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Grunnen wrote:There's nothing but a developing phonology yet. I'm still working on the diachronics, so things will probably change. If you got suggestions for directions, I'm interested.
This reminds me a bit of the inventory of a naming lang in my conworld:

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p  t  ts      k   ʔ         p  t  z    k  ʔ
mb nd ndz     ŋg            mb nd nz   nk
ʰp ʰt ʰts     ʰk            hp ht hz   hk
m  n      ŋ                 m  n       ng
v  s      ʃ       h         v  s    c     h
mv        ntʃ               mv      nc
ʰv ʰs     ʰʃ                hv hs   hc
   l      j   (w)              l    y  w
   ɾ  r                        r  rr

i y u   i wi u
e ø o   e we o
  a       a
/j/ doesn't appear before /i e 2 y/; 2 y are uncommon and could be sequences consisting of /w/ and /e i/ -- /w/ otherwise only appears before /a/, and /wa/ is sometimes realized [ɔ]
diphthongs: ai au eu (eu varies with 2) -- a > ai before palatals
r rr don't contrast initially/finally -- more accurately, r can't appear there, and rr is written r there
two tone system -- modal consonants and fricatives get more commonly realized as voiced with low tone

Modal stops can be realized as either voiceless or voiced. Voiced is more common in initial position, to distinguish from the preaspirated stops.

Syllable structure is (C(G))V, with word-final C permitted. No two nonmodal consonants of the same type can appear in sequential syllables. (so mba-nda -> mbata) CGV syllables are uncommon, and /w/ appears in that position more than /j/ does. Medial CC clusters are uncommon and appear mostly in personal names.

And as for the names it generates: (first three Kett, second two Arve)
mbwa-ncu-ác -> mbwacuác -> mbɔʑɔc -> Ombéys [m̩ˈbɵɥs] (Ins.) / Pošóc [pòʃóts] (Cont.)
hzér-ác -> Cerráis [tsɪˈʰɾ̥ɑjs] (Ins.) / Cérráš [tsérːáʃ] (Cont.)
nkar-twén -> Ongkartéy [ŋ̩gɑʂˈʈɵɥ] (Ins.) / Kartő [kàɾtǿ] (Cont.)
ránk-twén -> Rangtön [raŋgtʰøn] -> [rʏʀˈtʰʊi̯n]
ketʔen-twén -> Ked-Entön [kʰetʔentʰøn] -> [ˌkʰḛtʼɪˈr̥ʊi̯n] ~ [ˌkʰʌ̰ḭ̯ˈr̥ʊi̯n]
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Re: Post your conlang's phonology

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Theta wrote:
Darkgamma wrote:
Chagen wrote:Because the affricate was in there way back when this lang was much different. I was too lazy to take it out. Also, the name of the lang would have to be changed to do that, given that the affricate shows up in the name: Gskcar.
That doesn't answer my question.
And how do you expect a single affricate of /tʃ/ to arise? Why do you lack /ʃ/ when wishing for /tʃ/ while having such an unrealistically symmetric inventory?
Spanish.
Spanish had /ʃ/ at least 350 years ago.
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And so did Gskcar. I didn't feel the need to post the proto-lang's phonology as well.
Nūdhrēmnāva naraśva, dṛk śraṣrāsit nūdhrēmanīṣṣ iźdatīyyīm woḥīm madhēyyaṣṣi.
satisfaction-DEF.SG-LOC live.PERFECTIVE-1P.INCL but work-DEF.SG-PRIV satisfaction-DEF.PL.NOM weakeness-DEF.PL-DAT only lead-FUT-3P

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Chagen wrote:And so did Gskcar. I didn't feel the need to post the proto-lang's phonology as well.
I could do this:

/p p' q q'/
/q͡p q͡p' k͡p/
/ɯ ɯ̊/

...and would you nod along (also, Gskcar doubtfully had it in the past. You're famous for improvising and pulling shit out of your ass)
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shut the fuck up darkgamma
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Nortaneous wrote:shut the fuck up darkgamma
Whyever should I?

You haven't met Chagen before, trust me he's denser than anybody you'll ever meet, and a racistic bastard who goes around and flames tonal languages and acts all smug.
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You haven't met Chagen before, trust me he's denser than anybody you'll ever meet, and a racistic bastard who goes around and flames tonal languages and acts all smug.
Lol wut.

I'm working on a tonal language called Sunago right now.
Nūdhrēmnāva naraśva, dṛk śraṣrāsit nūdhrēmanīṣṣ iźdatīyyīm woḥīm madhēyyaṣṣi.
satisfaction-DEF.SG-LOC live.PERFECTIVE-1P.INCL but work-DEF.SG-PRIV satisfaction-DEF.PL.NOM weakeness-DEF.PL-DAT only lead-FUT-3P

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Chagen wrote:
You haven't met Chagen before, trust me he's denser than anybody you'll ever meet, and a racistic bastard who goes around and flames tonal languages and acts all smug.
Lol wut.

I'm working on a tonal language called Sunago right now.
First impressions are hard to mend.
Didn't you call out on Mekoshan (calling it something quite rude) for having even stød? And once called tonal languages inferior to European languages and that (thank God!) there are no tones in Europe?
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Yeah, like two months ago I did.

People change in two months, man
Nūdhrēmnāva naraśva, dṛk śraṣrāsit nūdhrēmanīṣṣ iźdatīyyīm woḥīm madhēyyaṣṣi.
satisfaction-DEF.SG-LOC live.PERFECTIVE-1P.INCL but work-DEF.SG-PRIV satisfaction-DEF.PL.NOM weakeness-DEF.PL-DAT only lead-FUT-3P

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Chagen wrote:Yeah, like two months ago I did.

People change in two months, man
No they don't.
I didn't change, nobody on this board did change, they're all humans and Drydic Guy, and you aren't Drydic Guy, therefore you can't change in two months.

EDIT: Unless you went through some severe trauma which rocked your upper mental functions and changed your personality sufficiently. That wouldn't change your deeper mental functions, which are responsible for your need to split everything into neat groups (tone/nontone - non-European/European) which was vital for prehistoric men because it lead to the formation of tribes.
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break it up ladies
Siöö jandeng raiglin zåbei tandiüłåd;
nää džunnfin kukuch vklaivei sivei tåd.
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Darkgamma wrote:You haven't met Chagen before, trust me he's denser than anybody you'll ever meet, and [...] acts all smug.
Perfect description of the member known round here as "Darkgamma" if you ask me.

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Guitarplayer wrote:
Darkgamma wrote:You haven't met Chagen before, trust me he's denser than anybody you'll ever meet, and [...] acts all smug.
Perfect description of the member known round here as "Darkgamma" if you ask me.
I never called out on anybody for making a conlang shitty by adding tone, or insisted that "niggers" can't be "wapanese", or claimed that Germanic languages beat other mud speeches, did I not?
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Darkgamma wrote:
Guitarplayer wrote:
Darkgamma wrote:You haven't met Chagen before, trust me he's denser than anybody you'll ever meet, and [...] acts all smug.
Perfect description of the member known round here as "Darkgamma" if you ask me.
I never called out on anybody for making a conlang shitty by adding tone, or insisted that "niggers" can't be "wapanese", or claimed that Germanic languages beat other mud speeches, did I not?
No, but as far as we know, he hasn't either. We gave you a chance (which you screwed up), so we'll give him a chance too.

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finlay wrote:but as far as we know, he hasn't either.
And now you know.

Chinese people are always angry.

Edit: And now you know more
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Lol wow, you still buttmad about the "weeaboo" debacle?
Nūdhrēmnāva naraśva, dṛk śraṣrāsit nūdhrēmanīṣṣ iźdatīyyīm woḥīm madhēyyaṣṣi.
satisfaction-DEF.SG-LOC live.PERFECTIVE-1P.INCL but work-DEF.SG-PRIV satisfaction-DEF.PL.NOM weakeness-DEF.PL-DAT only lead-FUT-3P

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I suggest you both get a room so that you can release the obvious sexual tension that exists between you two. Don't forget the baby oil!!

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You guys know stod refers to the glottal stop right
It's not some magical crazy phenomenon

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isn't it like pitch accent but with creaky voice
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Allright, Chagen. After reading "A Clash of Kings" last night in one go, I've decided to give you a chance.
Don't mess it up.
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Nortaneous wrote:isn't it like pitch accent but with creaky voice
Pitch accent isn't a part of it, but I'm pretty sure that where Swedish and Norwegian have the pitch accent, Danish has words with this thing. And creaky voice is often a realization of it, but that's not really the underlying form I guess.

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Theta wrote:
Nortaneous wrote:isn't it like pitch accent but with creaky voice
Pitch accent isn't a part of it, but I'm pretty sure that where Swedish and Norwegian have the pitch accent, Danish has words with this thing. And creaky voice is often a realization of it, but that's not really the underlying form I guess.
I think it is vowel glottalisation.
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The magic oracle called Wikipedia says this:

Stød is a suprasegmental unit of Danish phonology, which in its most common form is a kind of creaky voice (laryngealization), but may also be realized as a glottal stop, above all in emphatic pronunciation. Some dialects of Southern Danish realize stød in a way which is more similar to the tonal word accents of Norwegian and Swedish, and in much of Zealand it is regularly realized as something reminiscent of a glottal stop. A probably unrelated glottal stop with quite different distribution rules, occurring in Western Jutland, is known as the 'vestjysk stød' ("West Jutland stød").

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I have 2 versions currently, just because I can't prevent myself from toying around with the phonology all the time. Call it language development if you want; eventually I believe I'm gonna settle for a mix of these two.
1.
stop: / k[k] kö[k_w] g[g~ɣ] kz[k_>] t[t] tz[t_>] q[q] '[ʔ] tx[cupped] /
Fricative: / h[h] f[f] v[ʋ, v\] vz[_> /v/ non approximant] s[s~z] x[x] xw[x_w] xw'[x_wʔ] xh[x_h] xwh[x_w_h] /
approximant / j[j] w[w̜ (compressed /w/)] wh[w_h /w/ non compressed] /
affricate / dj[dZ] c[ts] /
Lateral: / l[l] /
flap: / r [r\]

e i o u | ee ii oo uu | ie ei
2
Stop: / t[t'] d[d] k[k] kö[k_w] g[g] q[q] tx[cupped] /
Fricative: / h[h] '[ʔ] f[f] v[ʋ, v\] ŧ or tt[ð] s[s] z[z] sh[S] ch[tS] gh[ɣ] lh[ɬ] tlh[t͡ɬ, ƛ] /
approximant / j[j] w[w̜ (compressed /w/)] /
affricate / dj[dZ] /
Lateral: / l[l] ll[ʎ] /
flap: / r [r\]

e i o u | ee ii oo uu | ie ei
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I might have posted this on the CBB but I'm pretty sure I haven't posted it here:
/m n̻ n̺ ɫ/ - m n ń l
/p t̻ t̺ k̟ k̠/ - p t d g k
/s̻ s̺ h/ - s ś h

/a e i o u/ + length; represented by a macron.
/ə ɵ/ - ã õ

Syllable structure is (C)V(V)(n). /n̻/ may only end syllables word-finally. Vowel diphthongs include any combination of two of the following /a e i o u/ where only one may be long, or /ə/ + any of /e i o u/, or /ɵ/ + any of /a e i u/. Diphthongs are always falling, except in the case of syllables that end in /n/, where they are always rising.

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