Doesn't work for my conpeople and their language, then. They know better than that~patiku wrote:It's an alternate term for "dirty fighting", especially when someone bites and scratches.
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yes - cats, wolves, lion cubs, human children....even if it looks like they're throwing punches, it's got almost no force behind it - when they bite, the jaws don't even try to close...essentially play-acting, like in a theater.Skomakar'n wrote:I've never heard of that term, or concept. What is it? Like when two baby cats fight without the intent to hurt each other, but are just playing?
I think that's a "catfight".patiku wrote:It's an alternate term for "dirty fighting", especially when someone bites and scratches.
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No, that's not it at all. Play fighting is when you "fight" with someone as a game, not because you actually want to hurt them. It's rowdy play behaviour, not actual conflict.patiku wrote:It's an alternate term for "dirty fighting", especially when someone bites and scratches.
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Oh, er, uh, I only read your translation - "fight like a dog".Imralu wrote:No, that's not it at all. Play fighting is when you "fight" with someone as a game, not because you actually want to hurt them. It's rowdy play behaviour, not actual conflict.patiku wrote:It's an alternate term for "dirty fighting", especially when someone bites and scratches.
Yeah, you highlighted something interesting actually. The Ewed word for "horseplay" is more like "dogfight" in origin.patiku wrote:Oh, er, uh, I only read your translation - "fight like a dog".
In English, fight like a dog has connotations of "dishonorable fighting". Dogs fight in a way (with their teeth) that we think of a dishonorable (as though punching someone's face with your fist and refraining from using teeth and nails or going for straight for the genitals is somehow more honorable) and often for a reason (food) that we see as petty, so I can see how this connotation arose. Horseplay on the other hand, I'm not so sure. Are horses particularly known for play fighting? In my experience, equine fighting seems more often genuinely aggressive and less playful than dogs'. My aunt had two horses that initially got on fine but then had a big falling out. Horses that get on well often chase each other around, but actual fighting, biting and kicking with hooves doesn't seem to be forgiven as quickly.
The Ewed don't have horses and have made a different observation about dogs. Dogs often chase each other and jump all over each other and bite each other and bark for no reason other than having a lot of playful energy, and then when it's over, they don't seem to hold it against each other.
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Jacqui wrote:Sko, seeing as nobody has explained it properly yet [...]
Earlier, I wrote:Play fighting is when you "fight" with someone as a game, not because you actually want to hurt them. It's rowdy play behaviour, not actual conflict.
Also, is anyone going to provide their word and suggest a subsequent word?
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ćobob (ćobom, ćobomum) v. playfight, pretend fighting. This is distinguished from horseplay, which is not so much playfighting as careless playing that is likely to cause accidents.
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Delith nerektos keto doth mül so mili.
Reflections of fear cast shadows of nothing.
Delith nerektos keto doth mül so mili.
Reflections of fear cast shadows of nothing.
hiyalnogarwo ńnarańii greegii = (of the) 'family' of dugongs and bats.WurdBendur wrote:ćobob (ćobom, ćobomum) v. playfight, pretend fighting. This is distinguished from horseplay, which is not so much playfighting as careless playing that is likely to cause accidents.
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{those are the only two species of mammals they knew of, prior to the arrival of missionaries}
/ˈhí:.alno.Gar.wo Nnara.Nii Gree.Gii/
hiy.alno.gar.wo ńnara.ńi.i gree.gii
hiy = iterative, plural.
alno = Imperfect, no tense.
wo = hand {to emphasize that this is what's doing the grasping later}
gar = family, gathering, unit, team.
Nnara = dugong
Gree = fruit bat.
-(ń)ii -(g)ii = marker for something which is within, which is being held. (consonant is in harmony with the initial consonant of the noun)
(the <y> in Romanization marks the preceeding vowel as higher)
Next: singing in..., singing within...
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What? Is that a particular concept you wish you express? It just seems like two random words taken from the middle of a sentence (eg. "people don't", "dancing under").Rodlox wrote:Next: singing in..., singing within...
In Ewed you'd say laala ni, for example Na i laala ni ham na "I'm singing in my house."
No next word, I'll let the next person do "singing in" again.
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yes. (ie, singing in the house, singing within a chorus)Imralu wrote:What? Is that a particular concept you wish you express?Rodlox wrote:Next: singing in..., singing within...
more like "dancing under"...I thought it would be a good example of Locative. (wrong word?)It just seems like two random words taken from the middle of a sentence (eg. "people don't", "dancing under").
No next word, I'll let the next person do "singing in" again.
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Depends on the language, could be locative, could be inessive. Some languages may treat "singing in the house/shower" differently to "singing in a choir". The first is physical location, the second may better be described by indicating "sing as a member of ..."Rodlox wrote: more like "dancing under"...I thought it would be a good example of Locative. (wrong word?)
In Finnish, for example, you'd say "sing" (which is laulaa) followed by the inessive case on the next noun. There's no way to just say "sing in" (other than laulaa -ssä/-ssa ... it must be in something.
Laula-n talo-ssa
{sing-1S house-INESS}
"I sing in the/a house"
Laula-n sängy-ssä
{sing-1S bed-INESS}
"I sing in bed.
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Does this mean that the missionaries brought horses, dogs etc. with them, or that your conpeople are e.g. reptilian and the missionaries were the third species of mammal they encountered?Rodlox wrote:hiyalnogarwo ńnarańii greegii = (of the) 'family' of dugongs and bats.WurdBendur wrote:next: mammal
{those are the only two species of mammals they knew of, prior to the arrival of missionaries}
[i]Linguistics will become a science when linguists begin standing on one another's shoulders instead of on one another's toes.[/i]
—Stephen R. Anderson
[i]Málin eru höfuðeinkenni þjóðanna.[/i]
—Séra Tómas Sæmundsson
—Stephen R. Anderson
[i]Málin eru höfuðeinkenni þjóðanna.[/i]
—Séra Tómas Sæmundsson
Ardinorian:
habronehis
The physical country. From habaron emperor; nehis country, land
habrasa
The concept of empire. Not imperialism, but a theological term used in the emperor's invocations. I think a good analogy would be the usage of America in speeches
habronehis
The physical country. From habaron emperor; nehis country, land
habrasa
The concept of empire. Not imperialism, but a theological term used in the emperor's invocations. I think a good analogy would be the usage of America in speeches
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the first option. they're fully human.Echobeats wrote:Does this mean that the missionaries brought horses, dogs etc. with them, or that your conpeople are e.g. reptilian and the missionaries were the third species of mammal they encountered?Rodlox wrote:hiyalnogarwo ńnarańii greegii = (of the) 'family' of dugongs and bats.WurdBendur wrote:next: mammal
{those are the only two species of mammals they knew of, prior to the arrival of missionaries}
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Ewed:eodrakken wrote:next: pay attention
ngin "focuses (on)", "concentrates (on)", "pays attention (to)"
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Mál means evil. On a scale of abstractness, veslin mi mál or málveslin would be the pure concept, and málnino would be almost tangible. Málnino would probably also work for Evil, because mál by itself can mean rude.
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Mál means evil. On a scale of abstractness, veslin mi mál or málveslin would be the pure concept, and málnino would be almost tangible. Málnino would probably also work for Evil, because mál by itself can mean rude.
next word: repetitive, repetition, repeat, repeating
Ewed:HelixWitch wrote:next word: repetitive, repetition, repeat, repeating
Ewe: again
Ewe dje do again, repeat
Ma i dze du. Wa i dac ewe dje ma.
"That's no good. You have to do that again."
Next word: lizard.
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