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PostPosted: Thu Apr 20, 2017 8:02 pm 
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Seed 1989477703: /u a æ/ for the vowels.

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That's quite a startling vowel set!

This one caught my eye a while back:
seed 1211814913. I struggle with theAttempting the three velar lateral stops (highlighted).


Phonemic inventory
Consonants

m, n̻, mb, tʰ̻, t̻, nd̻, kʰ, k, ŋg, k͡xʰˡ, k͡xˡ, ŋg͡ɣˡ, f, h, ɹ̻, , ʟ

Vowels

i, ĩ, u, ũ, ɛ, ɛ̃, ɔ, ɔ̃, a, ã



Syllable structure
(C1)(C2)V(C3)(C4)
C1: a consonant other than a consonant lateral (/ŋg͡ɣˡ k͡xʰˡ k͡xˡ ʟ/)
C2: a consonant
V: a vowel
C3: a consonant other than a consonant lateral (/ŋg͡ɣˡ k͡xʰˡ k͡xˡ ʟ/)
C4: a velar consonant; i.e. one of /ŋg kʰ k ŋg͡ɣˡ k͡xʰˡ k͡xˡ ʟ/

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Gleb question: Let's say I use gleb to generate a phonology. Then, I use a word generator to make some new underlying forms from the phonological inventory. Now I want to generate the corresponding surface forms. Is there a way gleb can do this for me, or will I have to use another sound change applier and type in all of that gleb seed's allophony rules?


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 Post subject: Re: The glebst of Gleb
PostPosted: Fri Jun 02, 2017 11:04 pm 
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As far as I'm aware, gleb cannot do that.

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Pogostick Man wrote:
As far as I'm aware, gleb cannot do that.

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The might of gleb surpasses the imagination of mere mortals.

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PRAISE THE GLEB

This actually made me think about a hypothetical post-Clarkeian society worshiping a conlang-generating AI as their lord and switching to the most recently generated language as a part of the worship.

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 Post subject: Re: The glebst of Gleb
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Ladies and gentlemen, this is it. We've hit peak gleb. Call in a 5152 on the online version, because I think it dropped some bad acid. I present to you the phonology and allophony of seed 1157342009.

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Nasal mʰ̥ m mˤ nʰ̥ n nˤ ɲʰ̥ ɲ ŋʰ̥ ŋ ŋʰʷ̥ ŋʷ ŋˤ ŋʷˤ ɴʰ̥ ɴ ɴʰʷ̥ ɴʷ ɴˤ ɴʷˤ
Prenasalised stop mpʰ mb ntʰ nd nt͡ɕʰ nd͡ʑ ŋkʰ ŋg ŋkʰʷ ŋgʷ ɴqʰ ɴɢ ɴqʰʷ ɴɢʷ
Stop pʰ p pʼ b bˤ tʰ t tʼ d dˤ t͡ɕʰ t͡ɕ t͡ɕʼ d͡ʑ kʰ k kʼ g kʰʷ kʷ kʼʷ gʷ gˤ gʷˤ qʰ q qʼ ɢ qʰʷ qʷ qʼʷ ɢʷ ɢˤ ɢʷˤ
Fricative s ɕ x xʷ χ χʷ h
Resonant ɾ j ʎ w

Vowels
Front Central Back
High i u
Mid-high e o
Low a
Syllable structure

(C1)V(C2)

C1: a consonant
V: a vowel
C2: one of /mʰ̥ m mˤ nʰ̥ n nˤ ɲʰ̥ ɲ ŋʰ̥ ŋ ŋʰʷ̥ ŋʷ ŋˤ ŋʷˤ ɴʰ̥ ɴ ɴʰʷ̥ ɴʷ ɴˤ ɴʷˤ mpʰ mb ntʰ nd ŋkʰ ŋg ŋkʰʷ ŋgʷ pʰ p pʼ b bˤ tʰ t tʼ d dˤ kʰ k kʼ kʰʷ kʷ kʼʷ ɢ ɢʷ ɢˤ ɢʷˤ nt͡ɕʰ nd͡ʑ t͡ɕʰ t͡ɕ t͡ɕʼ d͡ʑ s ɕ χ χʷ h ɾ j ʎ w/

Allophony

Alveolar voiced nasals [n nˤ] become non-lateral non-nasal taps [ɾ ɾˤ] before an alveolar tap.
Alveolar voiced nasals [n nˤ] become non-lateral non-nasal taps [ɾ ɾˤ] before an alveolar tap.
Alveopalatal affricates [nd͡ʑ nt͡ɕʰ d͡ʑ ...] persistently become non-affricate non-coronal palatal [ɲɟ ɲcʰ ɟ ...] before a palatal nasal.
Unaspirated stops [mb tʼ gʷˤ ...] assimilate in voice to a following obstruent and become voiceless word-finally. Before a voiced stop, ejective stops become non-ejective.
Dorsal obstruents or nasals [ɲʰ̥ ŋkʰʷ gʷ ...] become bilabial [ɲ͡mʰ̥ ŋ͡mk͡pʰʷ g͡bʷ ...] before a bilabial stop or nasal or word-finally. Fricatives become non-dorsal.
Short voiced stops [ɲ͡mɟ͡b ɟ͡b dˤ ...] become voiceless [ɲ͡mc͡p c͡p tˤ ...] before a voiceless glottal fricative.
[ŋ͡mʰ̥ ŋ͡m mʰ̥ m ŋʰ̥ ŋ ŋ͡mk͡pʰ ŋ͡mk͡p ŋ͡mg͡b mpʰ mp mb ŋkʰ ŋk ŋg k͡pʰ k͡p k͡pʼ g͡b pʰ p pʼ b kʰ k kʼ g nt͡ɕʰ nt͡ɕ nd͡ʑ t͡ɕʰ t͡ɕ t͡ɕʼ d͡ʑ ɸˠ ɸˠʷ ɕ x h ʎ] assimilate in palatalisation to a following consonant. Before a front consonant, [ɸˠʷ] become [ɸʷ].
High vowels and semivowels [j w i u] persistently become non-high [e̯ o̯ e o] before a pharyngealised consonant.
High vowels and semivowels [j w i u] become non-high [e̯ o̯ e o] before a pharyngealised consonant.
Ejective stops [c͡pʼ pʼ kʼʷ ...] persistently become non-ejective [c͡p p kʷ ...] before a non-nasal phone except for a non-nasal vowel or resonant.
Non-front vowels other than [a], i.e. [u o], become central [ɨ ɘ] before a non-back semivowel.
Palatal obstruents or nasals [ɲ͡m ɲ͡mɟ͡b cʼ ...] persistently become alveopalatal [ṉʲ nd͡ʑ t͡ɕʼ ...] before a palatoalveolar obstruent. Stops become affricates; bilabial stops or nasals become non-bilabial.
[ɨ ɘ] persistently become [ɯ ɤ] before a pharyngealised consonant.
Coronal consonants [nʰ̥ d t͡ʃʼ ...] persistently assimilate in laminality to a following coronal consonant. Before an apical consonant, laminal obstruents or nasals become alveolar; alveopalatal obstruents or nasals become non-front.
Coronal consonants [nʰ̻̥ tˤ̻ t͡s ...] persistently assimilate in laminality to a following coronal consonant. Before an apical consonant, palatoalveolar obstruents or nasals become alveolar; alveopalatal obstruents or nasals become non-front.
Coronal consonants [nʰ̻̥ tʰ d͡z̻ ...] persistently assimilate in laminality to a following coronal consonant. Before an apical consonant, palatoalveolar obstruents or nasals become alveolar; alveopalatal obstruents or nasals become non-front.
Non-ejective unaspirated stops [ɲ͡mc͡p g͡b k ...] persistently become aspirated [ɲ͡mc͡pʰ k͡pʰ kʰ ...] after an aspirated consonant. Voiced stops become voiceless.
Unrounded consonants [ɲ͡mʰ̥ ŋg kˤ ...] become rounded [ŋ͡mʰʷ̥ ŋgʷ kʷˤ ...] after a rounded consonant. Front consonants become non-front; non-back dorsal consonants become back.
Vowels and semivowels other than [a], i.e. [j i e ...], persistently become lax [ɪ̯ ɪ ɛ ...] after a pharyngealised consonant.
Front vowels and semivowels [j e̯ ɪ ...] become non-front [∅ ∅ ɪ̈ ...] after an uvular obstruent or nasal. Semivowels are deleted.
Dorsal obstruents or nasals [ɲ͡mʰ̥ ɴ͡mɢ͡bʷ q͡pʰˤ ...] persistently assimilate in uvularity to a following dorsal obstruent or nasal. Before an uvular obstruent or nasal, palatal obstruents or nasals become uvular.
Non-ejective stops [ɲ͡mc͡pʰ g͡bˤ kʷ ...] assimilate in aspiration to a following consonant other than resonant and become unaspirated word-finally. Before an aspirated consonant, voiced stops become voiceless.
Unrounded consonants [ɲ͡mʰ̥ ɴqʰ gˤ ...] become rounded [ŋ͡mʰʷ̥ ɴqʰʷ gʷˤ ...] before a rounded consonant. Front consonants become non-front; non-back dorsal consonants become back.
Tense vowels and semivowels [j i e ...] persistently become lax [ɪ̯ ɪ ɛ ...] before a pharyngealised consonant.
Non-sibilant coronal alveolar stops [ntʰ̻ t̻ tʰ ...] become sibilants [nt͡sʰ̻ t͡s̻ t͡sʰ ...] before a non-nasal coronal fricative.
[nʰ̻̥ n̻ nʰʷ̻̥ nʷ̻ nˤ̻ nʷˤ̻ ṉʰʷ̥ ṉʷ ṉʰʲ̥ ṉʲ ntʰ̻ nt̻ nd̻ ntʰʷ̻ ntʷ̻ ndʷ̻ ntʰ nt nd ntʰʷ ntʷ ndʷ tʰ̻ t̻ tʼ̻ d̻ tʰʷ̻ tʷ̻ tʼʷ̻ dʷ̻ tʰˤ̻ tˤ̻ dˤ̻ tʰʷˤ̻ tʷˤ̻ dʷˤ̻ tʰ t tʼ d tʰʷ tʷ tʼʷ dʷ tʰˤ tˤ dˤ tʰʷˤ tʷˤ dʷˤ nt͡sʰ̻ nt͡s̻ nd͡z̻ nt͡sʰʷ̻ nt͡sʷ̻ nd͡zʷ̻ nt͡ʃʰ nt͡ʃ nd͡ʒ nt͡ʃʰʷ nt͡ʃʷ nd͡ʒʷ nt͡ɕʰ nt͡ɕ nd͡ʑ t͡sʰ̻ t͡s̻ t͡sʼ̻ d͡z̻ t͡sʰʷ̻ t͡sʷ̻ t͡sʼʷ̻ d͡zʷ̻ t͡sʰˤ̻ t͡sˤ̻ d͡zˤ̻ t͡sʰʷˤ̻ t͡sʷˤ̻ d͡zʷˤ̻ t͡ʃʰ t͡ʃ t͡ʃʼ d͡ʒ t͡ʃʰʷ t͡ʃʷ t͡ʃʼʷ d͡ʒʷ t͡ɕʰ t͡ɕ t͡ɕʼ d͡ʑ s̻ sʷ̻ ʃ ʃʷ ɕ ɾ̻ ɾʷ̻ ɾˤ̻ ɾʷˤ̻] persistently assimilate in anteriority and retroflexion to a following obstruent sibilant. Before a palatoalveolar obstruent, apical stops become alveolar; non-sibilant coronal stops become affricate sibilants; taps become alveolar apical.
[nʰ̻̥ n̻ nʰʷ̻̥ nʷ̻ nˤ̻ nʷˤ̻ nʰʲ̻̥ nʲ̻ ṉʰ̥ ṉ ṉʰʷ̥ ṉʷ ṉˤ ṉʷˤ ṉʰʲ̥ ṉʲ ntʰ̻ nt̻ nd̻ ntʰʷ̻ ntʷ̻ ndʷ̻ ntʰ nt nd ntʰʷ ntʷ ndʷ tʰ̻ t̻ tʼ̻ d̻ tʰʷ̻ tʷ̻ tʼʷ̻ dʷ̻ tʰˤ̻ tˤ̻ dˤ̻ tʰʷˤ̻ tʷˤ̻ dʷˤ̻ tʰ t tʼ d tʰʷ tʷ tʼʷ dʷ tʰˤ tˤ dˤ tʰʷˤ tʷˤ dʷˤ nt͡sʰ̻ nt͡s̻ nd͡z̻ nt͡sʰʷ̻ nt͡sʷ̻ nd͡zʷ̻ nt͡sʰʲ̻ nt͡sʲ̻ nd͡zʲ̻ nt͡ʃʰ nt͡ʃ nd͡ʒ nt͡ʃʰʷ nt͡ʃʷ nd͡ʒʷ nt͡ɕʰ nt͡ɕ nd͡ʑ t͡sʰ̻ t͡s̻ t͡sʼ̻ d͡z̻ t͡sʰʷ̻ t͡sʷ̻ t͡sʼʷ̻ d͡zʷ̻ t͡sʰˤ̻ t͡sˤ̻ d͡zˤ̻ t͡sʰʷˤ̻ t͡sʷˤ̻ d͡zʷˤ̻ t͡sʰʲ̻ t͡sʲ̻ t͡sʼʲ̻ d͡zʲ̻ t͡ʃʰ t͡ʃ t͡ʃʼ d͡ʒ t͡ʃʰʷ t͡ʃʷ t͡ʃʼʷ d͡ʒʷ t͡ʃʰˤ t͡ʃˤ d͡ʒˤ t͡ʃʰʷˤ t͡ʃʷˤ d͡ʒʷˤ t͡ɕʰ t͡ɕ t͡ɕʼ d͡ʑ s̻ sʷ̻ sʲ̻ ʃ ʃʷ ɕ ɾ̻ ɾʷ̻ ɾˤ̻ ɾʷˤ̻] persistently assimilate in anteriority and retroflexion to a following coronal consonant other than non-affricate stop or nasal. Before a palatoalveolar obstruent, apical stops become alveolar; non-sibilant coronal stops become affricate sibilants; taps become alveolar apical.
Unrounded consonants [ɲ͡mʰ̥ ɴɢ nd͡z̻ ...] become rounded [ŋ͡mʰʷ̥ ɴɢʷ nd͡zʷ̻ ...] after a high rounded vowel or semivowel. Front consonants become non-front; non-back dorsal consonants become back.
Non-ejective unaspirated voiceless stops [ɲ͡mc͡p q͡pʷ qˤ ...] become aspirated [ɲ͡mc͡pʰ q͡pʰʷ qʰˤ ...] before a glottal fricative.
Before a pharyngealised consonant, [h hʷ hʲ] become [ħ ħʷ j].
Nasals [ɲ͡mʰ̥ mʷˤ ṉʰʷ̥ ...] persistently become nasals and assimilate in place of articulation to a following obstruent or nasal. Before a front obstruent or nasal, pharyngealised nasals become non-pharyngealised and assimilate in place of articulation.
Voiceless stops [ɲ͡mc͡pʰ q͡pʰʷˤ qˤ ...] assimilate in glottalisation to a preceding non-nasal consonant other than resonant. After an ejective stop, aspirated stops become unaspirated.
Back vowels [ɯ ʊ̜ o ...] become central [ɨ ɪ̈ ɘ ...] after a front consonant. Rounded vowels become unrounded.

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 Post subject: Re: The glebst of Gleb
PostPosted: Sun Jul 09, 2017 1:17 am 
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The vowel system of seed 2113634539 (online version):

ŋʲ̩ ŋ̩ˤ̟ ŋ̩ ŋ̩ˤ ŋ̩ʷ ŋ̩ʷˤ
i ɪ̈ˤ ɯ ʊ̜ˤ u ʊˤ
a ã aˤ ãˤ ɒ ɒ̃ ɒˤ ɒ̃ˤ

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 Post subject: Re: The glebst of Gleb
PostPosted: Sun Jul 16, 2017 10:39 am 
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Pogostick Man wrote:
The vowel system of seed 2113634539 (online version):

ŋʲ̩ ŋ̩ˤ̟ ŋ̩ ŋ̩ˤ ŋ̩ʷ ŋ̩ʷˤ
i ɪ̈ˤ ɯ ʊ̜ˤ u ʊˤ
a ã aˤ ãˤ ɒ ɒ̃ ɒˤ ɒ̃ˤ

Absolutely beautiful. It is like Gleb generated a deeply sorrowful siren's song inside its digital lair.

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How do I get Gleb to run? When trying to run it from the command line I get this:
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Can't locate YAML/Any.pm in @INC (you may need to install the YAML::Any module) (@INC contains: C:\Users\Admin\Desktop\YAML-1.23\YAML-1.23 C:/Perl64/site/lib C:/Perl64/lib .) at C:\Users\Admin\Desktop\Gleb\phonology\gleb.pl line 14.
BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at C:\Users\Admin\Desktop\Gleb\phonology\gleb.pl line 14.

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Holy bologna, seed 1180307026 is Amazing.

Consonants:
/p b t̪ d̪ t d ʈ̪ ɖ̪ k k͡p g͡b q q͡p ɢ͡b ʔ/
/mp nnt ɳʈ̪ ŋk ŋ͡mk͡p ɴq ɴ͡mq͡p/
/f s̪ s ʃ x χ/
/ɾ ɽ j w/
/m n̪ n ŋ ŋ͡m ɴ ɴ͡m/

Vowels:
/i ɯ ɛ̃ ʌ̃ ɔ̃ ɑ ɑ̃/

Syllable Structure:
(C)V(K)
When K is one of /ŋ͡m ɴ͡m m n̪ n ŋ ɴ ŋ͡mk͡p ɴ͡mq͡p mp nt ɳʈ̪ ŋk ɴq ɾ ɽ w/

It looks like the illegitimate child of Classical Arabic and Yélî Dnye and I flöpping love it.


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 14, 2017 2:10 pm 
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I reroll once, I get pseudo-Japanese (1304761366):
Consonants:
/p b t d k g/
/s z h/
/r ɰ/
/m n/

Vowels:
/i a ã u/

Syllable Structure:
(C)V(C)

I reroll again, I get this eldritch abomination of a phonology (2114745513):
Consonants:
/pʰ p b ɓ̰ pʰʲ pʲ bʲ ɓ̰ʲ tʰ t d ɗ̰ t͡ɬʰ t͡ɬ d͡ɮ tʰʲ tʲ dʲ ɗ̰ʲ t͡ɬʰʲ t͡ɬʲ d͡ɮʲ cʰ c ɟ kʰ k g/
/f fʲ s ɬ sʲ ɬʲ ç x/
/ʋ ʋʲ ɾ ɹ l l̰ ɹʲ lʲ l̰ʲ j j̃ w/
/m mʲ n nʲ/

Vowels:
/i y ʉ u a/

Syllable Structure:
(C)V

This one looks like some godforsaken nigh-extinct language spoken in Siberia or Central Asia.


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 15, 2017 1:13 pm 
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Seed 1580861765: umm...
Consonants:
/p pʰ t t͡p tʰ t͡pʰ t͡ʃ t͡ʃ͡p͡ɸ t͡ʃʰ t͡ʃ͡p͡ɸʰ k kʰ k͡p k͡pʰ/
/f s s͡f ʃ ʃ͡f x h/
/l lʷ ɾ ɾʷ r rʷ j w/
/m n n͡m ɲ ɲ͡m ŋ ŋ͡m/

Vowels:
/i a u/

Syllable Structure:
(C)V

I can forgive the high density of bilabial-velars and bilabial-alveolars, but t͡ʃ͡p͡ɸ? What the actual f0ck is that?
That is yet another proof that the almighty being known as GLEB need not obey to the phonological constraints of mere mortals.


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