Sound Change Game

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Unnamed Conlang šana [cçəˈna] → Proto-Alla kinà [kiˈnæ] → Alla čəna [tʃəˈnæ]
Unnamed Conlang ne [ne] → Proto-Alla na [næ] → Alla na [næ]
Unnamed Conlang babone [bəbɵˈne] → Proto-Alla babånà [βæβɒˈnæ] → Alla vana [ˈʋænæ]
Unnamed Conlang ȝabeȝe [ɣəbɛˈʝe] → Proto-Alla gabagì [ɣæβæˈɣi] → Alla xaši [ˈχɑʒi]
Dibotahamdn duthma jallni agaynni ra hgitn lakrhmi.
Amuhawr jalla vowa vta hlakrhi hdm duthmi xaja.
Irdro. Irdro. Irdro. Irdro. Irdro. Irdro. Irdro.

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Alla čəna [tʃəˈnæ] → Tnaqite šenāʾ [ʃəˈn̪ɑːʔ]
Alla na [næ] → Tnaqite naʾ [ˈn̪aʔ]
Alla vana [ˈʋænæ] → Tnaqite yannaʾ [ˈjan̪ːɐʔ]
Alla xaši [ˈχɑʒi] → Tnaqite ḫaši [ˈχɑʃi]
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Tnaqite šenāʾ [ʃəˈn̪ɑːʔ] → No. 1a /ʃɜˈnɑ/ → No. 4a cano /ɕəˈnɒ/
Tnaqite naʾ [ˈn̪aʔ] → No. 1a /nɑ/ → No. 4a no /nɒ/
Tnaqite yannaʾ [ˈjan̪ːɐʔ] → No. 1a /ˈçɑ.nɑ/ → No. 4a hono /ˈɦɔɑ̯.nɒ/
Tnaqite ḫaši [ˈχɑʃi] → No. 1a /ˈxɑ.ʃi/ → No. 4a hocai /ˈɦɔɑ̯.ɕe̞/
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No. 4a cano /ɕəˈnɒ/→Deinau sanah [sɑˈɾ̃ɑ͡ʊ]
No. 4a no /nɒ/→Deinau nah [nɑ͡ʊ]
No. 4a hono /ˈɦɔɑ̯.nɒ/→Deinau ahna [ˈɑ͡uɾ̃ɑ]
No. 4a hocai /ˈɦɔɑ̯.ɕe̞/→Deinau ahsë [ˈɑ͡ʊzɤ]
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Deinau sanah [sɑˈɾ̃ɑ͡ʊ] → Proto-Alla sånăw [sɒˈnɒw] → Alla sənåv [səˈnɒʋ] → Xanínə sənó [sɨˈnoː]
Deinau nah [nɑ͡ʊ] → Proto-Alla nåw [nɒw] → Alla nåv [nɒʋ] → Xanínə [noː]
Deinau ahna [ˈɑ͡uɾ̃ɑ] → Proto-Alla ăwnå [ˈɒwnɒ] → Alla åvnə [ˈɒʋnə] → Xanínə ónə [ˈoːnɨ]
Deinau ahsë [ˈɑ͡ʊzɤ] → Proto-Alla ăwså [ˈɒwsɒ] → Alla åvsə [ˈɒʋzə] → Xanínə ózə [ˈoːzɨ]
Dibotahamdn duthma jallni agaynni ra hgitn lakrhmi.
Amuhawr jalla vowa vta hlakrhi hdm duthmi xaja.
Irdro. Irdro. Irdro. Irdro. Irdro. Irdro. Irdro.

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Xanínə sənó [sɨˈnoː] → Old Azen synē → Azen sīnē [si:ˈne:]
Xanínə [noː] → Old Azen → Azen no [nɒ]
Xanínə ónə [ˈoːnɨ] → Old Azen ōnu → Azen wōnu [ˈwɒ:nu]
Xanínə ózə [ˈoːzɨ] → Old Azen ōsu → Azen wozu [ˈwɒzu]

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Maybe some german fun?:

[ˌʀɪntflaɪ̯ʃʔetikɛˌtiːʀʊŋsʔyːbɐˌvaχʊŋsˌʔaʊ̯fɡaːbn̩ʔyːbɐˈtʀaːɡʊŋsɡəˌzɛʦ]
[ˈɡʀʊntʃtʏ̯ksfɛɐ̯ˌkeːɐ̯sɡəˌneːmɪɡʊŋsˌʦuːʃtɛndɪçkaɪ̯ʦʔyːbɐˌtʀaːɡʊŋsfɛɐ̯ˌʔɔʁdnʊŋ]
Queso: ¿qué es eso? -- Eso es queso

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Umm you are supposed to provide discrete words with orthography, and no, I can't go backwards from phonetic German to German orthography.
Dibotahamdn duthma jallni agaynni ra hgitn lakrhmi.
Amuhawr jalla vowa vta hlakrhi hdm duthmi xaja.
Irdro. Irdro. Irdro. Irdro. Irdro. Irdro. Irdro.

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Why do you need ortography for this game?
Queso: ¿qué es eso? -- Eso es queso

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Well I suppose you don't need orthography. But my other problem with that is that it is too damned long.
Dibotahamdn duthma jallni agaynni ra hgitn lakrhmi.
Amuhawr jalla vowa vta hlakrhi hdm duthmi xaja.
Irdro. Irdro. Irdro. Irdro. Irdro. Irdro. Irdro.

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I suggested those words cause the main problem is that words become shorter with every derivation too fast. You may pick other words to start if you want to.
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German [ˌʀɪntflaɪ̯ʃʔetikɛˌtiːʀʊŋsʔyːbɐˌvaχʊŋsˌʔaʊ̯fɡaːbn̩ʔyːbɐˈtʀaːɡʊŋsɡəˌzɛʦ] → Proto-Alla ginlayšatikatīgunsībabaxunsawgābnībatgágungasat → Alla šiləyšətəktūvusīxusəvxavnītxāvuxsət → Xanínə šeləyšədəttūvzīġzəvġavnītxévossət [ʃelɨjʃɨdɨtːuːʋziːʁzɨʋʁɐʋniːtˈχeːʋosːɨt]
German [ˈɡʀʊntʃtʏ̯ksfɛɐ̯ˌkeːɐ̯sɡəˌneːmɪɡʊŋsˌʦuːʃtɛndɪçkaɪ̯ʦʔyːbɐˌtʀaːɡʊŋsfɛɐ̯ˌʔɔʁdnʊŋ] → Proto-Alla gùntikpākāsganāmiguncūštandiškaycībatgāgunpāʔågnun → Alla xutəkpākāsxənāmacūštāškəycītxâvupāʔəxnu → Xanínə xodəppēgēxxanēmjūštēškəyjītxōvpéxxo [χodɨpːeːgeːχːɐneːmdzuːʃteːʃkɨjdziːtχoːʋˈpeːχːo]
Dibotahamdn duthma jallni agaynni ra hgitn lakrhmi.
Amuhawr jalla vowa vta hlakrhi hdm duthmi xaja.
Irdro. Irdro. Irdro. Irdro. Irdro. Irdro. Irdro.

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Both of those words, Rindfleischetikettierungsüberwachungsaufgabenübertragungsgesetz and Grundstücksverkehrsgenehmigungszuständigkeitsübertragungsverordnung, are well-known enough that you can type in the first few syllables and Google will autocomplete them -- or, failing that, you can search for 'longest German words' or something.

Anyway:

[mɑ̌ʊ tsɤ̌tʊ́ŋ] > Proto-Kharidze Máwu Tsätúng :> Rengni Máu Sùtang [mɔ́ sǔtáŋ]
[ho̞˧˩ t͡ɕi˧˥ mɪŋ˧] :> Proto-Kharidze Fo Chǐmäng :> Rengni Fó Sìumang [fó sy̌máŋ]
[ˈdɑnəld tʃrʌmp] :> Proto-Kharidze Dánäldu Chrãmpä :> Rengni Láunus Shúmk [lɔ́nùs ʂúmʔ]
[ɔˈgʌstəs ɪnˈvɪktəs] :> Proto-Kharidze Ogãstäs Änwíktäs :> Rengni Òukftuk Ùinktuk [ɔ̌u̯ʔftúʔ y̌nʔtúʔ]

Or, if you insist:

Xanínə šeləyšədəttūvzīġzəvġavnītxévossət [ʃelɨjʃɨdɨtːuːʋziːʁzɨʋʁɐʋniːtˈχeːʋosːɨt] :> Proto-Kharidze sheläshädätuzighzäwghawnidhghewosät :> Rengni sèusultudyauzwangaunilgheusuk [sø̂sùɬtùdjɔ̀zwɔ̀ŋɔ̀nǐlɣǿsúʔ]
Xanínə xodəppēgēxxanēmjūštēškəyjītxōvpéxxo [χodɨpːeːgeːχːɐneːmdzuːʃteːʃkɨjdziːtχoːʋˈpeːχːo] > Proto-Kharidze xodäpegexanemdzushteshkäydzitxowpexo :> Rengni òlpekganenzusteskiustoupe [òɬpēʔgânèndzùstèsky̌stɔ́u̯pè]
Siöö jandeng raiglin zåbei tandiüłåd;
nää džunnfin kukuch vklaivei sivei tåd.
Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei.

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Rengni Máu Sùtang [mɔ́ sǔtáŋ] :> Proto-Kangthang [mɔ˥ su˩˥taŋ˥] :> Tnu' Awi wep suexdaex [wə˥ sʊ˩˥tɐ˩˥]
Rengni Fó Sìumang [fó sy̌máŋ] :> Proto-Kangthang [fɔ˥wu˥ ɕu˩˥maŋ˥] :> Tnu' Awi efpwup yuexwaex [əf˥wu˥ jʊ˩˥wɐ˩˥]
Rengni Láunus Shúmk [lɔ́nùs ʂúmʔ] :> Proto-Kangthang [lɔ˥nu˩su˧ ʂum˩˥.ə˥] :> Tnu' Awi lepduetsu yux·ep [lə˥tʊ˩su jʊ˩˥ʔə˥]
Rengni Òukftuk Ùinktuk [ɔ̌u̯ʔftúʔ y̌nʔtúʔ] :> Proto-Kangthang [wɔ˩˥.ə˥fə˧tu˥.ə jun˩˥.ə˧tu˥.ə˧] :> Tnu' Awi wex·ep·efdup·e yuex·edup·e [wə˩˥ʔə˥əftu˥ʔə jʊ˩˥ʔətu˥ʔə]

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Tnu' Awi wep suexdaex [wə˥ sʊ˩˥tɐ˩˥] :> Vian We Sútá [və̄ sútá]
Tnu' Awi efpwup yuexwaex [əf˥wu˥ jʊ˩˥wɐ˩˥] :> Vian Eifùrwu Yúwáo [ēfv̩̀vū júwɒ́]
Tnu' Awi lepduetsu yux·ep [lə˥tʊ˩su jʊ˩˥ʔə˥] :> Vian Letùsû Yúwe [lə̄tùsû júvə̄]
Tnu' Awi wex·ep·efdup·e yuex·edup·e [wə˩˥ʔə˥əftu˥ʔə jʊ˩˥ʔətu˥ʔə] :> Vian Wékefûrtúwê Yúwêtuwè [və́kə̄fv̩̂túvə̄ júvə̂tūvə̀]

(high varies with high rising, hence the borrowing patterns)
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Vian We Sútá [və̄ sútá] → Proto-Alla Ba Sútā [βæ ˈsuːtæː] → Alla Va Sūta [ʋæ ˈsuːdæ] → Xanínə Va Súda [ʋɐ ˈsuːdɐ]
Vian Eifùrwu Yúwáo [ēfv̩̀vū júwɒ́] → Proto-Alla ʔàpubu Yúwâ [ˈʔæpuβu ˈjuːwɒː] → Alla ʔapa Yūvå [ˈʔæbæ ˈjuːvɒ] → Xanínə Àba Yúva [ˈɐbɐ ˈjuːʋɐ]
Vian Letùsû Yúwe [lə̄tùsû júvə̄] → Proto-Alla Latùsū Yúba [læˈtusuː ˈjuːβæ] → Alla Lətusu Yū [ləˈtuzu juː] → Xanínə Lətòzo Yū [lɨˈtʰozo juː]
Vian Wékefûrtúwê Yúwêtuwè [və́kə̄fv̩̂túvə̄ júvə̂tūvə̀] → Proto-Alla Bākapúbtūba Yūbátuba [βæːkæˈpuːβtuːβæ juːˈβæːtuβæ] → Alla Vakpūvtū Yuvāta [ʋækˈpuːʋduː juˈʋæːdæ] → Xanínə Vappúvdū Yovéda [ʋɐpˈpʰuːʋduː joˈʋeːdɐ]
Dibotahamdn duthma jallni agaynni ra hgitn lakrhmi.
Amuhawr jalla vowa vta hlakrhi hdm duthmi xaja.
Irdro. Irdro. Irdro. Irdro. Irdro. Irdro. Irdro.

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Xanínə Va Súda [ʋɐ ˈsuːdɐ] → Yewedu Va Ṣūḍa [va ʂuːˈɖa]
Xanínə Àba Yúva [ˈɐbɐ ˈjuːʋɐ] → Yewedu Eba Yūva [ʔəˈba juːˈva]
Xanínə Lətòzo Yū [lɨˈtʰozo juː] → Yewedu Leṭheẓu Yū [l̪əʈʰə'ʐu juː]
Xanínə Vappúvdū Yovéda [ʋɐpˈpʰuːʋduː joˈʋeːdɐ] → Yewedu Vephūḍū Yevēḍa [vəpʰuː'ɖuː jəveː'ɖa]

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Yewedu Va Ṣūḍa [va ʂuːˈɖa] :> Proto-Kangthang [β̞a˩ ʂu˥d͡ʐa˩˥] :> Tnuʼ Awi Waeq Yupnyaex [wɐ˩ ju˥ɲɐ˩˥]
Yewedu Eba Yūva [ʔəˈba juːˈva] :> Proto-Kangthang [ə˩ba˩˥ ju˥β̞a˩˥] :> Tnuʼ Awi Eqmaex Yupwaex [ə˩mɐ˩˥ ju˥wɐ˩˥]
Yewedu Leṭheẓu Yū [l̪əʈʰə'ʐu juː] :> Proto-Kangthang [lə˩t͡ʂʰə˩ʐu˩˥ ju˥˩] :> Tnuʼ Awi Leqtyeqyux Yup [lə˩cʰə˩jʊ˩˥ ju˥]
Yewedu Vephūḍū Yevēḍa [vəpʰuː'ɖuː jəveː'ɖa] :> Proto-Kangthang [β̞ə˩pʰu˥d͡ʐu˥˩ jə˩β̞ɛ˥d͡za˩˥] :> Tnuʼ Awi Weqpupnyuf Yeq·epnsaex [wə˩pʰu˥ɲu˥˩ jə˩ə˥z̃ɐ˩˥]

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Tnuʼ Awi Waeq Yupnyaex [wɐ˩ ju˥ɲɐ˩˥] :> Western Kett Wá Yúeniǎ [vá jýɲàá]
Tnuʼ Awi Eqmaex Yupwaex [ə˩mɐ˩˥ ju˥wɐ˩˥] :> Western Kett Òemǎ Yúevǎ [ø̀màá jývàá]
Tnuʼ Awi Leqtyeqyux Yup [lə˩cʰə˩jʊ˩˥ ju˥] :> Western Kett Lòeciòeyǔ Yú [lø̀tɕø̀jùú jú]
Tnuʼ Awi Weqpupnyuf Yeq·epnsaex [wə˩pʰu˥ɲu˥˩ jə˩ə˥z̃ɐ˩˥] :> Western Kett Vòpúniu Yòengsǎ [vòpúɲȳȳ jø̀ŋsàá]
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Western Kett Wá Yúeniǎ [vá jýɲàá] → Proto-Alla Ba Yìnyā [βæ ˈjinjæː] → Alla Va Yiya [ʋæ ˈjijæ] → Xanínə Va Yèya [ʋɐ ˈjejɐ]
Western Kett Òemǎ Yúevǎ [ø̀màá jývàá] → Proto-Alla Ìmā Yìbā [ˈimæː ˈjiβæː] → Alla Ima Yiya [ˈimæ ˈjijæ] → Xanínə Èma Yèya [ˈemɐ ˈjejɐ]
Western Kett Lòeciòeyǔ Yú [lø̀tɕø̀jùú jú] → Proto-Alla Lìciyū Yu [ˈlitsijuː ju] → Alla Licyu Yu [ˈlidzju ju] → Xanínə Lèjyo Yo [ˈledzjo jo]
Western Kett Vòpúniu Yòengsǎ [vòpúɲȳȳ jø̀ŋsàá] → Proto-Alla Bùpunyī Yìnsā [ˈβupunjiː ˈjinsæː] → Alla Vupuyi Yisa [ˈʋubuji ˈjizæ] → Xańinə Vúbye Yèza [ˈʋuːbje ˈjezɐ]
Dibotahamdn duthma jallni agaynni ra hgitn lakrhmi.
Amuhawr jalla vowa vta hlakrhi hdm duthmi xaja.
Irdro. Irdro. Irdro. Irdro. Irdro. Irdro. Irdro.

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Miaumiau:
Va Yèya [ʋɐ ˈjejɐ] → [uaiáiia]
Èma Yèya [ˈemɐ ˈjejɐ] → [aimaiáiia]
Lèjyo Yo [ˈledzjo jo] → [máimiauiau]
Vúbye Yèza [ˈʋuːbje ˈjezɐ] → [uàuiaiiaiia]
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Umm... how are we supposed to apply normal human sound change to a cat-lang with, I assume, seven phonemes /m i a u iː aː uː/?
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Amuhawr jalla vowa vta hlakrhi hdm duthmi xaja.
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[uaiáiia] :> Proto-Kharidze bayázhe :> Deghuri vayaazhii [vəjaːʒiː] :> Amqoli balyazhu [baʎaʒu]
[aimaiáiia] :> Proto-Kharidze emayázha :> Deghuri iimayaazha [iːməjaːʒə] :> Amqoli himlyazha [himɲaʒa]
[máimiauiau] :> Proto-Kharidze mémyabyap :> Deghuri miinyavjak [miːɲəvdʒək] :> Amqoli melyebzhga [meɲebʒga]
[uàuiaiiaiia] :> Proto-Kharidze babyázhesh :> Deghuri vabjayiish [vəbədʒəjiːʃ] :> Amqoli habzhalyash [habʒaʎaʃ]

Like that.
Siöö jandeng raiglin zåbei tandiüłåd;
nää džunnfin kukuch vklaivei sivei tåd.
Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei.

Travis B.
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Re: Sound Change Game

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Amqoli balyazhu [baʎaʒu] → Proto-Alla bàlyašu [ˈβæljæʃu] → Alla valyəšə [ˈʋæljəʒə] → Xanínə vàlyəžə [ˈʋɐljɨʒɨ]
Amqoli himlyazha [himɲaʒa] → Proto-Alla hìmnaša [ˈhimnæʃæ] → Alla himnəšə [ˈhimnəʒə] → Xanínə xèmməžə [ˈχemːɨʒɨ]
Amqoli melyebzhga [meɲebʒga] → Proto-Alla mìnyibga [ˈminyiβɣæ] → Alla minyəvxə [ˈminjəʋʁə] → Xanínə mènyəvġə [ˈmenjɨʋʁɨ]
Amqoli habzhalyash [habʒaʎaʃ] → Proto-Alla hàbšalyaš [ˈhæβʃæljæʃ] → AllA havšəlyəš [ˈhæʋʒəljəʃ] → Xanínə xàvžəlyəš [ˈχɐʋʒɨljɨʃ]
Dibotahamdn duthma jallni agaynni ra hgitn lakrhmi.
Amuhawr jalla vowa vta hlakrhi hdm duthmi xaja.
Irdro. Irdro. Irdro. Irdro. Irdro. Irdro. Irdro.

CatDoom
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Re: Sound Change Game

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Xanínə vàlyəžə [ˈʋɐljɨʒɨ] → Proto-Coastal-Western waľizi [wɐ˥ʎi˥zi˥] → U Bol wáyisi [ˈwajizi˥]
Xanínə xèmməžə [ˈχemːɨʒɨ] → Proto-Coastal-Western xèʔmizi [χeʔ˩mi˥zi˥] → U Bol šeemísi [ʃeːˈmizi]
Xanínə mènyəvġə [ˈmenjɨʋʁɨ] → Proto-Coastal-Western mèňiwiği [me˩ɲi˥wi˥ɣi˥] → U Bol meŋíwiyi [meˈŋiwiji]
Xanínə xàvžəlyəš [ˈχɐʋʒɨljɨʃ] → Proto-Coastal-Western xawiziľisi [χɐ˥wi˥zi˥ʎi˥si˥] → U Bol šáwisiyii [ˈʃɐwizijiː]

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