Romanization challenge thread

[Nortaneous]

Mind az egês fœldnek pedig eyd nyelve êys eydfêle besêde vala.
Êys lœ̂n mikor kelet felœ̂l elindultak vala, Syneâr fœldên eyd sŷksyâgot talâlânak êys ott letelepedênek.
Êys mondânak eydmâsnak: vessyᵫnk têglât êys êgessyᵫk ki yôl; êys lœ̂n nêkik a têgla kœ̂ dyanânt, a surok pedig ragastô dyanânt.
Êys mondânak: Yertek, êpîtsyᵫnk magunknak vâroyst êys tornyot, meylnek teteye az eget êrye, êys serezzᵫnk magunknak nevet, hoyd el ne sêledyᵫnk az egês fœldnek sînên.

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Here is my romanization of Hungarian. It's not too different from Esmelthien's one, but it uses carons for palatals to fit in better with the nearby Slavic languages.

A tudomáň a bennynket kørylvevǿ világ megišmeréšére iráňuló tevékeňšég éš az ezen tevékeňšég šorán serzett išmeretek øsseššége. A tevékeňšégnek bárki által megšmételhetǿnek kell lennje éš végeredméňben azonoš eredméňre kell vezetnje ahhoz, hodž az eredméňt tudomáňoš eredméňnek nevezheššyk. A tudomáň eredméňe edžetemeš érvéňý.

[Nortaneous]

A tudomâyn a bennᵫnket kœrᵫlvevœ̂ vilâg megiysmerêsyêre irânyulô tevêkeynsyêg êys az ezen tevêkeynsyêg syorân serzett iysmeretek œssessyêge. A tevêkeynsyêgnek bârki âltal megismêtelhetœ̂nek kell lennie êys vêgeredmêynben azonoys eredmêynre kell vezetnie ahhoz, hoyd az eredmêynt tudomânyoys eredmêyn·nek nevezhessyᵫk. A tudomâyn eredmênye edyetemeys êrvênyᵫ̂.

[R.Rusanov]

Bulgarian:

/m n/ m n
/p t k b d g/ p t k b d g
/ts tʃ dʒ/ c cs dzs
/ʃt ʒd/ ty gy
/f s ʃ x v z ʒ/ f sz s h v z zs
/r l~w/ r l
/j/ y

Отче наш, Който си на небесата!
Да се свети името Твое,
да дойде Царството Твое,
да бъде волята Твоя,
както на небето, тъй и на земята;
хляб нас насъщни дай нам и днес,
и ни прости дълговете,
както и ние прощаваме на свойте длъжници,
и когато изпаднем в изкушение,
избави нас от лукавото;
защото Твое е царството,
и силата, и славата сега за винаги и за век и веков.

Ócse nas, kóyto szi na nebeszáta,
Da sze szvetí ímeto Tvóe,
da dóyde Cársztvoto Tvóe,
da bőde vólyata Tvóya,
Kákto na nebéto, töy i na zemyáta;
Hlyab nasz naszőtyni day nam i dnesz,
i ni prosztí dőlgovete,
kákto i níe protyávame na szvóyte dlözsníci,
i kogáto izpádnem v izkusénie,
izbaví nasz ot lukávoto;
zatyóto Tvóe e cársztvoto,
i sziláta, i szlávata szegá za vínagi i za vek i vekóv.

[2+3 clusivity]

/m, mʱ, n, nʱ, ɳ, ɳʱ/
/ʋ, ʋʱ, l, lʱ, ɭ, ɭʱ, y, yʱ/
/b, bʱ, d, dʱ, g, gʱ/
/p, pʰ, t, tʰ, k, kʰ/
/dz, dʒ/
/ts, tsʰ, ʈʂ, ʈʂʰ, tʃ, tʃʰ/
/z, ʐ, ʒ, ɣ, ɦ/
/f, s, ʂ, ʃ, x/
/r, rʱ, r̠, r̠ʱ/

(C)(y, ʋ)(ʰ/ʱ)V(N)(c)(ʰ/ʱ)

/i:, ĩ:, ʉ:, ʉ̃:, u:, ũ:/
/ɪ, ʊ/
/e:, ẽ:, ə, o:, õ:/
/ɛ:, a:, ã:, ɔ:/

With long vowels: /11, 13, 32, 33 or 22/ 1=high, 2=mid, 3=low
With short vowels /1, 2, 3/

[2+3 clusivity]

Bulgarian:

...

/ʃt ʒd/ ty gy

...

These are not supposed to be phonemes, are they?

[Nortaneous]

[quote="R.Rusanov"]Bulgarian:

/m n/ m n
/p t k b d g/ p t c~qu b d g~gu
/ts tʃ dʒ/ tz tx~c tj~g
/ʃt ʒd/ xt jd
/f s ʃ x v z ʒ/ f s x h u~v z j
/r l~w/ r l
/j/ i~y

stress unmarked if on first syllable

Otxe nax, coito si na nebesáta,
Da se suetí imeto Tuoye
da doide Tzárstuoto Tuoye,
da byde voliata Tuoya,
cacto na nebéto, tyi i na zemiáta;
Hliab nas nasýxtni dai nam i dnes,
i ni prostí dylgovete,
cacto i nië protiávame na suoite dlyjnítzi,
i cogáto izpádnem v izcuxénië,
izbaví nas ot lucávoto,
zatióto Tuoye e tzarstuoto,
i siláta, i slavata segá za vinagi i za vec i vecou.

[sangi39]

Bulgarian:

/m n/ <m n>
/p t k b d g/ <p t k b d g>
/ts tʃ dʒ/ <c č ǯ>
/ʃt ʒd/ <ć ź>
/f s ʃ x v z ʒ/ <f s š h v z ž>
/r l~w/ <r l>
/j/ <j>

/i u e o a ɤ/ <i u e o a y>

Otče naš, Kojto si na nebesata!
Da se sveti imeto Tvoe,
da dojde Carstvoto Tvoe,
da byde voljata Tvoja,
kakto na nebeto, tyj i na zemjata;
hljab nas nasyćni daj nam i dnes,
i ni prosti dylgovete,
kakto i nie proćavame na svojte dlyžnici,
i kogato izpadnem v izkušenie,
izbavi nas ot lukavoto;
zaćoto Tvoe e carstvoto,
i silata, i slavata sega za vinagi i za vek i vekov.

[sangi39]

2+3 clusivity's 'lang:

/m, mʱ, n, nʱ, ɳ, ɳʱ/ <m mh n nh ṅ ṅh>
/ʋ, ʋʱ, l, lʱ, ɭ, ɭʱ, y, yʱ/ <v vh l lh ḷ ḷh y yh>
/b, bʱ, d, dʱ, g, gʱ/ <b bh d dh g gh>
/p, pʰ, t, tʰ, k, kʰ/ <p ph t th k kh>
/dz dʒ/ <dz ǰ>
/ts, tsʰ, ʈʂ, ʈʂʰ, tʃ, tʃʰ/ <c ch ċ ċh č čh>
/z, ʐ, ʒ, ɣ, ɦ/ <z ż ž j h>
/f, s, ʂ, ʃ, x/ <f s ṡ š x>
/r, rʱ, r̠, r̠ʱ/ <r rh ṛ ṛh>

/i:, ĩ:, ɪ, e:, ɛ:, ẽ:/ <ii į i ee ea ę>
/ʉ:, ʉ̃:, a:, ã:, ə/ <u ų a ą e>
/u:, ũ:, o:, ɔ:, õ:, ʊ/ <uu ųų oo ǫ o>

With long vowels: /11, 13, 32, 33 or 22/ <áá áà àa àà aa> or <á áà àa à a> over long nasal vowels, requires doubling the whole letter for 13 and 32, though, e.g. <ę́ę̀>
With short vowels /1, 2, 3/ <á a à>

[Nortaneous]

/m n/ m n
/p t k b d g/ p t c~qu b d g~gu
/ts tʃ dʒ/ ç cc~cci gg~ggi
/ʃt ʒd/ cti gdi
/f s ʃ x v z ʒ/ f s c~ci h u~v z g~gi
/r l~w/ r l w
/j/ y

stress unmarked if on first syllable

Occie naic, coyto si na nebesata!
Da se sweti imeto Twoye
da doyde çarstwoto Twoye,
da bude wolyata Twoya,
cacto na nebeto, tuy i na zemyata;
hlyab nas nasuictni day nam i dnes,
i ni prosti dulgovete,
cacto i niye proctiavame na swoyte dleuigniçi,
i cogato izpadnem w izkoucieniye,
izbavi nas ot loukavoto;
zactioto Twoye e çarstwoto,
i silata, i slawata sega za winagui i za wec i wecow.

[Nortaneous]

Ottsche naßch, Kojto si na nebeßata!
Da ße ßweti imeto Twoje,
da dojde Tzarßtwoto Twoje,
da büde woljata Twoja,
kakto na nebeto, tüj i na semjata;
chljab naß naßüschtni daj nam i dneß,
i ni prosti dülgowete,
kakto i nije proschtawame na ßwojte dlüschnitzi,
i kogato ispadnem w iskußchenije,
isbawi naß ot lukawoto;
saschtoto Twoje e tzarßtwoto,
i ßilata, i ßlavata ßega sa winagi i sa wek i wekow.

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Turkish:

/m n/
/p b t d tʃ dʒ (c) (ɟ) k g/
/f v s z ʃ ʒ h/
/w* (l) ɫ j r/
/i y ɯ u e ø a o/
*w is how i transcribed ‹ğ›.

/c ɟ l/ are generally allophones of /k g ɫ/ after front vowels, but they can occur before back vowels in borrowings.

/ban ɡiderim adɯm kaɫɯɾ dostɫar beni hatɯrlasɯn dywyn oɫur bajram gelir/

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/m n/ m n
/p b t d tʃ dʒ (c) (ɟ) k g/ p b t d č ǰ k/ki g/gi k g
/f v s z ʃ ʒ h/ f v s z š ž h
/w (l) ɫ j r/ ğ l/li y/i r
/i y ɯ u e ø a o/ i ư ĭ u e ơ a o

ki, gi and li before back vowels
i next to consonants

ban giderim adĭm kalĭr dostlar beni hatĭrlasĭn dưğưn olur bairam gelir
/ban ɡiderim adɯm kaɫɯɾ dostɫar beni hatɯrlasɯn dywyn oɫur bajram gelir/

[Nortaneous]

/p b t d tʃ dʒ (c) (ɟ) k g/ <p b t d ch j k(y) g(y) k g>
/f v s z ʃ ʒ h/ <f v s z sh zh h>
/w* (l) ɫ j r/ <gh l(y) l y r>
/i y ɯ u e ø a o/ <i ui eu u e oe a o>

/ban ɡiderim adɯm kaɫɯɾ dostɫar beni hatɯrlasɯn dywyn oɫur bajram gelir/
Ban giderim adeum kaleur dostlar beni hateurlaseun duighuin olur bayram gelir.

[Pole, the]

Bulgarinyin:

/m n/ m n
/p t k b d g/ p t k b d g
/ts tʃ/ c q
/f s ʃ x v z ʒ/ f s x h w z j
/r l~w/ r l
/j/ i/y

/i u e o a ɤ/ i/yi u ie/ye o a e

Отче наш, Който си на небесата!
Да се свети името Твое,
да дойде Царството Твое,
да бъде волята Твоя,
както на небето, тъй и на земята;
хляб нас насъщни дай нам и днес,
и ни прости дълговете,
както и ние прощаваме на свойте длъжници,
и когато изпаднем в изкушение,
избави нас от лукавото;
защото Твое е царството,
и силата, и славата сега за винаги и за век и веков.

Otqie nax, Koito si na niebiesata!
Da sie swieti yimieto Twoye,
da doidie Carstwoto Twoye,
da bedie woliata Twoya,
kakto na niebieto, tei yi na ziemiata;
hliab nas nasextni dai nam yi dnies,
yi ni prosti delgowietie,
kakto yi niye proxtawamie na swoitie dlejnici,
yi kogato yizpadniem w yizkuxieniye,
yizbawi nas ot lukawoto;
zaxtoto Twoye ye carstwoto,
yi silata, yi slawata siega za winagi yi za wiek yi wiekow.

[Haplogy]

Turkish:

/m n/ <m n>
/p b t d tʃ dʒ (c) (ɟ) k g/ <p b t d c j k/ke g/ge k g>
/f v s z ʃ ʒ h/ <f v s z ch jh h>
/ɰ (l) ɫ j r/ <gh l/le l y r>

/i y ɯ u e ø a o/ <i/ı u̇/u î/ı û/u ȧ/a ȯ/o â/a ô/o>
When a vowel has a diacritic stating whether it's front or back, all following vowels until the end of the word will also be front/back. If the vowel harmony shifts in the middle of a word, in some names, for example, another diacritic is used to reflect this shift. E.g. /muvaffacijetsizleʃtirid͡ʒileʃtiriveremejebiled͡ʒeklerimizdenmiʃsinizd͡ʒesine/ <mûvaffakiyatsızlachtırıjılachtırıvaramayajaklarımızdanmıchsınızjasına>

Bân giderım âdım kâlır dôstlar bȧnı hâtırlasın du̇ghun ôlur bâyram gȧlır.
/ban ɟiderim adɯm kaɫɯɾ dostɫar beni hatɯrlasɯn dyɰyn oɫur bajram gelir/

[sangi39]

Turkish:

/m n/ <m n>
/p b t d tʃ dʒ (c) (ɟ) k g/ <p b t d c j (ki) (gi) k g>
/f v s z ʃ ʒ h/ <f v s z sh zh h>
/ɰ (l) ɫ j r/ <ğ (li) l y r>

/i y ɯ u e ø a o/ <i ü ï u e ö a o>

/ban ɡiderim adɯm kaɫɯɾ dostɫar beni hatɯrlasɯn dywyn oɫur bajram gelir/
Ban ɡiderim adïm kalïr dostlar beni hatïrlasïn düğün olur bayram gelir.

I couldn't get rid of <ğ>. It's just not Turkish without it.

[Hallow XIII]

Hallownesian, vol. 2:

p t ʈ k
v ~ f ð ~ θ ʝ ~ ç ɣ ~ x
ʂ ʐ ɕ
t͡ʂ ʈ͡ʂ t͡ɕ d͡ʑ
ʍ w
l ɫ ɭ
j r
n ɳ ŋ

i y ɨ ʉ u
e ø ɤ o
ə
æ ɑ

eɪ̯ aɪ̯ aʊ̯ ɔʏ̯ œʏ̯ oɐ̯ ɛʌ̯ ɤɪ̯
v˥ v˧ v ˨˥ v ˦˩ v ˧˩˦


/t͡ɕɨ˥vɛʌ̯˥jə˧ iç˥˨ðoɐ̯˨˥ʂøə̯˥ næ˥ɣə˥˨ eɪ̯˥ne˧vi˥rə˧tə˧ɣɫyɐ̯˨˥ʂə˧və˧˩˥ti˧/

[2+3 clusivity]

Not sure where I was going with this, had a sorta Hmong inspiration for the tone letters.

/ t ʈ k/ <t c k>
/v ~ f ð ~ θ ʝ ~ ç ɣ ~ x/ <b d j g>
/ʂ ʐ ɕ / <s z sy>
/t͡ʂ ʈ͡ʂ t͡ɕ d͡ʑ/ <ts cs ty dy> (is the first member supposed to be /t͡s/? I would think otherwise its just a cluster)
/ʍ w/ <h w>
/l ɫ ɭ j/ <ly l r y>
/n ɳ ŋ/ <ny n m>

/i y ɨ ʉ u/ <i iu ia ui u>
/e ø ɤ o/ <e eo oe o>
/ə/ <au>
/æ ɑ/ <a ao>

/eɪ̯ aɪ̯ aʊ̯ ɔʏ̯ œʏ̯ oɐ̯ ɛʌ̯ ɤɪ̯/ <ey ay aw aoiu aiu oa eau oey>
/v˥ v˧ v ˨˥ v ˦˩ v ˧˩˦/ <Vf V Vv Vq Vp>

/t͡ɕɨ˥vɛʌ̯˥jə˧ iç˥˨ðoɐ̯˨˥høə̯˥ næ˥ɣɐ˥˨ eɪ̯˥ne˧vi˥rə˧tə˧ɣɫyɐ̯˨˥ʂə˧va˧˩˥ti˧/
<tsiafbeaufyau ijqdoav?eoauf nafg?q . . . . >

[Hallow XIII]

Whoops. Fixed it.

(is the first member supposed to be /t͡s/? I would think otherwise its just a cluster)

Well, yes and no. It is ts), but with apical s.

[Nortaneous]

p t ʈ k <p t tr k>
v ~ f ð ~ θ ʝ ~ ç ɣ ~ x <f d j g>
ʂ ʐ ɕ <s z x>
t͡ʂ ʈ͡ʂ t͡ɕ d͡ʑ <c cr ch jy>
ʍ w <wh w>
l ɫ ɭ <l ll lr>
j r <y r>
n ɳ ŋ <n nr ng>

i y ɨ ʉ u <i ü î û u>
e ø ɤ o <e ö ô o>
ə <ë>
æ ɑ <ä a>

eɪ̯ aɪ̯ aʊ̯ ɔʏ̯ œʏ̯ oɐ̯ ɛʌ̯ ɤɪ̯ <ey ay au oy öy oa eo ôy>
v˥ v˧ v ˨˥ v ˦˩ v ˧˩˦ <a aƨ aз aч aƽ>

/t͡ɕɨ˥vɛʌ̯˥jə˧ iç˥˨ðoɐ̯˨˥ʂøə̯˥ næ˥ɣə˥˨ eɪ̯˥ne˧vi˥rə˧tə˧ɣɫyɐ̯˨˥ʂə˧və˧˩˥ti˧/
Chîveoyëƨ ijчdoaзsöa nägëч eyneƨvirëƨtëƨgllüaзsëƨvëƽtiƨ.

or

Tones 1 and 2:
p t ʈ k <p t tr k>
v ~ f ð ~ θ ʝ ~ ç ɣ ~ x <f th ch kh>
ʂ ʐ ɕ <s sz sy>
t͡ʂ ʈ͡ʂ t͡ɕ d͡ʑ <ts tsr ty tj>
ʍ w <qu wh>
l ɫ ɭ <ł łh łr>
j r <y rh>
n ɳ ŋ <n nr ng>

Tones 3, 4, and 5:
p t ʈ k <b d dr g>
v ~ f ð ~ θ ʝ ~ ç ɣ ~ x <v dh jh gh>
ʂ ʐ ɕ <z zz zy>
t͡ʂ ʈ͡ʂ t͡ɕ d͡ʑ <dz dzr dy dj>
ʍ w <gu w>
l ɫ ɭ <l lh lr>
j r <j r>
n ɳ ŋ <nn rn gn>

Tones 1 and 3:
i y ɨ ʉ u <ii uu ie ue uo>
e ø ɤ o <im oi io oo>
ə <ee>
æ ɑ <ai aa>
eɪ̯ aɪ̯ aʊ̯ ɔʏ̯ œʏ̯ oɐ̯ ɛʌ̯ ɤɪ̯ <ej aj av ov oj oum eim eoj>

Tones 2 and 4:
i y ɨ ʉ u <i u ei eu ou>
e ø ɤ o <am oe eo o>
ə <e>
æ ɑ <ae a>
eɪ̯ aɪ̯ aʊ̯ ɔʏ̯ œʏ̯ oɐ̯ ɛʌ̯ ɤɪ̯ <ey ay aw ow oy om em eoy>

Tone 5:
i y ɨ ʉ u <iy uw iey uew ouw>
e ø ɤ o <um oey eow oow>
ə <eey>
æ ɑ <aey ao>
eɪ̯ aɪ̯ aʊ̯ ɔʏ̯ œʏ̯ oɐ̯ ɛʌ̯ ɤɪ̯ <eiy aiy auw oauw oiy oam eam eoiy>


/t͡ɕɨ˥vɛʌ̯˥jə˧ iç˥˨ðoɐ̯˨˥ʂøə̯˥ næ˥ɣə˥˨ eɪ̯˥ne˧vi˥rə˧tə˧ɣɫyɐ̯˨˥ʂə˧və˧˩˥ti˧/
Tyievemmye ijhdhoumseim naighe ejnamfiireteghlhoumsefeyti.

[Haplogy]

Hallownesian, vol. 2:

/p t ʈ k/ <p t tr k>
/v~f ð~θ ʝ~ç ɣ~x/ <v/f d gy/hy g>
/ʂ ʐ ɕ/ <s z x>
/t͡ʂ ʈ͡ʂ t͡ɕ d͡ʑ/ <ts trs tx j>
/ʍ w/ <w wh>
/l ɫ ɭ/ <l ll lr>
/j r/ <y r>
/n ɳ ŋ/ <n nr ng>

/i y ɨ ʉ u/ <i ui ǝi ǝu u>
/e ø ɤ o/ <e ǝo ǝe o>
/ə/ <ǝ>
/æ ɑ/ <əa a>
/eɪ̯ aɪ̯ aʊ̯ ɔʏ̯ œʏ̯ oɐ̯ ɛʌ̯ ɤɪ̯/ <ei ai au oy ey oa eu oi>
/v˥ v˧ v˨˥ v˦˩ v˧˩˦/ <v ṿ v́ v̀ v̌>

Txǝiveuyǝ̣ ìhydóasey nǝagǝ̀ einẹvirǝ̣tǝ̣gllúasǝ̣vǝ̌tị.
/t͡ɕɨ˥vɛʌ̯˥jə˧ iç˥˨ðoɐ̯˨˥ʂøə̯˥ næ˥ɣə˥˨ eɪ̯˥ne˧vi˥rə˧tə˧ɣɫyɐ̯˨˥ʂə˧və˧˩˥ti˧/

[2+3 clusivity]

Central Igbo a la Wikipedia with no nasals

/p pʰ pʲ pʲʰ t tʰ tɕ tɕʰ k kʰ kʷ kʷʰ ƙ͜ƥ/
/b bʱ bʲ bʲʱ d dʱ dʑ dʑʱ ɡ ɡʱ ɡʷ ɠ͜ɓ/
/f f̃ s s̃/
/v ṽ z z̃ ɣ ɣʷ/
/r r̃/
/j̊ j̊̃ w̥ w̥̃ h h̃/
/l j w/

/i ɪ e a u ʊ o ɔ/
tones: high and low, "downstepped high tone"


Sorry, no sample.
(C)V (optional consonant, vowel) or N (a syllabic nasal).

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/p pʰ pʲ pʲʰ t tʰ tɕ tɕʰ k kʰ kʷ kʷʰ ƙ͜ƥ/ p ph py phy t th c ch k kh kw khw kp
/b bʱ bʲ bʲʱ d dʱ dʑ dʑʱ ɡ ɡʱ ɡʷ ɠ͜ɓ/ b bh by bhy d dh j jh g gh gw ghw gb
/f f̃ s s̃/ f mf s ns
/v ṽ z z̃ ɣ ɣʷ/ v mv z nz q qw
/r r̃/ r nr
/j̊ j̊̃ w̥ w̥̃ h h̃/ sh nsh wh nwh h nh
/l j w/ l y w

/i ɪ e a u ʊ o ɔ/ i ie e a u uo o ao

/á à ꜜá/ á a à

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Central Igbo:

/p pʰ pʲ pʲʰ t tʰ tɕ tɕʰ k kʰ kʷ kʷʰ ƙ͜ƥ/ <p ph py phy t th ty thy k kh kw khw kp>
/b bʱ bʲ bʲʱ d dʱ dʑ dʑʱ ɡ ɡʱ ɡʷ ɠ͜ɓ/ <b bh by bhy d dh dy dhy g gh gw ghw gb>
/f f̃ s s̃/ <f mf s ns>
/v ṽ z z̃ ɣ ɣʷ/ <v mv z nz j jw>
/r r̃/ <r nr>
/j̊ j̊̃ w̥ w̥̃ h h̃/ <hy nhy hw nhw h nh>
/l j w/ <l y w>

/i ɪ e a u ʊ o ɔ/ <i ị e a u ụ o ọ>
tones: high and low, "downstepped high tone" - <á a à>
Syllabic nasal(s(?)) - <ẹ ạ> for syllabic /n m/ respectively.