Post your conlang's phonology

[Herr Dunkel]

Ugh.
He has a rounded /o/, so you've failed big time

Can't a lipless species produce a rounded vowel by rounding the mouth hole?

So, they have elastic and actively mouldable mouths now?
You've gotten my interest.

[Thry]

Ugh.
He has a rounded /o/, so you've failed big time

Can't a lipless species produce a rounded vowel by rounding the mouth hole?

So, they have elastic and actively mouldable mouths now?
You've gotten my interest.

Great. That makes two of us. That's why I was asking the conlanger, who is who can answer whether the lack of labials is just random or something anatomical.

[legolasean]

Well. they are not lipsless... they just don't have labial consonants.

[Herr Dunkel]

You killjoy!

[Thry]

Awww. I wonder what the onomatopoeia for kissing is in labialless languages.

[brandrinn]

Awww. I wonder what the onomatopoeia for kissing is in labialless languages.

glarlorlalloglalorgl.

[Kaenif]

Awww. I wonder what the onomatopoeia for kissing is in labialless languages.

glarlorlalloglalorgl.

Now that's an excessively French kiss.

[Pinetree]

A new language I'm working on
Note: ()'s indicate phonological groupings, as related to syllable structure



Allophony:

[q ɢ qː χ χː] are allophones of /k g kː x xː/ (in that order):
Prior to or following a back vowel (/kok/ is pronounced [qoq])
Prior to a fronting diphthong (/xua/ is pronounced [χua])
Following a backing diphthong (/iug/ is pronounced [iuɢ])

/ɾ/ is in free allophony with [r ɽ ɹ ɻ]

[θ] is an allophone of /s/ following a vowel

[ð] is an allophone of /z/ following a vowel

Phonotactics

Syllable structure is (S)(P)(L)V(V)(C)|(C)(L)V(V)(C)

Long consonants may not follow one another in a word. In the case of affixes, in which the affix and the word to which it attaches create two abutting long consonants, the second long consonant is lenited to its voiced short equivalent

Front vowels and back vowels may not occur within the same word, excepting fronting and backing diphthongs, which may occur in either case.

[Whimemsz]

It looks good. I don't really have anything else to say about it other than that <ƺ> is pretty adorable and now I'm tempted to find an excuse to use it myself.

[Pinetree]

<ƺ> is pretty adorable

That's pretty much what I thought. I was scanning through the Character map for an appropriate symbol, and when that one wend past, i thought: that's the one. I'm using it.

[Herr Dunkel]

<ƺ> is pretty adorable

That's pretty much what I thought. I was scanning through the Character map for an appropriate symbol, and when that one wend past, i thought: that's the one. I'm using it.

It's pretty impractical, though.

[finlay]

oh riiiight you put back and front the wrong way round. that confused me for a second.

also ua should probably be on the same line of the chart as ia.

i'm also a bit sceptical of using ő for a back vowel.

[Pinetree]

oh riiiight you put back and front the wrong way round. that confused me for a second.

Oh. that's backwards? okay, will fix.

also ua should probably be on the same line of the chart as ia.

O, hay, i didn't catch that one, yeah,that would be falling, wouldn't it.

i'm also a bit sceptical of using ő for a back vowel.

Is there an 'o'-based symbol you would recommend?

e:fixed

[Nortaneous]

o-tilde (estonian /7/) or o-ogonek (old norse /Q/) would make more sense than o-hungarumlaut. there's also a-ring.

[Pinetree]

I guess <ǫ> would fit the aesthetic of what I've done with the consonants. Thanks.

[finlay]

I think [õ] for ǫ. õ would ironically be better because it's used for ɤ in estonian. å would be better than both though imo.

[Pinetree]

I think [õ] for ǫ. õ would ironically be better because it's used for ɤ in estonian. å would be better than both though imo.

Well, the Ogonek lines up with the undercurls (of both directions) present in the consonants, so I think it works best.

[Whimemsz]

I think [õ] for ǫ. õ would ironically be better because it's used for ɤ in estonian. å would be better than both though imo.

I agree with Hubris here. There's real-world precedent for <ǫ> as a non-nasal back rounded vowel (in Old Norse), although it is often used in other languages to represent a nasalized vowel. That's exactly the same situation with <õ> except that the Estonian vowel is LESS similar to [ɒ]. <å> would be fine because it's less ambiguous, but if <ǫ> fits in better with the general aesthetic form of Hubris' transcription, I don't see the problem. It's not like he won't have a thing somewhere explaining his transcription scheme. I dunno, I think people have a tendency to worry too much about minutiae of a conlang's transcription.

[Nortaneous]

Yeah. As long as it isn't completely absurd or noobish, it's fine.

Also I just read a thing prominently featuring Sollux and then went into this thread and got really confused.

[Chagen]

An inventory for a Northern Techarian language, inspired by Finnish:

/p t k q/ <p t k q>
/f ʋ s ʂ/ <f v s c>
/m n ɲ ɳ/ <m n ñ nl>
/ts ʈʂ/ <z tc>
/ɻ ɭ j w/ <r l j w>
/ʊ̯/<g>

/i e o ʉ ɑ y ø ɤ/ <i e o u a y ø ö>
/aɪ oɪ ʉɪ/ <ay oy uy>

...Well, it WAS inspired by Finnish at first...

No rules or phonotactics yet, but length is phonemic in vowels and plosives/fricatives/nasals and /ɭ/

[Vuvuzela]

/i e o ʉ ɑ y ø ɤ/ <i e o u a y ø ö>
/aɪ oɪ ʉɪ/ <ay oy uy>

...Well, it WAS inspired by Finnish at first...

No rules or phonotactics yet, but length is phonemic in vowels and plosives/fricatives/nasals and /ɭ/

Do you plan on making vowel harmony? 'Cause you could make a kickass vowel harmony system with these vowels.
EDIT: oops, thought it said ŋ

[Chagen]

I dunno, maybe. I've never done vowel harmony before and it make the Finnish ripping-off REALLY transparent.

There is a process where a rounded vowel cannot be next to a un-rounded one--in other words, /ky.et/ cannot be a word, but /kyt.et/ can be one.

[Kereb]

WELCOME BACK, CHAGEN!!!

We loved finding your page on ED. More of the same, this time around?

[Vuvuzela]

I dunno, maybe. I've never done vowel harmony before and it make the Finnish ripping-off REALLY transparent.

There is a process where a rounded vowel cannot be next to a un-rounded one--in other words, /ky.et/ cannot be a word, but /kyt.et/ can be one.

Finnish has front/ back harmony. I was thinking more along the lines of rounding harmony. You have the exact same number of rounded and unrounded vowels, so vowel harmony, besides being awesome, would be able to account for that symmetry.

[Whimemsz]

The one problem I have with that inventory is that you have front rounded vowels but no back rounded vowels. That's pretty weird. I don't know of any actual real-world examples of it (though it's probably not impossible...)