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I've never put this here before. Nothing too exciting.

Ahu (formerly known as Xuáli):

Vowels
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i     u
e     o
   a
/i/ and /u/ become non-syllabic /i̯~j/ and /u̯~w/ when unstressed and adjacent to another vowel.
/ii/ and /uu/ may be pronounced as long vowels (as all other sets of identical adjacent vowels). Alternatively, for some speakers, the syllabic vowel of the pair dissimilates to [ɨ] or [ʉ] (for /i/ and /u/ respectively). When there is a series of two adjacent, unstressed high vowels between consonants, which one is syllabic is largely a matter of choice, with most speakers preferring [ju] and [wi] over [iw] and [uj], although a preceding post-alveolar consonant tends to prevent /i/ from becoming non-syllabic.

Consonants
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m    n     ŋ
b    d     g
p    t     k
     dz dʒ
     ts tʃ
  v  z  ʒ
  f  s  ʃ     h
     l
     ɾ
/ɾ/ only appears intervocally or, in well-assimilated loan-words, before a heteroorganic consonant (for example: /ʃaɾka/ is legal, /ʃaɾta/ is not).
/p/ /g/ and /f/ occur fairly infrequently in the lexicon

Syllables and Sandhi
Unter a phonetic analysis, syllables are (C)V(C). A phonemic analysis expands this to (C)(S)V(S)(C) (where (S) is an optional semivowel).

Any consonant may begin a syllable.

The only consonants that may end a syllable are /m n ŋ t k v z ʒ f s ʃ l/

Final /t/ and /k/ are pronounced with no audible release. They may be pronounced [d] and [g] before voiced sounds in the next syllable, although this is subject to a great deal of dialectic variation. When this occurs within the same word, they are generally written as <d> and <g> (their equivalents in the native script), such as <zadvau> 'writes something illegal' (from /zat/ 'writes' + /vau/ 'commits a crime')

/p/ is disallowed at the end of a syllable as syllable final /p/ turned into /v/ a while back, however, /p/ may end a syllable if the following syllable also begins with /p/ giving rise to /p.p/, which, like other consonants doubled across syllable boundaries, becomes pronounced as a geminate: /pː/.

Through the processes of compounding, two stops placed together were first assimilated to the POA and voicing of the latter consonant, creating a geminate consonant. Geminate stops were subsequently devoiced. For example: /tʃaɾak/ 'is a lizard' + /dak/ 'is a frog' = /tʃaɾattak/ 'is a newt'. (/tʃaɾakdak/ > /tʃaɾaddak/ > /tʃaɾattak/)

Word final /t/ and /k/ are voiced to /ɾ/ and /g/ with the addition of an oblique suffix. For example:

/ʃak/ 'swallows' > /ʃagai/ 'swallows it.INAN'
/zat/ 'writes' > /zaɾai/ 'writes it'

Occasionally, a historical affricate resurfaces from /t/. For example:
/pat/ 'swats' > /patsas/ 'swats it.ANIM'

In the two lower registers, xux ('the speech of men') and xubal ('the speech of soldiers'), the attributive particle e sometimes also causes these changes to take place. The attributive particle is then written as a suffix.

Sequences of the alveolar stops, affricates and plosives followed by a non-syllabic /i/ typically merge with the postalveolar consonants, losing the /i/

/di/ > /dʒ/
/dzi/ > /dʒ/
/ti/ > /tʃ/
/tsi/ > /tʃ/
/zi/ > /ʒ/
/si/ > /ʃ/

Women tend to avoid this, frequently preserving both sounds, although it depends on the word.

The post-alveolar consonants make distinguishing an immediately following, non-syllabic /i/ difficult. This causes /i/, to retain its syllabicity (Hi, Spell-checker! Thanks for checking up on me! Nope, I'm fine, thanks.) in these places.

Word stress
In underived native root words, stress always falls on the first vowel. However, there are many derivational infixes which are inserted into the word immediately before the stressed vowel and do not take the stress. Proper nouns formed from appositional phrases may retain the original stress. Loanwords also retain original stress. In all of these instances, stress is marked orthographically when it is not on the initial vowel of a word.

Sentence stress
Sentences frequently contain stretches of contentives separated by functors ('particles'). In a stretch of contentives (an appositional phrase), the last contentive takes the main stress.
Glossing Abbreviations: COMP = comparative, C = complementiser, ACS / ICS = accessible / inaccessible, GDV = gerundive, SPEC / NSPC = specific / non-specific
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Well, I have done a phonology of Pxoráp(Catlalicút v2).

Consonants

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m n
p t k kʷ q ʔ
p' t' k' q'
t͡s t͡ɬ	t͡ʃ
t͡s' t͡ɬ'	t͡ʃ'
s ɬ ʃ 
ɾ
w
/ɾ/ appears only after an another consonant.
/w/ is intervocalically a [v].
/ɬ/ is a [l] after a labial or a coronal consonant and before a non-front vowel and a [ʟ] after a dorsal consonant.
/ɬ/ is a [λ] after a labial or a coronal consonant and before a front vowel.
/n t t' k k' t͡ʃ t͡ʃ' s ʃ/ are [ɲ c c' t͡ʃ t͡ʃ' t͡ɕ t͡ɕ' ɕ] before a front vowel.
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ɪ iː ʊ uː ɛ eː ɔ oː ä äː

/ɪ iː ɛ eː ä äː/ are [ᵻ ɨː ə əː ɑ ɑː] after an uvular consonant.
/ä äː ɛ eː/ are [jä jäː jɛ jeː] word-initially.
/ʊ ɔ/ are [ʊ̜ ʌ] between sonorants in unstressed syllables.
/ɪ iː ɛ eː/ are [ʏ yː œ øː] after /kʷ/ in stressed syllables.
/ɪ iː/ are intervocalically [j jː]
Syllables
The syllable structure of Pxoráp is (C)(C)V(C).
Permitted syllable onsets are Cɾ where C stands for any pulmonic consonant except /ɾ/,heterorganic stop+stop,stop+fricative and stop+affricate clusters and any homorganic fricative+stop.
The onset rules above are not valid for ejectives and /ʔ/.They may only be an onset per se.
The only consonants that can be a syllable coda are /m n s ɬ ʃ ɾ w/.
Stress is irregular in monosyllabic words.
Stress falls on the first syllable in bisyllabic words.
Stress falls on the next-to-last syllable in words with 3+ syllables,except if the next-to-last syllable has a coda.Then the stress falls to the last syllable.
Sandhi
/ts tɬ tʃ/ become /t͡s t͡ɬ t͡ʃ/.
/mp nt/ become /b d/.
/ɪɪ ʊʊ ɛɛ ɔɔ ää/ become /iː uː eː oː äː/.
CLVɾLV becomes CɾLV.
C-consonant
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Quosaw has 28 vowels: /ə e ɛ i o ɔ u a: e: ɛ: i: o: ɔ: u:/ plus their nasal counterparts.
Coincidentally it has 28 consonants as well:
/b tɕ d f g ɢ ʁ ʕ h x~χ ħ dʑ k l m n ŋ ɲ ɴ p q s ɕ t θ w j z/
Quosaw uses the Roman alphabet with a few extra letters:
a e ɛ i o ɔ u â ê ɛ̂ î ô ɔ̂ û + ƞ for nasal vowels
b c d f g ĝ ĝh ʿ h qh ʿh j k l m n (ng) ñ (nĝ) p q s ŝ t th w y z

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Ambrisio: So, to make that into a legible chart, you've got:

/p t tɕ k q
b d dʑ g ɢ
f θ s ɕ x ħ h
z ʁ ʕ
m n ɲ ŋ ɴ
l
w j/

plus the vowels. Nothing too unrealistic or bizarre there (the distribution of the voiced fricatives is odd, but not unnaturally odd, just unusual). You should get into the habit of writing up inventories like I did above (grouping the consonants of the same manner of articulation together on each line, and then within each line, ordering the consonants by point of articulation, moving from front to back) -- it makes it a lot easier for other people to quickly visualize the information you're presenting, rather than just being confronted with a pile of random, disorganized phonemes.

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Well, Whim beat me to it…

Actually it kind of looks like the approximants could be consolidated with the v. fric. series: /w l j/ standing in place of ˣv ˣð ˣʑ.

I still don't remember if a contrast of /ŋ ɴ/, or /ɢ ʁ/ for that matter, is actually attested anywhere.
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For Chainduran:
(Parentheses signify allophones)

Stops: /p̪ t k ʔ p̪ʰ tʰ kʰ b̪ d g b̪ʱ dʱ gʱ/ <p t k ' ph th kh b d g bh dh gh>
Fricatives: /f s x h v z ɣ ɦ/ <f s x h v z x h>
Nasals: /ɱ n ŋ/ <m n ñ>
Approximants: /ʋ/ <w>
Trills: /r̥ r/ <r r>
Lateral fricatives: /ɬ ɮ/ <l l>
Affricates: /p̪͡f t͡s k͡x ʔ͡h b̪͡v d͡z g͡ɣ p̪͡ɬ t͡ɬ k͡ɬ b̪͡ɮ d͡ɮ g͡ɮ/ <pf ts kx 'h bv dz gx pl tl kl bl dl gl>

Vowels: /a aː i iː e̞ e̞ː o oː u uː æ æː œ œː y yː ɑ ɑː ɔ ɔː ʊ(ɯ) ʊː(ɯː)/ <a aa i ii e ee o oo u uu ä ää ö öö ü üü â ââ ô ôô û ûû>

The syllable structure is C(C)V(N) with N being any nasal.

Allowed initial consonants and clusters are: /p̪ t k ʔ p̪ʰ tʰ kʰ f s x h ɱ n ŋ ʋ r̥ ɬ p̪͡f t͡s k͡x ʔ͡h p̪͡ɬ t͡ɬ k͡ɬ pr̥ tr̥ kr̥/

All but /m n ŋ ʋ/ are voiced only when following a nasal. If a nasal is followed by a stop, a fricative, or an affricate, its pronounciation changes according to the stop/fricative/affricate's place of articulation. Eg: <ânbaa'ô> is pronounced /ʔɑɱˈb̪aːʔɔ/.

Stress is always on the first syllable that has a long vowel. If the word has no long vowels, it's on the first syllable.

(I've never seen anybody else use a glottal affricate before. Is it that rare?)


I also kind of made a phoneme inventory for another thing I'm thinking of making. It's sort of supposed to sound a bit alien:
(Parentheses signify allophones)(~ means it's somewhere in between the two)

Stops: /t͡k c~k q p̪/ <t c q p>
Fricatives: /ɧ̬ ʐ~ʝ ɣ~ʁ β/ <s z g v>
Nasals: /n ɲ ŋ~ɴ m~ɱ/ <n ɲ ŋ m>
Approximants: /j ɹ ɑ̯/ <j r w>
Trills: /r ʀ ʙ/ <ṛ ř b>
Lateral fricatives: /ɮ/ <l>

Vowels: /i(ɨ ɯ) ə(œ o) ɑ(a ä)/ <i o a>

The fricatives and the nasals can be syllabic, and can, just like the vowels, hold one of 3 tones. Ther's the high tone, signified by an acute accent, the mid tone, and the low tone, signified by a grave accent. Other tones are a combination of the other 3. Eg: an i with high rising-full falling tone would be represented by <iíì>.

Keep in mind that these representations are just approximations, as I don't exactly, only sort of, know how the creatures I have in mind for this lang would actually pronounce the sounds.


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Tropylium wrote:Actually it kind of looks like the approximants could be consolidated with the v. fric. series: /w l j/ standing in place of ˣv ˣð ˣʑ.
It could make sense, given that /w/ and /j/ pattern with the voiced stops /p/ and /tɕ/, such as pay-a "fear" and awy-a "fearlessness", and cal- "shiny" and ayl- "dull", but it is the voiced fricative /z/ (rather than /l/) that patterns with /t/ (as in tɔm "must" and azɔm "must not").

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Tropylium wrote:I still don't remember if a contrast of /ŋ ɴ/, or /ɢ ʁ/ for that matter, is actually attested anywhere.
/ŋ ɴ/ contrast in Greenlandic, but that's the only example I know of. /ɢ ʁ/ contrast in Tsakhur, but that's NEC.
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Esmelthien wrote:For Chainduran:
(Parentheses signify allophones)

Stops: /p̪ t k ʔ p̪ʰ tʰ kʰ b̪ d g b̪ʱ dʱ gʱ/ <p t k ' ph th kh b d g bh dh gh>
Fricatives: /f s x h v z ɣ ɦ/ <f s x h v z x h>
Nasals: /ɱ n ŋ/ <m n ñ>
Approximants: /ʋ/ <w>
Trills: /r̥ r/ <r r>
Lateral fricatives: /ɬ ɮ/ <l l>
Affricates: /p̪͡f t͡s k͡x ʔ͡h b̪͡v d͡z g͡ɣ p̪͡ɬ t͡ɬ k͡ɬ b̪͡ɮ d͡ɮ g͡ɮ/ <pf ts kx 'h bv dz gx pl tl kl bl dl gl>

Vowels: /a aː i iː e̞ e̞ː o oː u uː æ æː œ œː y yː ɑ ɑː ɔ ɔː ʊ(ɯ) ʊː(ɯː)/ <a aa i ii e ee o oo u uu ä ää ö öö ü üü â ââ ô ôô û ûû>

The syllable structure is C(C)V(N) with N being any nasal.

Allowed initial consonants and clusters are: /p̪ t k ʔ p̪ʰ tʰ kʰ f s x h ɱ n ŋ ʋ r̥ ɬ p̪͡f t͡s k͡x ʔ͡h p̪͡ɬ t͡ɬ k͡ɬ pr̥ tr̥ kr̥/[/code]
That is not how affricates work… /ʔh/ is only attested as a cluster AFAIK and /gɣ/ not even as that (okay sure there's probably an NC lang that allows it, but that aside…) — and if you're analyzing /pr̥ tr̥ kr̥/ as clusters, you might as well apply the same to the affricates anyway.
Esmelthien wrote:All but /m n ŋ ʋ/ are voiced only when following a nasal.
Well then you have no phonemic voicing.
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Nortaneous wrote:/ŋ ɴ/ contrast in Greenlandic, but that's the only example I know of. /ɢ ʁ/ contrast in Tsakhur, but that's NEC.
Neither of them are Indo-European, however. Is there an Indo-European language with a uvular series and no rhotics?

@Esmelthien: Do you imagine the speakers of your conlang with similar vocal tracts to humans? If otherwise, there is probably no need to think about what is attested in human languages.

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Vowels
Short: /a~ə ʊ~ə ɔ y ɪ/ <a u o ï i>
Long: /ɑ: u: i:/ <ā ū ī>

Consonants
/θ k ɡ x ɣ r t̪ d̪ w h n ŋ m l ɬ/ <th k g kh gh r t d w h n ng m l ll>

Most consonant clusters are illegal. Only "rg" is regularly used and only exists in a medial or final position. Typical phonotactic constraints are (C)V(V)(C)

When an H is final position and after a vowel it represents the breathy voice (◌̤)

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Ambrisio wrote:
Nortaneous wrote:/ŋ ɴ/ contrast in Greenlandic, but that's the only example I know of. /ɢ ʁ/ contrast in Tsakhur, but that's NEC.
Neither of them are Indo-European, however. Is there an Indo-European language with a uvular series and no rhotics?
Don't think there's an IE lang without rhotics, or with uvulars at all, besides the obvious rhotic and maybe Arabic loans.
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/m n n͡m ŋ ŋ͡m/
/p t t͡p t͡ɕ k k͡p ʔ/
/β ð ɣ w l j/
/i e a o u ɨ ə/

All consonants can be rounded in the onset except /ʔ w l j/. Syllable structure is (C)V(C), where any consonant can be in the onset, and the codas are /m n ŋ β ð ɣ w j t ʔ/. Vowels can appear with three tones; low, mid, and high. When vowels appear in open syllables, they are long, and high and low tones become mid-rising and mid-falling respectively. The codas /w j/ never occur with either of /i u/, but either may occur with any other vowel.

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Here is the phonology of Uyendur, a language I've recently been inspired to create, to fill a gap in the conworld map:

Consonants:

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aspirated:  tʰ pʰ kʰ
stiff:      d̬  b̬  ǧ
slack:      d̥  b̥  g̊
nasal:      n  m  ŋ
fricative:  χ, (s)*
liquid:     l  r
semivowels: y  w
*not in main dialect

I knew I wanted a three-way contrast in stops, and after pronouncing several of them, this one seemed to fit with my idea of how the language should sound.

Vowels:

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i   ɨː  u̞
e  ə/əː o
    ʚː
   a/aː
I'm not sure I like having phonemic length in only two vowels. Does that sort of thing exist?

Incidentally, this language is written in a script I evolved from zyxw59's Elaw alphabet. Since the languages' phonologies don't match at all, it's been interesting forcing the language onto the script and creating spelling idiosyncrasies.

Edit: changed [ɨ] to [ɨː]
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clawgrip wrote:

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i   ɨ   u̞
e  ə/əː o
    ʚː
   a/aː
I'm not sure I like having phonemic length in only two vowels. Does that sort of thing exist?
I believe Vietnamese, or at least a few varieties, is analyzed as having length distinction only in two vowels (and the same vowels that you use length distinction with), but that's only from what I've read. So it is attested.
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It seems to me like those vowels in Vietnamese end up with a phonetic distinction as well, but I'm sure it's just a length difference for some speakers.

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A few NWC langs supposedly have a vowel system of /a: a @/, but in reality it's more like a long low vowel, a short mid vowel, and a short high vowel.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ossetic_language
Ossetic lanuage has /q qw/
Bah, damn Caucasian langs.

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Thanks. I'll have to think about what I want to do with this.

(note that [ɨ] was actually supposed to be [ɨː]; I just messed up)

All the long vowels (which are also central vowels) originate from centralizing diphthongs that arose from various vowel mergers. However, since there were already two short central vowels, /a/ and /ə/, this resulted in length becoming a phonemic distinction in these two cases. So I'm not sure if I want to keep the length distinction or remove it.

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I'd say it's fine; it's unstable, sure, but not unrealistic.

Another example: Standard German only has length distinctions in /a a:/ and maybe /E E:/, although there's still obviously remnants of a former robust length distinction.
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Also, I forgot, Australian English has a phonemic length distinction in only a couple vowels as well.

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Re: Post your conlang's phonology

Post by Plusquamperfekt »

Hey people,

http://vocaroo.com/i/s0hqB1YMsQAd

Today I've made a little recording. For the moment I won't publish any text or my phonology so that you can listen to it without being biased (which won't be possible anyway in case you've already read the Miwonša thread ;) ). You would really do me a great favor if you could tell me which natlangs the sound of my conlang reminds you of. If you need a longer recording to be able to judge, I can upload something else tomorrow.

Thank you!

edit:
I found something else, a small but famous poem... you can try to find out which lines I'm quoiting:
http://vocaroo.com/i/s0r9MbphLpNH (please do not take that recording too serious! :D!

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Re: Post your conlang's phonology

Post by maıráí »

Plusquamperfekt wrote:Today I've made a little recording.

I like the sound of Miwonša, a lot. It's not exactly "pretty", but it sounds like something fun or pleasing to speak, which is better.

For some bizarre reason, it reminds me of Korean. |:

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Re: Post your conlang's phonology

Post by Plusquamperfekt »

Thank you very much,
well, my opinion is that everyone has different ideas about what is pretty... but you're absolutely right - it was not my aim at all to create an extremely complex phonology (I would get pretty frustrated if I had to devote so much time on a conlang of which I can't pronounce two words in a row), but something which sounds beautiful to my own ears and which I can pronounce easily although the phonology has almost nothing in common with my native language. ;)

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