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Ngu-Qam [ŋu qam):
/a e i o u/
/a: e: i: o: u:/
Phonemic high tone vs. low tone

/m n ŋ ŋʷ/
/p p’ b t t’ d k k’ g kʷ k’ʷ gʷ q q’/
/f v s z x ɣ xʷ ɣʷ~w/
/ts ts’ kx/
/l r j/
I don't know if this is plausible or not, changes might be necessary, but I want labio-velar distinction and ejectives.
Though, I want the language to be remotely African.
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Will you romanize that with diacritics or digraphs?
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Birdlang wrote:Will you romanize that with diacritics or digraphs?
Both.
ʾAšol ḵavad pulqam ʾifbižen lav ʾifšimeḻ lit maseḡrad lav lit n͛ubad. ʾUpulasim ṗal sa-panžun lav sa-ḥadṇ lav ṗal šarmaḵeš lit ʾaẏṭ waẏyadanun wižqanam.
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So this is your new project after Vrkhazhian.
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Birdlang wrote:So this is your new project after Vrkhazhian.
Yes, this is the language of the Empire that the Vrkhazhian Empire is in a war with.

I have a romanization now:
Ngu-Cam [ŋu qam):
/a e i o u/<a e i o u>
/a: e: i: o: u:/<ā ē ī ō ū>
Phonemic pitch accent

/m n ŋ ŋʷ/<m n ng nw>
/p p’ b t t’ d k k’ g kʷ k’ʷ gʷ q q’ ʔ/<p ṗ b t ṭ d k ḳ g kw ḳw gw c ċ q>
/f v s z x ɣ xʷ~ʍ ɣʷ~w/<f v s z x j xw w>
/ts ts’ kx/<ts ṭṣ kx>
/l r j/<l r y>
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ʾAšol ḵavad pulqam ʾifbižen lav ʾifšimeḻ lit maseḡrad lav lit n͛ubad. ʾUpulasim ṗal sa-panžun lav sa-ḥadṇ lav ṗal šarmaḵeš lit ʾaẏṭ waẏyadanun wižqanam.
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Is there a reason why you use <c> for /q/?

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Dē Graut Bʉr wrote:Is there a reason why you use <c> for /q/?
Because I had no way to represent uvular ejective stop to be consistent with the other ejective stops. I thought "well C represents a k-sound, and /q/ is k-like too".
This is a romanization, so it is not like it matters.
ʾAšol ḵavad pulqam ʾifbižen lav ʾifšimeḻ lit maseḡrad lav lit n͛ubad. ʾUpulasim ṗal sa-panžun lav sa-ḥadṇ lav ṗal šarmaḵeš lit ʾaẏṭ waẏyadanun wižqanam.
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But if you don't use <q> for anything else, why not use it for /q/?
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WeepingElf wrote:But if you don't use <q> for anything else, why not use it for /q/?
Then what do I represent for /q’/ when the other ejectives have dots? The letter Q has no precomposed characters that have diacritics on them, and no bleeding way am I composing one.
I have to be consistent.

Actually, I might add a glottal stop to the inventory, so there, a use for <q>
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ʾAšol ḵavad pulqam ʾifbižen lav ʾifšimeḻ lit maseḡrad lav lit n͛ubad. ʾUpulasim ṗal sa-panžun lav sa-ḥadṇ lav ṗal šarmaḵeš lit ʾaẏṭ waẏyadanun wižqanam.
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One or two question marks are sufficient to get your meaning across. Also, it's not that weird to have some irregularities in your romanization. It happens all the time in the real world.

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Theta wrote:One or two question marks are sufficient to get your meaning across. Also, it's not that weird to have some irregularities in your romanization. It happens all the time in the real world.
It's fine, <c> is fine, and <q> for glottal stop.
I am also pondering the addition of <ḳg> [k͡x’]
ʾAšol ḵavad pulqam ʾifbižen lav ʾifšimeḻ lit maseḡrad lav lit n͛ubad. ʾUpulasim ṗal sa-panžun lav sa-ḥadṇ lav ṗal šarmaḵeš lit ʾaẏṭ waẏyadanun wižqanam.
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אקֿמך ארש-הגִנו wrote:
Birdlang wrote:So this is your new project after Vrkhazhian.
Yes, this is the language of the Empire that the Vrkhazhian Empire is in a war with.

I have a romanization now:
Ngu-Cam [ŋu qam):
/a e i o u/<a e i o u>
/a: e: i: o: u:/<ā ē ī ō ū>
Phonemic pitch accent

/m n ŋ ŋʷ/<m n ng nw>
/p p’ b t t’ d k k’ g kʷ k’ʷ gʷ q q’ ʔ/<p ṗ b t ṭ d k ḳ g kw ḳw gw c ċ q>
/f v s z x ɣ xʷ~ʍ ɣʷ~w/<f v s z x j xw w>
/ts ts’ kx/<ts ṭṣ kx>
/l r j/<l r y>
So no engma?
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Birdlang wrote:
אקֿמך ארש-הגִנו wrote:
Birdlang wrote:So this is your new project after Vrkhazhian.
Yes, this is the language of the Empire that the Vrkhazhian Empire is in a war with.

I have a romanization now:
Ngu-Cam [ŋu qam):
/a e i o u/<a e i o u>
/a: e: i: o: u:/<ā ē ī ō ū>
Phonemic pitch accent

/m n ŋ ŋʷ/<m n ng nw>
/p p’ b t t’ d k k’ g kʷ k’ʷ gʷ q q’ ʔ/<p ṗ b t ṭ d k ḳ g kw ḳw gw c ċ q>
/f v s z x ɣ xʷ~ʍ ɣʷ~w/<f v s z x j xw w>
/ts ts’ k͡x k͡x’/<tz ṭz kg ḳg>
/l r j/<l r y>
So no engma?
I do not like the look of engma.
I like dots, acutes and weird digraphs like <kg>
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C’ąąnsong Tshou’iłśiso
/t͡ʃ'ɑ̃ːnsɔŋ t͡sʰɔuʔiɬʃisɔ/

/m m̥ p pʰ p' (b~β) p͡f p͡fʰ p͡f'/
/n n̥ t tʰ t' (d~z) s t͡s t͡sʰ t͡s' (d͡z) l ɬ/
/ʃ t͡ʃ t͡ʃʰ t͡ʃ' (d͡ʒ)/
/j/
/ŋ ŋ̊ k kʰ k' (g~ɣ) x k͡x k͡xʰ k͡x' w/
/ɴ ɴ̊ q qʰ q' (ɢ~ʁ) χ q͡χ q͡χʰ q͡χ'/
/ʔ h/

i iː ɪ̃ ĩː-------------u uː ũ ũː
ɛ ɛː ɛ̃ ɛ̃ː-----------ɔ ɔː ɔ̃ ɔ̃ː
---------ɐ aː ɑ̃ ɑ̃ː
m̩ n̩

Allophony: Many plain stops and one affricate, /p/ /t/ /t͡ʃ/ /k/ /q/, tend to become voiced and/or fricatives, /b~β/ /d~z/ /d͡ʒ/ /g~ɣ/ /ɢ~ʁ/, when in between vowels. This is not a consistent nor important change, so in orthography the voiced consonants are not written any differently than the voiceless.

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New Upsaclottian Spelling System
Aa, Bb, Cc, Dd, Ee, Ff, Gg, Hh, Ii, Jj, Kk, Ll, Mm, Nn, Oo, Pp, Qq, Rr, Ss, Tt, Uu, Ww, Xx, Yy, Zz, Ɑɑ, Åå, Ḁḁ, Ää, Ææ, Ãã, Ṿ, V̄, Vᴻᵑ, C̣, Cᵂʷ, VĦħ, Ƃƃ, Ƀƀ, Ḇḇ, Cᴶʲ, Čč, Ćć, Ꞓꞓ/c with bar, Ƈƈ, Ðð, Ḏḏ, Ďď, Ƌđ, Ẽẽ, Êê, Əə, E̱e̱, Ɛɛ, E̊e̊, E̥e̥, Ǥǥ, Cǥ, Ȝȝ, Ɠɠ, Ƕƕ, Ɦɦ, Ïï, Łł, Ɫɫ, Ľľ, Ⱡⱡ, Ḻḻ, Ɱɱ, Ŋŋ, Ɲɲ, N̈n̈, N̂n̂, N̰n̰, Ńń, Ṉṉ, Øø, Õõ, Ǒǒ, Œœ, Ɔɔ, o̱/ Öö, V̰, C̓, Ƿƿ, Ƥƥ, Ꝗꝗ/q with stroke, Ṟṟ, Řř, R̂r̂, R̃r̃, S̱s̱, Śś, Šš, Ŝŝ, Ṯṯ, Üü, Ůů, Ũũ, Ŭŭ, Ʌʌ, Ʋʋ, V̌v̌, Ṽṽ, W̊ẘ, Ⱳⱳ, Ƴƴ, Ÿÿ, Ŷŷ, Y̆y̆, Žž, Źź, Ʒʒ, Ƶƶ, Ẑẑ, Ɂɂ
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a, b, ɰ, d, e, ɸ, ɡ, ɦ, i, ɧ, k, l, m, n, o, p, q, r, s, t, u, v, x, ɪɯ̯, z, ɑ, ɒ, ɶ, ɞ, əɨ̯, ɜ, pharyngealized vowel, long vowel, nasal vowel, pharyngealized consonant, labialized consonant, half-long vowel, ɠ͡ɓ, ɓ, ɓ̥ˡ, palatized consonant, ʧ, ʨ, ʧː, ƈ, ð, ɖ, ɟ͡ʝ, ɗ, ɚ, ɘ, ə, ɝ, ɛ, əɨ̯, ɛɝ̯, ɣ, velarized consonant, ɢ, ɠ, ᴙ, ħ, ɨ, ɬ, ɫ, ʎ, ɮ, ɭ, ɱ, ŋ, ɲ, ɴ, ɲʶ, ṉ, ȵ, ɳ, ʉɨ̯, ɶʏ̯, ɤ, œ, ɔ, ɵ, creaky vowel, ejected consonant, ʜ, ƥ, qː, ɽ, ɾ, ʁ, r̝, ʂ, ɕ, ʃ, ʆ, ʈ, ʉ, ɯ, ʌ, w, əɤ̯, ʊ, vʶ, ʋ, ʍ, ⱱ, ʄ, ɥ, ɟ, j, ʒ, ʑ, ʤ, ʣ, ʓ, ʔ
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Midtow Creole:

m n~ŋ
b p pʰ ð~d t tʰ g k kʰ
s z ʃ~ɕ ʒ~ʑ χ~ʀ
ts dz tʃ~tɕ dʒ~dʑ

ʋ~v ɹ l j
r
ᶢʘ ʘ ʘʰ ᶢʇ ʇ ʇʰ ᶢʗ~ǂ ʗ~ǂ ʗ~ǂʰ

ð is d when syllable-initial and stressed.
χ is preferred over ʀ in clusters.
ʋ is v around other approximants.
n preferred around coronals, ŋ dorsals.

A bit of harmony: a word can only have post-alveolar or alveolo-palatal fricatives/affricates.


i y u o e a œ | ɪ ʊ ə ɛ æ | ɶ
The left vowels are only allowed in stressed syllables; the middle can be stressed or unstressed; ɶ is the unstressed version of œ and only appears stressed in some slang.

Syllable structure is tentatively (C(C))V(V)(C(C)) and some syllabic consonants.

+ Short and long vowels and consonants.
+ Nasalization of vowels.
+ Pre-nasalization of most voiced consonants.
+ Middle, High, Low, Rising word tones.
+ Psuedo-lexical stress. It's basically random.

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A language that offloads +/-front, but not +/-round, onto consonants.

/pʲ p tʲ t tɕ tʂ kʲ k/
/fʲ f sʲ s ʂ ɕ hʲ h/
/mʲ m nʲ n ŋʲ ŋ/
/a o ɨ u/

/pʲa pʲo pʲɨ pʲu pa po pɨ pu/ [pe pø pi py pa po pə pu]
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Second Slavic, you mean?
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Smilish:

/m n ŋ/ <m n ng>
/p b d d͡ɮ g/ <p b d dl g>
/s z ʃ ʒ ɣ h/ <s z sh zh x h>
/w l j/ <w l y>
/ʘ t~! ǁ~k/ <pp t k>
/ʘ̃ !̃̃ ǁ̃/ <pm tn kn>

/a ə i~eɪ~ɘ u/ <a e i u>
/aɪ aʊ jɛ oʊ/ <ai au ye o>
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Pseudo-Chadic:

/pː tː tsː kː kʷː ʔː ʔʷː/
/p t ts k kʷ ʔ ʔʷ/
/pʰ tʰ tsʰ kʰ kʷʰ/
/b d dz g gʷ/
/ⁿpʰ ⁿtʰ ⁿtsʰ ⁿkʰ ⁿkʷʰ/
/ⁿb ⁿd ⁿdz ⁿg ⁿgʷ/
/s ɬ x xʷ h/
/f v z ɣ ɣʷ ʕ/
/m n ɲ ŋ ŋʷ/
/l r j ɥ w/
/a a:/
/J W/

Only nasals, unvoiced consonants, /s ɬ x xʷ/, and /l r/ can occur word-finally.

Processes:
* Schwa epenthesis to break up clusters.
* jə ɥə wə > ji ɥy wu
* əj əɥ əw > ij yɥ uw
* əjə əɥə əwə > i: y: u:
* Cʷ rounds surrounding vowels
* -J -W prosodies front and round all vowels in a word. -J palatalizes alveolars, -W rounds velars/glottals. words can't take both -J and -W [nb: some Chadic languages allow this]
* word-initial /a/ isn't affected by the prosodies
* hʷ > f

Example words: (ts dz = c ȥ)
/ncⁿgʷaȥs/ [nətsuŋgodzəs]
/ncⁿgʷaȥsJ/ [nitʃyŋgødʒiʃ]
/hɥⁿtʰaxʷ/ [hy:nthoxʷ]
/hjⁿtʰaxW/ [fy:nthoxʷ]
/hɥⁿtʰaxʷJ/ [hy:nthøxʷ]
/akmⁿȥarJ/ [akimindʒer]
/jkʷmⁿȥaɬ/ [jykuməndzaɬ]
/jpa:ɣⁿbl/ [jypa:ɣəmbəl]
/aca:pwrJ/ [atʃe:py:r]
/tʔːsa/ [təʔ:əsa]
/akʷːcːɬja/ [ok:ut:səɬija]
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אקֿמך ארש-הגִנו wrote:Ngu-Qam [ŋu qam):
/a e i o u/
/a: e: i: o: u:/
Phonemic high tone vs. low tone

/m n ŋ ŋʷ/
/p p’ b t t’ d k k’ g kʷ k’ʷ gʷ q q’/
/f v s z x ɣ xʷ ɣʷ~w/
/ts ts’ kx/
/l r j/
I don't know if this is plausible or not, changes might be necessary, but I want labio-velar distinction and ejectives.
Though, I want the language to be remotely African.
This is definitely plausible. There are tons of languages in California and the PNW with a labio-velar distinction and ejectives.

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אקֿמך ארש-הגִנו wrote:Ngu-Qam [ŋu qam):
/a e i o u/
/a: e: i: o: u:/
Phonemic high tone vs. low tone

/m n ŋ ŋʷ/
/p p’ b t t’ d k k’ g kʷ k’ʷ gʷ q q’/
/f v s z x ɣ xʷ ɣʷ~w/
/ts ts’ kx/
/l r j/
I don't know if this is plausible or not, changes might be necessary, but I want labio-velar distinction and ejectives.
Though, I want the language to be remotely African.
Which part of Africa?
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I've got a weird phonology I want feedback on:

/m n ŋ ŋˁ/
/p pʰ t tʰ k kʰ gˁ (ʔ)/
/s ʃ x xˁ/
/r ɾ/
/l/

/ɑ ɑː i iː u uː/

Syllable structure is CV(C)

Aspirated consonants deaspirate word-finally
Unaspirated plosives voice between vowels
/ŋˁ gˁ xˁ/ become [ʕ ʕ ħ] word-finally and after [ɑ(ː)]
/ʔ/ is marginal and occurs only at syllable onset and rarely in positions other than word-initial

My inspiration is sort of Sumerian turned weird.
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Zaarin wrote:I've got a weird phonology I want feedback on:

/m n ŋ ŋˁ/
/p pʰ t tʰ k kʰ gˁ (ʔ)/
/s ʃ x xˁ/
/r ɾ/
/l/

/ɑ ɑː i iː u uː/

Syllable structure is CV(C)

Aspirated consonants deaspirate word-finally
Unaspirated plosives voice between vowels
/ŋˁ gˁ xˁ/ become [ʕ ʕ ħ] word-finally and after [ɑ(ː)]
/ʔ/ is marginal and occurs only at syllable onset and rarely in positions other than word-initial

My inspiration is sort of Sumerian turned weird.
I dont even know how to pronounce a pharyngealized velar without turning them into a uvular sound; even if your conpeople do then it will probably change into that diachronically very very soon. Just change the into uvular and then have an allophonic rule that they become pharyngeals in certan conditions. This is all much more logical and changes from uvular to pharyngeal are also attested.

Also having only a voiced uvular stop and not /q/ is probably not attested. Voicing is 'difficult' (marked), and often you have a voiceless counterpart but not a voiced one rather than vice versa.

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Re: Post your conlang's phonology

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Nortaneous wrote:
אקֿמך ארש-הגִנו wrote:Ngu-Qam [ŋu qam):
/a e i o u/
/a: e: i: o: u:/
Phonemic high tone vs. low tone

/m n ŋ ŋʷ/
/p p’ b t t’ d k k’ g kʷ k’ʷ gʷ q q’/
/f v s z x ɣ xʷ ɣʷ~w/
/ts ts’ kx/
/l r j/
I don't know if this is plausible or not, changes might be necessary, but I want labio-velar distinction and ejectives.
Though, I want the language to be remotely African.
Which part of Africa?
It very remotely resembles Cushitic phonologies, though they often don't have uvulars or ejective p or rounded consonants, why in the hell not hey, it s cross-linguistically definitely a fine phonology.

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