Istion - an Age of Sail Conworld.

[Rodlox]

I'll probably have some free time tomorrow, after work and before my flight home.

have fun and keep safe (in the air and at work)

[cybrxkhan]

I'm just too lazy to put up stuff on the wiki.

Anyhow, since I have more time in the coming days, I'll put all the reports up on the wiki soon.

[Pogostick Man]

So apparently adding a new category to a page doesn't actually create that category…now there's "Category:Extinct languages", which has not actually been created, and "Category:Extinct Languages", which has. I have of course unintentionally made the situation worse.

Also, any objections to my officially claiming those islands above Ollock's as colonial holdings, as per our kicking around the territorial dispute between the two of us?

[Ollock]

Man, I have done zero on this project. I just don't find the time for it.

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I really want to work on this but I always end up so tired when I get home D:

[Turtlehead]

Updates people? I've been away for three days.

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Not really much to update on. As soon as I finish this work I've received from school for the weekend I think I'll add some more stuff to the wiki.

[Pogostick Man]

I'm just working on the languages. I have a few ideas rolling around for Ḥaqeph U but I need to coördinate with cybrxkhan, Torco, and Ollock for it.

[Ollock]

I'm just working on the languages. I have a few ideas rolling around for Ḥaqeph U but I need to coördinate with cybrxkhan, Torco, and Ollock for it.

Yes, unfortunately I have gone nowhere on my stuff. We need some place where just a few of us can pull together and do stuff.

[Pogostick Man]

I'm just working on the languages. I have a few ideas rolling around for Ḥaqeph U but I need to coördinate with cybrxkhan, Torco, and Ollock for it.

Yes, unfortunately I have gone nowhere on my stuff. We need some place where just a few of us can pull together and do stuff.

IRC?

[cybrxkhan]

Throw out your ideas, dude. We can always repost them if the others don't see it.

[Rodlox]

I'm just working on the languages. I have a few ideas rolling around for Ḥaqeph U but I need to coördinate with cybrxkhan, Torco, and Ollock for it.

Yes, unfortunately I have gone nowhere on my stuff. We need some place where just a few of us can pull together and do stuff.

Private Messages?

[Lyhoko Leaci]

Why not just post in this topic? That way anyone can see it and offer suggestions or possibly join in if they want and are able to.

[Pogostick Man]

OK. Here's the basic idea I've got so far as the prelude to Ḥaqeph U. If any of you have any objections to the use of your respective cultures in it, please let me know. Also, I'm going to move the start of the civil war a couple of years closer to zero.

So after the humiliation of the Ǧakærirr crown in the epic globe-spanning war, there's this episode where the prince goes down to Uǧġġultavb. There he spreads about some unpopular news or something and ends up running afoul of some of the locals, one of whom is someone the community respects and who is the father of four children, two sons (who are the older children) and two daughters. The elder son has left home and turned to a life of piracy headquartered with the Pirates' Guild in that bay in the east in an attempt to help support the family.

Anyway, the prince decides he needs to teach an object lesson about dissent and so up and murders the father. His son, whose name is !arǹ, tries to retaliate but is stopped and basically gets the choice of exile or death. He opts for exile and is carted off into the territory disputed between Ollock and me. There he wallows in loneliness, guilt, self-pity, and alcohol and at the end of a long chain of events and moves signs on with a Qicui merchant. He sails around the areas south of the Ǧakærirr islands for awhile and builds up a good rapport with the crew, but misses his homeland and feels much guilt at forsaking his homeland.

After several years of sailing back and forth across the tropics the merchant takes on a commission to go a bit more northerly than his usual travels and while they are up there an intense geomagnetic storm causes an auroral display impressive in its scope and distance from the pole comparable to how this sentence has gone on for so long without a single instance of the use of punctuation. The merchants have never seen this before, but !arǹ has and undergoes a catharsis, falling to his knees and begging his ancestors to forgive his dereliction to his duties, or to at least free his people if they refuse to forgive him. He asks the captain if he may return to the islands once more, all the while knowing it will be his death, and the captain, moved by his reaction to the atmospheric light show, agrees.

The ship makes for the entrance to the bay where Pirates' Guild hangs out and anchor some distance off in case the marauders make for them. !arǹ, the captain, and some other guy come out in a lifeboat go out to make landfall. The leader of the welcome wagon recognizes !arǹ after a couple of seconds and takes him to see his (!arǹ's) brother, who has become the chief executive (or grand pooh-bah or whatever) of the Guild. Together they decide to go back to Uǧġġultavb and visit their family, who hasn't seen !arǹ in over a decade.

!arǹ comes back to learn that the prince, who is set to assume the throne, has fancied !arǹ's sister as a bride. She doesn't want to be married off to this guy but, under threat of executing every last living relative and friend is a powerful motivator if she refused, relented. !arǹ and his brother fly into a rage. The Qicui captain, not understanding 'Asækikk, asks !arǹ to translate. When he hears, he declares that the king must die.

I'm not quite sure on more of the specifics yet, but I'm thinking of having the captain loan !arǹ his nice, shiny, ivory-and-gold-inlaid pistol, taking great care to load a single shot in it, and saying to !arǹ, "I expect you to bring this back, and return it empty".

And thus begins Ḥaqeph U.

What do you guys think?

[Lyhoko Leaci]

Sounds interesting.

[L'alphabētarium]

I have a few serious questions about this migration map

migrations1.PNG

Is it valid? If it is, it should be uploaded to the wiki asap.
Are we (for sure) using this migration theory and applying it in Istion history, cause I need to create my people's history and I need to be 100% certain to get any historical fact straight. Plus, if it's valid, in which year/era did these migrations take place. Even if the first one was in ca. -15000, when did all the other ones take place? The ones up north, or down south, or (what I care about the most) the ones in the west with the yellow arrows... Shouldn't there be a complete chronological diagram with all the migrations? We cannot really be free and choose for ourselves because one's migration history directly affects the other's. For example, Astraios' affects mine and mine affects Theta's (according to this map).
We need to sort this thing out before we can proceed. Could someone (possibly Torco) clear it out and have a diagram posted here and uploaded to the wiki?

[Torco]

This migraiton thing hasn't been discussed or voted upon or anything, but I get the feeling that it somehow made its way into the consensus.

How about it people, is that our primordial migrations map? I'm sure others can come up with a better one

You can upload it yourself, if it turns out that's the map we want to be using.

[Lyhoko Leaci]

It's fine with me.

[cybrxkhan]

Personally I'm not sure if that will work... SINCE we don't know what the water levels have been like. I think we were saying how the water levels were much lower before to allow the evolution of "normal" animals and the actual migration of peoples to various places. Should we take that into account too?

[L'alphabētarium]

I think we should go on with the migration map above.

Personally I'm not sure if that will work... SINCE we don't know what the water levels have been like. I think we were saying how the water levels were much lower before to allow the evolution of "normal" animals and the actual migration of peoples to various places. Should we take that into account too?

Water level rising kinda over-complicates things and I think we should just consider it a constant. It is, cause it is. Period.

Getting the migration map with a chronological diagram uploaded to the wiki should be our top priority. I, personally, cannot move on without it sorted out and finalised.

[Ollock]

I say existing map is good. If humans orginially had dark skin tone, as with our world -- it will fit with my desire to have black people with epicanthic folds.

[Torco]

why is that combination so popular with conlangers??

[of course, my main conworld has a couple ethnic groups it]

[Lyhoko Leaci]

I've had dark skinned ethnic groups and ethnic groups with epicanthic folds, but not combined...

[Torco]

Personally I'm not sure if that will work... SINCE we don't know what the water levels have been like. I think we were saying how the water levels were much lower before to allow the evolution of "normal" animals and the actual migration of peoples to various places. Should we take that into account too?

maybe, I'm not sure about the migratory pattern scheme I came up with, myself, seems a bit simplistic. you need like an altitude map with a lower sealevel or something? come up with an alternative! =)

[Drydic]

why is that combination so popular with conlangers??

[of course, my main conworld has a couple ethnic groups it]

The groups I've done the most work with in my conworld are actually east asian (specifically the pale skinned variety). The second most developed group I've so far described as 'swarthy', and haven't defined it further. I probably should.