Romanization challenge thread

[Nortaneous]

I probably should've mentioned that æ is the most common vowel and a-umlaut was dropped because it was a pain in the ass to write -- so they replaced it with schwa and as a result the Latin orthography went basically unused for a long time.

[tezcatlip0ca]

Azerbaijani

/p b t d tʃ dʒ c ɟ k g/ p b t d cz dz ty gy k g
/f v s z ʃ ʒ x ɣ h/ f v s z sz ž ch gh h
/m n l r j/ m n l r j*
/æ a e ø o i y ɯ u/ e a é ö o i ü y u
*/j/ is i before a consonant and word-finally, except after /i/.

bytyn insanlar hejsijjæt væ haglar baxɯmɯndan dænk bærabær væ ærkin azad doɣularlar. Us ægl væ ujat vidʒdan jijæsidirlær væ bir birlærinæ garʃɯ gardaʃlɯg ruhu ilæ davranmalɯdɯrlar.

Bütün insanlar héisijjet ve haglar bachymyndan denk beraber ve erkin azad doghularlar. Us egl ve ujat vidzdan jijesidirler ve bir birlerine garszy gardaszlyg ruhu ile davranmalydyrlar.

[Nortaneous]

/p b t d tʃ dʒ c ɟ k g/ <p b t d č dž c đ k g>
/f v s z ʃ ʒ x ɣ h/ <f v s z š ž ch gh h>
/m n l r j/ <m n l r j>
/æ a e ø o i y ɯ u/ <e a ė ö o i ü y u>

bytyn insanlar hejsijjæt væ haglar baxɯmɯndan dænk bærabær væ ærkin azad doɣularlar. Us ægl væ ujat vidʒdan jijæsidirlær væ bir birlærinæ garʃɯ gardaʃlɯg ruhu ilæ davranmalɯdɯrlar.
Bütün insanlar hėjsijjet ve haglar bachymyndan denk beraber ve ercin azad doghularlar. Us egl ve ujat vidždan jijesidirler ve bir birlerine garšy gardašlyg ruhu ile davranmalydyrlar.

[8Deer]

Not really a challenge, more of a question. I have a proto-lang with a palatal and velar obstruents, along with corresponding labialised phonemes (č š vs k x, čw šw vs kw xw). In one daughter lang, velars are palatalised before front vowels (ki > či, kwi > čwi, etc). Then further along, the plain palatals become alveolar, the labio-palatals become retroflex and the labio-velars become plain velars. This, along with some vowel shifts, create the alternations /k~ʈʂ/ and /k~ts/. I want to romanize this in a way that reflects this etymology. For example:

*kʷa > ko "dog"
*kʷɪ > ʈʂa "dogs"
*əka > ko "stone"
*əkɪ > tse "stones"

[Nortaneous]

Not really a challenge, more of a question. I have a proto-lang with a palatal and velar obstruents, along with corresponding labialised phonemes (č š vs k x, čw šw vs kw xw). In one daughter lang, velars are palatalised before front vowels (ki > či, kwi > čwi, etc). Then further along, the plain palatals become alveolar, the labio-palatals become retroflex and the labio-velars become plain velars. This, along with some vowel shifts, create the alternations /k~ʈʂ/ and /k~ts/. I want to romanize this in a way that reflects this etymology. For example:

*kʷa > ko "dog"
*kʷɪ > ʈʂa "dogs"
*əka > ko "stone"
*əkɪ > tse "stones"

c̣o > c̣a, co > ce? (i'm assuming /a/ is a front vowel, otherwise c̣ä or something) and then <k> for /k/ before front vowels if it occurs

or ĉo > ĉa, or ço > ça, whatever

[Haplogy]

Azerbaijani:

/p b t d tʃ dʒ c ɟ k g/ <p b t d ĉ ĝ ć ǵ c g>
/f v s z ʃ ʒ x ɣ h/ <f v s z x j c̄ ḡ h>
/m n l r j/ <m n l r y>
/æ a e ø o i y ɯ u/ <a a̖ e o̗ o i u̗ i̖ u>

Bu̗tu̗n insa̖nla̖r heysiyyat va ha̖gla̖r ba̖c̄i̖mi̖nda̖n dank bara̖bar va arkin a̖za̖d doḡula̖rla̖r. Us agl va uya̖t viĝda̖n yiyasidirlar va bir birlarina ga̖rxi̖ ga̖rda̖xli̖g ruhu ila da̖vra̖nma̖li̖di̖rla̖r.
/bytyn insanlar hejsijjæt væ haglar baxɯmɯndan dænk bærabær væ ærkin azad doɣularlar. Us ægl væ ujat vidʒdan jijæsidirlær væ bir birlærinæ garʃɯ gardaʃlɯg ruhu ilæ davranmalɯdɯrlar./

[kanejam]

Azerbaijani, based roughly on English

/p b t d tʃ dʒ c ɟ k g/ <p b t d ch j ky gy k g>
/f v s z ʃ ʒ x ɣ h/ <f v s z sh zh kh gh h>
/m n l r j/ <m n l r j>
/æ a e ø o i y ɯ u/ <a/ai aa/o e oe o eu ee/i eu u oo> (second of a pair is form before <r>)

bytyn insanlar hejsijjæt væ haglar baxɯmɯndan dænk bærabær væ ærkin azad doɣularlar. Us ægl væ ujat vidʒdan jijæsidirlər væ bir birlærinæ garʃɯ gardaʃlɯg ruhu ilæ davranmalɯdɯrlar.
- Beuteun eensaanlar heyseeyyat va haaglar baakhumundaan dank bairaabair va airkeen azad doghularlar. Oos agl va ooyaat veejdaan yeeyaseedirlair va bir birlaireena garshu gardaashlug roohoo eela daavraanmaaludurlar.



Azerbaijani, Hungarian-inspired

/p b t d tʃ dʒ c ɟ k g/ <p b t d cs js c j k g>
/f v s z ʃ ʒ x ɣ h/ <f v sz z s zs x gx h>
/m n l r j/ <m n l r y>
/æ a e ø o i y ɯ u/ <à á è ò ó ì ù í ú> (grave means front vowel, acute means back vowel)

bytyn insanlar hejsijjæt væ haglar baxɯmɯndan dænk bærabær væ ærkin azad doɣularlar. Us ægl væ ujat vidʒdan jijæsidirlər væ bir birlærinæ garʃɯ gardaʃlɯg ruhu ilæ davranmalɯdɯrlar.
- Bùtùn ìnsánlár hèysìyyàt và háglár báxímíndán dànk bàrábàr và àrkìn ázád dógxúlárlár. Ús àgl và úyát vìjsdán hhhhhhh yìyàsìdìrlàr và bìr bìrlàrìnà gársí gárdáslíg rúhú ìlà dávránmálídírlár.

[Qwynegold]

Not really a challenge, more of a question. I have a proto-lang with a palatal and velar obstruents, along with corresponding labialised phonemes (č š vs k x, čw šw vs kw xw). In one daughter lang, velars are palatalised before front vowels (ki > či, kwi > čwi, etc). Then further along, the plain palatals become alveolar, the labio-palatals become retroflex and the labio-velars become plain velars. This, along with some vowel shifts, create the alternations /k~ʈʂ/ and /k~ts/. I want to romanize this in a way that reflects this etymology. For example:

*kʷa > ko "dog"
*kʷɪ > ʈʂa "dogs"
*əka > ko "stone"
*əkɪ > tse "stones"

It depends on the rest of your orthography, but here are some suggestions:

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t ts s    ʈʂ ʂ  k x
t ķ  s/ḩ  ḳ  ḥ  k h
t ki s/xi kr xr k x
t ki s/xi kw xw k x

[Nortaneous]

Azerbaijani in Fraser. I'm going to hell for this. I had to repurpose some characters for the palatals and /r/.

/p b t d tʃ dʒ c ɟ k g/ <ꓑ ꓐ ꓔ ꓓ ꓚ ꓙ ꓝ ꓜ ꓗ ꓖ>
/f v s z ʃ ʒ x ɣ h/ <ꓩ ꓪ ꓢ ꓤ ꓫ ꓣ ꓧ ꓭ ꓨ>
/m n l r j/ <ꓟ ꓠ ꓡ ꓦ ꓬ>
/æ a e ø o i y ɯ u/ <ꓯ ꓮ* ꓰ ꓱ ꓳ ꓲ ꓵ ꓶ ꓴ> * Not written after a consonant. <ꓷ> is used after a consonant that isn't followed by a vowel.

bytyn insanlar hejsijjæt væ haglar baxɯmɯndan dænk bærabær væ ærkin azad doɣularlar. Us ægl væ ujat vidʒdan jijæsidirlær væ bir birlærinæ garʃɯ gardaʃlɯg ruhu ilæ davranmalɯdɯrlar.

ꓐꓵꓔꓵꓠꓷ ꓲꓠꓷꓢꓠꓷꓡꓦꓷ ꓨꓰꓬꓷꓢꓲꓬꓷꓬꓯꓔꓷ ꓪꓯ ꓨꓖꓷꓡꓦꓷ ꓐꓧꓶꓟꓶꓠꓷꓓꓠꓷ ꓓꓯꓠꓷꓗꓷ ꓐꓯꓦꓐꓯꓦꓷ ꓪꓯ ꓯꓦꓷꓗꓲꓠꓷ ꓮꓤꓓꓷ ꓓꓳꓭꓴꓡꓦꓷꓡꓦꓷ. ꓴꓢꓷ ꓯꓖꓷꓡꓷ ꓪꓯ ꓴꓬꓔꓷ ꓪꓲꓙꓷꓓꓠꓷ ꓬꓲꓬꓯꓢꓲꓓꓲꓦꓷꓡꓯꓦꓷ ꓪꓯ ꓐꓲꓦꓷ ꓐꓲꓷꓦꓡꓯꓦꓲꓠꓯ ꓖꓦꓷꓫꓶ ꓖꓦꓷꓓꓫꓷꓡꓶꓖꓷ ꓦꓴꓨꓴ ꓲꓡꓯ ꓓꓪꓷꓦꓠꓷꓟꓡꓶꓓꓶꓦꓷꓡꓦꓷ.
bütünd̈ ind̈snd̈lv̈d̈ g̈eyd̈siyd̈yätd̈ wä g̈gd̈lvd̈ bhl̈ml̈nd̈dnd̈ dänd̈kd̈ bävbävd̈ wä ävd̈kind̈ ar̈dd̈ dob̈ulvd̈lvd̈. usd̈ ägd̈ld̈ wä uytd̈ wijd̈dnd̈ yiyäsidivd̈lävd̈ wä bivd̈ bid̈vlävinä gvd̈xl̈ gvd̈dxd̈ll̈gd̈ vug̈u ilä dwd̈vnd̈mll̈dl̈vd̈lvd̈.

eheheh I wonder what it would look like if I wrote Lisu that way

go lë nyi nu w w k̈u ny ẗë lë bä mu kw ẗä si kw ty m aw nu b bo nu myë si xy m tä p̈ü ty fi nu kud̈ do l fi mu kw ẗä si kw nu ni ll̈ p̈yë l m le be mi nä kw mi p̈yë l fi ẗi nyi le ẗi nyi v̈w nu rë yä m z du nyi nyi v̈w nu tä gl̈ z lä

[Haplogy]

Something I find very, very sexy:

/m n ɲ/
/mː nː ɲː/
/p b t d c ɟ k g/
/pː tː cː kː/
/f v s z x~h/
/fː sː xː/
/r rʲ l ʎ/
/rː r̝ː lː ʎː/
/j jː/

/i iː ɨ ɨː u uː/
/ɛ eː ə ɜː o oː/
/ɑ aː/
/iʊ̯ ɛʊ̯ aʊ̯/
/uɪ̯ ɔɪ̯ aɪ̯/

(C)V(C)(C)

/ˈkɔɪtːɑ ˈmɨnuːʎkɑ gə ˈfːuxːɑ ˈɨːnɨtːiɟɜː ɛrʲ ˈcuːludɑhs cu ˈmiːnɛʎː. ˈɛʊlːə gə ɲːɔɪ ˈmaʊtːopjaːsːkɑ ˈmɨʎc ɛrʲ, ɲːɔɪ ˈr̝ːiʊkːtɑ ˈduːrɨːhc ɛrʲ./

[Drydic]

Nitpick: if by [r͡ʒː] you mean some variation of Czech ř, then that is not the correct representation, [r̝] is. If you just mean a cluster [rʒː] though, well, by all means go ahead, just drop the tie bar.

[Haplogy]

Oh damn. Well, that was pretty much what I was going for. Thanks, Drydic.

[Pogostick Man]

/m n ɲ/ m n n*
/mː nː ɲː/ mm nn nn*
/p b t d c ɟ k g/ p b t d k* g* k g
/pː tː cː kː/ pp tt kk* kk
/f v s z x~h/ f v s z h
/fː sː xː/ ff ss hh
/r rʲ l ʎ/ r r* l l*
/rː r̝ː lː ʎː/ rr ř ll ll*
/j jː/ y yy

/i iː ɨ ɨː u uː/ i î u û w ŵ
/ɛ eː ə ɜː o oː/ e ê ǝ ǝ̂ o ô
/ɑ aː/ a â
/iʊ̯ ɛʊ̯ aʊ̯/ íw éw áw
/uɪ̯ ɔɪ̯ aɪ̯/ ẃi ói ái

There's something like Irish's caol le caol agus leathan le leathan rule going on here. Asterisked forms are leathan (palatalized/slender), their unasterisked counterpartes are caol (broad/plain). <e i> appear as palatalizers and <o a> as palatalizing-blockers, respectively; in cases such as these they are disambiguated from vowels in hiatus with the use of an acute accent over the nucleus if the vowel is short (if it's long there's a circumflex so it doesn't matter).

(C)V(C)(C)

/ˈkɔɪtːɑ ˈmɨnuːʎkɑ gə ˈfːuxːɑ ˈɨːnɨtːiɟɜː ɛrʲ ˈcuːludɑhs cu ˈmiːnɛʎː. ˈɛʊlːə gə ɲːɔɪ ˈmaʊtːopjaːsːkɑ ˈmɨʎc ɛrʲ, ɲːɔɪ ˈr͡ʒːiʊkːtɑ ˈduːrɨːhc ɛrʲ./
Kóitta munŵelka gə ffwhha ûnuttigǝ̂ ǝ́ir keŵlwdahs keẃ mîonaéll. Éwllǝ gǝ nneói máwttopyâsska mẃilk er, nneói říwkkta dŵrûihk er.

[Nortaneous]

/m n ɲ/ <m n ny>
/mː nː ɲː/ <mm nn nny>
/p b t d c ɟ k g/ <p b t d ky gy k g>
/pː tː cː kː/ <pp tt kky kk>
/f v s z x~h/ <f v s z h>
/fː sː xː/ <w ss hh>
/r rʲ l ʎ/ <r ry l ly>
/rː r̝ː lː ʎː/ <rr rry ll lly>
/j jː/ <y yy>

/i iː ɨ ɨː u uː/ <i ī u ū ou oū>
/ɛ eː ə ɜː o oː/ <ei ēi e ē o ō>
/ɑ aː/ <a ā>
/iʊ̯ ɛʊ̯ aʊ̯/ <iu eu au>
/uɪ̯ ɔɪ̯ aɪ̯/ <ui oi ai>

(C)V(C)(C)

/ˈkɔɪtːɑ ˈmɨnuːʎkɑ gə ˈfːuxːɑ ˈɨːnɨtːiɟɜː ɛrʲ ˈcuːludɑhs cu ˈmiːnɛʎː. ˈɛʊlːə gə ɲːɔɪ ˈmaʊtːopjaːsːkɑ ˈmɨʎc ɛrʲ, ɲːɔɪ ˈr͡ʒːiʊkːtɑ ˈduːrɨːhc ɛrʲ./

Koitta munoūlyka ge wouhha ūnuttigyē eiry kyūludahs kyu mīneilly. Eulle ge nnyoi mauttopyāsska mulky eiry, nnyoi rryiukkta dōurūhky eiry.

[sangi39]

Esmelthian's Latest Challenge:

/m n ɲ/ <m n ņ>
/mː nː ɲː/ <mm nn ņņ>
/p b t d c ɟ k g/ <p b t d ķ ģ k g>
/pː tː cː kː/ <pp tt ķķ kk>
/f v s z x~h/ <f v s z h>
/fː sː xː/ <ff ss hh>
/r rʲ l ʎ/ <r ŗ l ļ>
/rː r̝ː lː ʎː/ <rr ŗŗ ll ļļ>
/j jː/ <j jj>

/i iː ɨ ɨː u uː/ <i ī ie uo u ū>
/ɛ eː ə ɜː o oː/ <e ē ei~ea ou~oa o ō>
/ɑ aː/ <a ā>
/iʊ̯ ɛʊ̯ aʊ̯/ <iu eu au>
/uɪ̯ ɔɪ̯ aɪ̯/ <ui oi ai>

/ˈkɔɪtːɑ ˈmɨnuːʎkɑ gə ˈfːuxːɑ ˈɨːnɨtːiɟɜː ɛrʲ ˈcuːludɑhs cu ˈmiːnɛʎː. ˈɛʊlːə gə ɲːɔɪ ˈmaʊtːopjaːsːkɑ ˈmɨʎc ɛrʲ, ɲːɔɪ ˈr͡ʒːiʊkːtɑ ˈduːrɨːhc ɛrʲ./
koita mienūļka gei ffuhha uoniettiģei eŗ ķūludahs ķu mīneļļ. Eullei gei ņņoi mauttopjāsska mieļķ eŗ, ņņoi ŗŗiukkta dūruohķ eŗ.
koita mienūļka gea ffuhha uoniettiģea eŗ ķūludahs ķu mīneļļ. Eullea gea ņņoi mauttopjāsska mieļķ eŗ, ņņoi ŗŗiukkta dūruohķ eŗ.

[Nortaneous]

/m n ɲ/ <m n ny>
/mː nː ɲː/ <mh nh nyh>
/p b t d c ɟ k g/ <p b t d cz gh c g>
/pː tː cː kː/ <ph th chz ck>
/f v s z x~h/ <f v s z ch>
/fː sː xː/ <w sz xh>
/r rʲ l ʎ/ <r rz l ly>
/rː r̝ː lː ʎː/ <rh rzh lh lyh>
/j jː/ <y yh>

/i iː ɨ ɨː u uː/ <i ie ue ao u uo>
/ɛ eː ə ɜː o oː/ <e ei ea oa o ou>
/ɑ aː/ <a ae>
/iʊ̯ ɛʊ̯ aʊ̯/ <iu eu au>
/uɪ̯ ɔɪ̯ aɪ̯/ <ui oi ai>

/ˈkɔɪtːɑ ˈmɨnuːʎkɑ gə ˈfːuxːɑ ˈɨːnɨtːiɟɜː ɛrʲ ˈcuːludɑhs cu ˈmiːnɛʎː. ˈɛʊlːə gə ɲːɔɪ ˈmaʊtːopjaːsːkɑ ˈmɨʎc ɛrʲ, ɲːɔɪ ˈr͡ʒːiʊkːtɑ ˈduːrɨːhc ɛrʲ./
Coitha muenoulyka gea wuxha aonuethighoa erz czuoludachs czu mienelyh. Eulhea gea nyhoi mauthopyaeszca muelhcz erz, nyhoi rzhiuckta duoraochcz erz.

[sangi39]

Esmelthian's Latest Challenge (again):

Same representation of consonants (palatalisation marking lifted from Latvian)

/m n ɲ/ <m n ņ>
/mː nː ɲː/ <mm nn ņņ>
/p b t d c ɟ k g/ <p b t d ķ ģ k g>
/pː tː cː kː/ <pp tt ķķ kk>
/f v s z x~h/ <f v s z h>
/fː sː xː/ <ff ss hh>
/r rʲ l ʎ/ <r ŗ l ļ>
/rː r̝ː lː ʎː/ <rr ŗŗ ll ļļ>
/j jː/ <j jj>

Representation of vowel length inspired by Nortaneous' recent post

/i iː ɨ ɨː u uː/ <i ie ü üö u uo>
/ɛ eː ə ɜː o oː/ <e ei ö öü o ou>
/ɑ aː/ <a ä>
/iʊ̯ ɛʊ̯ aʊ̯/ <iu eu au>
/uɪ̯ ɔɪ̯ aɪ̯/ <ui oi ai>

/ˈkɔɪtːɑ ˈmɨnuːʎkɑ gə ˈfːuxːɑ ˈɨːnɨtːiɟɜː ɛrʲ ˈcuːludɑhs cu ˈmiːnɛʎː. ˈɛʊlːə gə ɲːɔɪ ˈmaʊtːopjaːsːkɑ ˈmɨʎc ɛrʲ, ɲːɔɪ ˈr͡ʒːiʊkːtɑ ˈduːrɨːhc ɛrʲ./

Koitta münuoļka gö ffuhha üönüttiģöü eŗ ķuoludahs ķu mieneļļ. Eullö gö ņņoi mauttopjässka müļķ eŗ, ņņoi ŗŗiukkta duorüöhķ eŗ.

While I'm happy with the representation of vowels and palatalisation, the initial geminates bug me. The medial and final ones don't though so I suppose for the sake of consistency I should leave them as they are...

[R.Rusanov]

English - Ьҥльш

/m n ŋ/ м н ҥ
/p b t d k g/ п б т д к г
/tʃ dʒ/ ч џ
/f v θ ð s z ʃ ʒ h/ ф в ѳ ѳ с з ш ж х
/ɹ j w l/ р й ў л

/i u/ и у
/ɪ ʊ/ ь ѻ
/o ə/ о ъ
/ɛ ɔ ʌ/ е а ъ
/æ ɑ/ ѣ а
/eɪ ɪu aɪ aʊ ɔɪ oʊ/ ей ю ай аў ой оў

/Ðɛɹ ɪz ə haʊs ɪn nɪu oɹlinz ðeɪ kɑl ðə ɹaɪzɪŋ sən/
Ѳер из ъ хаўс ьн ню орлинз ѳей кал ѳъ райзьҥ сън

[Haplogy]

Partially done using your suggestions.

Something I find very, very sexy:

/m n ɲ/ <m n ņ>
/mː nː ɲː/ <mh nh ņh>
/p b t d c ɟ k g/ <p b t d ț ḑ k g>
/pː tː cː kː/ <ph th țh kh>
/f v s z x~h/ <f v s z x>
/fː sː xː/ <fh sh xh>
/r rʲ l ʎ/ <r ŗ l ļ>
/rː r̝ː lː ʎː/ <rh ŗh lh ļh>
/j jː/ <j jh>

/i iː ɨ ɨː u uː/ <i í y ý u ú>
/ɛ eː ə ɜː o oː/ <e é ă ắ o ó>
/ɑ aː/ <a á>
/iʊ̯ ɛʊ̯ aʊ̯/ <iŭ eŭ aŭ>
/uɪ̯ ɔɪ̯ aɪ̯/ <uĭ oĭ aĭ>

Koĭtha mynúļka gă fhuxha ýnythiḑắ eŗ țúludaxs țu míneļh eŭlhă gă ņhoĭ maŭthopjáshka myļț eŗ, ņhoĭ ŗhiŭkhta dúrýxț eŗ.
/ˈkɔɪtːɑ ˈmɨnuːʎkɑ gə ˈfːuxːɑ ˈɨːnɨtːiɟɜː ɛrʲ ˈcuːludɑhs cu ˈmiːnɛʎː. ˈɛʊlːə gə ɲːɔɪ ˈmaʊtːopjaːsːkɑ ˈmɨʎc ɛrʲ, ɲːɔɪ ˈr̝ːiʊkːtɑ ˈduːrɨːhc ɛrʲ./

[Nortaneous]

rusanov, english has a /g/

/m n ŋ/ м н нг
/p b t d k g/ п б т д к г
/tʃ dʒ/ ч дж
/f v θ ð s z ʃ ʒ h/ ф в тъ дъ с з ш ж х
/ɹ j w l/ р й у л

/i u/ ий у
/ɪ ʊ/ и у
/o ə/ оу ы
/ɛ ɔ ʌ/ е о ы
/æ ɑ/ э а
/eɪ ju aɪ aʊ ɔɪ/ ей ю ай ау ой

[R.Rusanov]

rusanov, english has a /g/

... I'm aware of that?

Your proposal would transcribe "the" as "дьы" ўьч айм шър ю кѣн си ьз рьдькюлъс

[Drydic]

rusanov, english has a /g/

... I'm aware of that?

Your proposal would transcribe "the" as "дьы" ўьч айм шър ю кѣн си ьз рьдькюлъс

And yours doesn't distinguish /θ ð/ at all, when they are distinguished in the language (teeth - teethe), while carefully distinguishing /s z/ which is close to if not equally as marginally phonemic. If you're just doing alphabet substitution to Cyrillic, ok sure, but that's kinda pointless. Especially since this is the Romanization challenge thread.

[R.Rusanov]

No point cluttering up C&CQ. (Hellenizations, Oriyizations etc. also go here.)

I assume you read the first page a while back and have forgotten it

There's no reason not to use ҫ and ҙ for /θ ð/, I like thita but it has no logical voiced counterpart... ѻ /ʊ/ could also be replaced with ө


Ҙъ Фърст Ейџ бигѣн ўьҫ ҙъ Ъўейкеньҥ ъв ҙъ елвз ѣнд ендед ўьҫ ҙъ файнъл оўвърҫроў ъв Моргаҫ бай ҙъ къмбайнд армис ъв Вѣльнор ѣнд Белериѣнд...

[Drydic]

No point cluttering up C&CQ. (Hellenizations, Oriyizations etc. also go here.)

I assume you read the first page a while back and have forgotten it

Yeah, how much do you remember that you read a year ago? I'll wait.

[R.Rusanov]

I'm not aiming for a confrontation, mate, I'm just reminding you, friendly-like. No need to get upset