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Re: Romanization challenge thread

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Proto-Oenj

/m ɱ n̪ n ŋ ɴ/ <m f d n g q>
/p t k/ <p t k>
/l j w/ <l j v>

/i y u e ø ɘ ɵ o ø̞ ɵ̞ ɤ̞ ɛ œ ɞ ɔ a ɑ/
<i u w e eu y eo o yu yo ao ae oe yw aw a aa>

/a1 a2 a3 a4 a5/
<ā à ǎ á â> because that's what you get for being vague and indecisive

/amt5 nɤl2 ø̞ ol4 tul1 tu ɤn2
ji5 ŋɞn ji5 ɱy4 an ji5 ɔ ɱy4 ji5 ɴa aŋkʼ ja o4l ji5 œn̪2
nu1 amt5 kʼo2 tɑ1 oŋ3 ɔkʼ ʔo1 te2 nu1 ɴa3 pe1 oŋkʼ3 kʼo2 tɑ1 oŋ3
ʔɑ4 pe1 ʔɑ4 amt5 ʔɑ4 kʼo2 ʔɑ4 nœ ɔ ɱy4 al ta5 ʔɑ4 ta ŋɞn̪ ɱy4 ankʼ e2 ʔɑ4 œn̪2 ʔɑ4 ŋɞkʼ/


âmt nàol yu ól tw̄l tw àon
jî gywn jî fú an jî aw fú jî qa agkʼ ja ól jî òed
nū âmt kʼò tāa ǒg awkʼ ʻō tè nw̄ qǎ pē ǒgkʼ kʼò tāa ǒg
ʻáa pē ʻáa âmt ʻáa kʼò ʻáa noe aw fú al tâ ʻáa ta gywd fú ankʼ è ʻáa òed ʻáa gywkʼ
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/m n/ <m n>
/p t ts ʧ k ʔ/ <p t c č k 0>
/b d dz ʤ g/ <b d j ǰ g>
/f θ s ɬ* ʃ* x h/ <f th s lh š x h>
/v ð z ɮ* ʒ*/ <v dh z ll ž>
/w l ɹ j/ <w l r y>

/i iː u uː/ <i ī u ū>
/ɪ ɪː ʊ ʊː ʊːː/ <ei ēi ou ōu ôu>
/e eː o oː/ <é ê o ō>
/ɛ ɛː/ <e ē>
/a aː aːː/ <a ā â>

/ai aːi ju juː/ <ai āi ü ǖ>

*Rare, loanwords only

/kɹɪt gam wanʤʧɛːɮaʔaʃuʔi ʤɛpːa ʣɪʤamasːuː jʊma/
Kreit gam wanǰčēllaašui ǰeppa jeiǰamassū youma.

/ʔe kenxaːinkaɹm mtm/
É kénxāinkarm mtm.

/ʔɛbːa mtm xaːinam maiʔan/
Ebba mtm xāinan maiqan.

/ʤɛbːa ʣɪʦaːkɛt laʧa ðatlʊːːɹnjujʧam/
J̌ebba jeicāket lača dhatlôurnüyčam.

/sujwɛ xːalɛzʊlsno/
Suywe xxalezoulsno.
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Sir Gwalchafad wrote:/a1 a2 a3 a4 a5/
<ā à ǎ á â> because that's what you get for being vague and indecisive
Well I could have posted the tones here, but I didn't know if anyone wanted the actual quality given. In any case, I'm sorry for the trouble. :oops:
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Proto-Oenj

/amt5 nɤl2 ø̞ ol4 tul1 tu ɤn2. ji5 ŋɞn ji5 ɱy4 an ji5 ɔ ɱy4 ji5 ɴa aŋkʼ ja o4l ji5 œn̪2. nu1 amt5 kʼo2 tɑ1 oŋ3 ɔkʼ ʔo1 te2 nu1 ɴa3 pe1 oŋkʼ3 kʼo2 tɑ1 oŋ3. ʔɑ4 pe1 ʔɑ4 amt5 ʔɑ4 kʼo2 ʔɑ4 nœ ɔ ɱy4 al ta5 ʔɑ4 ta ŋɞn̪ ɱy4 ankʼ e2 ʔɑ4 œn̪2 ʔɑ4 ŋɞkʼ/
Ämt5 dal2 ő ól4 túl1 tú ad2. Yí5 gyn yí5 vű4 äd yí5 o vű4 yí5 qä ägk ya ól4 yí5 ön2. Dú1 ämt5 gkó2 tá1 óg3 ok ó1 té2 dú1 qä3 pé1 ógk3 gkó2 tá1 óg3. Á4 pé1 á4 ämt5 á4 gkó2 á4 dö o vű4 äl tä5 á4 tä gyn vű4 ägk é2 á4 ön2 á4 gyk.


Zukish (again)

/m n/ <m n>
/p t ts ʧ k ʔ/ <p t c ć k q>
/b d dz ʤ g/ <p d cz ćz g>
/f θ s ɬ* ʃ* x h/ <f ts s ls ś ks h>
/v ð z ɮ* ʒ*/ <fz dz z lz ź>
/w l ɹ j/ <v l r y>

/i iː u uː/ <í íí ú úú>
/ɪ ɪː ʊ ʊː ʊːː/ <i ii u uu>
/e eː o oː/ <e ee o oo>
/ɛ ɛː/ <è èè>
/a aː aːː/ <a aa aaa>

/ai aːi ju juː/ <ai aai iu iuu

Syllable structure: roughly C(S)V(S)(C) with S being one of /m n w l ɹ j/. V can also be one of /m n w l ɹ j/, when it is so no initial consonant is needed.

/kɹɪt gam wanʤʧɛːɮaʔaʃuʔi ʤɛpːa ʣɪʤamasːuː jʊma/
Krit gam vanćz-ćèèlzaqaśúqi ćzèppa czićzamassúú yuma.

/ʔe kenxaːinkaɹm mtm/
Qe kenksaainkarm mtm.

/ʔɛbːa mtm xaːinam maiʔan/
Qèbba mtm ksaainam maiqan.

/ʤɛbːa ʣɪʦaːkɛt laʧa ðatlʊːːɹnjujʧam/
Ćzèbba czicaakèt laća tsatluuurniuyćam.

/sujwɛ xːalɛzʊlsno/
Súyve kksalèzul-sno

/gamaː xaːinvjujvʊːmoʔɛ gɛbːa gamaːː kɛːc*ɛmmːrisajuʔi gɛpːa gama/
Gamaa ksaainfziuyfzuumoqè gèbba gamaaa kèèć*èmmmrísayuqi gèppa gama.

/ʤɛː maːʧɛmtaɬundɛɹɛlanw/
Ćzèè maaćèmtalsúndèrèlanv.

/ʔe xaːinuxjugvʊːm ʔɛpːa ʒawne/
Qe ksaainúksyúgfzuum qèppa źavne.

/ʤavuk ʤama xaːingamahɹi ʣɪdɛɹɛ fakbɛjθʊ/
Ćzafzúk ćzama ksaaingamahrí czidèrè fakbèytsu.
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Here's a thread on Oscan.

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Proto-Oenj 

(Edited to take into account the description's for tone, using Sir Gwalchafad's representation, again. This effectively just switched the macron for the caron)

/m ɱ n̪ n ŋ ɴ/ <m b n d g q>
/p t k/ <p t k>
/l j w/ <l j v>

/i y u/ <i wi~ui u>
/e ø o/ <e we~ue o>
/ɘ ɵ/ <yi yu>
/ø̞ ɵ̞ ɤ̞/ <ye yer~er yo>
/ɛ œ ɔ/ <ae wa~ua wo~uo>
/ɞ/ <ya>
/a ɑ/ <a ao>

1 : a˩ <ǎ>
2 : a˨ <à>
3 : a˧ <ā>
4 : a˦ <á>
5 : a˥ <â>

/amt5 nɤl2 ø̞ ol4 tul1 tu ɤn2
ji5 ŋɞn ji5 ɱy4 an ji5 ɔ ɱy4 ji5 ɴa aŋkʼ ja o4l ji5 œn̪2
nu1 amt5 kʼo2 tɑ1 oŋ3 ɔkʼ ʔo1 te2 nu1 ɴa3 pe1 oŋkʼ3 kʼo2 tɑ1 oŋ3
ʔɑ4 pe1 ʔɑ4 amt5 ʔɑ4 kʼo2 ʔɑ4 nœ ɔ ɱy4 al ta5 ʔɑ4 ta ŋɞn̪ ɱy4 ankʼ e2 ʔɑ4 œn̪2 ʔɑ4 ŋɞkʼ/

Âmt dyòl ye ól tǔl tu yòd
jî gyad jî buí ad jî wo buí jî qa agk ja ól jî wàn
dǔ âmt kò tâo ōg wok 'ô tè dǔ qǎ pě ōgk kò tāo ōg
áo pě áo âmt áo kò áo dua wo buí al tâ áo ta gyan buí adk è áo wàn áo gyak
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Proto-Oenj
/m ɱ n̪ n ŋ ɴ/
<m f n z g q>

/p~pʼ t~tʼ kʼ ʔ/
<p t k '>

/l j w/
<l j w>

/i y u/
<i y u>

/e ø ɘ ɵ o/
<e ő(y) eo őo ó(o)>

/ø̞ ɵ̞ ɤ/
<ö(y) öo o>

/ɛ œ ɞ ɔ/
<è(e) ȍ(y) ȍo ò(o)>

/a ɑ/
<á(a) a>

Tones are marked with suitable diacritics on the second vowel of digraphs. The vowels in parenthesis are not used if the word has no phonemic tone.

/amt5 nɤl2 ø̞ ol4 tul1 tu ɤn2/
Áamt zol ö óol tul tu oz.

/ji5 ŋɞn ji5 ɱy4 an ji5 ɔ ɱy4 ji5 ɴa aŋkʼ ja o4l ji5 œn̪2/
Ji gȍoz ji fy áz ji ò fy ji qá ágk já ól ji ȍyn.

/nu1 amt5 kʼo2 tɑ1 oŋ3 ɔkʼ ʔo1 te2 nu1 ɴa3 pe1 oŋkʼ3 kʼo2 tɑ1 oŋ3/
Zu áamt kóo ta óog òk 'ol te zu qa pe óogk kóo ta óog.

/ʔɑ4 pe1 ʔɑ4 amt5 ʔɑ4 kʼo2 ʔɑ4 nœ ɔ ɱy4 al ta5 ʔɑ4 ta ŋɞn̪ ɱy4 ankʼ e2 ʔɑ4 œn̪2 ʔɑ4 ŋɞkʼ/
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Znex wrote:
Sir Gwalchafad wrote:/a1 a2 a3 a4 a5/
<ā à ǎ á â> because that's what you get for being vague and indecisive
Well I could have posted the tones here, but I didn't know if anyone wanted the actual quality given. In any case, I'm sorry for the trouble. :oops:
Well, we need to know the value in order to design something that makes sense.
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Qwynegold wrote:
Znex wrote:
Sir Gwalchafad wrote:/a1 a2 a3 a4 a5/
<ā à ǎ á â> because that's what you get for being vague and indecisive
Well I could have posted the tones here, but I didn't know if anyone wanted the actual quality given. In any case, I'm sorry for the trouble. :oops:
Well, we need to know the value in order to design something that makes sense.
That makes sense. I'll append them to the first post again.

They're fairly simple anyway: they are all simple musical notes.
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Made some changes:
Qwynegold wrote:Proto-Oenj
/m ɱ n̪ n ŋ ɴ/
<m f n z g q>

/p~pʼ t~tʼ kʼ ʔ/
<p t k '>

/l j w/
<l j w>

/i y u/
<i y u>

/e ø ɘ ɵ o/
<e ő(y) eo őo ó(o)>

/ø̞ ɵ̞ ɤ/
<ö(y) öo o>

/ɛ œ ɞ ɔ/
<è(e) ȍ(y) ȍo ò(o)>

/a ɑ/
<á(a) a>

/˩ ˨ ˧ ˦ ˥/
<ǒ ŏ ō ȏ ô> Hmm, this is not a very good solution. :/

Tones are marked with suitable diacritics on the second vowel of digraphs. The vowels in parenthesis are not used if the word has no phonemic tone.

/amt5 nɤl2 ø̞ ol4 tul1 tu ɤn2/
Áâmt zŏl ö óȏl tǔl tu ŏz.

/ji5 ŋɞn ji5 ɱy4 an ji5 ɔ ɱy4 ji5 ɴa aŋkʼ ja o4l ji5 œn̪2/
Jî gȍoz jî fy̑ áz jî ò fy̑ jî qá ágk já óȏl jî ȍy̆n.

/nu1 amt5 kʼo2 tɑ1 oŋ3 ɔkʼ ʔo1 te2 nu1 ɴa3 pe1 oŋkʼ3 kʼo2 tɑ1 oŋ3/
Zǔ áâmt kóŏ tǎ óōg òk 'ǒl tĕ zǔ qā pě óōgk kóŏ tǎ óōg.

/ʔɑ4 pe1 ʔɑ4 amt5 ʔɑ4 kʼo2 ʔɑ4 nœ ɔ ɱy4 al ta5 ʔɑ4 ta ŋɞn̪ ɱy4 ankʼ e2 ʔɑ4 œn̪2 ʔɑ4 ŋɞkʼ/
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You know usually tones are given simply by their contours. In your case, this would simply be

1 : v˩
2 : v˨
3 : v˧
4 : v˦
5 : v˥

EDIT: See also Qwynegold's post.
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/m ɱ n̪ n ŋ ɴ/ <m f d n g r>
/p t k ʔ/ <p t k c>
/l j w/ <l y v>

/i y u/ <i ui u>
/e ø o/ <ei uei ou>
/ɘ ɵ/ <ai au>
/ø̞ ɵ̞ ɤ̞/ <ueih auh ah>
/ɛ œ ɔ/ <e ue o>
/ɞ/ <io>
/a ɑ/ <a ua>

1 : a˩ <ǎ>
2 : a˨ <à>
3 : a˧ <ā>
4 : a˦ <á>
5 : a˥ <â>

/amt5 nɤl2 ø̞ ol4 tul1 tu ɤn2
ji5 ŋɞn ji5 ɱy4 an ji5 ɔ ɱy4 ji5 ɴa aŋkʼ ja o4l ji5 œn̪2
nu1 amt5 kʼo2 tɑ1 oŋ3 ɔkʼ ʔo1 te2 nu1 ɴa3 pe1 oŋkʼ3 kʼo2 tɑ1 oŋ3
ʔɑ4 pe1 ʔɑ4 amt5 ʔɑ4 kʼo2 ʔɑ4 nœ ɔ ɱy4 al ta5 ʔɑ4 ta ŋɞn̪ ɱy4 ankʼ e2 ʔɑ4 œn̪2 ʔɑ4 ŋɞkʼ/

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dGudzong Tibetan

/pʰ p b tʰ t d ʈʰ ʈ ɖ c ɟ kʰ k g ʔ/
/tsʰ ts dz tɕʰ tɕ dʑ/
/ɸ β sʰ s z ʂʰ ʂ ʐ ɕʰ ɕ ʑ xʰ x ɣ h ɦ/
/m̥ m n̥ n ȵ̊ ȵ ŋ̊ ŋ/
/l̥ l r j w/
/ʰp ʰt ʰʈ ʰc ʰk ʰts ʰtɕ/
/ʰsʰ ʰs ʰɕʰ ʰɕ ʰx ʰl̥/
/ʱb ʱd ʱɖ ʱɟ ʱg ʱdz ʱdʑ/
/ʱz ʱʐ ʱʑ/
/ʱm ʱn ʱȵ ʱŋ ʱl ʱr ʱj/
/ᵐb ⁿd ⁿɖ ⁿg ⁿdz ⁿdʑ ⁿɣ/
/ᵐpʰ ⁿtʰ ⁿʈʰ ⁿkʰ ⁿtsʰ ⁿtɕʰ ⁿxʰ ⁿsʰ ⁿɕʰ ⁿl̥/
/ᵐg ᵐtsʰ/
/ᵖt ᵖʈ ᵖʈʰ ᵖk ᵖts ᵖtsʰ ᵖtɕ/
/ᶲt ᶲʈ ᶲtɕ ᶲs ᶲl̥/
/ʷɖ ʷg ʷdʑ ʷʐ ʷn ʷl/
/ˀm ˀn ˀj/
/a ɑ ɛ ɔ e ɵ ə o i ʉ ɯ u/
All vowels but /ɵ ʉ/ can occur nasalized. Length is contrastive.

Syllable structure: C{j w}V{j w}(ʔ)

Four tones, operating on word level: ¯: high level [55/44] ´: rising [24/35] ^: rising-falling [132] `: falling [53/42]

¯ɕʰi kә ˆpʰә ro ´lәwʔ ʰpɯ `ᶲsɯ ⁿkʰor ´me ʑɑ̃ tɕu ɦo `ᵖtsʰә ʱdʑәʔ ´ʱdʑiː bo ¯ʰtɕiː ˆtɕʰә ɣi ´ɖuː ⁿɕʰɑ̃ ´miː sʰiː ¯ⁿtsʰɯwʔ ʱdʑәʔ ¯ʰʈeː lʉ ɦөʔ ¯ʰsʰә

(The sample doesn't mean anything; it's just a list of words. Tone notation is as it was in the PDF since I can't be bothered to edit it.)
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/pʰ p b tʰ t d ʈʰ ʈ ɖ c ɟ kʰ k g ʔ/ <ph p b th t d trh tr dr ky gy kh k g q- / -k>
/tsʰ ts dz tɕʰ tɕ dʑ/ <tsh ts dz tch tc dj>
/ɸ β sʰ s z ʂʰ ʂ ʐ ɕʰ ɕ ʑ xʰ x ɣ h ɦ/ <f v sh s z srh sr zr ch c j xh x gh h hh>
/m̥ m n̥ n ȵ̊ ȵ ŋ̊ ŋ/ <mh m nh n ñh ñ ngh ng>
/l̥ l r j w/ <lh l r y w>
/ʰp ʰt ʰʈ ʰc ʰk ʰts ʰtɕ/ <hp...>
/ʰsʰ ʰs ʰɕʰ ʰɕ ʰx ʰl̥/ <hsh...>
/ʱb ʱd ʱɖ ʱɟ ʱg ʱdz ʱdʑ/ <hb...>
/ʱz ʱʐ ʱʑ/ <hz...>
/ʱm ʱn ʱȵ ʱŋ ʱl ʱr ʱj/ <hm...>
/ᵐb ⁿd ⁿɖ ⁿg ⁿdz ⁿdʑ ⁿɣ/ <mb nd...>
/ᵐpʰ ⁿtʰ ⁿʈʰ ⁿkʰ ⁿtsʰ ⁿtɕʰ ⁿxʰ ⁿsʰ ⁿɕʰ ⁿl̥/ <mph nth...>
/ᵐg ᵐtsʰ/ <mg mtsh>
/ᵖt ᵖʈ ᵖʈʰ ᵖk ᵖts ᵖtsʰ ᵖtɕ/ <pt...>
/ᶲt ᶲʈ ᶲtɕ ᶲs ᶲl̥/ <ft...>
/ʷɖ ʷg ʷdʑ ʷʐ ʷn ʷl/ <wdr...>
/ˀm ˀn ˀj/ <qm...>
/a ɑ ɛ ɔ e ɵ ə o i ʉ ɯ u/ <aa a ea oa ee oe e o i ue uu u>
All vowels but /ɵ ʉ/ can occur nasalized. <n> Length is contrastive. <h>

Syllable structure: C{j w}V{j w}(ʔ)

Four tones, operating on word level: ¯: high level [55/44] ´: rising [24/35] ^: rising-falling [132] `: falling [53/42]
<ā á â à>

¯ɕʰi kә ˆpʰә ro ´lәwʔ ʰpɯ `ᶲsɯ ⁿkʰor ´me ʑɑ̃ tɕu ɦo `ᵖtsʰә ʱdʑәʔ ´ʱdʑiː bo ¯ʰtɕiː ˆtɕʰә ɣi ´ɖuː ⁿɕʰɑ̃ ´miː sʰiː ¯ⁿtsʰɯwʔ ʱdʑәʔ ¯ʰʈeː lʉ ɦөʔ ¯ʰsʰә

Chī ke phê ro léwk hpuu fsùù nkhor méé jan tcu hho ptshè hdjek hdjíh bo htcīī tchê ghi drúú nchan míh shih ntshūūwk hdjek htrēh lue hhoek hshē.
Siöö jandeng raiglin zåbei tandiüłåd;
nää džunnfin kukuch vklaivei sivei tåd.
Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei.

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Unnamed Proto-Language:

/p t k q ʔ/
/ɸ θ x χ/
/r j ɰ h/
/m n ŋ/

/e o/
/a ɐ ɒ/

Syllable structure:
(C(A))V((r)C) where C=consonant, A=approximant, V=vowel
- A syllable may only have one cluster.

Allophony:
- /e o/ becomes [ɛ ɔ] in closed syllables.
- Velar and uvular obstruents palatalise next to a front vowel and labialise next to a back vowel (because they are rounded).
-- /r ɰ/ labialise next to a back vowel.
- Labial and dental obstruents velarise next to a back vowel.

Sample text (list of random polysyllables):
[ɸɐ 'khɔtˠ maχʲ'ʔɒrʷn 'etwo pˠɒm'xʷo 'thɛkʷʲɔqʷ θhe'tɛŋ]

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Unnamed Proto-Language:

/p t k q ʔ/ <p t k q '>
/ɸ θ x χ/ <f s x y>
/r j ɰ h/ <r j w h>
/m n ŋ/ <m n g>

/e o/ <i u>
/a ɐ ɒ/ <a e o>

[ɸɐ 'khɔtˠ maχʲ'ʔɒrʷn 'etwo pˠɒm'xʷo 'thɛkʷʲɔqʷ θhe'tɛŋ]

Fe khut may'orn itwu pomxu thikuq shitig
You can tell the same lie a thousand times,
But it never gets any more true,
So close your eyes once more and once more believe
That they all still believe in you.
Just one time.

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Unnamed Proto-Language

/p t k q ʔ/ p t k q c
/ɸ θ x χ/ f s x ȷ
/r j ɰ h/ r y v h
/m n ŋ/ m n g

/e o/ ı u
/a ɐ ɒ/ e a o

Fa khut maȷcorn ıtvu pomxu thıkuq shıtıg.
[ɸɐ 'khɔtˠ maχʲ'ʔɒrʷn 'etwo pˠɒm'xʷo 'thɛkʷʲɔqʷ θhe'tɛŋ]

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/p t k q ʔ/ <p t k q c>
/ɸ θ x χ/ <f z x g>
/r j ɰ h/ <r y w h>
/m n ŋ/ <m n ñ>

/e o/ <e u>
/a ɐ ɒ/ <ä a o>

Syllable structure:
(C(A))V((r)C) where C=consonant, A=approximant, V=vowel
- A syllable may only have one cluster.

Allophony:
- /e o/ becomes [ɛ ɔ] in closed syllables.
- Velar and uvular obstruents palatalise next to a front vowel and labialise next to a back vowel (because they are rounded).
-- /r ɰ/ labialise next to a back vowel.
- Labial and dental obstruents velarise next to a back vowel.

Sample text (list of random polysyllables):
[ɸɐ 'khɔtˠ maχʲ'ʔɒrʷn 'etwo pˠɒm'xʷo 'thɛkʷʲɔqʷ θhe'tɛŋ][/quote]
Fa khut magcorn etwu pomxu thekuq zheteñ.
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You know who I hate? Fucking dyslexics.
dGudzong Tibetan
/pʰ p b tʰ t d ʈʰ ʈ ɖ c ɟ kʰ k g ʔ/<pp p b tt t dt td d dd cc c j kk k g q>
/tsʰ ts dz tɕʰ tɕ dʑ/<ts tz dz cs cz jz>
/ɸ β sʰ s z ʂʰ ʂ ʐ ɕʰ ɕ ʑ xʰ x ɣ h ɦ/<f v sz z zz ss s zs sc sj zj x gh hh h>
/m̥ m n̥ n ȵ̊ ȵ ŋ̊ ŋ/<pm m tn n cn jn kn gn>
/l̥ l r j w/<lh l r y w>
/ʰp ʰt ʰʈ ʰc ʰk ʰts ʰtɕ/<hp ht htd hc htz hcs>
/ʰsʰ ʰs ʰɕʰ ʰɕ ʰx ʰl̥/<hsz hz hsc hsj hx hlh>
/ʱb ʱd ʱɖ ʱɟ ʱg ʱdz ʱdʑ/<hb hd htd hj hg hdz hjs>
/ʱz ʱʐ ʱʑ/<hzz hzs hzj>
/ʱm ʱn ʱȵ ʱŋ ʱl ʱr ʱj/<hm hn hcn hgn hl hr hy>
/ᵐb ⁿd ⁿɖ ⁿg ⁿdz ⁿdʑ ⁿɣ/<mb ndt nd ng ndz njs ngh>
/ᵐpʰ ⁿtʰ ⁿʈʰ ⁿkʰ ⁿtsʰ ⁿtɕʰ ⁿxʰ ⁿsʰ ⁿɕʰ ⁿl̥/<mp nt ntd nk nts ncs nx ns nsc nl>
/ᵐg ᵐtsʰ/<mg mts>

/ᵖt ᵖʈ ᵖʈʰ ᵖk ᵖts ᵖtsʰ ᵖtɕ/<pt pd ptd pk ptz pts pcz>
/ᶲt ᶲʈ ᶲtɕ ᶲs ᶲl̥/<ft fd fcz fz fl>
/ʷɖ ʷg ʷdʑ ʷʐ ʷn ʷl/<vd vg vjs vzs vn vl>
/ˀm ˀn ˀj/<qm qn qy>
/a ɑ ɛ ɔ e ɵ ə o i ʉ ɯ u/<a oa ae ao e oe eo o i ue eu u>
Vowels not bolded in actual orthography. Bold merely marks the "main" vowel
nasalized <Vn>
long <VV> (for digraphs, only the main vowel is doubled)

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Unnamed Proto-Language:

/p t k q ʔ/ <p t k q '>
/ɸ θ x χ/ <f s g x>
/r j ɰ h/ <r j w h>
/m n ŋ/ <m n ñ>

/e o/ <i u>
/a ɐ ɒ/ <e a o>

Sample text (list of random polysyllables):
[ɸɐ 'khɔtˠ maχʲ'ʔɒrʷn 'etwo pˠɒm'xʷo 'thɛkʷʲɔqʷ θhe'tɛŋ]
<fa khut mex'orn itwu pomgu thikuq sheteñ>

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Dē Graut Bʉr's lang

/p t k q ʔ/ <p t c k '>
/ɸ θ x χ/ <f s x q>
/r j ɰ h/ <r j y h>
/m n ŋ/ <m n ỹ>



*Your vowel phoneme inventory is a bit unusual. From the Romanization you proposed, it seems you recognized that by giving cardinal vowel transcriptions.*

/e o/ <i u>
/a ɐ ɒ/ <e a o>

*Giving the allophones is good, but quick transcribing is easier from the phonemic transcription.*

Sample text (list of random polysyllables):
[ɸɐ 'khɔtˠ maχʲ'ʔɒrʷn 'etwo pˠɒm'xʷo 'thɛkʷʲɔqʷ θhe'tɛŋ]
<fa chut mex'orn ityu pomqu thicuk sheteỹ>[/quote]
linguoboy wrote:So that's what it looks like when the master satirist is moistened by his own moutarde.

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Unnamed Proto-Language:

/p t k q ʔ/ <p t k q '>
/ɸ θ x χ/ <f d x c>
/r j ɰ h/ <r j v h>
/m n ŋ/ <m n g>

/e o/ <e o>
/a ɐ ɒ/ <a u w>

[ɸɐ 'khɔtˠ maχʲ'ʔɒrʷn 'etwo pˠɒm'xʷo 'thɛkʷʲɔqʷ θhe'tɛŋ]
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dGudzong Tibetan

/pʰ p b tʰ t d ʈʰ ʈ ɖ c ɟ kʰ k g ʔ/ <ph p b th t d ṭh ṭ ḍ ć ǵ kh k g q-/-h>
/tsʰ ts dz tɕʰ tɕ dʑ/ <ch c j čh č ǰ>
/ɸ β sʰ s z ʂʰ ʂ ʐ ɕʰ ɕ ʑ xʰ x ɣ h ɦ/ <f v sh s z ṣh ṣ ẓ šh š ž xh x ğ h ḥ>
/m̥ m n̥ n ȵ̊ ȵ ŋ̊ ŋ/ <mh m nh n ňh ň ṇh ṇ>
/l̥ l r j w/ <lh l r y w>
/ʰp ʰt ʰʈ ʰc ʰk ʰts ʰtɕ/ <hp ht hṭ hć hk hc hč>
/ʰsʰ ʰs ʰɕʰ ʰɕ ʰx ʰl̥/ <hsh hs hšh hš hx hlh>
/ʱb ʱd ʱɖ ʱɟ ʱg ʱdz ʱdʑ/ <hb hd hḍ hǵ hg hj hǰ>
/ʱz ʱʐ ʱʑ/ <hz hẓ hž>
/ʱm ʱn ʱȵ ʱŋ ʱl ʱr ʱj/ <hm hn hň hṇ hl hr hy>
/ᵐb ⁿd ⁿɖ ⁿg ⁿdz ⁿdʑ ⁿɣ/ <mb nd nḍ ng nj nǰ nğ>
/ᵐpʰ ⁿtʰ ⁿʈʰ ⁿkʰ ⁿtsʰ ⁿtɕʰ ⁿxʰ ⁿsʰ ⁿɕʰ ⁿl̥/ <mp nt nṭ nk nc nč nx ns nš nl>
/ᵐg ᵐtsʰ/ <mg mc>
/ᵖt ᵖʈ ᵖʈʰ ᵖk ᵖts ᵖtsʰ ᵖtɕ/ <pt pṭ pk pc pč>
/ᶲt ᶲʈ ᶲtɕ ᶲs ᶲl̥/ <ft fṭ fč fs fl>
/ʷɖ ʷg ʷdʑ ʷʐ ʷn ʷl/ <vḍ vg vǰ vẓ vn vl>
/ˀm ˀn ˀj/ <qm qn qy>
/a ɑ ɛ ɔ e ɵ ə o i ʉ ɯ u/ <ae a ea oa e oe eo o i ui iu u>

All vowels but /ɵ ʉ/ can occur nasalized. Written as <n> after post-vocalic glides <w/y> but before final glottal stop <h>
Length is contrastive. Marked with doubling of the vowel (or the first vowel in the case of digraphs)

Syllable structure: C{j w}V{j w}(ʔ)

Four tones, operating on word level: ¯: high level [55/44] ´: rising [24/35] ^: rising-falling [132] `: falling [53/42] 
Tone is marked on the second letter of long vowel di/trigraphs.

¯ɕʰi kә ˆpʰә ro ´lәwʔ ʰpɯ `ᶲsɯ ⁿkʰor ´me ʑɑ̃ tɕu ɦo `ᵖtsʰә ʱdʑәʔ ´ʱdʑiː bo ¯ʰtɕiː ˆtɕʰә ɣi ´ɖuː ⁿɕʰɑ̃ ´miː sʰiː ¯ⁿtsʰɯwʔ ʱdʑәʔ ¯ʰʈeː lʉ ɦөʔ ¯ʰsʰә

Šhī keo phêo ro léowh hpiu fsìu nkor mé žan ču ḥo pcèo hǰeoh hǰií bo hčiī čhêo ği. Ḍuú nšan mií shii ncīuwh hǰeoh hṭeē lui ḥoeh hshēo.
You can tell the same lie a thousand times,
But it never gets any more true,
So close your eyes once more and once more believe
That they all still believe in you.
Just one time.

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2+3 clusivity wrote:Dē Graut Bʉr's lang

/p t k q ʔ/ <p t c k '>
/ɸ θ x χ/ <f s x q>
/r j ɰ h/ <r j y h>
/m n ŋ/ <m n ỹ>



*Your vowel phoneme inventory is a bit unusual. From the Romanization you proposed, it seems you recognized that by giving cardinal vowel transcriptions.*

/e o/ <i u>
/a ɐ ɒ/ <e a o>

*Giving the allophones is good, but quick transcribing is easier from the phonemic transcription.*

Sample text (list of random polysyllables):
[ɸɐ 'khɔtˠ maχʲ'ʔɒrʷn 'etwo pˠɒm'xʷo 'thɛkʷʲɔqʷ θhe'tɛŋ]
<fa chut mex'orn ityu pomqu thicuk sheteỹ>
Um, it's actually my lang...

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I stand corrected.
linguoboy wrote:So that's what it looks like when the master satirist is moistened by his own moutarde.

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Nortaneous wrote:/ᵖt ᵖʈ ᵖʈʰ ᵖk ᵖts ᵖtsʰ ᵖtɕ/
/ᶲt ᶲʈ ᶲtɕ ᶲs ᶲl̥/
What are these? Also, your natlang is kitchensinky and implausible.
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