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PostPosted: Sat Aug 12, 2017 3:41 pm 
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How would I go about deriving a language using tri-consonantal roots from a language that does not have them? Some that I have seen, such as the Semitic languages, derive from Proto-Afro-Asiatic, which had bi-consonantal roots, but how could this be done with a language that lacks any consonantal roots?


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 12, 2017 3:59 pm 
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In other such threads, people have recommended reading this

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 12, 2017 7:12 pm 
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I found this book very helpful.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 13, 2017 8:17 pm 
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gokupwned5 wrote:
Some that I have seen, such as the Semitic languages, derive from Proto-Afro-Asiatic, which had bi-consonantal roots

FYI: This is one of those pesky theories that flloats around, sounds nice and interesting, offers an answer to an unknown thing, and is spread around by hobbyists who don't have enough information to reject it, but that few scholars actually accept.

More likely what seems to have happened was:
1) Extreme ablaut after Proto-Afro-Asiatic but before Proto-Semitic, with no traceable details about these intermittent stages
2) Vowel reduction and vocalic epenthesis
3) Extreme leveling**

** Note that this extreme leveling is the half-truth that led to the slightly-fringe theory that the triconsonantal root system was derived from a biconsonantal root system. There were many words that originally had only two consonants, and were later extended into triconsonantal roots (through various methods) to force them to conform to the paradigm. The vast majority of roots do not reflect this phenomenon, and there is no evidence that holds up to scrutiny that suggests that they do.

Two or three years ago, I wrote a series of posts advising someone how triconsonantal natlangs work, and how to make their triconsonantal conlang more realistic. Let's see if I can locate them and link the thread here. I do recall my main suggestions were:
1) model the triconsonantal conlang on a triconsonantal natlang,
2) attempt to adjust it enough to make it unique,
3) create a thread seeking feedback and advice.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 13, 2017 8:39 pm 
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Not quite as grand as I remembered, but here is the first post I gave with generic advice. Subsequent posts also give advice, but are tailored to advise about a specific conlang.

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