Substantial postings about constructed languages and constructed worlds in general. Good place to mention your own or evaluate someone else's. Put quick questions in C&C Quickies instead.
Lyhoko Leaci wrote:Pwidai catal? Danas gah, cut tah mihlcuh.
pwi-
what-
dai
be
catal
cattle
danas
exist
gah
ga
cut
but
tah
NEG
mihlcuh
milk
What are cattle? There are ga, but we can't milk them.
Vetah zih dun un pot.
vetah
only
zih
ABIL
dun
kill
un
and
pot
eat
We can only kill them and eat them.
Kuellagódi weegåśineipa.
/kuə̯lːaɣoði wɛːɣɒɕinɛi̯pa/ plough.ACC-POSS.2ND.PL-ACC.SG pull-INSTR.3RD.PL.A-ACC.3RD.SG.A-NOM.2ND.PL=INT
Can you pull your plough with them?
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KathAveara wrote:(Redone a large part of the verbal system)
Helhán sew sélwenam peláwenam? What's a plough?
Mégne sew xýwwenam? Is it a tool?
Xywfánah sew? What is it used for?
Kiedlla bolut wićeśenn nuni laweneinnaci ge tepuśide.
/kiə̯ðlːa βɔlut witɕɛɕɛnː nuni lawɛnɛi̯nːatsi ɣɛ tɛpuɕiðɛ/ plough.NOM-NOM.SG field.ACC-ACC.PL furrow.ACC.3RD.SG.B-IMPF tool.ACC-ACC.SG grow.crops-NOM.2ND.PL-IMPF-ABL.SG when be-ABL.3RD.SG.A-ACC.3RD.SG.A-NOM.3RD.SG.A
A plow is a tool used to furrow fields when you grow crops.
Laweneinnpa?
/lawɛnɛi̯nːpa/ grow.crops-NOM.2ND.PL-IMPF=INT
Do you grow crops?
Lueti nɔu̯ hébeśaneidni wakaśaneidpa?
/luə̯ti nou xeβɛɕanɛi̯ðni wakaɕanɛi̯ðpa/ food.ACC-ACC.SG only hunt-ACC.3RD.SG.C-NOM.2ND.PL-IMPF=and gather-ACC.3RD.SG.C-NOM.2ND.PL-IMPF=INT
Do you only hunt and gather food?
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Travis B. wrote:
Kuellagódi weegåśinøypa.
/kuə̯lːaɣoði wɛːɣɒɕinœy̯pa/ plough.ACC-POSS.2ND.PL-ACC.SG pull-INSTR.3RD.PL.A-ACC.3RD.SG.A-NOM.2ND.PL=INT
Can you pull your plough with them?
Zih puhlal gah, cut fah puhlal zucehn.
zih
ABIL
puhlal
plow
gah
ga
cut
but
fah
GNO
puhlal
plow
zucehn
zuken
Ga can plow, but zuken are the ones that usually do the plowing.
Zain pazitovcor, sio? Sio, tovcor.
You can't read that, right? Yes, it says that.
Shinali Sishi wrote:"Have I spoken unclearly? I meant electric catfish not electric onions."
KathAveara wrote:Wyrfálhach teffálhach waqkálh. We hunt and gather.
Dyśaneic hesa luetiði śe mogaci hopåśaneikinpa.
/ðyɕanɛi̯ts xɛsa luə̯tiði ɕɛ mɔɣatsi xɔpɒɕanɛi̯kɪ̃ːpa/ eat.IMPF-ACC.3RD.SG.C-NOM.2ND.PL-IMPF enough food.ACC-ACC.SG-ACC.SG that manner.ABL-ABL.SG obtain-ABL.3RD.SG.B-ACC.3RD.SG.C-NOM.2ND.PL-IMPF=INT
Do you get enough food that you can eat in that way?
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Matrix wrote:Čyú dak čaþ u hôga jô ža jô Mírd až ôpex vaču "lahu" čyú "fúzaĥ u lahu" hôga jô jí žrð frú vlm bernr u víþ ônal pex tačiwa až hôga ô saônal sanal ðúnal ðantú hôga jô ža jô bernr frú až ôpex vaču "lahu" hôga jô wadô až ôpex tačiwa "fúzaĥ u lahu" šo?
Čyú
with
dak
know
čaþ
NMLZ
u
ADJ
hôga
upon
jô
of
ža
in
jô
of
Mírd
Mird
až
around
ô
PRES-
pex
do
vaču
speak
lahu
slave
čyú
with
fúzaĥ
state.of.humility
u
ADJ
lahu
slave
hôga
upon
jô
of
jí
two
žrð
word
frú
PL
vlm
very
bernr
other
u
ADJ
víþ
able
ô
PRES-
nal
be
pex
do
tačiwa
present
až
around
hôga
upon
ô
if
sa
NEG-
ô
PRES-
nal
be
sa
NEG-
nal
be
ðú
CONT-
nal
be
ðantú
great
hôga
upon
jô
of
ža
around
jô
of
bernr
other
frú
PL
až
around
ô
PRES-
pex
do
vaču
speak
lahu
slave
hôga
upon
jô
of
wadô
awake
až
around
ô
PRES-
pex
do
tačiwa
present
fúzaĥ
state.of.humility
u
ADJ
lahu
slave
šo
Q
In that light, when you speak of "slaves" and "common slaves", I think you mean two very different things, and perhaps - if I may be so bold - when everyone else has spoken of "slaves" what they meant were "common slaves"?
Maju zohar oxu ma? differ signify ESS.3s.DEF.INAN.REL be.what What's the difference?
Salmoneus wrote:That's like humans saying out of the blue that they have hands, but merely at the end of their arms (when nobody has suggested otherwise previously in the conversation).]
Komor une mie molas ewo. be.eyeball GEN.1s.MASC but be.merely be.two I have eyes but there are only two of them.
Komor une mie kujen ewo. be.eyeball GEN.1s.MASC but 'even' be.two I have eyes but there are two of them.
These are Ngolu idioms approximately equivalent to 'How could I have seen/known that?' and 'I saw that. I'm not blind.' The first part, komor une is ambiguous as regards to the number of eyeballs. The word kuje(n) is kind of the opposite of 'merely', it indicates significance and may be translated sometimes by 'even'.
Thry wrote:
Hallow XIII wrote:I petition for this thread to be renamed "moronic caricatures of barbarians & conlang fluency thread".
Ων όμνε πήτε ναι. Εξτράζεια σπάθα σει. On omne pite ne. Extrázia spatha si.
A man does not "petition". Unsheath your sword.
Ća seinåt "ga"-dutni "suken"-ut tebusapa?
/tɕa sɛi̯nɒt ɣaðutni sukɛnut tɛβusapa/ what thing.NOM-NOM.PL "ga"-ACC.PL=and "zuken"-ACC.PL be-ACC.3RD.PL.A-NOM.3RD.PL.A=INT
What are "ga"s and "zuken"s?
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Selfálhach. Méglhan sallhán þálhnef qýwna chehlhántywlhan tywésa.
Yes. There are fish in the ocean (lit. water) and many herds of Chehlhan (a type of animal which provides meat and hides, amongst other things).
Imralu wrote:Maju zohar oxu ma? What's the difference?
Hor horate, ha hore. Prora horatm, ha horm, mie. [g=slave]hor[/g] [g=slave]hor[/g] [g=-want]at[/g] [g=V]=ia[/g] [g=therefore]ha[/g] [g=slave]hor[/g] [g=V]=ia[/g] [g=common.slave]prora[/g] [g=slave]hor[/g] [g=-want]at[/g] [g=V]=mi[/g] [g=therefore]ha[/g] [g=slave]hor[/g] [g=V.NEG]=mi[/g] [g=V.NEG]=mi[/g] [g=V]=ia[/g] A slave wants to be a slave, so he's a slave. A common slave don't wanna be a slave, so he ain't a slave, inn'e.
Vikām, avkoāh ma avkoāh, bərokā shər elamamma ita. [g=time-]vik[/g][g=DAT]ā[/g][g=INDEF]m[/g] [g=year]avko[/g][g=DAT]ā[/g][g=PLU]ah[/g] [g=also]ma[/g] [g=year]avko[/g][g=DAT]ā[/g][g=PLU]ah[/g] [g=nation]barok[/g][g=DAT]ā[/g] [g=me]sh[/g][g=GEN]r[/g] [g=slave]elam[/g][g=PLU]ah[/g][g=INDEF]m[/g] [g=to.be]ih[/g][g=PST]ta[/g]
Once, many years ago, my nation had slaves.
(just testing out this gloss thingy - I don't even have a conpeople!)
KathAveara wrote:Méglha sew "Balance"? What is the Balance?
Kējīrdūs; Ḫol yot vēbog Vējīrtūr.
(Lit. "Force; it is similar to Gravity")
A force; It is like Gravity.
Ashi tsumə ma imfakə kai?
[g=1PL]hash[/g][g=ACC]i[/g] [g=to.surround]tsum[/g][g=AOR]ə[/g] [g=also]ma[/g] [g=to.penetrate]imfak[/g][g=AOR]ə[/g] [g=Q]kai[/g]
Does it surround and penetrate us?
Amvaki honā imshumə kai?
[g=universe]amvak[/g][g=ACC]i[/g] [g=one]hon[/g][g=DAT]ā[/g] [g=to.bind]imshum[/g][g=AOR]ə[/g] [g=Q]kai[/g]
Does it bind the galaxy together?
Virmə tinmanor kashirəko kai?
[g=person]vir[/g][g=INDEF]m[/g] [g=microbe]tinman[/g][g=INS]or[/g] [g=to.control]kashir[/g][g=AOR]ə[/g][g=POT]ko[/g] [g=Q]kai[/g]
Can one control it with microbes?
KathAveara wrote:Méglha sew "Balance"? What is the Balance?
Kējīrdūs; Ḫol yot vēbog Vējīrtūr.
(Lit. "Force; it is similar to Gravity")
A force; It is like Gravity.
Ashi tsumə ma imfakə kai?
[g=1PL]hash[/g][g=ACC]i[/g] [g=to.surround]tsum[/g][g=AOR]ə[/g] [g=also]ma[/g] [g=to.penetrate]imfak[/g][g=AOR]ə[/g] [g=Q]kai[/g]
Does it surround and penetrate us?
Amvaki honā imshumə kai?
[g=universe]amvak[/g][g=ACC]i[/g] [g=one]hon[/g][g=DAT]ā[/g] [g=to.bind]imshum[/g][g=AOR]ə[/g] [g=Q]kai[/g]
Does it bind the galaxy together?
Virmə tinmanor kashirəko kai?
[g=person]vir[/g][g=INDEF]m[/g] [g=microbe]tinman[/g][g=INS]or[/g] [g=to.control]kashir[/g][g=AOR]ə[/g][g=POT]ko[/g] [g=Q]kai[/g]
Can one control it with microbes?
Zē kikolyad nēīd…
I do not know...
Na, ya kīlxab ḫol.
but, we feel it.
Ḫol fīkēnnoy nēīd.
It cannot be controlled.
ʾAšol ḵavad pulqam ʾifbižen lav ʾifšimeḻ lit maseḡrad lav lit n͛ubad. ʾUpulasim ṗal sa-panžun lav sa-ḥadṇ lav ṗal šarmaḵeš lit ʾaẏṭ waẏyadanun wižqanam.
- Article 1 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights.
Róglaci hésepå nunut wabunei?
/roɣlatsi xesɛpɒ nunut waβunɛi̯/ bronze.ABL-ABL.PL make-PASS.STAT-ACC.3RD.SG.B tool-ACC.ACC.PL have-ACC.3RD.PL.A-NOM.2ND.PL
Do you have tools made out of bronze?
Purrici hésepå nunut gi wabunei?
/purːitsi xesɛpɒ nunut ɣi waβunɛi̯/ bronze.ABL-ABL.PL make-PASS.STAT-ACC.3RD.SG.B tool-ACC.ACC.PL merely have-ACC.3RD.PL.A-NOM.2ND.PL
Do you merely have tools made out of copper?
Gåsteci hésepå nunut nou wabunei?
/ɣɒstɛtsi xesɛpɒ nunut nɔu̯ waβunɛi̯/ bronze.ABL-ABL.PL make-PASS.STAT-ACC.3RD.SG.B tool-ACC.ACC.PL only have-ACC.3RD.PL.A-NOM.2ND.PL
Do you only have tools made out of stone?
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KathAveara wrote:Méglha sew "Balance"? What is the Balance?
Kējīrdūs; Ḫol yot vēbog Vējīrtūr.
(Lit. "Force; it is similar to Gravity")
A force; It is like Gravity.
Ashi tsumə ma imfakə kai?
[g=1PL]hash[/g][g=ACC]i[/g] [g=to.surround]tsum[/g][g=AOR]ə[/g] [g=also]ma[/g] [g=to.penetrate]imfak[/g][g=AOR]ə[/g] [g=Q]kai[/g]
Does it surround and penetrate us?
Amvaki honā imshumə kai?
[g=universe]amvak[/g][g=ACC]i[/g] [g=one]hon[/g][g=DAT]ā[/g] [g=to.bind]imshum[/g][g=AOR]ə[/g] [g=Q]kai[/g]
Does it bind the galaxy together?
Virmə tinmanor kashirəko kai?
[g=person]vir[/g][g=INDEF]m[/g] [g=microbe]tinman[/g][g=INS]or[/g] [g=to.control]kashir[/g][g=AOR]ə[/g][g=POT]ko[/g] [g=Q]kai[/g]
Can one control it with microbes?
Répune docidi hókaśita!
/repunɛ ðɔtsiði xokaɕita/ speak-ABL.3RD.SG.A-NOM.2ND.SG 3RD.SG.A.ACC-ABL.SG-ACC.SG know-not-ACC.3RD.SG.A-NOM.1ST.SG
I do not know what you speak of!
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Travis B. wrote:Róglaci hésepå nunut wabønøy?
/roɣlatsi xesɛpɒ nunut waβœnœy̯/ bronze.ABL-ABL.PL make-PASS.STAT-ACC.3RD.SG.B tool-ACC.ACC.PL have-ACC.3RD.PL.A-NOM.2ND.PL
Do you have tools made out of bronze?
Purrci hésepå nunut gi wabønøy?
/purːtsi xesɛpɒ nunut ɣi waβœnœy̯/ bronze.ABL-ABL.PL make-PASS.STAT-ACC.3RD.SG.B tool-ACC.ACC.PL merely have-ACC.3RD.PL.A-NOM.2ND.PL
Do you merely have tools made out of copper?
Gåstci hésepå nunut nou wabønøy?
/ɣɒsttsi xesɛpɒ nunut nɔu̯ waβœnœy̯/ bronze.ABL-ABL.PL make-PASS.STAT-ACC.3RD.SG.B tool-ACC.ACC.PL only have-ACC.3RD.PL.A-NOM.2ND.PL
Do you only have tools made out of stone?
Wot’nadunom tæʔi hhaa seen ʔẹ mo el sụụyute ææu.
/wot'nɑdunom tæʔi ɦɑː sẽː ʔḛ mo el sṵːjute æːu/ holy-ancestor-dunom make-EV.III years.ago bad.tool stone.OBL using because have-EV.III-3-NEG metal.DIR
It is said that years ago the holy ancestor Dunom made poor tools from stone because he had no metal.
Get ʔuuleo tælh či yu khæg mo.
/get ʔuːleo tælx tʃi ju kʰæg mo/ however ʔuuleo.DIR make-EV.IV today good.tool bronze.OBL using
However, today it is well known that the ʔuuleo make fine tools from bronze.
Dunom łæp'æ šigwoc Lupalhe ui.
/dunom ʎæp'æ ʃigwots Lupɑlhe ui/ dunom take-EV.III bronze-knowledge.DIR lukpanic.people.OBL from
It is said that Dunom won knowledge of bronze from the Lukpanic people.
