Help your conlang fluency (2)

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i'l son caiés soure té :P
;and asleep was fallen on you ;P

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Valébrandr.
Shut up, you smart alec.

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Hallow XIII wrote:I have a serial verb-compounding marked-absolutive language that places attributes on noun heads.

Your move.
NUKEG I-PALTOK-I-ŊALOD-KYOK-KIPITYK-KIPITYK-KIPITYK-KATEIB-KYOK-IK-I-PITYK-YK-KATEIB-YK-EKKI-Y-KIGIK-PODAL-ŊAOMMEIK-AŊ-NIGYT
1P.IMPFV.IND.carry ACC-([2P.PFV.COND.arrange ACC-{3P.IMPFV.IND.continue} {LOC.pattern LOC.pattern LOC.pattern word}] [POSS-{<【pattern】【word】> <PROL-three 【3P.PFV.IND.sound ACC.stone】>} language])
I have a triconsonantal, root-and-pattern language that lets you have roots within patterns, within patterns, within patterns, and so on...

PITYOK IKKYAK-EKKI-YK-GAGIDYAM-KIŊULMED-KINIGYT-PITYK
(NULL COPULA) ACC.pattern NOM-(PROL-[NEG{NULL COPULA}-NOM.few] LOC.eternity [LOC.language pattern])
Almost the entire grammar is patterns.
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Adúljôžal ônal kol ví éža únah kex yaxlr gmlĥ hôga jô ônal kru ansu frú.
Ansu frú ônal savel zaš gmlĥ a vek Adúljôžal vé jaga čaþ kex.
Ônal zeh. Ônal zeh. Ônal zeh. Ônal zeh. Ônal zeh. Ônal zeh. Ônal zeh.

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PATTERNCEPTION 8)

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Ee kanis kei, etinasenui kylyile na sinla.
Yo dawg, I heard you like patterns.

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Yau vrabbha, tvaau paṭakaṃś ćayasa hanusman, paṭakak-paṭakaanuf paṭakak-paṭakayhaai lānusman taybha.
Yo dawg, you patterns like - I heard, I pattern-pattern within pattern of patterns, I-made thusly.
(Yo dawg, I heard you like patterns, so I made a pattern of a pattern in a pattern of a pattern.)
Talāṃ leya kalakena rāmah, saktalām peha leya bhūmena ca.
See a world in a grain of sand, and a heaven in a wild flower.
Omkāṃs tava sutvantayam pharo, 'naiṃ le' jeś ca.
Hold infinity in the palm of your hand, and eternity in an hour.

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KathAveara wrote:Oxk havat nei zatzmiðleiðr ðiz ín zatzatlr.
And this syntax (still don't know if that's the right word) does not have the concept of a sentence.

To demonstrate with English, the sentence 'the cat sat on the mat' would become 'the cat sat; the mat was sat on.' Every string of speech is composed of 'phrases'. It doesn't matter in what order these are put in, so I could just as easily say 'the mat was sat on; the cat sat', and the meaning will not have changed. To make sure that it is known which verbs refer to the same action, markers are used. So, simplifying the English, we'd have 'cat sat-X1; mat was-sat-on-X1.'

Btw, I thought this up just before I fell asleep.
Orite. IIRC you already posted this idea somewhere?

Anyway, I generally dislike violating the basic structure of human languages because I'd lose all my reference points if I did. My conlanging is only so much an artistic endeavor as painting backdrops for a play is; going all Picasso on it tends to defeat the purpose (unless, of course, the play being staged were of abstractionist nature itself).
陳第 wrote:蓋時有古今,地有南北;字有更革,音有轉移,亦勢所必至。
R.Rusanov wrote:seks istiyorum
sex want-PRS-1sg
Read all about my excellent conlangs
Basic Conlanging Advice

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I haven't put it anywhere else yet, but I intend to implement it in a con-lang for a civilisation in another galaxy. That is in itself justification enough for 'violating the basic structure of human languages'.

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gwoā fygwheki wobemā. neńe inutē xēdanaḍa.
[gʷo.a: fygʷʰeki wobema: neŋe inute: xe:danaɖa]
Started a new language. Hope it will keep ongoing.

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KathAveara wrote:I haven't put it anywhere else yet, but I intend to implement it in a con-lang for a civilisation in another galaxy. That is in itself justification enough for 'violating the basic structure of human languages'.
As said, if the backdrop fits the play...
陳第 wrote:蓋時有古今,地有南北;字有更革,音有轉移,亦勢所必至。
R.Rusanov wrote:seks istiyorum
sex want-PRS-1sg
Read all about my excellent conlangs
Basic Conlanging Advice

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Well, soon as I've actually made the language, I'll demonstrate it here...

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Mar nacamethi gyngimith?
Why act-2PL:A troll-PL-PRL?
Why do you all act as trolls?
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Tha cvastam émi cvastam santham amal phelsa. -- Friedrich Schiller
ESTAR-3SG:P human-OBJ only human-OBJ true-OBJ REL-LOC play-3SG:A

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Well, soon as I've actually made the language, I'll demonstrate it here...
Saa, vanaa etaaya aasramaa tai.
Awesome, we'll have to wait for it then.

Staira, tvaa' vaḍhai vanaan habhilas' aarṭhasma
In the meantime, I do hope you will stop annoying us for attention.
WeepingElf wrote:Mar nacamethi gyngimith?
Why act-2PL:A troll-PL-PRL?
Why do you all act as trolls?
Saav akãn na sulanas taidha vanaa sãng hablamaah.
She isn't showing anything, so we trolling her.
Talāṃ leya kalakena rāmah, saktalām peha leya bhūmena ca.
See a world in a grain of sand, and a heaven in a wild flower.
Omkāṃs tava sutvantayam pharo, 'naiṃ le' jeś ca.
Hold infinity in the palm of your hand, and eternity in an hour.

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Ilya?
She?

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Pa Kathryn, pa o koní làni, ko?
She's Kathryn, and that's a female name, isn't it?

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Clickaul yakanga saiya sana.
Click is right there.
Talāṃ leya kalakena rāmah, saktalām peha leya bhūmena ca.
See a world in a grain of sand, and a heaven in a wild flower.
Omkāṃs tava sutvantayam pharo, 'naiṃ le' jeś ca.
Hold infinity in the palm of your hand, and eternity in an hour.

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Et.
He is.

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Thry wrote:i'l son caiés soure té :P
;and asleep was fallen on you ;P
Dative experiencers with obligatory passivization to raise them into nominative …

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I have an example of the language, though it's a very simple example.

ɣɐðɐmr kʰɐ ɐɣðɐmə βɐkʷntɐ
see.act.1st.sing generic_phrasal_conjunction see.pass.3rd.sing Vaqntas.nom.sing
I see a Vaqntas.

The generic phrasal conjunction is roughly equivalent to the semi-colon, in that it joins phrases together. Other conjunctions can be used for certain effects, such as providing a chronological order, and phrases can be reordered for special emphasis. If these phrases were embedded inside a longer 'sentence', then the verbal prefix ɐŋ can be used to mark that the phrases refer to each other.

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Click wrote:Pa Kathryn, pa o koní làni, ko?
She's Kathryn, and that's a female name, isn't it?
oh, misera nais el nom Kathryn d'avant.
[ɔ mi.ˈzɛe̯ nɛʃ lə nom ˈkʰeɪ.θɹɪn də.ˈvant]
oh, I hadn't met the name Kathryn before.

(quí, y volg dire)
[kid i volˠ diː]
(here, I mean)
Dative experiencers with obligatory passivization to raise them into nominative …
La lenga n'era secura, n'obstant.
[lə leŋ nɛe̯ skuː nobs.ˈtant]
The conlang was safe, though.

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Thry wrote:Kathryn
[ˈkʰaθ.ɹɪn]
Like this, dear.

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Et.
Indeed

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Grácias, carein.
[gɾɛjs kə.ˈɾiɲ]
Thanks, my love.

Vais mais entendre las Vias Mysteriosas de syllabifiquer de teia L1. Ven-y quí i vais te mostrer com las lengas veras románicas fan la lavor!
[fɛʃ mɛʃ ɪn.ˈten ləs fis mis.ˈtɾjos ə si.lə.bi.fi.ˈke ə tə leŋ nə.ˈte ˈfen.i i fɛʃ tə mos.ˈtɾe kom ləs leŋgs fɛe̯s ro.ˈma.niks fan lə lə.ˈvɔo̯]
I will never understand the Mysterious Ways of syllabification of your L1. Come here and I'll show you how romance real tongues do the stuff!

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Thry wrote:Grácias, carein.
[gɾɛjs kə.ˈɾiɲ]
Thanks, my love.

Vais mais entendre las Vias Mysteriosas de syllabifiquer de teia L1. Ven-y quí i vais te mostrer com las lengas veras románicas fan la lavor!
[fɛʃ mɛʃ ɪn.ˈten ləs fis mis.ˈtɾjos ə si.lə.bi.fi.ˈke ə tə leŋ nə.ˈte ˈfen.i i fɛʃ tə mos.ˈtɾe kom ləs leŋgs fɛe̯s ro.ˈma.niks fan lə lə.ˈvɔo̯]
I will never understand the Mysterious Ways of syllabification of your L1. Come here and I'll show you how romance real tongues do the stuff!
Veniu! To lenga me fac placér. :3

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Ich fur dein wehltspaegen ender die otertreute gegratchen, Mijneera KathAveara! :D
KathAveara! Thank you for your nice comment on the [simple noun system] thread! :D

Tatt, Ich fur dein valtlahn muhtwehl hatte, Click.
Also, I really like your conlang, Click.

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