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na ke tohyone uehak
[na: ke: to'hʲo:ne 'we:ɦak]
1sg OBJ choose.should want.NEG
I don't wanna have to choose.

E ena 'Nova Scotia' kam.
y əːna noʊvə skoʊʃə kæm
1s to.be Nova Scotia at.the.location.of
I am in Nova Scotia.


Ena enissar tari
əːna əːnɪsær tærʌi
to.be excellent this.location
It is lovely here.
(alternatively)
tari enissar
tærʌi əːnɪsær
this.location is.excellent
it is lovely here

(adjectives can be used as verbs)

E ena Vancouver enidit solpmukut
y əːna væ̃n.kuʊvɚr əːnɪdɪt sɔlp̚.mɯkɯt
1s to.be Vancouver to.go-fut more-1-time/day
I am going to Vancouver tomorrow.

E ena Vancouver setirrep
y əːna væ̃n.kuʊvɚr sətirɛp
1s to.be Vancouver to.inhabit.past
I lived in Vancouver


E destra elet solmeta
y dəs.tɾa əlɛt sɔl.meɪta
1s to.have.opinion.that at.that.location more-nice
I think it is nicer there.
(alternatively)
E ena elet destra solmeta
y əːna əlɛt dəs.tɾa sɔl.meɪta
1s to.be at.that.location to.have.opinion.that to.be.more-nice
I think it is nicer there.


edit: grammatical mistake while translating.

iyomalo na ke maka palatayo nomoha
[ijo'ma:lo na: ke 'ma:ka pala'ta:jo no'mo:ha]
PROX.day.PL 1sg OBJ music India.GEN like.AUG
These days I am really liking Indian music.

intusar swašnyatya rötya tšayëwgni, ënaye... kwir boliwtašya sir.
['intusaɾin 'sʷaʃɲatʲa 'ɾɔtʲa tʃa'jɛwgni 'ɛnaje kʷiɾ 'boliwtaʃʲa siɾ]
india-thing-adj music.abs-plural.indef pron(weak)plural.indef good-good.adj , but.instead few bollywood-gen neg.
Indian music is awesome, well though some from bollywood are not.


~Lyra

Lyra wrote:intusar swašnyatya rötya tšayëwgni, ënaye... kwir boliwtašya sir.
['intusaɾin 'sʷaʃɲatʲa 'ɾɔtʲa tʃa'jɛwgni 'ɛnaje kʷiɾ 'boliwtaʃʲa siɾ]
india-thing-adj music.abs-plural.indef pron(weak)plural.indef good-good.adj , but.instead few bollywood-gen neg.
Indian music is awesome, well though some from bollywood are not.

na ke maka nyetsin palatayo mo'ayene
I should have specified classical Indian music.

Sgurach, sen gedhar cráin,
sen luaith thallar sith?
Rhasgadan dremmaig?
An rhasgad mo ith,
cem vars ys na ir?

Old Dwarf
skurax sɛn gɛðər kʁɑɪn,
sen luɛθ θaɫər sɪθ
r̥askadən dʁɛmmɛk
an r̥askat mo ɪθ,
kɛm vars ɪs na ɪr
Modern Dwarfish
ʂurɐ sɛ gɛhɐ ɣɑɪ̃n,
sɛ luɛ: haɫɑɻʂə
haʂʈə xɛmmɛk
an haʂʈə moɪ,
kɛ vɑɻʂ ɪs na ɪ:

Mucking around with sound changes. Nothing technical - I'm not knowledgable enough to be doing this with any sort of technical rationale. Does it look possible/plausible/pronouncable?

na ke muyatli uamek
[na: ke mu'ja:tɬi 'wa:mek]
1sg OBJ do-FUT be.certain-NEG
I am unsure what to do.

Ämari! Ädjeradj dal nun betran varet, sø maklagad dal lan ala fedisa.
[jamari jaʒeraʒ dal nun betran varet sø maklagad dal lan ala fedisa]
INTJ join-PST 1SG-NOM just this-ACC forum INTJ look.forward-PRES 1SG-NOM 2PL-ACC all meet-INF
Hello! I have just joined this forum so I look forward to meeting you all.

uatsa!
['wa:tʃa]
Welcome!

*Edit: thank you finlay and masako. To clarify, qã is both a word meaning person, and a root used in reflexive constructions, essentially meaning "self". I'm not sure why I decided it should translate as selves rather than simply "all persons" or even just "everyone" since that's really all the word means. I was complicating things a bit too much myself, it seems.

Skaod:
Vȩãtrȩ, Daqinam. Yudôdæt sărhȩ, drōkrã vȩãtrȩ tuqã
[Hello, Daqinam. 1SG-incidental new-too, therefore hello everyone]
Hello, Daqinam. I'm new as well, so hello everyone.

http://www.eva.mpg.de/lingua/resources/ ... -rules.php
this is the set of rules we usually follow. essentially, a space means a new word, a hyphen means a new morpheme (ie wordbit such as a root or a suffix), and a dot means a single morpheme that can't be divided in the target language but can in the glossing language (ie English with all the little abbreviations). there is a list of abbreviations that can be used on that website, but don't feel you have to restrict yourself to them. there are also a bunch of other rules that you don't need to worry about too much. (also, we don't really mind too much or at all seriously if you can't do it "properly", so relax!

for your one there, I'd go:
hello , Daqinam . 1SG-INCIDENTAL new-too , therefore hello all.selves
with the caveat that I don't really know what you mean by "allselves" - a reflexive of "everybody"? but since it's two words in English i've taken the liberty of showing you how the dot could be used. 1SG (you can also use 1S) is an abbreviation of 1st person singular. You could also write 1.SG (ie, one morpheme that carries a 1st person and singular meaning together) but this isn't normal. If 1st person and singular are both represented by a separate morpheme, you could write 1-SG. You'd do this if, for instance, your word for "I" is yudô, "we" is yuba, singular "you" is tudô and plural "you" is tuba – since here it is clear that "yu" means first person, "tu" means second person, "dô" means singular and "ba" means plural. However, if your word for "we" is something like "qȩnæt", it's completely different from "yudô" and you have to use the first way.

made this too complicated, oh well. welcome.

IndieAuthor wrote:I'm new at glosses, so I please let me know if I've done something wrong(against convention, at any rate)
Skaod:
Vȩãtrȩ, Daqinam. Yudôdæt sărhȩ, drōkrã vȩãtrȩ tuqã
[Hello, Daqinam. 1st person sing+incidental suffix New+too suffix, therefore hello allselves]

Hello, Daqinam. I'm new as well, so hello everyone.

Welcome.

Please read this page: http://www.eva.mpg.de/lingua/resources/ ... -rules.php

also, a quick primer:

jal wrote:Examples of hypen vs. period:

he was
3 be.PST

he walk-ed
3 walk-PST

Hyphens occur in both source and gloss, at the same location (morpheme boundaries), dots only occur in the gloss.

finlay wrote:made this too complicated

Quite.

Daqinam wrote:Ämari! Ädjeradj dal nun betran varet, sø maklagad dal lan ala fedisa.
[jamari jaʒeraʒ dal nun betran varet sø maklagad dal lan ala fedisa]
INTJ join-PST 1SG-NOM just this-ACC forum INTJ look.forward-PRES 1SG-NOM 2PL-ACC all meet-INF
Hello! I have just joined this forum so I look forward to meeting you all.

holy crap your first post is a glossed conlang sample??
best noob ever!

uh i will post something conlangy here later

Kereb wrote:

Daqinam wrote:Ämari! Ädjeradj dal nun betran varet, sø maklagad dal lan ala fedisa.
[jamari jaʒeraʒ dal nun betran varet sø maklagad dal lan ala fedisa]
INTJ join-PST 1SG-NOM just this-ACC forum INTJ look.forward-PRES 1SG-NOM 2PL-ACC all meet-INF
Hello! I have just joined this forum so I look forward to meeting you all.

holy crap your first post is a glossed conlang sample??
best noob ever!

uh i will post something conlangy here later

Aha! Kafad dal u Daqinamspäkvaret edstral sørlit.
[aha kafad dal u daxinamspjakvaret edstral sørlit]
INTJ go-PRES 1SG-NOM PREP imagination-language-forum other also
Aha! I go on other conlang forums aswell

Nai fixisc yâc feigoyon di bylvi łigôndho Rômannev, fyr cjolanir gâlmylônalon "sobjecto-objecto-adogâlma" xibe ɽin łigôndho Tyrcis yt ɽoneco? Orer tetri yâc, cyno nomav SOA ma cjolanidôr ɽin łigôndhore aglotinady

What do you think of the idea of creating a romanic language which uses the syntax "subject-object-verb" like f.e. in Turkish language? I doubt about it, because usually SOV is used in agglutinative languages

el flokratisson wrote:I doubt about it, because usually SOV is used in agglutinative languages

chē, haal i hēchish ya le mīmoch `uku SOV ba non pōsh i kweLatin
well, let's remember that Latin liked to be SOV a lot of the time

o kun notsuk e `aka pi`ichītbī ēts, nan e Farsi, Punjabi, Tibetan, o hā
and there's other not-very-agglutinative languages like F, P, T, etc

Se ahresųateru on oramasa alasta uuojenu verbide vjeroat se enku inahmu vjeroa substantiivide, to rettu? Voonun seo okas on sei alastaan enjenumu niru!
It's probably logical to have the ending for the plural of stative verbs be the same as the plural marker on nouns, right? I hope it isn't problematic that it's also the ending for the first person singular!

perien - I arrive
oman - houses
naitsi / currently: auton runet - red cars
ahresųasipaa to? / maybe more logical?: auton runen

To no enkuseemaųa partitiivi verbide vjeroat, omõ alas -t kiidaisupaa noks: autod runet. To tauko ree sois?
What about partitive agreement on stative verbs, where perhaps the -t ending is reserved for: autod runet - some red cars. Does any language do this?

Súvas, aham sam cis tat-súlmahá-vaha-sahridrta-vimodár dur bhavyusma? *butas*
Wait, I thought this was the your-conlang-fluency-help-board? *confused*

@Abaddamn: Bettrun ngoulgõns qõslinḳoldrõ nros tri? Nuudrõ tosipai Sänskrit ḳoltrun tri.
What is the name of your conlang? It sure looks like Sanskrit.

(Ideally Proto-Ginösic doesn't have wh-movement but I found myself using it anyway. Maybe the later Ginösic dialects should have them.)

abaddamn wrote:Súvas, aham sam cis tat-súlmahá-vaha-sahridrta-vimodár dur bhavyusma? *butas*
Wait, I thought this was the your-conlang-fluency-help-board? *confused*

Swa ler warn kyang dang wuach swa.
language belong self use then discuss language
They are using their own languages to talk about language.

@Abaddamn: Bettrun ngoulgõns qõslinḳoldrõ nros tri? Nuudrõ tosipai Sänskrit ḳoltrun tri.
What is the name of your conlang? It sure looks like Sanskrit.

Mava sulmahayum amitas Sáshvrmahás. (Sammahár, Ommahás, Tebadmahás kaiva ca)
My conlang's name is Saashvirmahaa. (Also Sammahaa, Ommahaa, or even Tebadmahaa)

Ya, tvam yas. Tam Samskrtamahavam tebadam-uta, sebad aham mahem mastrum mahartrum bhújhetrum ca bhúdarthusmi.
Yes, you're right. It was originally from Sanskrit, so I could learn to speak, read and understand it.

...using their own languages to talk about language.

Mahámahá!
Langception! (Language-Language)

Notsi se! Aga aiđan purulimmesta mun taustamas đaanesja tauųa śauks To seo mita lennuki? Yrenittampaa lajatsi enkuseemad uuojenu verbide vjeroa, sois
It is! And I'm helping my fluency by translating linguistics questions into Sjal Isn't that the idea of this thread? Maybe I'll just dump number agreement for stative verbs entirely, like this

Ngoulmäk tri Sänskrit ḳol?!
You can speak Sanskrit?!

clawgrip wrote:

abaddamn wrote:Súvas, aham sam cis tat-súlmahá-vaha-sahridrta-vimodár dur bhavyusma? *butas*
Wait, I thought this was the your-conlang-fluency-help-board? *confused*

Swa ler warn kyang dang wuach swa.
language belong self use then discuss language
They are using their own languages to talk about language.

Za practica lèir-mismo limbar, lèin compatensa de limbar-c̦i meliurèrse.
if practice.3.PRS.SBJV 3.GEN-proper.M language | 3.GEN.F proficiency PART.M language-DEM improve.3.FUT
If one practices their own language, one's proficiency in said language will increase.

Ambrisio wrote:Ngoulmäk tri Sänskrit ḳol?!
You can speak Sanskrit?!

Samskṛtavāk: Om aham Saḿskṛtam kińcid vaktum śakyate. Idānīm api gacchāmi tu...
Sāșvrmahā: Yam Saḿskritāmahem kayam masthasmi. Svāra surasmi kana...
Yes, I can speak Sanskrit a bit. Still a long way to go though...