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^is a phonemic inventory, not a phonology.
The contrast between /ɰ/ and /w/ looks unusual like the contrast between /ɸ/ and f/.
The vowel inventory would be more balanced if /a/ was a mid vowel, as it is in most of natlangs. Note that conlangers sometimes use /a/ for any open unrounded vowel.´

I may be wrong, though.

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Modern Kjogon
m n
p, b t, d, k, g
z zh
w j

Old Kjogon
m n ng
p, b t, d c k, g
f, v s, z sh, zh x
w j r

Both have the basic a, e, i, o, u vowel system.


crap, my spaces were deleted. D:

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Add IPA to your post.

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i don't know how, maybe later I'll make a graph and upload it as a picture.

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Here's a link to a great IPA keyboard. You can simply type whatever you want to type in there and then copy/paste it.
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the velar lateral is b. not a thing
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Kelunda

Consonants
Plosives: [p], , [t], [d], [c], [ɟ], [k], [g]
Nasals: [m], [n]
Fricatives: [ɸ], [s], [ʃ], [χ]
Non-lateral approximants: [ɹ], [l]
Lateral approximants: [ʎ]

Vowels
Front: , [y], [ɛ], [œ]
Back: [ɯ], , [ɑ]

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CalebWhite wrote:Non-lateral approximants: [ɹ], [l]
[l] is a lateral approximant.
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Iaskyon

Phoneme inventory
Consonants

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Nasals: /m/ /n/ /ŋ/
Plosives: /p/ /b/ /t/ /d/ /k/ /g/
Plain fricatives: /ɸ/ /β/ /s/ /z/ /x/ /ɣ/
Lateral fricative: /ɬ/
Plain affricates: /tθ/ /ts/ /dz/
Lateral affricate: /tɬ/
Approximants: /l/ /j/
/m/ and /l/ have syllabic counterparts /m̩/ and /l̩/.
/x/ has two allophones: [ç] after /i(:)/, /y(:)/ and [x] after any other vowel.
/ɣ/ has allophones: [ʝ] after /i(:)/, /y(:)/, [ʔ] at the end of a syllable and [ɣ] anywhere else.
/β/ is realised as [w] as a glide (second consonant) in a syllable, and [β] anywhere else.
/t/ is realised as [ʔ] at the end of a syllable and [t] anywhere else.

Vowels
Short:

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/i y u/
/ɛ œ ɜ~ə ɔ/
/a/
Long:

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/iː yː uː/
/ɛː œː ɘː~əː oː/
/aː/
Diphthongs:

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/ai au ɜi ɜu ɛi ɛu iu ya yɛ yi yœ ui ɔi ɔu œy/
Phonotactics
(C(G))V(C)

Onset:
No restrictions on initial consonant.
/j/, [w] are accepted glides.

Allowed onsets:

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bj, pj, dw, dj, tw, tj, gw, gj, kw, kj
dzj, tsw, tsj, tθw, tθj
ɸj, βj, sj, zj, ɬw, ɬj, xw, xj [ç], ɣw, ɣj [ʝ]
mw, mj, nj, ŋj
lw, lj
Nucleus:
/iu ya yɛ yi yœ ui/ cannot coexist with an onset with a glide.

Coda:
Any consonant.

Just want to see if there are problems with it :wink:
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Having /tθ/ but no /θ/ seems strange to me.
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WeepingElf wrote:Having /tθ/ but no /θ/ seems strange to me.
Is it too strange to be feasible? Would a sound change of all /θ/ to /tθ/ be possible? Thanks!
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Here is it:
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Man, we're not blind.
Also, you have /t/, /s/, /tʃ/ and no /ts/ - porquoi?
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That's because old Anelikachtik tsʲ > t͡ʃ.
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Also, I am new to the attachment stuff..
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legolasean wrote:That's because old Anelikachtik tsʲ > t͡ʃ.
But where is the normal /ts/ ?
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Legolasean, do your speakers lack lips?
legolasean wrote:Rules:
1. No allophones.
Bad rule, unless this is a philosolang or somewhat intentionally unnaturalistic. For instance, having no rhotics, it wouldn't be hard for /l/ to turn into some somewhere or have free variation (c.f. Japanese).

And shouldn't /n/ be in the nasal rather than approximant row?

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Kaenif wrote:
WeepingElf wrote:Having /tθ/ but no /θ/ seems strange to me.
Is it too strange to be feasible? Would a sound change of all /θ/ to /tθ/ be possible? Thanks!
I don't think it's strange beyond feasibility, /θ/ is kind of unstable by itself, but it's ok.

I've researched a little and while /tθ/ is rare, it's attested and at least one of the languages in which it's attested lacks /θ/, the Luo language. I'm not sure whether they are talking about allophones or phonemes but I guess it's alright.

Also you said any consonant for codas, so that means affricates like /dz/ can end syllables too? Just curious, nothing wrong with it.

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Eandil wrote:
Kaenif wrote:Is it too strange to be feasible? Would a sound change of all /θ/ to /tθ/ be possible? Thanks!
I don't think it's strange beyond feasibility, /θ/ is kind of unstable by itself, but it's ok.

I've researched a little and while /tθ/ is rare, it's attested and at least one of the languages in which it's attested lacks /θ/, the Luo language. I'm not sure whether they are talking about allophones or phonemes but I guess it's alright.

Also you said any consonant for codas, so that means affricates like /dz/ can end syllables too? Just curious, nothing wrong with it.
It's great to hear that, thanks!
Yes, any consonant can end syllables. Words like /dzuːdz/ "erase, take away" and /tθatɬ/ "red" exist. I know it makes morphophonology (and pronunciation) even tougher, but meh.
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Kaenif wrote:Yes, any consonant can end syllables. Words like /dzuːdz/ "erase, take away" and /tθatɬ/ "red" exist. I know it makes phonomorphology (and pronunciation) even tougher, but meh.
Well, don't worry about it. English does it all the time xD. (cats, dogs, match, judge, ...)

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Eandil wrote:Legolasean, do your speakers lack lips?
Let me to introduce you to this little linguistical area; it's called the American Northwest.
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Elector Dark wrote:Let me to introduce you to this little linguistical area; it's called the American Northwest.
Oh, languages without labials? Is legolasean's conlang part of that American language (family(-ies))?

'cause unless it is, my question stands. It's an interesting possibility.
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Eandil wrote:
Elector Dark wrote:Let me to introduce you to this little linguistical area; it's called the American Northwest.
Oh, languages without labials? Is legolasean's conlang part of that American language family?

'cause unless it is, my question stands. It's an interesting possibility.
Ugh.
He has a rounded /o/, so you've failed big time
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Elector Dark wrote:Ugh.
He has a rounded /o/, so you've failed big time
Can't a lipless species produce a rounded vowel by rounding the mouth hole? You're unimaginative.
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