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The only concountry I have developed, the First Sehlian Empire, doesn't use flags at all. It does use, however, oval-shaped emblems: they're displayed on people's shields, on city walls, painted on people's bodies, or quilted into clothing. They are familiar with the concept of a flag, but find them impractical. When they have to have a flag-like thing, say, for displaying the emblem on a square piece of cloth, they do it against a white or gray background, so that it doesn't distract from the emblem.
This is the imperial emblem, the only legal one within imperial territories, which eventually turned into the whole civilized world. [not as big as it sounds, sort of the size of Australia]
At any rate, that; not a flag, but similar. Yellow signifies hope and happiness, red means dignity (from the willingness to shed blood) and black is the color of the imperial family, which brings both together, the metaphor being something like the empire makes the gallantry of warriors result in a better world. The idea of progress is completely absent from their culture, but not the idea of greater or public good.
This is the imperial emblem, the only legal one within imperial territories, which eventually turned into the whole civilized world. [not as big as it sounds, sort of the size of Australia]
At any rate, that; not a flag, but similar. Yellow signifies hope and happiness, red means dignity (from the willingness to shed blood) and black is the color of the imperial family, which brings both together, the metaphor being something like the empire makes the gallantry of warriors result in a better world. The idea of progress is completely absent from their culture, but not the idea of greater or public good.
Okay, these are more doodles than final designs, but I figured since we have a new Flags thread and I need flags or emblems for my science fiction universe, I'd throw something together. Think of these as seals or emblems for a large, human, interstellar nation. Very much a WIP.
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There is to my knowledge no real world flag that is black-white-green with 1:2 proportions like mine is. (apparantly the former state of Bhopal used a similar one but I'm not sure about its proportions) Anyway the flag in that particular picture is photoshopped, but I do have an identical real flag, I just don't have a flagpole to hang it from.cedh audmanh wrote:Extremadura, a province of Spain. The flag is upside down, but well...Soap wrote:Aszev's flag is likely the flag of some real world country or state. It wouldnt necessarily have to be specially made for him.
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Ack we've been had!Aszev wrote:There is to my knowledge no real world flag that is black-white-green with 1:2 proportions like mine is. (apparantly the former state of Bhopal used a similar one but I'm not sure about its proportions) Anyway the flag in that particular picture is photoshopped, but I do have an identical real flag, I just don't have a flagpole to hang it from.cedh audmanh wrote:Extremadura, a province of Spain. The flag is upside down, but well...Soap wrote:Aszev's flag is likely the flag of some real world country or state. It wouldnt necessarily have to be specially made for him.
Just kidding , good job on the pic . One of these days I really ought to look for some company that makes custom flags and get myself a real himachizai (instead of printing out cheap 8x11 paper ones )
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It's "naturalistic" to own slaves, but that doesn't make it a good idea.Unbidden wrote:Yet, it seems to be a very naturalistic thing to have a "bad" flag.Dewrad wrote:This is required reading for all those creating their own flags. Seriously, guys: some of these are just plain hideous.
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My point is, sure, it might be good to have flags that are logical and obey the laws of heraldry. But, clearly a lot of nations (and states etc) on Earth have spat in the face of logic. As handy as the guide is I don't think many zbbers will be rushing to change their flags.Dewrad wrote:It's "naturalistic" to own slaves, but that doesn't make it a good idea.Unbidden wrote:Yet, it seems to be a very naturalistic thing to have a "bad" flag.Dewrad wrote:This is required reading for all those creating their own flags. Seriously, guys: some of these are just plain hideous.
Every country needs quirks, even concontries, what's the harm in putting in a few imperfections. Especially if they're artistic choices?
If someone would rather be logical and design "better" flags well now they have the guide you posted to help them out....
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Seconded. It's gorgeous.Unbidden wrote:@Nils
That pentagonal seal is win!
If you were eager to learn how it might be to buy what surely would have turned out to be those sixteen cows I think I may have discussed with you (if indeed it was you whomwith I had that conversation), I'm afraid I shouldn't be able to help you.
Hmm, thanks - interesting. It probably works well for one of those tiny interstellar nations... I'll use itsasasha wrote:Seconded. It's gorgeous.Unbidden wrote:@Nils
That pentagonal seal is win!
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Some from the world of Meduzís:
Meduzís. The seven-pointed star was originally a stylised amaranth flower, and is the symbol of the Vizhosõ religion.
Ushenshe.
Mardosayo. The flag represents the country's three rivers, the Raisu, the Fisefu, and the Shibi.
Radrakut.
Zaramar. The two roses symbolise the two islands that make up the country.
Tsanomai. The Lion of Nakai (Nakai-o Nanem) is an ancient emblem of the monarchy; the gold field represents the country, as the name Tsanomai derives from Old Tsanomese "great golden land".
Tsarprîmait. The roundels represent pearls (tai), an allusion to the capital city Taispar.
Meduzís. The seven-pointed star was originally a stylised amaranth flower, and is the symbol of the Vizhosõ religion.
Ushenshe.
Mardosayo. The flag represents the country's three rivers, the Raisu, the Fisefu, and the Shibi.
Radrakut.
Zaramar. The two roses symbolise the two islands that make up the country.
Tsanomai. The Lion of Nakai (Nakai-o Nanem) is an ancient emblem of the monarchy; the gold field represents the country, as the name Tsanomai derives from Old Tsanomese "great golden land".
Tsarprîmait. The roundels represent pearls (tai), an allusion to the capital city Taispar.
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Me too.Torco wrote:I like the green white purple better too
No offense intended, but are you by any chance color blind?Milloniare wrote:Heres my flag
Blue for the oceans, green for the fertile land and yellow for gold(prosperity)
Nice emblem. What is it?Christoph Schrader wrote:
I like this one a lot, but the shades of color are a little "off".Astraios wrote:The flag of Sogur:
Spiral galaxy?nils wrote:
This ones really good. Haven't I seen it before?nils wrote:
Fascistic spiral galaxy?nils wrote:
These two are really nice.thedukeofnuke wrote:Radrakut.
Zaramar. The two roses symbolise the two islands that make up the country.
It could also be that the colors on his screen are just "off". My LCD tv and my LCD screen are both wildly different with some colors, as is my work LCD screen.Qwynegold wrote:No offense intended, but are you by any chance color blind?
Yeah.Qwynegold wrote:Spiral galaxy?
Could be. I had it sitting around and wasn't sure if I had posted it in the old flags thread.Qwynegold wrote:This ones really good. Haven't I seen it before?
Fascist "we couldn't draw the milky way if our secret police depended on it" spiral galaxyQwynegold wrote:Fascistic spiral galaxy?
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The friend with whom I collabourated made that symbol, but I think she called it a flourdeliz (fleur de lis in Breton, or something of the sort) — I just supplied the layout and palette for that one.Qwynegold wrote:Nice emblem. What is it?Christoph Schrader wrote:
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Oh come on. That's just Thailand with blue swapped out for green (or Boyacá with the colours reversed) and some kind of mirrored Bosnia. D- for effort. Do try harder.vampireshark wrote:Flags!
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The point isn't that following the guide produces more logical or more heraldically correct flags, but flags which just plain look better. Seriously, it helps you avoid some of the ugliness that we've seen in this thread. Beauty in the eye of the beholder and everyone is a special snowflake etc etc, but some shit is just plain ugly, no matter which way you look at it. Would you like me to give examples, or would that offend your "everyone is special" principles too much?Unbidden wrote:Every country needs quirks, even concontries, what's the harm in putting in a few imperfections. Especially if they're artistic choices?
If someone would rather be logical and design "better" flags well now they have the guide you posted to help them out....
Salmoneus wrote:(NB Dewrad is behaving like an adult - a petty, sarcastic and uncharitable adult, admittedly, but none the less note the infinitely higher quality of flame)
Yeah, some shit is ugly, like for example your complaining.Dewrad wrote:The point isn't that following the guide produces more logical or more heraldically correct flags, but flags which just plain look better. Seriously, it helps you avoid some of the ugliness that we've seen in this thread. Beauty in the eye of the beholder and everyone is a special snowflake etc etc, but some shit is just plain ugly, no matter which way you look at it. Would you like me to give examples, or would that offend your "everyone is special" principles too much?Unbidden wrote:Every country needs quirks, even concontries, what's the harm in putting in a few imperfections. Especially if they're artistic choices?
If someone would rather be logical and design "better" flags well now they have the guide you posted to help them out....
If someone here has designed a flag clearly beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
Why should they give a dam about your personal tastes?
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Look, look at the snowflakes! Aren't they all unique and special in their own way! ^__^Unbidden wrote:Yeah, some shit is ugly, like for example your complaining.Dewrad wrote:The point isn't that following the guide produces more logical or more heraldically correct flags, but flags which just plain look better. Seriously, it helps you avoid some of the ugliness that we've seen in this thread. Beauty in the eye of the beholder and everyone is a special snowflake etc etc, but some shit is just plain ugly, no matter which way you look at it. Would you like me to give examples, or would that offend your "everyone is special" principles too much?Unbidden wrote:Every country needs quirks, even concontries, what's the harm in putting in a few imperfections. Especially if they're artistic choices?
If someone would rather be logical and design "better" flags well now they have the guide you posted to help them out....
If someone here has designed a flag clearly beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
Why should they give a dam about your personal tastes?
Salmoneus wrote:(NB Dewrad is behaving like an adult - a petty, sarcastic and uncharitable adult, admittedly, but none the less note the infinitely higher quality of flame)
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No, no it's not. Having a similar pattern does not make the flag identical to others. Look at the varying tricolors presented. In fact, there are about... four other differences from the Thai flag.Dewrad wrote:Oh come on. That's just Thailand with blue swapped out for green (or Boyacá with the colours reversed) and some kind of mirrored Bosnia. D- for effort. Do try harder.
And the Ilian Flag was partly inspired by the Bosnian, but comes from their own history. It's not a mirrored Bosnia... I should know, because I love that flag.
Anyways, maybe this will be to your loathing more, sir.
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Thanks. I was worried that on the Zaramaran flag the roses would be a bit overpowering, and it's good to know that at least some people don't think so. As for the flag of Radrakut, I chose it partly because it looks like a chainsaw (Sanguine a bend raguly Argent).Qwynegold wrote:These two are really nice.
@nils: I do like that fist-and-galaxy design. It looks very revolutionary.
@Milloniaire: I agree with Qwynegold that the colours look a bit "off", perhaps faded; maybe you could increase the saturation and decrease the luminosity.
@Dewrad: Come on, you're being a bit harsh on the man. Yes, the guide you've posted is a very good one, and yes, some flags can be very ugly indeed; but people can make ugly flags if they want to. It's certainly good to offer advice on how to improve a flag according the the opinions of yourself and the people of NAVA, but you can't force people to follow it.
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