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oka noyeno wayoka
NEG one-dog-NOM 1s-have-NEG-NPST
I don't have a dog either.

Ri ku paik dog sor? Hanu akai tifi moê...
You don't have love? You must be lonely...

Dog means "love" in Kunesian.

in Tormiott:

Miudanatt masta nige, solo lîana pasiopen lohor. Scoppa chadenestau padiunia sînir.
/ˈmʏʊðɪnɪt ˈmɛsta ˈniʕə ˈsolʊ ˈlijɪna ˈpɛɕʊwən ˈlohʊɹ | ˈskopːa ˈxɛðəˌnəstoʊ ˈpɛðʏʊɲa ˈsɪinɪɹ/
wish-1s be.with-COND.1s dog, but inhabit-1p apartment be.small-3s. IMPRS.NEG give<IPFV>-COND.3p space be.enough-3s.
I would like to have a dog, but we live in a small apartment. We wouldn't have enough space.

Oimatar gismochott nige matar miurhiar ouhromppoir.
/ˈʊjmɪtaɹ ˈʕismʊxʊt ˈniʕə ˈmɛtaɹ ˈmʏʊɹjaɹ ˈʏʊhɾʊmpːʊjɹ/
beyond.that like-1s dog be.big-3s enjoy.doing-3s run.around-3s
On top of that, I like big dogs that enjoy running around.

ܟܥܘܦܝܡ ܡܥܘܫܟܕܘܡ
kopim moshkedum
dog-PL be.problem-CAUS-3pl
Dogs cause problems.

Grrowrrr meow grrowrry grrr bow. Bow mek grrowrrr ach oogrry xhrrub, oogrry bow bowl grrr grrowrrr ach-ach, grrowrrr grrowl "WAGRRH WAGRRH!" grrr bow ach-ach.
Mountain lions don't like dogs. Dogs make mountain lions climb big trees. A lot of dogs bark at the mountain lion to climb down, and then the mountain lion growls at them to clear off, and they go away.

Vijay wrote:Grrowrrr meow grrowrry grrr bow. Bow mek grrowrrr ach oogrry xhrrub, oogrry bow bowl grrr grrowrrr ach-ach, grrowrrr grrowl "WAGRRH WAGRRH!" grrr bow ach-ach.
Mountain lions don't like dogs. Dogs make mountain lions climb big trees. A lot of dogs bark at the mountain lion to climb down, and then the mountain lion growls at them to clear off, and they go away.

O.O Hi e ma?
O.O What's this?

Grrowl
Mountain Lion

uyisbu mai kabáma
bedroom-ACC 3pl.GEN be.large-AUG-3s
Our bedroom is very large.

Mi-dem slip rum in bik fo so, oba im swel in likl.
Our bedroom isn't that large, but it's not small either.


JAL

No nunat kitu tod li ed nukaip, no ama kim molas era.
My bedroom is big enough for me to fit into.

Wowgrrr berroogrrr grrarrr grrowka, rrekin Wowgrrr caan grrek wahaam bi.
My bedroom is small, but I can stay in it, too.

Heytsə dzenla šu tširyə, əts ts'i šitš'ə xire tširyə.
sleep-GER room-1.S NEG big-3.S.M and DIST.S.M however enough big-3.S.M
[ˈhejtsʰɐ ˈdzenlæ ˈɕu ˈtɕʰiɾjɐ | ɐtsʰ ˈtsʼi ˈɕitɕʼɐ ˈxiɾe ˈtɕʰiɾjɐ]
My bedroom is not big, but it is big enough.

Káyatsə lahem ts'iz-tša kəlasan waġowə.
growl-GER language DIST.S.F=DAT explain-PATN want.IPFV-1.S-3.S.M
[ˈkʰɑjætsʰɐ ˈlæhem ˈtsʼiztɕʰæ ˈkʰɐlæsæn ˈwæɣowɐ]
I want a gloss to that growl-language.

It's a conlang with ambiguity on steroids.

Grrowrrr meow grrowrry grrr bow.
mountain.lion(cub) NEG happy PREP dog
'Mountain lions don't like dogs.'
(Grrowrrr means 'mountain lion cub/kitten' by default but can also be used to mean 'mountain lion' in general or any other kind of offpsring. When referring to other kinds of offspring, it must be preceded by the name of the animal/plant/whatever. Also, grrr is far more ambiguous than the gloss suggests and depends heavily on context).

Bow mek grrowrrr ach oogrry xhrrub,
dog CAUS mountain.lion.(cub) ascend/travel.slowly big/very/many vegetation
'Dogs make mountain lions climb big trees.'

oogrry bow bowl grrr grrowrrr ach-ach,
big/very/many dog bark/speak.dog.language COMP mountain.lion.(cub) descend/travel.quickly
'A lot of dogs bark at the mountain lion to climb down,'

grrowrrr grrowl "WAGRRH WAGRRH!" grrr bow ach-ach.
mountain.lion.(cub) growl/speak.(mountain.lion.language) clear.off clear.off CONJ dog descend/travel.quickly
'and then the mountain lion growls at them to clear off, and they run away.'
(Wagrrh wagrrh is really one word. A more accurate translation of ach-ach in this context would be 'run away', even though I wrote 'go away' earlier).

Wowgrrr berr-oogrrr grrarrr grrowka,
adult.male.mountain.lion bed-thing/deer home small
'My bedroom is small,'

rrekin Wowgrrr caan grrek wahaam bi.
but adult.male.mountain.lion can live there two/also
'but I can stay in it, too.'

Grrowl itself means 'Mountain Lion language' by default but can also mean 'language'.

Siləm zorlåše-pə låġá-pə zitše-zə row-lo šu ġuhowə.
serious consider-1.P-SJV=COMP be_supposed-3.S.M=COMP some-S.F=REL way=INST NEG believe.IPFV-1.S-3.S.M
[ˈsilɐm ˈzoɾlɔɕepʰɐ ˈlɔɣɑpʰɐ ˈzitɕʰezɐ ˈɾowlo ˈɕu ˈɣuhowɐ ]
Somehow I don't think we're supposed to take it seriously.

Litšə došeyšan-k'əl xowlå-pə šu låġá-pə wəlowə.
sound write-PATN=ABL ask.PFV-1.P=COMP NEG be_supposed-3.S.M=COMP assume-1.S-3.S.M
[ˈlitɕʰɐ ˈdoɕejɕænkʼɐl ˈxowlɔpʰɐ ˈɕu ˈlɔɣɑpʰɐ ˈwɐlowɐ]
I assume we are not supposed to ask for a transcription.

Ri bak ed teaigi, suk kilai pin? Pod ed sinok hai kib, paik naito nai lino li.
Who the fuck cares what we're supposed to do? Tell us how to pronounce your language.

It swit mi minu in af no layan de Sajiwa montan.
I'm glad there aren't any lions in the Sajiwan mountains.


JAL

jal wrote:It swit mi minu in af no layan de Sajiwa montan.
I'm glad there aren't any lions in the Sajiwan mountains.

Attu toyé Tarré leónai nérantis.
also ART-F.SG.LOC Tarra-LOC lion-PL.NOM NEG-be-PRES.ACT.3PL
There are no lions on Tarra, too.

(Lions are only known as exotic animals from books.)

Dē Graut Bʉr wrote:Ri bak ed teaigi, suk kilai pin? Pod ed sinok hai kib, paik naito nai lino li.
Who the fuck cares what we're supposed to do? Tell us how to pronounce your language.

De ts'i tulyə-zə hək'a dzek'imde-lo kutswə zəhuywə?
PROX.S.M DIST.S.M many-3.S.M=REL nation script-DEF.S.F=INST say.PFV-GER-3.S.M be_able.IPFV-3.S.M-3.S.M
[ˈde ˈtsʼi ˈtʰuljɐzɐ ˈhɐkʼæ ˈdzekʼimdelo ˈkʰutsʰwɐ ˈzɐhujwɐ]
Can he express it with IPA?

Wowgrrr caan trry.
adult.male.mountain.lion can try
I can try.

[gʁæwʁ mjæw ˈgʁæwʁi gʁ baw]. [baw mɛk gʁæwʁ ʔaχ ˈʔuːʁi χʁəb], [ˈʔuːʁi baw bawɭ gʁ gʁæwʁ ʔaˈχaχ], [gʁæwʁ gʁæwl waʁ waʁ gʁ baw ʔaˈχaχ]. [wawʁ bɛˈʁuːʁ ~ bɛˈɖuːʁ gʁaʁ ˈgʁæwka], [ˈʁekɪn wawʁ kaːn gʁɛk waˈhaːm bi]. [wawʁ kaːn tʁaj].

Lårkə ezow aku någawdə əts mul ts'iwə-no ts'exáwu row-k'ə lelləyowə.
mountain cat voice system-3.S.M-DEF.S.M and person DIST.S.M-3.S.M=PAT compare.IPFV-3.P.M way-LOC wonder.IPFV-1.S-3.S.M
[ˈlɔɾkʰɐ ˈezow ˈækʰu ˈnɔgæwdɐ ɐtsʰ ˈmul ˈtsʼiwɐno ˈtsʼexɑwu ˈrowkʼɐ lelˈlɐjowɐ]
I wonder how the vocal tract of a mountain lion compares to that of a human.

Vijay wrote:Wowgrrr caan trry.
adult.male.mountain.lion can try
I can try.

[gʁæwʁ mjæw ˈgʁæwʁi gʁ baw]. [baw mɛk gʁæwʁ ʔaχ ˈʔuːʁi χʁəb], [ˈʔuːʁi baw bawɭ gʁ gʁæwʁ ʔaˈχaχ], [gʁæwʁ gʁæwl waʁ waʁ gʁ baw ʔaˈχaχ]. [wawʁ bɛˈʁuːʁ ~ bɛˈɖuːʁ gʁaʁ ˈgʁæwka], [ˈʁekɪn wawʁ kaːn gʁɛk waˈhaːm bi]. [wawʁ kaːn tʁaj].

Ts'i-k'ə-zə zikem-zə hink'ə ts'ü liklə xámori.
DIST.S.M=LOC=REL sound-P.F=REL throat back sound-P.F expect.IPFV-1.S-3.P.F
[ˈtsʼikʼɐzɐ ˈzikemzɐ ˈhiŋkʼɐ ˈtsʼy ˈlikʰlɐ ˈxɑmoɾi]
I was expecting some pharyngeals in there.

Liwåmu Nik'ə nora-k'ə såx hålawtu.
lion-P.M Nik'ə country=LOC one legend-ADJ-3.P.M
[ˈliwɔmu ˈnikʼɐ ˈnoɾækʼɐ ˈsɔx ˈhɔlæwtu]
Lions are only legendary in Nik'ə.

Another paragraph of The Hobbit. Quite happy having this down, as it contains both a number of expressions of amazement and flower names, the latter which I had to translate into Caribbean flowers that also invoke the shape iof fireworks (so I had to research Caribbean flowers for a while).

Obit ya wrote:“Gandaf, Gandaf! Komfon mi don! Yu in wok wok majik man im gi Ol Man Tuk tu geda majik dayman botm dem bile imsef, an neba lus til tel so? Yu in bwoda ya im yus tel so majik tel de fis-dem, bo dwagn an ohk an jayan, an sefing a pwinsas an no-fosi lok a det-paran son? Yu in man ya im mek gut gut faya majik fo so! Mi memba dis! Ol Man Tuk yus ohganays dem wen Mitsoma Pwaya Nay. Maynifisan! Dem yus flay ina skay sem spayda lili an cef bwos flowas an tohc lili ota faya, an ang de ifning lay optu dahk a nay!” Yu redi pikop Mst. Pocins in so dol sem im won tingk, an olso im won dem flowas fo so. “Kis mi ay!” im gwan. “Yu in Gandaf im mek olip a kwaya lat an las lef wok yon an gon fi mat abenca? Olda mata sta klaym pam op kol pon elf-dem—o sel pon cip, sel twoh oda coh! Kwis mi an, lif yus kway fib—mi min, yu yus komfyus mata de dis pah-dem wen de im redi gon. Af mi pahdm, oba mi in se atol yu longga mek bisnis.”

The original English: EDIT:
Spayda lili, Hymenocallis caribaea


Cef bwos pam, Pseudobombax ellipticum

Cef bwos flowa:


Tohc lili, Kniphofia uvaria



JAL