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PostPosted: Fri Feb 09, 2018 4:48 pm 
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jal wrote:
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I am not Travis, but Russian linguists do the same in Caucasian languages.

Mi swel in no Trabis, oba mi sapway dem in tek Saralik fi dis.
I'm also no Travis, but I'm surprised they don't use Cyrillic for this.


Els usentz ést si schreiventz en anglés.
They use this when writing in English.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 09, 2018 5:34 pm 
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C'iz ǰirmą romąc'ə bugo lahę teyęri nə?
DIST.SF German Romance bogo language equals.IPFV-A:3SF-P:3SF INT
[ˈtsʼiz ˈdʐiɾmã ˈɾomãtsʼə ˈbugo ˈlahɛ̃ ˈtʰejɛ̃ɾi nə]
Is that a German Romance bogolanguage?

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 09, 2018 10:39 pm 
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⟨dz⟩ əc ⟨dž⟩-lo mesayę ⟨ʒ⟩ əc ⟨ǯ⟩ ləśboxò.
⟨dz⟩ and ⟨dž⟩=INST good-COMP-PF ⟨ʒ⟩ and ⟨ǯ⟩ like.IPFV-A:1S-P:3PF
[ˈdza ətsʰ ˈdʐalo ˈmesajɛ̃ ˈdza ətsʰ ˈdʐa ˈləɕboχɔ]
I like ⟨ʒ⟩ and ⟨ǯ⟩ better than ⟨dz⟩ and ⟨dž⟩.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2018 1:41 am 
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⟨ts⟩ mori-ča ⟨c⟩ nęcəri huyowə yòča ⟨dz⟩ mori-ča ⟨ʒ⟩ nemori c'iča ⟨dz⟩ ⟨c⟩ šu q'arręri sak'ə ⟨ʒ⟩ ⟨c⟩ q'arręri.
⟨ts⟩ place-3SF=ALL ⟨c⟩ use.IPFV-GER-3SF be_able-A:1S-P:3SM so_that ⟨dz⟩ place-3SF=ALL ⟨ʒ⟩ use.IPFV-A:1S-P:3SF therefore ⟨dz⟩ ⟨c⟩ NEG be_like.IPFV-A:3SF-P:3SF but ⟨ʒ⟩ ⟨c⟩ be_like.IPFV-A:3SF-P:3SF.
[ˈtsʰa ˈmoɾitʂʰa ˈtsʰa ˈnɛ̃tsʰəɾi ˈhujowə ˈjɔtʂʰa ˈdza ˈmoɾitʂʰa ˈdza ˈnemoɾi ˈtsʼitʂʰa ˈdza ˈtsʰa ˈʂu ˈqʼarːɛ̃ɾi ˈsakʼə ˈdza ˈtsʰa ˈqʼarːɛ̃ɾi]
⟨ʒ⟩ is like ⟨c⟩ but ⟨dz⟩ is not like ⟨c⟩ therefore I use ⟨ʒ⟩ instead of ⟨dz⟩ so that I can use ⟨c⟩ instead of ⟨ts⟩.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2018 6:42 am 
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Vai si Maižneirë ja airoi Slaveirë <c> üs <dz> hingand, riššëł anfi vehškë albëng klaibëm.
[væ ɕi ˈmæʐnei̯ɾə ja ʔæɾoi̯ sləˈvei̯ɾə ˈtɒjæː ys daltəˈdɒjæː ˈhiŋganʔ, ˈɾiʂːəɭ anˈfi ˈveːʂkə ˈalbəŋ ˈklæbəm]
Pannonian and Slavic have <c> and <dz>, but really Pannonian has its own alphabet.

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Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei.


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2018 9:33 am 
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Kunaizi tod /dz/ lirek zanti loka, ku /ts/ rêai.
In Kunesian, /dz/ has its own character, but /ts/ doesn't.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2018 9:34 am 
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din wrote:
Vijay wrote:
Dē Graut Bʉr wrote:
masako wrote:
Dē Graut Bʉr wrote:
Finding something to write can be hard.

Kame duyimwa ta penimwa tai!
write-2s feel-PL-ACC CONJ think-PL-ACC 2s.GEN
Write your feelings and thoughts!

Pige ku namai loka dai.
Maybe I have none.

Grrowrrr?! Meow grrr grrooving?? Kaixe grrek meow grrr grrooving?
What?! Have no thoughts?? How can you be alive without thinking?

Coppa courin das methetten mie tior ithog
/ˈkopːa ˈkʏʊɾɪn dɛs ˈməθətːən mjə tɕoɹ ˈiθoʊ/
some seem-3P only inspire-3P REFL by.means.of impulse
Some people seem to be driven only by impulses

ya muheka
How sad.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2018 11:58 am 
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Travis B. wrote:
C'iz ǯirmą romąc'ə bugo lahę ġayęri nə?
DIST.SF German Romance bogo language equals.IPFV-A:3SF-P:3SF INT
[ˈtsʼiz ˈdʐiɾmã ˈɾomãtsʼə ˈbugo ˈlahɛ̃ ˈʁajɛ̃ɾi nə]
Is that a German Romance bogolanguage?


Sich. Est nom es "Roman Germanech". Es un projéct vézel.
Yes. Its name is "Roman Germanech". It is an old project.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2018 2:37 pm 
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Nortaneous wrote:
Vai si Maižneirë ja airoi Slaveirë <c> üs <dz> hingand, riššëł anfi vehškë albëng klaibëm.
[væ ɕi ˈmæʐnei̯ɾə ja ʔæɾoi̯ sləˈvei̯ɾə ˈtɒjæː ys daltəˈdɒjæː ˈhiŋganʔ, ˈɾiʂːəɭ anˈfi ˈveːʂkə ˈalbəŋ ˈklæbəm]
Pannonian and Slavic have <c> and <dz>, but really Pannonian has its own alphabet.


⟨c⟩ əc ⟨č⟩ əc ⟨ʒ⟩ əc ⟨ǯ⟩ romąsecə k'ahə sòxot teròwə.
⟨c⟩ and ⟨č⟩ and ⟨ʒ⟩ and ⟨ǯ⟩ Roman-CAUS-GER make.PFV-GER real one-ADV equals-A:3PF-P:3SM
[ˈtsʰa ətsʰ ˈtʂʰa ətsʰ ˈdza ətsʰ ˈdʐa ɾoˈmãsetsʰə ˈkʼahə ˈsɔχotʰ ˈtʰeɾɔwə]
⟨c⟩, ⟨č⟩, ⟨ʒ⟩, and ⟨ǯ⟩ are really just a romanization.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2018 3:18 pm 
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Sajiwan u tek <j> an <c> fi /dʒ/ an /tʃ/. /tʃ/ yus <ch>, oba di rayting tahn a dem yeh fay ten dem muf im op fi <c>.
Sajiwan uses <j> and <c> for /dʒ/ and /tʃ/. /tʃ/ used to be <ch>, but the spelling reform of the fifties replaced it by <c>.


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2018 4:11 pm 
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Sośte kod nąri-k'ə čirre ⟨ǰ⟩ šo ġayę sak'ə ⟨j⟩ əc ⟨ǰ⟩ /dz/ əc /dʐ/-re nemošò.
one-ADJ-SF code in-3SM=LOC big-SF ⟨ǰ⟩ NEG.SF exist.IPFV-S:SF bug ⟨j⟩ and ⟨ǰ⟩ /dz/ and /dʐ/=DAT use.IPFV-A:1S-SJV-P:3PF
[ˈsoɕte ˈkʰod ˈnãɾikʼə ˈtʂʰirːe ˈdʐa ʂo ˈʁajɛ̃ ˈsakʼə ˈdza ətsʰ ˈdʐa ˈdza ətsʰ ˈdʐaɾe ˈnemoʂɔ]
I would use ⟨j⟩ and ⟨ǰ⟩ for /dz/ and /dʐ/ but there is no capital ⟨ǰ⟩ in Unicode.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2018 4:53 pm 
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Travis B. wrote:
I would use ⟨j⟩ and ⟨ǰ⟩ for /dz/ and /dʐ/ but there is no capital ⟨ǰ⟩ in Unicode.

Ray, oba yu me geda bik <J> an karon sem dis: <J̌>.
True, but you can combine upper case <J> and caron like this: <J̌>.


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2018 6:07 pm 
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Lahęla romąsecri ⟨ʒ⟩ əc ⟨ǯ⟩ mòwə-ča ⟨j⟩ əc ⟨ǰ⟩ nęcaxò-re q'allori lè
language-1S Roman-CAUS-GER-3SF ⟨ʒ⟩ and ⟨ǯ⟩ place=ALL ⟨j⟩ and ⟨ǰ⟩ use.IPFV-GER-3PF=DAT change-A:1S-P:3SF PERF
[ˈlahɛ̃la ɾoˈmãsetsʰɾi ˈdza ətsʰ ˈdʐa ˈmɔwətʂʰa ˈdza ətsʰ ˈdʐa ˈnɛ̃tsaχɔɾe ˈqʼalːoɾi ˈlɛ]
I have changed my language's romanization to use ⟨j⟩ and ⟨ǰ⟩ instead of ⟨ʒ⟩ and ⟨ǯ⟩.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 5:58 am 
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Ri lsiraq nai baistak mai? Ku kowu nênte era moê!
Is silence returning? We can't let that happen!

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 8:12 am 
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Saylan me gut, wen yu won it.
Silence can be good when you want it.


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 11:42 am 
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C'ę ⟨c⟩ əc ⟨č⟩ q'arròxò yòq'o c'ę ləśboxò sak'ə /dz/ əc /dʐ/-re ⟨j⟩ əc ⟨ǰ⟩ pąk'ə č'eśrò.
DIST.PF ⟨c⟩ and ⟨č⟩ be_like.IPFV-A:3PF-P:3PF because DIST.PF like.IPFV-A:1S-P:3PF but /dz/ and /dʐ/=DAT ⟨j⟩ and ⟨ǰ⟩ strange seem-S:3PF
[ˈtsʼɛ̃ ˈtsʰa ətsʰ ˈtʂʰa ˈqʼarːɔχɔ ˈjɔqʼo ˈtsʼɛ̃ ˈləɕboχɔ ˈsakʼə ˈdza ətsʰ ˈdʐaɾe ˈdza ətsʰ ˈdʐa ˈpʰãkʼə ˈtʂʼeɕɾɔ]
⟨j⟩ and ⟨ǰ⟩ for /dz/ and /dʐ/ seem strange but I like them because they are like ⟨c⟩ and ⟨č⟩.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 2:57 pm 
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Travis B. wrote:
⟨j⟩ and ⟨ǰ⟩ for /dz/ and /dʐ/ seem strange but I like them because they are like ⟨c⟩ and ⟨č⟩.

⟨j⟩ an ⟨ǰ⟩ me luk kweya, oba mi won dem :)
⟨j⟩ and ⟨ǰ⟩ may look strange, but I love them :).


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 10:09 pm 
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Dama Diwą lehəco ju hulòwə yòča c'i došèyə ju jo herrowə.
Dama Diwan mock.IPFV-GER-3SM CONT able_to.IPFV-A:1P-P:3SM so_that DIST.3SM write-S:3SM CONT almost wish-A:1S-P:3SM
[ˈdama ˈdiwã ˈlehətsʰo ˈdzu ˈhulɔwə ˈjɔtʂʰa ˈtsʼi ˈdoʂɛjə ˈdzu ˈdzo ˈherːowə]

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 15, 2018 4:55 am 
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jal wrote:
Saylan me gut, wen yu won it.
Silence can be good when you want it.


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Ama man sobak es poêk tire.
In that case I'll shut up.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 15, 2018 5:27 am 
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Dē Graut Bʉr wrote:
In that case I'll shut up.

Soso wen yu won it!
Only when you want it!


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 15, 2018 6:37 pm 
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Šęše šu yè nè herrowə.
talk.IPFV-S:2SM-SJV NEG CESS FUT wish-A:1S-P:3SM
[ˈʂɛ̃ʂe ˈʂu ˈjɛ ˈnɛ ˈherːowə]
I wish you wouldn't stop talking.

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Irdro. Irdro. Irdro. Irdro. Irdro. Irdro. Irdro.


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 3:20 am 
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Ye, it me beta minu gwan tok an sway sway fo minu langwic dem.
Yes, it may be better to continue talking and practice our languages.


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 17, 2018 5:23 am 
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Ama man ku poêk tire.
In that case I won't shut up.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 17, 2018 3:56 pm 
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Šicə šu yè-k'əl nąc'ewi.
talk.IPFV-GER NEG CESS=ABL thank-A:1S-P:3SM
[ˈʂitsʰə ˈʂu ˈjɛkʼəl ˈnãtsʼewi]
Thank you for not shutting up.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 17, 2018 5:10 pm 
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Mi swel in cot op.
I won't shut up either.


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