Proto-southern: the minimalist conlang

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Re: Proto-southern: the minimalist conlang

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Salmoneus wrote:Stop bullying sirdanilot. If you're not interested in his conlang, just ignore his thread.
I am interested, but it was somewhat difficult to parse his presentation. I was trying to offer some advice to a would-be conlanger. I'll refrain if that is what is desired. Sorry.

Good luck, dan. I'll keep an eye on this thread to see if you decide to follow my advice.

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Re: Proto-southern: the minimalist conlang

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Negation. Negation is expressed with the particle ti which precedes the negated constituent. If the negation has sentence-wide scope, it occurs in the topic slot in sentence-initial position and the verb is topicalized. If the negation has scope over one constituent it occurs before that constituent, either in the topic or in the comment position. A negated constituent occurring in the topic slot has more emphasis than a negated constituent occurring in the comment slot; in general, the topic slot is preferred for negated constituents. The negative particle can occur in 'verbal' and 'non-verbal' sentences, though such a distinction is difficult to make in Proto-Southern.

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(1)	ti		pap	a	Irinoxo
NEG	hit	1s	Irinoxo
‘I didn’t hit Irinoxo.’
ti		a	pap	Irinoxo / pap	ti	a	Irinoxo
NEG	1s	hit	Irinoxo
‘I didn’t hit Irinoxo.’
ti		Irinoxo-tsi		a	pap
NEG	Irinoxo-OBJ	1s	hit
‘I didn’t hit Irinoxo.’
ti	a	tirx-u
NEG	1s	sleep-HS
‘I wasn’t sleeping (they say).’
Did I miss anything on negation? I see little reason to add more, unless I am missing something? I was thinking about negative questions, but then what are the semantics of those really; they are usually things like 'didn't you do that?' which is just a normal question which implies a certain response (here affirmative), I think it's better to handle those kinds of questions with other particles in this language.
And for those of us who cannot handle non-perfect BBCode:
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