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The IPA version of the Aghïyï page is : . I've still got to upload the conjugation of the auxiliary verbs, description of syntax, vocabulary, and the translation. This will probably take a while; thus, Pyurio (and anyone else who wants to derive a daughterlang from Aghïyï) should start their work now on sound changes, since the phonology section is complete.


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(Ack, shouldn't go so long without looking at the board. I'm bad that way.)

Yay for the recovery of the Adāta sound changes!

I approve of the proposal to rederive more words forward from Ndak Ta on a large scale -- bigger lexica are always a good thing -- but hope there'll be more to this push for bigger lexica than just so much mechanically running lexical items through sound changes.
As an example that's really the main thrust of this post, borrowings are another way to bulk up one's lexicon. Now, granted, if there are no large source lexica to borrow from, that won't really work. But I've been introducing new items in my own lexicon (via semantic shift and derivation and whatnot), and surrounding langs are welcome to borrow them, if their creators want to and decide that it sociolinguistically makes sense.

My lang has picked up a name, Ājat he-Heloun, and I've started jotting down stuff about it -- beware, nothing there is really presentable yet. The lexicon containing the words I've done so far is .


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Possibly. It's a full verb in Adāta, meaning to become. I know it's a bit of an about-turn in meaning, but...

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I have uploaded a new sample text and some revisions to morphology and the lexicon to .

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Yes. For example, the verb fazôs- has the deverbal fazôs (of course) and the participle fassêję.

As for the inceptive, perhaps a prefixed sote- (to begin)?

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Mm, prefixed, right. I had decided that my innovated morphology would be suffixing, and likewise that compounding would switch to head-last, but now that you mention that I can't for the life of me remember what justification I had for that. After all, (ttbomk) compound order is one of those things that tends to be conservative and doesn't just change at the drop of a hat, and there doesn't even seem to be a neighbouring lang I can claim influence from.

I hope I don't have to rework it all to prefixing, partly 'cause I'm already kind of attached to the suffixes, but also because any prefix with an odd number of syllables would cause pervasive stem alternations of a sort I'd rather not have (I guess I could analogise them away, though -- or let my stress rules see through derivation?).


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Here are all the examples of s//V_V that I've found in the lexicon.

Vsa- asa/ā, aisab/ēab, maisa/mēa, nasa/nā, ausa/ōa, Kasadgad/Kāxad
Vse- aise/ēi
Vsi- dasi/dai, susi/hui
Vso- auso/ō, disau/dī"ō; Gez. reso/rēo, wesau/zē"ō
Vsu- esul/eul, saisung/hēun

Obviously in some words the vowel before /s/ is long for other reasons; but it looks like it always becomes long before /so/, and possibly also before /sa/ (based on asa/ā, nasa/nā, if two identical short vowels don't usually merge into a single long one... but I can't remember what made me think that was the case-- I think it was a particular word I saw, but I can't find whatever it was now).


BTW, if it'd be helpful, I can update my post above as the rules get more refined.


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