Post your conlang's phonology

[Risla]

I can definitely produce geminated ejectives.

[Astraios]

So you have geminated ejectives? Pretty sure that's impossible.

Yes, just like e.g. Italian's geminated affricates are impossible.

[Zaris]

This is the current phonology for my revision of PEL--which at first turned out as a euroclone and has now been revised to resemble less-western languages.

Nasals: /m n N/
Stops: /p_h t_h k_h q_h b d g p' t' k' q'/
Fricatives: /f s S K x X/
Approximates: /r l w j/

Vowels: /i e a o u/
Diphthongs: /ej aj oj ew aw ow/

Allophony, for the most part, is minimal. It is agreed that nasals assimilated to surrounding stops and that /N/ dipthongized preceding vowels. But other symmetry-obsessed phoneticists argue that /C/, /j\/, and /R/ must have existed as allophones of /k/, /g/, and /r/ respectively.

Other "nationally motivated" linguists have also suggested additional phonemic qualities such as nasality and phonemic tone; others also refute the existence of the uvular series as they only remain in a handful of descendants, and replace them with /tS/ and /tS'/ for the stops and /S/ for the fricative.

Despite these claims, the phonology above remains to be the most accepted and taught version; and is thus listed above.

[sirdanilot]

no /ɢ/ but still /p'/ ? these two are both articulatory difficult, so having gaps there wouldn't be weird, but only a gap in /ɢ/ but not in /p'/ seems random. Not at all impossible, though.

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no /ɢ/ but still /p'/ ? these two are both articulatory difficult, so having gaps there wouldn't be weird, but only a gap in /ɢ/ but not in /p'/ seems random. Not at all impossible, though.

There are tons of languages that have /p'/ without /ɢ/. Most of the Caucasian languages and quite a few Native American languages have /p'/ and I can't say that ANY of them have /ɢ/.

[finlay]

no /ɢ/ but still /p'/ ? these two are both articulatory difficult, so having gaps there wouldn't be weird, but only a gap in /ɢ/ but not in /p'/ seems random. Not at all impossible, though.

wut.

you'd think that they wouldn't be causally linked...

[TallaFerroXIV]

Here's an updated version of Dor phonology:

Consonants:
/p b t d k g
pʰ tʰ kʰ
f s z tʃ dʒ
l ɬ
r ɹ
m n ŋ/

Vowels:
-stressed [unstressed]
i[ɪ] u[ʊ]
e[ə] o[ə]
ɛ[ə] ɔ[ə]
ɑ[a]

Consonant clusters: onset or in word, not coda*.

aspirated voicless plosive + /s/ /tʃ/ /l/ /ɬ/ /r/
/mb/ /nd/ /ŋg/

Diphthongs:
iɑ iɛ ie iɔ io iu
ɑi ɛi ei ɔi oi ui
uɑ uɛ ue ui uɔ uo
ɑu ɛu eu iu ɔu ou

also unstressed form.

Phonotactics:
/tʃ/ /dʒ/ [^tʃ] [^dʒ] in any position except onset
voiced plosives in coda voiceless
voiceless plosives in coda aspirated
/ɹ/ [ʔ] in any position except coda**.
/b/ /d/ /g/ [β] [ð] [ɣ] between vowels

Other:
/ɑ~a/ separates illegal consonant clusters
/ɹ~ʔ/ separates illegal diphthongs

* except in certain declension
**Rare, modern scholars say the /ɹ/ is relegated to classical Dor and doesn't exist in Dor.

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Phonotactics:
/tʃ/ /dʒ/ [^tʃ] [^dʒ] inter-worldy

You mean like in space travel?

[finlay]

What's that even meant to mean?

[TallaFerroXIV]

lol! corrected. I should stop posting things in a hurry.

[finlay]

i mean the superscripts

[Umega]

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/p~b k k~g t ɖ~d/  b k g t d

/m n/ m n 

/J j/ c j

/pp~ φ h~υ θ  s z ʃ~tʃ ʒ~dʒ  x ɣ/  f v th[usually written in a ligature]  s z cc jj h  ɣ or ƣ or q        

/a e ɛ i~ι o̟ ʉ̟ ɜ/ a e ɛ/ex i o u y  

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for varied consonants the sound on the right of the tilda is always dominant

iota means japanese 'u' [avoids confusion with ghwa]
J is the voiceless /j/
open fi is the voiceless form of upsilon

esh and ezh only appear between vowels
ghamma can be written with either glyph
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1. phi is usually dropped at the beginning of words
2. b and g become implosive before back vowels
3. l becomes elsh before front vowels
4. /i'u/ tends to replace i's actuall sound
5. approximants are dropped after consonants
6. long vowels are doubled [except epsilon]

Nombre; Aaelos

[TallaFerroXIV]

i mean the superscripts

palatal fricatives with a point of dentalization. Somewhere between /ʃ/ and /tʃ/.

[maıráí]

Erg. I suck at phonologies. I also like to be able to actually pronounce what I speak, so it's probably not the most amazing/exploratory/far out phonology you've ever seen.

Modern East-Aten

Consonants
Nasalz
m n ŋ

Plosives/Stops/?
p b pʰ t d tʰ k g kʰ q

Fricatives
ɸ β f v θ ð s z ʃ ʒ

Approximants
ʋ (Lazy pronunciation of /u/ before a vowel. Not present in many dialects.)
ɹ
j (Lazy pronunciation of /i/ before a vowel. Not present in a few dialects.)

Trills
r ʀ

Misc
l ɾ

Vowels
(Some of these are diphthongs, but in a native speaker's mind, they are basic vowels.)
a i u (Pure)
ə ɪ ʊ (Relaxed)
e o (Impure)
ai ao oi eo (Mixed)
əɪ (Rexlaxed Mixed)

Diphthongs
Oh, Christ. V+V(+V), mix as you want.
I'm still deciding what is and isn't allowed.

Tones (And Length)
a˧ a˧:
a˦ a˦:
a˨ a˨:
a˦˥ a˩˨
a˥˦ a˨˩

[roninbodhisattva]

Fun little Salish-like consonant inventory that needs to be worked on:

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p    t               č    kʷ     q    qʷ
p’   t’   t’θ   ƛ’   č’   k’ʷ    q’   q’ʷ   ʔ
b    d               ǰ    gʷ
     s    θ     ł    š    xʷ     χ    χʷ    h
m    n          l    y    w

There's also the option without the voiced-obstruents:

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p    t               č    kʷ     q    qʷ
p’   t’   t’θ   ƛ’   č’   k’ʷ    q’   q’ʷ   ʔ
     s    θ     ł    š    xʷ     χ    χʷ    h
m    n          l    y    w
m'   n'         l'   y'   w'  

[Bristel]

Fun little Salish-like consonant inventory that needs to be worked on:

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p    t               č    kʷ     q    qʷ
p’   t’   t’θ   ƛ’   č’   k’ʷ    q’   q’ʷ   ʔ
b    d               ǰ    gʷ
     s    θ     ł    š    xʷ     χ    χʷ    h
m    n          l    y    w

There's also the option without the voiced-obstruents:

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p    t               č    kʷ     q    qʷ
p’   t’   t’θ   ƛ’   č’   k’ʷ    q’   q’ʷ   ʔ
     s    θ     ł    š    xʷ     χ    χʷ    h
m    n          l    y    w
m'   n'         l'   y'   w'  

lol, my conlang Squalipsh is similar, but without the /tʼθ/ and I think there is /tɬʼ tʃʼ/ as well.

It would be fun to put the two side by side in a conworld.

[finlay]

Well ronin's used the frankly annoying Americanist notation of ƛ = tɬ and č = tʃ; so it does have those sounds, in fact.

[Bristel]

Well ronin's used the frankly annoying Americanist notation of ƛ = tɬ and č = tʃ; so it does have those sounds, in fact.

oops, yeah, I just noticed that.

Now the similarities are complete, for the most part. >_>

Salish really needs some variety, ferchrissakes.

[roninbodhisattva]

Well, I mean, the same could be said for Romance...or Germanic. I may add a uvular resonant series. Something like /ʁ ʁ'/. Or some glottalized fricatives.

[Bristel]

I was thinking of adding more nasals like uvular nasal, plus an uvular lateral.

I can't do the IPA on this iPad right now, but both look like small caps N and L.

[Nortaneous]

what the fuck is a uvular lateral

small-caps L is a velar lateral, which appears in like one natlang

[Christopher Schröder]

Another revision of that Germanic language with all the decidedly-Ungermanic diphthongs —

Consonants
Stops
/p t k b d g/

Affricates
/ʦ ʧ ʤ/

Fricatives
/f s ʃ θ v z ʒ/

Resonants
/m n ɲ l ʋ j ʀ/

Initial Clusters
/pl pʀ tʋ tʀ kl kʀ bl dʋ dʀ gl gʀ fl fʀ sp spʀ st stʀ skʀ sʋ θʋ θʀ vʀ zm zn zl zʋ zʀ/

Final Clusters
/mf mθ mz nd nf nθ nz ld lf lθ lz lm ln ʀd ʀf ʀθ ʀm ʀn ʀl/

Vowels
Short Vowels
/ɪ ʏ ɛ ø a ɔ u/

Long Vowels
/iː ɪː yː ɛː eː œː ɑː oː uː/

Diphthongs
/i̯y i̯ɛ i̯e i̯œ i̯a y̯i y̯ɛ y̯e y̯a ɛ̯a ɛ̯œ œ̯i œ̯a œ̯u o̯a u̯a/

Notes
History
* The diphthong /œu/, the descendant of historical /oː/ patterns as the long counterpart to /ɔ/, with present /oː/ having a separate development from historical /ɔː/, which is itself descended from historical /au/ and /ɔj/
* Historical /ʀz/ has merged with /ʒ/
* Historical final k g/ are lost at the end of the word, resulting in compensatory long vowels, including /ɪː/, but are generally retained orthographically; historical /t d/ are similarly lost in most instances, with /d/ generally retained after /n l ʀ/
* The velar nasal, which was originally the descendant of /kn gn nk ng/ was denasalised word-finally, but palatalised word-initially and medially, leaving /ɲ/ in most instances, but an unexpected word-final /g/ as well

Phonotactics
* Syllable structure is (C/R)V(V)(C) for initial and medial syllables, (C/R)V(V)(I/F) for final syllables and monosyllables, in which C = Consonant, R = Initial Cluster, V = Vowel, VV = Diphthong, F = Final Cluster, I = /g f s θ z ʒ m n l ʀ/
* The resonants /ɲ ʋ j/ do not appear at the end of words.
* Stress is fixed upon the final syllable, with a secondary stress appearing on every-other syllable counting backwards; long vowels and diphthongs may only appear in syllables of primary or secondary stress.
* The vowel /ɪː/ only appears at the end of a word

Allophony
* /k g/ are generally realised as [c ɟ] before /ɪ ʏ ɛ ø iː ɪː yː ɛː eː œː/, hereafter ‘bright vowels’
* /k g/ are generally realised as [ç ɣ] before /ʀ/.
* /j ʋ/ are very close to /i̯ u̯/ and are generally pronounced as such when not intervocalic
* /iː ɛː eː œː ɑː oː uː/ are shortened to /i ɛ e œ ɑ o u/ in syllables of only secondary stress; /ɑ/ becomes /a/ when it precedes a syllable with /ɑː/

Example Text
Wieudst ijr thé plaise te vijnen vijr Creim Tea tedag?
Mama wieule cuiren en Gatauld gef thé dissest joh!
[ʋi̯œld iːʀ ðeː ple'zɑː tɛ vi'nɛːn viːʀ çʀɛːm tɛ̯a te'dɑː]
[ma'mɑː ʋi̯œ'lɑː cy̯iʀɛːn ɛːn gɑtoːld ʒɛf ðeː dɪ'sɛːs ʒœu]

[Nortaneous]

* /k g/ are generally realised as /c ɟ/ before /ɪ ʏ ɛ ø iː ɪː yː ɛː eː œː/, hereafter ‘bright vowels’
* /k g/ are generally realised as /ç γ/ before bright vowels

...?

[Bristel]

what the fuck is a uvular lateral

small-caps L is a velar lateral, which appears in like one natlang

oh yeah, sorry, I was distracted while typing that post.

[Christopher Schröder]

* /k g/ are generally realised as /c ɟ/ before /ɪ ʏ ɛ ø iː ɪː yː ɛː eː œː/, hereafter ‘bright vowels’
* /k g/ are generally realised as /ç ɣ/ before bright vowels

...?

Oops, I meant [ç ɣ] before /ʀ/; I was a bit tired when I typed that up...