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^is a phonemic inventory, not a phonology.
The contrast between /ɰ/ and /w/ looks unusual like the contrast between /ɸ/ and f/.
The vowel inventory would be more balanced if /a/ was a mid vowel, as it is in most of natlangs. Note that conlangers sometimes use /a/ for any open unrounded vowel.´
I may be wrong, though.
The contrast between /ɰ/ and /w/ looks unusual like the contrast between /ɸ/ and f/.
The vowel inventory would be more balanced if /a/ was a mid vowel, as it is in most of natlangs. Note that conlangers sometimes use /a/ for any open unrounded vowel.´
I may be wrong, though.
Re: Post your conlang's phonology
Modern Kjogon
m n
p, b t, d, k, g
z zh
w j
Old Kjogon
m n ng
p, b t, d c k, g
f, v s, z sh, zh x
w j r
Both have the basic a, e, i, o, u vowel system.
crap, my spaces were deleted. D:
m n
p, b t, d, k, g
z zh
w j
Old Kjogon
m n ng
p, b t, d c k, g
f, v s, z sh, zh x
w j r
Both have the basic a, e, i, o, u vowel system.
crap, my spaces were deleted. D:
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Re: Post your conlang's phonology
the velar lateral is b. not a thing
Siöö jandeng raiglin zåbei tandiüłåd;
nää džunnfin kukuch vklaivei sivei tåd.
Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei.
nää džunnfin kukuch vklaivei sivei tåd.
Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei.
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Kelunda
Consonants
Plosives: [p], , [t], [d], [c], [ɟ], [k], [g]
Nasals: [m], [n]
Fricatives: [ɸ], [s], [ʃ], [χ]
Non-lateral approximants: [ɹ], [l]
Lateral approximants: [ʎ]
Vowels
Front: , [y], [ɛ], [œ]
Back: [ɯ], , [ɑ]
Consonants
Plosives: [p], , [t], [d], [c], [ɟ], [k], [g]
Nasals: [m], [n]
Fricatives: [ɸ], [s], [ʃ], [χ]
Non-lateral approximants: [ɹ], [l]
Lateral approximants: [ʎ]
Vowels
Front: , [y], [ɛ], [œ]
Back: [ɯ], , [ɑ]
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[l] is a lateral approximant.CalebWhite wrote:Non-lateral approximants: [ɹ], [l]
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Iaskyon
Phoneme inventory
Consonants
/m/ and /l/ have syllabic counterparts /m̩/ and /l̩/.
/x/ has two allophones: [ç] after /i(:)/, /y(:)/ and [x] after any other vowel.
/ɣ/ has allophones: [ʝ] after /i(:)/, /y(:)/, [ʔ] at the end of a syllable and [ɣ] anywhere else.
/β/ is realised as [w] as a glide (second consonant) in a syllable, and [β] anywhere else.
/t/ is realised as [ʔ] at the end of a syllable and [t] anywhere else.
Vowels
Short:
Long:
Diphthongs:
Phonotactics
(C(G))V(C)
Onset:
No restrictions on initial consonant.
/j/, [w] are accepted glides.
Allowed onsets:
Nucleus:
/iu ya yɛ yi yœ ui/ cannot coexist with an onset with a glide.
Coda:
Any consonant.
Just want to see if there are problems with it
Phoneme inventory
Consonants
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Nasals: /m/ /n/ /ŋ/
Plosives: /p/ /b/ /t/ /d/ /k/ /g/
Plain fricatives: /ɸ/ /β/ /s/ /z/ /x/ /ɣ/
Lateral fricative: /ɬ/
Plain affricates: /tθ/ /ts/ /dz/
Lateral affricate: /tɬ/
Approximants: /l/ /j/
/x/ has two allophones: [ç] after /i(:)/, /y(:)/ and [x] after any other vowel.
/ɣ/ has allophones: [ʝ] after /i(:)/, /y(:)/, [ʔ] at the end of a syllable and [ɣ] anywhere else.
/β/ is realised as [w] as a glide (second consonant) in a syllable, and [β] anywhere else.
/t/ is realised as [ʔ] at the end of a syllable and [t] anywhere else.
Vowels
Short:
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/i y u/
/ɛ œ ɜ~ə ɔ/
/a/
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/iː yː uː/
/ɛː œː ɘː~əː oː/
/aː/
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/ai au ɜi ɜu ɛi ɛu iu ya yɛ yi yœ ui ɔi ɔu œy/
(C(G))V(C)
Onset:
No restrictions on initial consonant.
/j/, [w] are accepted glides.
Allowed onsets:
Code: Select all
bj, pj, dw, dj, tw, tj, gw, gj, kw, kj
dzj, tsw, tsj, tθw, tθj
ɸj, βj, sj, zj, ɬw, ɬj, xw, xj [ç], ɣw, ɣj [ʝ]
mw, mj, nj, ŋj
lw, lj
/iu ya yɛ yi yœ ui/ cannot coexist with an onset with a glide.
Coda:
Any consonant.
Just want to see if there are problems with it
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[sɔː˥ ŋɔː˩˧ tiː˥ jɪŋ˥mɐn˧˥ tʰʊŋ˩ jyː˩˧jiːn˩hɔk̚˨ jɐt̚˥jœːŋ˧ kɐm˧ siː˧˥]
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[sɔː˥ ŋɔː˩˧ tiː˥ jɪŋ˥mɐn˧˥ tʰʊŋ˩ jyː˩˧jiːn˩hɔk̚˨ jɐt̚˥jœːŋ˧ kɐm˧ siː˧˥]
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Re: Post your conlang's phonology
Having /tθ/ but no /θ/ seems strange to me.
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Tha cvastam émi cvastam santham amal phelsa. -- Friedrich Schiller
ESTAR-3SG:P human-OBJ only human-OBJ true-OBJ REL-LOC play-3SG:A
Re: Post your conlang's phonology
Is it too strange to be feasible? Would a sound change of all /θ/ to /tθ/ be possible? Thanks!WeepingElf wrote:Having /tθ/ but no /θ/ seems strange to me.
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[sɔː˥ ŋɔː˩˧ tiː˥ jɪŋ˥mɐn˧˥ tʰʊŋ˩ jyː˩˧jiːn˩hɔk̚˨ jɐt̚˥jœːŋ˧ kɐm˧ siː˧˥]
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[sɔː˥ ŋɔː˩˧ tiː˥ jɪŋ˥mɐn˧˥ tʰʊŋ˩ jyː˩˧jiːn˩hɔk̚˨ jɐt̚˥jœːŋ˧ kɐm˧ siː˧˥]
sor(ry) 1.SG POSS English and linguistics same DEM.ADJ shit
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Here is it:
1. No allophones.
2. vowels become long after h, ch or k.
Rules:1. No allophones.
2. vowels become long after h, ch or k.
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Man, we're not blind.
Also, you have /t/, /s/, /tʃ/ and no /ts/ - porquoi?
Also, you have /t/, /s/, /tʃ/ and no /ts/ - porquoi?
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Re: Post your conlang's phonology
That's because old Anelikachtik tsʲ > t͡ʃ.
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Also, I am new to the attachment stuff..
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Re: Post your conlang's phonology
But where is the normal /ts/ ?legolasean wrote:That's because old Anelikachtik tsʲ > t͡ʃ.
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Legolasean, do your speakers lack lips?
And shouldn't /n/ be in the nasal rather than approximant row?
Bad rule, unless this is a philosolang or somewhat intentionally unnaturalistic. For instance, having no rhotics, it wouldn't be hard for /l/ to turn into some somewhere or have free variation (c.f. Japanese).legolasean wrote:Rules:
1. No allophones.
And shouldn't /n/ be in the nasal rather than approximant row?
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I don't think it's strange beyond feasibility, /θ/ is kind of unstable by itself, but it's ok.Kaenif wrote:Is it too strange to be feasible? Would a sound change of all /θ/ to /tθ/ be possible? Thanks!WeepingElf wrote:Having /tθ/ but no /θ/ seems strange to me.
I've researched a little and while /tθ/ is rare, it's attested and at least one of the languages in which it's attested lacks /θ/, the Luo language. I'm not sure whether they are talking about allophones or phonemes but I guess it's alright.
Also you said any consonant for codas, so that means affricates like /dz/ can end syllables too? Just curious, nothing wrong with it.
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It's great to hear that, thanks!Eandil wrote:I don't think it's strange beyond feasibility, /θ/ is kind of unstable by itself, but it's ok.Kaenif wrote:Is it too strange to be feasible? Would a sound change of all /θ/ to /tθ/ be possible? Thanks!
I've researched a little and while /tθ/ is rare, it's attested and at least one of the languages in which it's attested lacks /θ/, the Luo language. I'm not sure whether they are talking about allophones or phonemes but I guess it's alright.
Also you said any consonant for codas, so that means affricates like /dz/ can end syllables too? Just curious, nothing wrong with it.
Yes, any consonant can end syllables. Words like /dzuːdz/ "erase, take away" and /tθatɬ/ "red" exist. I know it makes morphophonology (and pronunciation) even tougher, but meh.
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[sɔː˥ ŋɔː˩˧ tiː˥ jɪŋ˥mɐn˧˥ tʰʊŋ˩ jyː˩˧jiːn˩hɔk̚˨ jɐt̚˥jœːŋ˧ kɐm˧ siː˧˥]
sor(ry) 1.SG POSS English and linguistics same DEM.ADJ shit
[sɔː˥ ŋɔː˩˧ tiː˥ jɪŋ˥mɐn˧˥ tʰʊŋ˩ jyː˩˧jiːn˩hɔk̚˨ jɐt̚˥jœːŋ˧ kɐm˧ siː˧˥]
sor(ry) 1.SG POSS English and linguistics same DEM.ADJ shit
Re: Post your conlang's phonology
Well, don't worry about it. English does it all the time xD. (cats, dogs, match, judge, ...)Kaenif wrote:Yes, any consonant can end syllables. Words like /dzuːdz/ "erase, take away" and /tθatɬ/ "red" exist. I know it makes phonomorphology (and pronunciation) even tougher, but meh.
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Let me to introduce you to this little linguistical area; it's called the American Northwest.Eandil wrote:Legolasean, do your speakers lack lips?
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Oh, languages without labials? Is legolasean's conlang part of that American language (family(-ies))?Elector Dark wrote:Let me to introduce you to this little linguistical area; it's called the American Northwest.
'cause unless it is, my question stands. It's an interesting possibility.
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Ugh.Eandil wrote:Oh, languages without labials? Is legolasean's conlang part of that American language family?Elector Dark wrote:Let me to introduce you to this little linguistical area; it's called the American Northwest.
'cause unless it is, my question stands. It's an interesting possibility.
He has a rounded /o/, so you've failed big time
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Can't a lipless species produce a rounded vowel by rounding the mouth hole? You're unimaginative.Elector Dark wrote:Ugh.
He has a rounded /o/, so you've failed big time
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