/ⁿb ⁿd ⁿdʷ ⁿɟ ⁿg ⁿgʷ/ <mb nd ndo nj ngg nggo>
/s sʷ x xʷ/ <s so x xo>
/ⁿz ⁿzʷ/ <nz nzo>
Things that can be syllabic:
/l lʷ r rʷ j w/ <l lo r ro y w>
/m n nʷ ŋ ŋʷ/ <m n no ng ngo>
/ħ ħʷ ʕ ʕʷ ̃ʕ ̃ʕʷ/ <ḥ ḥo q qo nq nqo>
/ʔ h/ <' h>
Things that can only be syllabic:
/a ə/ <a e>
[i ɨ̆ u] <i è u~oe>
Moraic high/low pitch accent <á>, one high accent per word. Plain-voiced plosives arise allophonically from a variety of rules. <ḇ ḏ ḏo j̄ ḡ ḡo>
Example sentences:
/jə́ⁿbⁿɟw̩ sáa wləə́ʕakʷ l̩ħəsnj̩́ⁿdʷj̩m ʔbə́rⁿds ħʷə́jəŋs j̩cʔbákʷəs məns/
[jə́ⁿbɟu sáa uləə́ʕok lɨ̆ħəsníⁿdʷim ʔbə́rɨ̆nts ħʷéeŋs iʔɟɨ̆bókʷus məns]
Yémbj̄u sáa uleéqako lèḥesníndoim bérènds hwéyengs ijiḇakoes mens.
/pʰ tʰ tʷʰ cʰ kʰ kʷʰ/ <p t tw c k kw>
/p t tʷ c k kʷ/ <b d dw j g gw>
/ʔb ʔd ʔdʷ ʔɟ ʔg ʔgʷ/ <ƀ đ đw ɉ ǥ ǥw>
/ⁿb ⁿd ⁿdʷ ⁿɟ ⁿg ⁿgʷ/ <mb nd ndw nj ng ngw>
/s sʷ x xʷ/ <s sw h hw>
/ⁿz ⁿzʷ/ <z zw>
Things that can be syllabic:
/l lʷ r rʷ j w/ <l lw r rw y w>
/m n nʷ ŋ ŋʷ/ <m n nw n̄ n̄w>
/ħ ħʷ ʕ ʕʷ ̃ʕ ̃ʕʷ/ <x xw q qw q̂ q̂w>
/ʔ h/ <' ḧ>
Things that can only be syllabic:
/a ə/ <a e>
[i e ɨ̆ o u] <i e̱ ɨ o u>
Moraic high/low pitch accent, one high accent per word. Plain-voiced plosives arise allophonically from a variety of rules.
/jə́ⁿbⁿɟw̩ sáa wləə́ʕakʷ l̩ħəsnj̩́ⁿdʷj̩m ʔbə́rⁿds ħʷə́jəŋs j̩cʔbákʷəs məns/
[jə́ⁿbɟu sáa uləə́ʕok lɨ̆ħəsníⁿdʷim ʔbə́rɨ̆nts ħʷéeŋs iʔɟɨ̆bókʷus məns]
Yémbnju sáa uleéqok lɨxesníndwim ƀérɨnds xwé̱e̱ŋs iɉɨƀókus mens.
or:
Things that can't be syllabic:
/pʰ tʰ tʷʰ cʰ kʰ kʷʰ/ <ph th tho ch kh kho>
/p t tʷ c k kʷ/ <p t to c k ko>
/ʔb ʔd ʔdʷ ʔɟ ʔg ʔgʷ/ <b d do j g go>
/ⁿb ⁿd ⁿdʷ ⁿɟ ⁿg ⁿgʷ/ <mb nd ndo nj ngg nggo>
/s sʷ x xʷ/ <s so x xo>
/ⁿz ⁿzʷ/ <nz nzo>
Things that can be syllabic:
/l lʷ r rʷ j w/ <l lo r ro y w>
/m n nʷ ŋ ŋʷ/ <m n no ng ngo>
/ħ ħʷ ʕ ʕʷ ̃ʕ ̃ʕʷ/ <ḥ ḥo q qo nq nqo>
/ʔ h/ <' h>
Things that can only be syllabic:
/a ə/ <a e>
[i ɨ̆ u] <i è u~oe>
Moraic high/low pitch accent <á>, one high accent per word. Plain-voiced plosives arise allophonically from a variety of rules. <ḇ ḏ ḏo j̄ ḡ ḡo>
Example sentences:
/jə́ⁿbⁿɟw̩ sáa wləə́ʕakʷ l̩ħəsnj̩́ⁿdʷj̩m ʔbə́rⁿds ħʷə́jəŋs j̩cʔbákʷəs məns/
[jə́ⁿbɟu sáa uləə́ʕok lɨ̆ħəsníⁿdʷim ʔbə́rɨ̆nts ħʷéeŋs iʔɟɨ̆bókʷus məns]
Yémbj̄u sáa uleéqako lèḥesníndoim bérènds hwéyengs ijiḇakoes mens.
Re: Romanization challenge thread
Guess what? It's another Shayana! Except this time it's a different but related language from the same family.
Phoenician Shayana.
Consonants:
/pʰ~p͡xʰ p~p͡x b~bə pʰʲ~pʰʲj pʲ~pʲj bʲ~bʲj tʰ~t͡xʰ t~t͡x d~də tʰʲ~tʰʲj tʲ~tʲj dʲ~dʲj kʰ~k͡xʰ k~k͡x g~g͡ɣ kʰʲ~kʰʲj c͡ç~c ɟ͡ʝ~ɟ ʔ/
/m~mə mʲ~mʲj n~nə nʲ~nʲj~ɲ ŋ/
/ɾ~ɾə ɹ~ɹj~ʐ̺~z~ə/
/t͡sʰː~t͡sʰːx t͡s~t͡sx d͡z t͡sʰʲː~t͡sʰʲːj t͡sʲ~t͡sʲj t͡ʂ̺ʰː t͡ʂ̺ d͡ʐ̺ t͡ɕ̻ʰː t͡ɕ̻ d͡ʑ̻
/f~f͡x v~və fʲ~fʲj vʲ~vʲj s~s͡x z sʲ~sʲj ʂ̺ ʐ̺ ɕ̻ ʑ̻ x ɣ /
/j w/
/lʲ~lʲj~ʎ ɫ~ɫ͡ə/
Vowels:
/ɪ u e ə o ɐ/
/i: u: e: ə: o: ä:/
/ɪ̃ ĩ: ũ ũ: ɛ̃ ɛ̃: ə̃˩ ə̃:˩ ɔ̃ ɔ̃: ɐ̃ ä̃:/
/ɪ˩ u˩ e˩ ə˩ o˩ ɐ˩/
/i:˩ u:˩ e:˩ ə:˩ o:˩ ä:˩/
/ɪ̃˩ ĩ:˩ ũ˩ ũ˩: ɛ̃˩ ɛ̃˩: ɔ̃˩ ɔ̃˩: ɐ̃˩ ä̃˩:/
Nasal vowels and vowel + nasal sequences contrast, geminated consonants are common. Palatalised consonant and consonant + /j/ sequences never contrast, just like non-palatalised consonant and consonant + /x/ sequences - same as on Ilos. Also, all first vowels in a word are always long except in recent borrowings and /ɣ/ never occurs anywhere except before a vowel.
An actual sentence:
/fe:nʲɪʐ̺ɐ̃ ʂ̺ä:jɪŋ i:ʑ̻lʲjeʔ i:ɫozɐ̃ ʂ̺ä:jɪŋ tä:lʲkʲəf, o:˩ i:ʑ̻ t͡sʰːxi:dʲjũ˩: lɔ̃ɣɐʂ̺/
Phoenician Shayana.
Consonants:
/pʰ~p͡xʰ p~p͡x b~bə pʰʲ~pʰʲj pʲ~pʲj bʲ~bʲj tʰ~t͡xʰ t~t͡x d~də tʰʲ~tʰʲj tʲ~tʲj dʲ~dʲj kʰ~k͡xʰ k~k͡x g~g͡ɣ kʰʲ~kʰʲj c͡ç~c ɟ͡ʝ~ɟ ʔ/
/m~mə mʲ~mʲj n~nə nʲ~nʲj~ɲ ŋ/
/ɾ~ɾə ɹ~ɹj~ʐ̺~z~ə/
/t͡sʰː~t͡sʰːx t͡s~t͡sx d͡z t͡sʰʲː~t͡sʰʲːj t͡sʲ~t͡sʲj t͡ʂ̺ʰː t͡ʂ̺ d͡ʐ̺ t͡ɕ̻ʰː t͡ɕ̻ d͡ʑ̻
/f~f͡x v~və fʲ~fʲj vʲ~vʲj s~s͡x z sʲ~sʲj ʂ̺ ʐ̺ ɕ̻ ʑ̻ x ɣ /
/j w/
/lʲ~lʲj~ʎ ɫ~ɫ͡ə/
Vowels:
/ɪ u e ə o ɐ/
/i: u: e: ə: o: ä:/
/ɪ̃ ĩ: ũ ũ: ɛ̃ ɛ̃: ə̃˩ ə̃:˩ ɔ̃ ɔ̃: ɐ̃ ä̃:/
/ɪ˩ u˩ e˩ ə˩ o˩ ɐ˩/
/i:˩ u:˩ e:˩ ə:˩ o:˩ ä:˩/
/ɪ̃˩ ĩ:˩ ũ˩ ũ˩: ɛ̃˩ ɛ̃˩: ɔ̃˩ ɔ̃˩: ɐ̃˩ ä̃˩:/
Nasal vowels and vowel + nasal sequences contrast, geminated consonants are common. Palatalised consonant and consonant + /j/ sequences never contrast, just like non-palatalised consonant and consonant + /x/ sequences - same as on Ilos. Also, all first vowels in a word are always long except in recent borrowings and /ɣ/ never occurs anywhere except before a vowel.
An actual sentence:
/fe:nʲɪʐ̺ɐ̃ ʂ̺ä:jɪŋ i:ʑ̻lʲjeʔ i:ɫozɐ̃ ʂ̺ä:jɪŋ tä:lʲkʲəf, o:˩ i:ʑ̻ t͡sʰːxi:dʲjũ˩: lɔ̃ɣɐʂ̺/
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Re: Romanization challenge thread
/pʰ~p͡xʰ p~p͡x b~bə pʰʲ~pʰʲj pʲ~pʲj bʲ~bʲj tʰ~t͡xʰ t~t͡x d~də tʰʲ~tʰʲj tʲ~tʲj dʲ~dʲj kʰ~k͡xʰ k~k͡x g~g͡ɣ kʰʲ~kʰʲj c͡ç~c ɟ͡ʝ~ɟ ʔ/ <ph p b phy ph b th t d thy ty dy kh k gk~g khy ky gky~gk ħ>
/m~mə mʲ~mʲj n~nə nʲ~nʲj~ɲ ŋ/ <m my n ny ng>
/ɾ~ɾə ɹ~ɹj~ʐ̺~z~ə/ <r ry>
/t͡sʰː~t͡sʰːx t͡s~t͡sx d͡z t͡sʰʲː~t͡sʰʲːj t͡sʲ~t͡sʲj t͡ʂ̺ʰː t͡ʂ̺ d͡ʐ̺ t͡ɕ̻ʰː t͡ɕ̻ d͡ʑ̻ <ch c dz chy cy txh tx dj txhy txy djy>
/f~f͡x v~və fʲ~fʲj vʲ~vʲj s~s͡x z sʲ~sʲj ʂ̺ ʐ̺ ɕ̻ ʑ̻ x ɣ / <f v fy vy s z sy x j xy jy h g>
/j w/ <y w>
/lʲ~lʲj~ʎ ɫ~ɫ͡ə/ <ly l>
Vowels:
/ɪ u e ə o ɐ/ <i u e ə o a> (or with a breve in the first syllable)
/i: u: e: ə: o: ä:/ <ī...>
/ɪ̃ ĩ: ũ ũ: ɛ̃ ɛ̃: ə̃˩ ə̃:˩ ɔ̃ ɔ̃: ɐ̃ ä̃:/ <į...>
/ɪ˩ u˩ e˩ ə˩ o˩ ɐ˩/ <ì...>
/i:˩ u:˩ e:˩ ə:˩ o:˩ ä:˩/ <î...>
/ɪ̃˩ ĩ:˩ ũ˩ ũ˩: ɛ̃˩ ɛ̃˩: ɔ̃˩ ɔ̃˩: ɐ̃˩ ä̃˩:/ <į̀...>
/fe:nʲɪʐ̺ɐ̃ ʂ̺ä:jɪŋ i:ʑ̻lʲjeʔ i:ɫozɐ̃ ʂ̺ä:jɪŋ tä:lʲkʲəf, o:˩ i:ʑ̻ t͡sʰːxi:dʲjũ˩: lɔ̃ɣɐʂ̺/
Fenyiją xaying ijlyeħ ilozą xaying talkyəf, o ijy chidyų̂ lǫ̆gax.
or: nasal vowels <-n>, VnC <Vn'C>, ŋ <ñ>
Fen'yijan xayiñ ijlyeħ ilozan xayiñ talkyəf, o ijy chidyûn lŏngax.
or: as above, but /x ɣ ŋ/ <xh gh g>, /ʔ ə/ <q ae>, long vowels <VV> except /ə:/ <ai>, low tone <-h>, unexpected short vowels <V'>
Fen'yijan xayig ijlyeq ilozan xayig talkyaef, o ijy chidyuuhn lo'nghax.
or: /ŋ/ <ng>, nasal vowels <Vm> before velars
Fen'yijan xaying ijlyeq ilozan xaying talkyaef, o ijy chidyuuhn lo'mghax.
/m~mə mʲ~mʲj n~nə nʲ~nʲj~ɲ ŋ/ <m my n ny ng>
/ɾ~ɾə ɹ~ɹj~ʐ̺~z~ə/ <r ry>
/t͡sʰː~t͡sʰːx t͡s~t͡sx d͡z t͡sʰʲː~t͡sʰʲːj t͡sʲ~t͡sʲj t͡ʂ̺ʰː t͡ʂ̺ d͡ʐ̺ t͡ɕ̻ʰː t͡ɕ̻ d͡ʑ̻ <ch c dz chy cy txh tx dj txhy txy djy>
/f~f͡x v~və fʲ~fʲj vʲ~vʲj s~s͡x z sʲ~sʲj ʂ̺ ʐ̺ ɕ̻ ʑ̻ x ɣ / <f v fy vy s z sy x j xy jy h g>
/j w/ <y w>
/lʲ~lʲj~ʎ ɫ~ɫ͡ə/ <ly l>
Vowels:
/ɪ u e ə o ɐ/ <i u e ə o a> (or with a breve in the first syllable)
/i: u: e: ə: o: ä:/ <ī...>
/ɪ̃ ĩ: ũ ũ: ɛ̃ ɛ̃: ə̃˩ ə̃:˩ ɔ̃ ɔ̃: ɐ̃ ä̃:/ <į...>
/ɪ˩ u˩ e˩ ə˩ o˩ ɐ˩/ <ì...>
/i:˩ u:˩ e:˩ ə:˩ o:˩ ä:˩/ <î...>
/ɪ̃˩ ĩ:˩ ũ˩ ũ˩: ɛ̃˩ ɛ̃˩: ɔ̃˩ ɔ̃˩: ɐ̃˩ ä̃˩:/ <į̀...>
/fe:nʲɪʐ̺ɐ̃ ʂ̺ä:jɪŋ i:ʑ̻lʲjeʔ i:ɫozɐ̃ ʂ̺ä:jɪŋ tä:lʲkʲəf, o:˩ i:ʑ̻ t͡sʰːxi:dʲjũ˩: lɔ̃ɣɐʂ̺/
Fenyiją xaying ijlyeħ ilozą xaying talkyəf, o ijy chidyų̂ lǫ̆gax.
or: nasal vowels <-n>, VnC <Vn'C>, ŋ <ñ>
Fen'yijan xayiñ ijlyeħ ilozan xayiñ talkyəf, o ijy chidyûn lŏngax.
or: as above, but /x ɣ ŋ/ <xh gh g>, /ʔ ə/ <q ae>, long vowels <VV> except /ə:/ <ai>, low tone <-h>, unexpected short vowels <V'>
Fen'yijan xayig ijlyeq ilozan xayig talkyaef, o ijy chidyuuhn lo'nghax.
or: /ŋ/ <ng>, nasal vowels <Vm> before velars
Fen'yijan xaying ijlyeq ilozan xaying talkyaef, o ijy chidyuuhn lo'mghax.
Siöö jandeng raiglin zåbei tandiüłåd;
nää džunnfin kukuch vklaivei sivei tåd.
Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei.
nää džunnfin kukuch vklaivei sivei tåd.
Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei.
Re: Romanization challenge thread
Consonants:
/pʰ~p͡xʰ p~p͡x b~bə pʰʲ~pʰʲj pʲ~pʲj bʲ~bʲj tʰ~t͡xʰ t~t͡x d~də tʰʲ~tʰʲj tʲ~tʲj dʲ~dʲj kʰ~k͡xʰ k~k͡x g~g͡ɣ kʰʲ~kʰʲj c͡ç~c ɟ͡ʝ~ɟ ʔ/
<ph p b ph́ ṕ b́ th t d th́ t́ d́ kh k g kh́ ḱ ǵ ʔ>
/m~mə mʲ~mʲj n~nə nʲ~nʲj~ɲ ŋ/ <m ḿ n ń ŋ>
/ɾ~ɾə ɹ~ɹj~ʐ̺~z~ə/ <r ṟ>
/t͡sʰː~t͡sʰːx t͡s~t͡sx d͡z t͡sʰʲː~t͡sʰʲːj t͡sʲ~t͡sʲj t͡ʂ̺ʰː t͡ʂ̺ d͡ʐ̺ t͡ɕ̻ʰː t͡ɕ̻ d͡ʑ̻/ <cc c ʒ ćć ć ʒ́ çç ç ƹ ḉḉ ḉ ƹ́>
/f~f͡x v~və fʲ~fʲj vʲ~vʲj s~s͡x z sʲ~sʲj ʂ̺ ʐ̺ ɕ̻ ʑ̻ x ɣ/ <f v f́ v́ s z ś ź ṣ ẓ ṣ́ ẓ́ x ḡ>
/j w/ <ę w>
/lʲ~lʲj~ʎ ɫ~ɫ͡ə/ <ĺ l>
Vowels:
/ɪ u e ə o ɐ/ <i u e ä o a>
/i: u: e: ə: o: ä:/ <ī ū ē ǟ ō ā> except in the first syllable
/ɪ̃ ĩ: ũ ũ: ɛ̃ ɛ̃: ə̃˩ ə̃:˩ ɔ̃ ɔ̃: ɐ̃ ä̃:/ <iⁿ…>
/ɪ˩ u˩ e˩ ə˩ o˩ ɐ˩/ <ì…>
/i:˩ u:˩ e:˩ ə:˩ o:˩ ä:˩/ <ĩ…>
/ɪ̃˩ ĩ:˩ ũ˩ ũ˩: ɛ̃˩ ɛ̃˩: ɔ̃˩ ɔ̃˩: ɐ̃˩ ä̃˩:/ <ĩⁿ…>
Nasal vowels and vowel + nasal sequences contrast, geminated consonants are common. Palatalised consonant and consonant + /j/ sequences never contrast, just like non-palatalised consonant and consonant + /x/ sequences - same as on Ilos. Also, all first vowels in a word are always long except in recent borrowings <Ṿ> and /ɣ/ never occurs anywhere except before a vowel.
An actual sentence:
/fe:nʲɪʐ̺ɐ̃ ʂ̺ä:jɪŋ i:ʑ̻lʲjeʔ i:ɫozɐ̃ ʂ̺ä:jɪŋ tä:lʲkʲəf, o:˩ i:ʑ̻ t͡sʰːxi:dʲjũ˩: lɔ̃ɣɐʂ̺/
Feńiẓaⁿ ṣaęiŋ iẓ́ĺeʔ ilozaⁿ ṣaęiŋ taĺḱäf, ò iẓ́ ccid́ũⁿ lọⁿḡaṣ.
/pʰ~p͡xʰ p~p͡x b~bə pʰʲ~pʰʲj pʲ~pʲj bʲ~bʲj tʰ~t͡xʰ t~t͡x d~də tʰʲ~tʰʲj tʲ~tʲj dʲ~dʲj kʰ~k͡xʰ k~k͡x g~g͡ɣ kʰʲ~kʰʲj c͡ç~c ɟ͡ʝ~ɟ ʔ/
<ph p b ph́ ṕ b́ th t d th́ t́ d́ kh k g kh́ ḱ ǵ ʔ>
/m~mə mʲ~mʲj n~nə nʲ~nʲj~ɲ ŋ/ <m ḿ n ń ŋ>
/ɾ~ɾə ɹ~ɹj~ʐ̺~z~ə/ <r ṟ>
/t͡sʰː~t͡sʰːx t͡s~t͡sx d͡z t͡sʰʲː~t͡sʰʲːj t͡sʲ~t͡sʲj t͡ʂ̺ʰː t͡ʂ̺ d͡ʐ̺ t͡ɕ̻ʰː t͡ɕ̻ d͡ʑ̻/ <cc c ʒ ćć ć ʒ́ çç ç ƹ ḉḉ ḉ ƹ́>
/f~f͡x v~və fʲ~fʲj vʲ~vʲj s~s͡x z sʲ~sʲj ʂ̺ ʐ̺ ɕ̻ ʑ̻ x ɣ/ <f v f́ v́ s z ś ź ṣ ẓ ṣ́ ẓ́ x ḡ>
/j w/ <ę w>
/lʲ~lʲj~ʎ ɫ~ɫ͡ə/ <ĺ l>
Vowels:
/ɪ u e ə o ɐ/ <i u e ä o a>
/i: u: e: ə: o: ä:/ <ī ū ē ǟ ō ā> except in the first syllable
/ɪ̃ ĩ: ũ ũ: ɛ̃ ɛ̃: ə̃˩ ə̃:˩ ɔ̃ ɔ̃: ɐ̃ ä̃:/ <iⁿ…>
/ɪ˩ u˩ e˩ ə˩ o˩ ɐ˩/ <ì…>
/i:˩ u:˩ e:˩ ə:˩ o:˩ ä:˩/ <ĩ…>
/ɪ̃˩ ĩ:˩ ũ˩ ũ˩: ɛ̃˩ ɛ̃˩: ɔ̃˩ ɔ̃˩: ɐ̃˩ ä̃˩:/ <ĩⁿ…>
Nasal vowels and vowel + nasal sequences contrast, geminated consonants are common. Palatalised consonant and consonant + /j/ sequences never contrast, just like non-palatalised consonant and consonant + /x/ sequences - same as on Ilos. Also, all first vowels in a word are always long except in recent borrowings <Ṿ> and /ɣ/ never occurs anywhere except before a vowel.
An actual sentence:
/fe:nʲɪʐ̺ɐ̃ ʂ̺ä:jɪŋ i:ʑ̻lʲjeʔ i:ɫozɐ̃ ʂ̺ä:jɪŋ tä:lʲkʲəf, o:˩ i:ʑ̻ t͡sʰːxi:dʲjũ˩: lɔ̃ɣɐʂ̺/
Feńiẓaⁿ ṣaęiŋ iẓ́ĺeʔ ilozaⁿ ṣaęiŋ taĺḱäf, ò iẓ́ ccid́ũⁿ lọⁿḡaṣ.
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Re: Romanization challenge thread
Ndasti:
/m (n)/ <m n>
/p~b t~d tʃ~dʒ k~ɡ/ <b d j g>
/ᵐb ⁿd ⁿdʒ ᵑɡ/ <mb nd nj ng>
/ts(ʰ)/ <c>
/pʰ tʰ tʃʰ kʰ/ <p t č k>
/ᵐpʰ ⁿtʰ ⁿtʃʰ ᵑkʰ/ <mp nt nč nk>
/s h/ <s h>
/w l r/ <w l r>
/i a u/ <i a u>
/iː aː uː/ <ii aa uu>
/ei~eː ou~oː/ <e o>
/m (n)/ <m n>
/p~b t~d tʃ~dʒ k~ɡ/ <b d j g>
/ᵐb ⁿd ⁿdʒ ᵑɡ/ <mb nd nj ng>
/ts(ʰ)/ <c>
/pʰ tʰ tʃʰ kʰ/ <p t č k>
/ᵐpʰ ⁿtʰ ⁿtʃʰ ᵑkʰ/ <mp nt nč nk>
/s h/ <s h>
/w l r/ <w l r>
/i a u/ <i a u>
/iː aː uː/ <ii aa uu>
/ei~eː ou~oː/ <e o>
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Re: Romanization challenge thread
My own version of Phoenician Shayana, which shamelessly steals Nort's ideas and leaves behind proper referencing, if desired.
Consonants:
/pʰ~p͡xʰ p~p͡x b~bə pʰʲ~pʰʲj pʲ~pʲj bʲ~bʲj tʰ~t͡xʰ t~t͡x d~də tʰʲ~tʰʲj tʲ~tʲj dʲ~dʲj kʰ~k͡xʰ k~k͡x g~g͡ɣ kʰʲ~kʰʲj c͡ç~c ɟ͡ʝ~ɟ ʔ/ <pph ph bh ppy py by tth th dh kk k gh cc c gy q>
/m~mə mʲ~mʲj n~nə nʲ~nʲj~ɲ ŋ/ <mh my nh ny ng>
/ɾ~ɾə ɹ~ɹj~ʐ̺~z~ə/ <rh ry>
/t͡sʰː~t͡sʰːx t͡s~t͡sx d͡z t͡sʰʲː~t͡sʰʲːj t͡sʲ~t͡sʲj t͡ʂ̺ʰː t͡ʂ̺ d͡ʐ̺ t͡ɕ̻ʰː t͡ɕ̻ d͡ʑ̻ <tsh dsh dzh tsy dsy tx dx dj tś dś dȷ́~dzy>
/f~f͡x v~və fʲ~fʲj vʲ~vʲj s~s͡x z sʲ~sʲj ʂ̺ ʐ̺ ɕ̻ ʑ̻ x ɣ / <fh vh fy vy sh zh sy x j ś ȷ́~zy h ğ>
/j w/ y w
/lʲ~lʲj~ʎ ɫ~ɫ͡ə/ <ly lh>
Palatalised consonants are only marked with <y> before back vowels and /ä: ɐ/. Non-palatalised consonants are only marked as such before high front vowels. Palatalised consonant + schwa sequences are written as <Cea>, while non-palatalised consonant + schwa sequences are written as <Cæ>. The exception to the above three rules are /kʰ~k͡xʰ k~k͡x kʰʲ~kʰʲj c͡ç~c t͡ʂ̺ʰː t͡ʂ̺ d͡ʐ̺ t͡ɕ̻ʰː t͡ɕ̻ d͡ʑ̻ ʂ̺ ʐ̺ ɕ̻ ʑ̻/, which are always marked as <kk k cc c tx dx dj tś dś dȷ́~dzy x j ś ȷ́~zy>, respectively and which cause the following schwas to be always written as <æ>. Geminated plosives are marked with an acute accent - in a digraph, on the right character and in a trigraph, on the central character (e.g. <ṕ pṕ pṕh>). Geminated nasals, glides, liquids and fricatives are doubled <CC CCh CCy>. Geminated affricates double the first character (e.g. <ttsh ddsy ddȷ́). <zy> and <dzy> standing for /ʑ̻/ and /d͡ʑ̻/ respectively reflects a very recent phonological shift.
Vowels:
/ɪ u e ə o ɐ/ <i u e æ~ea o a>
/i: u: e: ə: o: ä:/ <ī...>
/ɪ̃ ĩ: ũ ũ: ɛ̃ ɛ̃: ə̃˩ ə̃:˩ ɔ̃ ɔ̃: ɐ̃ ä̃:/ <į...>
/ɪ˩ u˩ e˩ ə˩ o˩ ɐ˩/ <ì...>
/i:˩ u:˩ e:˩ ə:˩ o:˩ ä:˩/ <î...>
/ɪ̃˩ ĩ:˩ ũ˩ ũ˩: ɛ̃˩ ɛ̃˩: ɔ̃˩ ɔ̃˩: ɐ̃˩ ä̃˩:/ <į̀...>
Long vowels are not marked if they are the first in a word, but short vowels in this position are marked with a breve. Long vowels may be marked with a following silent <ğ> if they are before a consonant or word-final, which also reflects a very recent phonological shift.
An actual sentence, with slight corrections to the original phonemes:
/fʲe:nʲɪʐ̺ɐ̃ ʂ̺ä:jɪŋ i:ʑ̻lʲjeʔ i:ɫozɐ̃ ʂ̺ä:jɪŋ tä:lʲkʲəf, o:˩ i:ʑ̻ t͡sʰːxi:dʲjũ˩: lɔ̃ɣɐʂ̺/
Feniją xaying iȷ́leq ilozą xaying talcæf, ò iȷ́ tshidyų̂ lǫ̆ğax.
Consonants:
/pʰ~p͡xʰ p~p͡x b~bə pʰʲ~pʰʲj pʲ~pʲj bʲ~bʲj tʰ~t͡xʰ t~t͡x d~də tʰʲ~tʰʲj tʲ~tʲj dʲ~dʲj kʰ~k͡xʰ k~k͡x g~g͡ɣ kʰʲ~kʰʲj c͡ç~c ɟ͡ʝ~ɟ ʔ/ <pph ph bh ppy py by tth th dh kk k gh cc c gy q>
/m~mə mʲ~mʲj n~nə nʲ~nʲj~ɲ ŋ/ <mh my nh ny ng>
/ɾ~ɾə ɹ~ɹj~ʐ̺~z~ə/ <rh ry>
/t͡sʰː~t͡sʰːx t͡s~t͡sx d͡z t͡sʰʲː~t͡sʰʲːj t͡sʲ~t͡sʲj t͡ʂ̺ʰː t͡ʂ̺ d͡ʐ̺ t͡ɕ̻ʰː t͡ɕ̻ d͡ʑ̻ <tsh dsh dzh tsy dsy tx dx dj tś dś dȷ́~dzy>
/f~f͡x v~və fʲ~fʲj vʲ~vʲj s~s͡x z sʲ~sʲj ʂ̺ ʐ̺ ɕ̻ ʑ̻ x ɣ / <fh vh fy vy sh zh sy x j ś ȷ́~zy h ğ>
/j w/ y w
/lʲ~lʲj~ʎ ɫ~ɫ͡ə/ <ly lh>
Palatalised consonants are only marked with <y> before back vowels and /ä: ɐ/. Non-palatalised consonants are only marked as such before high front vowels. Palatalised consonant + schwa sequences are written as <Cea>, while non-palatalised consonant + schwa sequences are written as <Cæ>. The exception to the above three rules are /kʰ~k͡xʰ k~k͡x kʰʲ~kʰʲj c͡ç~c t͡ʂ̺ʰː t͡ʂ̺ d͡ʐ̺ t͡ɕ̻ʰː t͡ɕ̻ d͡ʑ̻ ʂ̺ ʐ̺ ɕ̻ ʑ̻/, which are always marked as <kk k cc c tx dx dj tś dś dȷ́~dzy x j ś ȷ́~zy>, respectively and which cause the following schwas to be always written as <æ>. Geminated plosives are marked with an acute accent - in a digraph, on the right character and in a trigraph, on the central character (e.g. <ṕ pṕ pṕh>). Geminated nasals, glides, liquids and fricatives are doubled <CC CCh CCy>. Geminated affricates double the first character (e.g. <ttsh ddsy ddȷ́). <zy> and <dzy> standing for /ʑ̻/ and /d͡ʑ̻/ respectively reflects a very recent phonological shift.
Vowels:
/ɪ u e ə o ɐ/ <i u e æ~ea o a>
/i: u: e: ə: o: ä:/ <ī...>
/ɪ̃ ĩ: ũ ũ: ɛ̃ ɛ̃: ə̃˩ ə̃:˩ ɔ̃ ɔ̃: ɐ̃ ä̃:/ <į...>
/ɪ˩ u˩ e˩ ə˩ o˩ ɐ˩/ <ì...>
/i:˩ u:˩ e:˩ ə:˩ o:˩ ä:˩/ <î...>
/ɪ̃˩ ĩ:˩ ũ˩ ũ˩: ɛ̃˩ ɛ̃˩: ɔ̃˩ ɔ̃˩: ɐ̃˩ ä̃˩:/ <į̀...>
Long vowels are not marked if they are the first in a word, but short vowels in this position are marked with a breve. Long vowels may be marked with a following silent <ğ> if they are before a consonant or word-final, which also reflects a very recent phonological shift.
An actual sentence, with slight corrections to the original phonemes:
/fʲe:nʲɪʐ̺ɐ̃ ʂ̺ä:jɪŋ i:ʑ̻lʲjeʔ i:ɫozɐ̃ ʂ̺ä:jɪŋ tä:lʲkʲəf, o:˩ i:ʑ̻ t͡sʰːxi:dʲjũ˩: lɔ̃ɣɐʂ̺/
Feniją xaying iȷ́leq ilozą xaying talcæf, ò iȷ́ tshidyų̂ lǫ̆ğax.
Re: Romanization challenge thread
thetha's language
/p b t d kʲ ɡʲ k͡ʟ̥ kʷ ɡʷ k͡ʟ̥ʷ q ɢ qʷ ɢʷ/ <p b t d k g kl kv gv klv q q̇ qv q̇v>
/s z ʃ ʒ ʒʷ ʟ̥ ʟ̥ʷ χ χʷ ʁ ʁʷ h/ <s z š ž žv l lv x xv r̀ r̀v h>
/m n ŋ r w j/ <m n ŋ r w j>
/t͡s t͡ʃ t͡ʃʷ/ <ts tš tšv>
/i iː e eː a aː o oː u uː ə/ <i ii e ee a aa o oo u uu ĕ>
Tšvaaro saxšini mĕklvedis da br̀uuŋĕn qvĕt gžvenai q̇iltšni xatsma pakun wi.
agefaqeg-style:
<p b t d k g kl kw gw klw q q̇ qw q̇w>
<s z š ž žw l lw kh khw q̇h q̇hw h>
<m n ŋ r̀ w r>
<ts ť ťw>
/i iː e eː a aː o oː u uː ə/ <i ii e ee a aa o oo u uu ê>
ťwaar̀o sakhšini mêklwedis da bq̇huuŋên qwêt gžwenai q̇ilťni khatsma pakun wi,
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Phoenician Shayana
<ph p b phj pj bj th t d thj tj dj kh k g khj kj gj ɂ>
<m mj n nj ŋ>
<r rj>
<tsh ts dz tshj tsj tṣh tṣ dẓ tšh tš dž>
<f v fj vj s z sj ṣ ẓ š ž x ġ>
<j w>, /j/ is written as <j̈> when ambiguous
<lj l>
/iː uː u ɪ e eː ə əː o oː ɐ äː/ <ii uu u i e ee ĕ ĕĕ o oo a aa>
/ĩː ũː ũ ɪ̃ ɛ̃ ɛ̃ː ə̃ ə̃ː ɔ̃ ɔ̃ː ɐ̃ ä̃ː/ <ĩĩ ũũ ũ ĩ ẽ ẽẽ ĕ̃ ĕ̃ĕ̃ õ õõ ã ãã>
Long vowels and short vowels are optionally (not usually) distinguished in the orthography in the first syllable.
/V˧ V˩/ <V V̀>
Fjenjižã ṣajiŋ ižljjeɂ ilozã ṣajiŋ taljkjĕf, ò iž tshidjũ̀ũ̀ lõġaṣ.
OR
Fjeenjižã ṣaajiŋ iižljjeɂ iilozã ṣaajiŋ taaljkjĕf, òò iiž tshiidjũ̀ũ̀ lõġaṣ.
agefaqeg-style:
<pḥ p b pḥr pr br tḥ t d tḥr tr dr kḥ k g kḥr kr gr>
<m mr n nr ŋ>
<r rr> or <r̈ r̈r> to disambiguate
<tsḥ ts dz tsḥr tsr tṣḥ tṣ dẓ tšḥ tš ž>
<f v fr vr s z sr ṣ ẓ š žh kh gh>
<r̀ w>
<l ł>
/iː uː u ɪ e eː ə əː o oː ɐ äː/ <ii uu u ì e ee ê êê ou ouou a aa>
/ĩː ũː ũ ɪ̃ ɛ̃ ɛ̃ː ə̃ ə̃ː ɔ̃ ɔ̃ː ɐ̃ ä̃ː/ <ĩĩ ũũ ũ ì̃ ẽ ẽẽ ễ ễễ o oo ã ãã>
/V˧ V˩/ <V V>
freenžhìã ṣaarìŋ iižhlre iilozã ṣaarìŋ taalkrêf, ouou iižh tsḥiidrũũ loghaṣ,
/p b t d kʲ ɡʲ k͡ʟ̥ kʷ ɡʷ k͡ʟ̥ʷ q ɢ qʷ ɢʷ/ <p b t d k g kl kv gv klv q q̇ qv q̇v>
/s z ʃ ʒ ʒʷ ʟ̥ ʟ̥ʷ χ χʷ ʁ ʁʷ h/ <s z š ž žv l lv x xv r̀ r̀v h>
/m n ŋ r w j/ <m n ŋ r w j>
/t͡s t͡ʃ t͡ʃʷ/ <ts tš tšv>
/i iː e eː a aː o oː u uː ə/ <i ii e ee a aa o oo u uu ĕ>
Tšvaaro saxšini mĕklvedis da br̀uuŋĕn qvĕt gžvenai q̇iltšni xatsma pakun wi.
agefaqeg-style:
<p b t d k g kl kw gw klw q q̇ qw q̇w>
<s z š ž žw l lw kh khw q̇h q̇hw h>
<m n ŋ r̀ w r>
<ts ť ťw>
/i iː e eː a aː o oː u uː ə/ <i ii e ee a aa o oo u uu ê>
ťwaar̀o sakhšini mêklwedis da bq̇huuŋên qwêt gžwenai q̇ilťni khatsma pakun wi,
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Phoenician Shayana
<ph p b phj pj bj th t d thj tj dj kh k g khj kj gj ɂ>
<m mj n nj ŋ>
<r rj>
<tsh ts dz tshj tsj tṣh tṣ dẓ tšh tš dž>
<f v fj vj s z sj ṣ ẓ š ž x ġ>
<j w>, /j/ is written as <j̈> when ambiguous
<lj l>
/iː uː u ɪ e eː ə əː o oː ɐ äː/ <ii uu u i e ee ĕ ĕĕ o oo a aa>
/ĩː ũː ũ ɪ̃ ɛ̃ ɛ̃ː ə̃ ə̃ː ɔ̃ ɔ̃ː ɐ̃ ä̃ː/ <ĩĩ ũũ ũ ĩ ẽ ẽẽ ĕ̃ ĕ̃ĕ̃ õ õõ ã ãã>
Long vowels and short vowels are optionally (not usually) distinguished in the orthography in the first syllable.
/V˧ V˩/ <V V̀>
Fjenjižã ṣajiŋ ižljjeɂ ilozã ṣajiŋ taljkjĕf, ò iž tshidjũ̀ũ̀ lõġaṣ.
OR
Fjeenjižã ṣaajiŋ iižljjeɂ iilozã ṣaajiŋ taaljkjĕf, òò iiž tshiidjũ̀ũ̀ lõġaṣ.
agefaqeg-style:
<pḥ p b pḥr pr br tḥ t d tḥr tr dr kḥ k g kḥr kr gr>
<m mr n nr ŋ>
<r rr> or <r̈ r̈r> to disambiguate
<tsḥ ts dz tsḥr tsr tṣḥ tṣ dẓ tšḥ tš ž>
<f v fr vr s z sr ṣ ẓ š žh kh gh>
<r̀ w>
<l ł>
/iː uː u ɪ e eː ə əː o oː ɐ äː/ <ii uu u ì e ee ê êê ou ouou a aa>
/ĩː ũː ũ ɪ̃ ɛ̃ ɛ̃ː ə̃ ə̃ː ɔ̃ ɔ̃ː ɐ̃ ä̃ː/ <ĩĩ ũũ ũ ì̃ ẽ ẽẽ ễ ễễ o oo ã ãã>
/V˧ V˩/ <V V>
freenžhìã ṣaarìŋ iižhlre iilozã ṣaarìŋ taalkrêf, ouou iižh tsḥiidrũũ loghaṣ,
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ìtsanso, God In The Mountain, may our names inspire the deepest feelings of fear in urkos and all his ilk, for we have saved another man from his lies! I welcome back to the feast hall kal, who will never gamble again! May the eleven gods bless him!
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Re: Romanization challenge thread
/p b t d kʲ ɡʲ k͡ʟ̥ kʷ ɡʷ k͡ʟ̥ʷ q ɢ qʷ ɢʷ/ <p b t d ky gy kl kv gv klv q qg q qgv>
/s z ʃ ʒ ʒʷ ʟ̥ ʟ̥ʷ χ χʷ ʁ ʁʷ h/ <s z sh zh zhv l lv kh khv gh ghv h>
/m n ŋ r w j/ <m n ng r v y>
/t͡s t͡ʃ t͡ʃʷ/ <c ch chv>
/i iː e eː a aː o oː u uː ə/ <i ii e ee a aa o oo u uu ĕ>
/tʃʷa:ro saχʃini məkʟʷedis da bʁu:ŋən qʷət gʲʒʷenaj ɢiʟ̥tʃni χatsma pakʲun wi/
Chvaaro sakhshini mĕklvedis da bghuungĕn qvĕt gyzhvenay qgilchni khacma pakyun vi.
/s z ʃ ʒ ʒʷ ʟ̥ ʟ̥ʷ χ χʷ ʁ ʁʷ h/ <s z sh zh zhv l lv kh khv gh ghv h>
/m n ŋ r w j/ <m n ng r v y>
/t͡s t͡ʃ t͡ʃʷ/ <c ch chv>
/i iː e eː a aː o oː u uː ə/ <i ii e ee a aa o oo u uu ĕ>
/tʃʷa:ro saχʃini məkʟʷedis da bʁu:ŋən qʷət gʲʒʷenaj ɢiʟ̥tʃni χatsma pakʲun wi/
Chvaaro sakhshini mĕklvedis da bghuungĕn qvĕt gyzhvenay qgilchni khacma pakyun vi.
næn:älʉː
Re: Romanization challenge thread
Consonants:
/pʰ~p͡xʰ p~p͡x b~bə pʰʲ~pʰʲj pʲ~pʲj bʲ~bʲj tʰ~t͡xʰ t~t͡x d~də tʰʲ~tʰʲj tʲ~tʲj dʲ~dʲj kʰ~k͡xʰ k~k͡x g~g͡ɣ kʰʲ~kʰʲj c͡ç~c ɟ͡ʝ~ɟ ʔ/
<ph p b ph̃ p̃ b̃ ṭ t d ṭj tj dj kh k g kh̃ k̃ g̃ '>
/m~mə mʲ~mʲj n~nə nʲ~nʲj~ɲ ŋ/ <m m̃ n ny ŋ>
/ɾ~ɾə ɹ~ɹj~ʐ̺~z~ə/ <rr r>
/t͡sʰː~t͡sʰːx t͡s~t͡sx d͡z t͡sʰʲː~t͡sʰʲːj t͡sʲ~t͡sʲj t͡ʂ̺ʰː t͡ʂ̺ d͡ʐ̺ t͡ɕ̻ʰː t͡ɕ̻ d͡ʑ̻/ <ṭs ts dz ṭ̃s t̃s d̃z>
/f~f͡x v~və fʲ~fʲj vʲ~vʲj s~s͡x z sʲ~sʲj ʂ̺ ʐ̺ ɕ̻ ʑ̻ x ɣ / <f v f̃ ṽ s z s̃ s̱ ẕ š ž x ḡ>
/j w/ <y w>
/lʲ~lʲj~ʎ ɫ~ɫ͡ə/ <ly l>
Vowels:
/ɪ u e ə o ɐ/ <í ú i ɨ u a>
/i: u: e: ə: o: ä:/ <é ó e ə o ä>
/ɪ̃ ĩ: ũ ũ: ɛ̃ ɛ̃: ə̃˩ ə̃:˩ ɔ̃ ɔ̃: ɐ̃ ä̃:/ <î ê û ô è...>
/ɪ˩ u˩ e˩ ə˩ o˩ ɐ˩/ <í̱...>
/i:˩ u:˩ e:˩ ə:˩ o:˩ ä:˩/ <é̱...>
/ɪ̃˩ ĩ:˩ ũ˩ ũ˩: ɛ̃˩ ɛ̃˩: ɔ̃˩ ɔ̃˩: ɐ̃˩ ä̃˩:/ <î̱...>
An actual sentence:
/fe:nʲɪʐ̺ɐ̃ ʂ̺ä:jɪŋ i:ʑ̻lʲjeʔ i:ɫozɐ̃ ʂ̺ä:jɪŋ tä:lʲkʲəf, o:˩ i:ʑ̻ t͡sʰːxi:dʲjũ˩: lɔ̃ɣɐʂ̺/
Fenyiẕà s̱äyíŋ éžlyi' eluzà s̱äyíŋ tälk̃ɨf, o̱ éž ṭsédjô̱ lùḡas̱.
/pʰ~p͡xʰ p~p͡x b~bə pʰʲ~pʰʲj pʲ~pʲj bʲ~bʲj tʰ~t͡xʰ t~t͡x d~də tʰʲ~tʰʲj tʲ~tʲj dʲ~dʲj kʰ~k͡xʰ k~k͡x g~g͡ɣ kʰʲ~kʰʲj c͡ç~c ɟ͡ʝ~ɟ ʔ/
<ph p b ph̃ p̃ b̃ ṭ t d ṭj tj dj kh k g kh̃ k̃ g̃ '>
/m~mə mʲ~mʲj n~nə nʲ~nʲj~ɲ ŋ/ <m m̃ n ny ŋ>
/ɾ~ɾə ɹ~ɹj~ʐ̺~z~ə/ <rr r>
/t͡sʰː~t͡sʰːx t͡s~t͡sx d͡z t͡sʰʲː~t͡sʰʲːj t͡sʲ~t͡sʲj t͡ʂ̺ʰː t͡ʂ̺ d͡ʐ̺ t͡ɕ̻ʰː t͡ɕ̻ d͡ʑ̻/ <ṭs ts dz ṭ̃s t̃s d̃z>
/f~f͡x v~və fʲ~fʲj vʲ~vʲj s~s͡x z sʲ~sʲj ʂ̺ ʐ̺ ɕ̻ ʑ̻ x ɣ / <f v f̃ ṽ s z s̃ s̱ ẕ š ž x ḡ>
/j w/ <y w>
/lʲ~lʲj~ʎ ɫ~ɫ͡ə/ <ly l>
Vowels:
/ɪ u e ə o ɐ/ <í ú i ɨ u a>
/i: u: e: ə: o: ä:/ <é ó e ə o ä>
/ɪ̃ ĩ: ũ ũ: ɛ̃ ɛ̃: ə̃˩ ə̃:˩ ɔ̃ ɔ̃: ɐ̃ ä̃:/ <î ê û ô è...>
/ɪ˩ u˩ e˩ ə˩ o˩ ɐ˩/ <í̱...>
/i:˩ u:˩ e:˩ ə:˩ o:˩ ä:˩/ <é̱...>
/ɪ̃˩ ĩ:˩ ũ˩ ũ˩: ɛ̃˩ ɛ̃˩: ɔ̃˩ ɔ̃˩: ɐ̃˩ ä̃˩:/ <î̱...>
An actual sentence:
/fe:nʲɪʐ̺ɐ̃ ʂ̺ä:jɪŋ i:ʑ̻lʲjeʔ i:ɫozɐ̃ ʂ̺ä:jɪŋ tä:lʲkʲəf, o:˩ i:ʑ̻ t͡sʰːxi:dʲjũ˩: lɔ̃ɣɐʂ̺/
Fenyiẕà s̱äyíŋ éžlyi' eluzà s̱äyíŋ tälk̃ɨf, o̱ éž ṭsédjô̱ lùḡas̱.
Re: Romanization challenge thread
Consonants:
/pʰ~p͡xʰ p~p͡x b~bə pʰʲ~pʰʲj pʲ~pʲj bʲ~bʲj tʰ~t͡xʰ t~t͡x d~də tʰʲ~tʰʲj tʲ~tʲj dʲ~dʲj kʰ~k͡xʰ k~k͡x g~g͡ɣ kʰʲ~kʰʲj c͡ç~c ɟ͡ʝ~ɟ ʔ/
<ph p b ph' p' b' th t d th' t' d' kh k g kh' k' g' q>
/m~mə mʲ~mʲj n~nə nʲ~nʲj~ɲ ŋ/ <m m' n n' ng>
/ɾ~ɾə ɹ~ɹj~ʐ̺~z~ə/ <r r'>
/t͡sʰː~t͡sʰːx t͡s~t͡sx d͡z t͡sʰʲː~t͡sʰʲːj t͡sʲ~t͡sʲj t͡ʂ̺ʰː t͡ʂ̺ d͡ʐ̺ t͡ɕ̻ʰː t͡ɕ̻ d͡ʑ̻/ <ths ts dz ths' ts' dz' thr tr dr ch' ch j>
/f~f͡x v~və fʲ~fʲj vʲ~vʲj s~s͡x z sʲ~sʲj ʂ̺ ʐ̺ ɕ̻ ʑ̻ x ɣ/ <f v f' v' s z s' sh zh sh' zh' x gh>
/j w/ <y w>
/lʲ~lʲj~ʎ ɫ~ɫ͡ə/ <l' l>
Vowels:
/ɪ u e ə o ɐ/ <i u e a o aa>
/i: u: e: ə: o: ä:/ <ii uu ee ae oo oa>
/ɪ̃ ĩ: ũ ũ: ɛ̃ ɛ̃: ə̃˩ ə̃:˩ ɔ̃ ɔ̃: ɐ̃ ä̃:/ <ih iih...>
/ɪ˩ u˩ e˩ ə˩ o˩ ɐ˩/ <i: u: e: a: o: aa:>
/i:˩ u:˩ e:˩ ə:˩ o:˩ ä:˩/ <ii: uu: ee: ae: oo: oa:>
/ɪ̃˩ ĩ:˩ ũ˩ ũ˩: ɛ̃˩ ɛ̃˩: ɔ̃˩ ɔ̃˩: ɐ̃˩ ä̃˩:/ <i:h ii:h...>
Nasal vowels and vowel + nasal sequences contrast, geminated consonants are common. Palatalised consonant and consonant + /j/ sequences never contrast, just like non-palatalised consonant and consonant + /x/ sequences - same as on Ilos. Also, all first vowels in a word are always long except in recent borrowings and /ɣ/ never occurs anywhere except before a vowel.
An actual sentence:
/fe:nʲɪʐ̺ɐ̃ ʂ̺ä:jɪŋ i:ʑ̻lʲjeʔ i:ɫozɐ̃ ʂ̺ä:jɪŋ tä:lʲkʲəf, o:˩ i:ʑ̻ t͡sʰːxi:dʲjũ˩: lɔ̃ɣɐʂ̺/
Fen'izhah shaaying izhl'eq ilozah shaaying taalk'af, o: izh' thsid'uu:h lohghash.
/pʰ~p͡xʰ p~p͡x b~bə pʰʲ~pʰʲj pʲ~pʲj bʲ~bʲj tʰ~t͡xʰ t~t͡x d~də tʰʲ~tʰʲj tʲ~tʲj dʲ~dʲj kʰ~k͡xʰ k~k͡x g~g͡ɣ kʰʲ~kʰʲj c͡ç~c ɟ͡ʝ~ɟ ʔ/
<ph p b ph' p' b' th t d th' t' d' kh k g kh' k' g' q>
/m~mə mʲ~mʲj n~nə nʲ~nʲj~ɲ ŋ/ <m m' n n' ng>
/ɾ~ɾə ɹ~ɹj~ʐ̺~z~ə/ <r r'>
/t͡sʰː~t͡sʰːx t͡s~t͡sx d͡z t͡sʰʲː~t͡sʰʲːj t͡sʲ~t͡sʲj t͡ʂ̺ʰː t͡ʂ̺ d͡ʐ̺ t͡ɕ̻ʰː t͡ɕ̻ d͡ʑ̻/ <ths ts dz ths' ts' dz' thr tr dr ch' ch j>
/f~f͡x v~və fʲ~fʲj vʲ~vʲj s~s͡x z sʲ~sʲj ʂ̺ ʐ̺ ɕ̻ ʑ̻ x ɣ/ <f v f' v' s z s' sh zh sh' zh' x gh>
/j w/ <y w>
/lʲ~lʲj~ʎ ɫ~ɫ͡ə/ <l' l>
Vowels:
/ɪ u e ə o ɐ/ <i u e a o aa>
/i: u: e: ə: o: ä:/ <ii uu ee ae oo oa>
/ɪ̃ ĩ: ũ ũ: ɛ̃ ɛ̃: ə̃˩ ə̃:˩ ɔ̃ ɔ̃: ɐ̃ ä̃:/ <ih iih...>
/ɪ˩ u˩ e˩ ə˩ o˩ ɐ˩/ <i: u: e: a: o: aa:>
/i:˩ u:˩ e:˩ ə:˩ o:˩ ä:˩/ <ii: uu: ee: ae: oo: oa:>
/ɪ̃˩ ĩ:˩ ũ˩ ũ˩: ɛ̃˩ ɛ̃˩: ɔ̃˩ ɔ̃˩: ɐ̃˩ ä̃˩:/ <i:h ii:h...>
Nasal vowels and vowel + nasal sequences contrast, geminated consonants are common. Palatalised consonant and consonant + /j/ sequences never contrast, just like non-palatalised consonant and consonant + /x/ sequences - same as on Ilos. Also, all first vowels in a word are always long except in recent borrowings and /ɣ/ never occurs anywhere except before a vowel.
An actual sentence:
/fe:nʲɪʐ̺ɐ̃ ʂ̺ä:jɪŋ i:ʑ̻lʲjeʔ i:ɫozɐ̃ ʂ̺ä:jɪŋ tä:lʲkʲəf, o:˩ i:ʑ̻ t͡sʰːxi:dʲjũ˩: lɔ̃ɣɐʂ̺/
Fen'izhah shaaying izhl'eq ilozah shaaying taalk'af, o: izh' thsid'uu:h lohghash.