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Author:  Arzena [ Tue Mar 06, 2018 4:41 pm ]
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Author:  Gwynwth [ Tue Mar 06, 2018 5:04 pm ]
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Author:  Frislander [ Tue Mar 06, 2018 6:17 pm ]
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Author:  Cedh [ Wed Mar 07, 2018 3:44 am ]
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The most likely place for a new Isles language would surely be somewhere in the eastern half of the Ttiruku island arc. Ttiruku itself is supposed to be a hotbed of linguistic diversity, but the only language there that we know so far is Pparwak. There could easily be a second branch of Isles there, and there's also LOTS of room for unrelated contact languages. (We also know that there is at least one descendant of Proto-Mbingmik supposed to be spoken on the island, but no such language has been described so far.) There's also another fairly large island immediately west of Ttiruku, the linguistic landscape of which is still completely undescribed.

If you really want to go further afield, having a look at suggests a few other places that should be relatively easy to reach from the Proto-Isles homeland on the southwestern tip of Tuysáfa:
- following the warm red current a bit eastward along the mountaineous southern coast of Tuysáfa, in a region where several yet unknown Mbingmik languages are spoken, as well as a couple of unrelated languages.
- following the cold blue current to the tropical west coast of Zeluzhia, south of the area where Zeluzh is spoken. Nothing about the languages in this region has been worked out so far.
- starting from the western half of the Ttiruku arc, westwards across the bay of Kasca towards Mrisaŋfa, the homeland of the Peninsular languages. Here you'd have several known contact languages to borrow from.

Author:  Gwynwth [ Wed Mar 07, 2018 3:37 pm ]
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Author:  Cedh [ Mon May 21, 2018 3:39 am ]
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The Gezoro grammar page now contains , including an overview of . And the lexicon now contains (not including semantic changes etc.; this would be a task for whoever wants to flesh out a descendant of one of the Rathedān dialects).

Now on to borrowing a couple of Kasadgad Gezoro words into Ndak Ta and sound-changing them for Buruya Nzaysa and Ndok Aisô... and if somebody else feels like adding more Gezoro loans to Adāta, please go ahead!

Author:  Arzena [ Mon May 21, 2018 1:38 pm ]
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Cedh, once again, your attention to etymological detail is a treasure to behold. Many ideas for the Gezoran substrate to Shtasa and for new ideas about lexemes / semantic change / etc to ponder in Empotle7a with this new knowledge about Gezoro. Brilliant work!

Author:  Zju [ Mon May 21, 2018 2:58 pm ]
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Author:  Corumayas [ Fri May 25, 2018 2:14 am ]
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Author:  Cedh [ Mon May 28, 2018 8:01 am ]
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Author:  kanejam [ Thu May 31, 2018 12:27 am ]
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Author:  KathTheDragon [ Thu May 31, 2018 7:58 am ]
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Oh, man, I really ought to go back and work on my langs, or maybe contribute to the PR reconstruction again.

Author:  Corumayas [ Mon Jun 04, 2018 4:35 pm ]
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Cedh, thanks for explaining those Gezoro sound changes, and for your very plausible suggestions for where other Plateau Western languages might branch off. It'd be interesting to see your input lexicon with stress marked; if this is the only Western language that has unpredictable stress at its earliest stage (is it? I'm not sure what starting stress system you used for Tmaśareʔ), it might mean that you've "discovered" the elusive Proto-Western stress system...

On a different front, I've modeled the sound changes from Proto-Eigə-Isthmus to Faraghin in SCA2, which helped me resolve a few uncertainties along the way. And I've had an idea for the etymology of Doroh: it could be a Fáralo borrowing from Doroh dorokk or (earlier/Proto-Doroh) dorohk, which could descend from PIsth. do~dosg 'camp repeatedly or intensely', or – more plausible semantically I think – from do(sg)~dosg 'many camps', which would be a parallel formation to Ngauro kasd~ga(s)d 'many streams'. (Of course this also recalls the etymology of Ferogh < PIsth as-pes-dosg 'of the camp-people'). What do you think?

Author:  Cedh [ Tue Jun 05, 2018 4:15 am ]
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Author:  Cedh [ Fri Jul 20, 2018 10:54 am ]
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Important notice

As many of you surely have noticed already, the ZBB has been experiencing lots of technical difficulties and server errors in the last couple of weeks, and because of this, Zompist has decided to move the whole board to a different location:

Unfortunately, it has not been possible to transfer any posts or user accounts from the old board to the new one, and so we can't continue using this thread to discuss the Akana project.

So if you want to keep in touch and stay updated, go to the new ZBB, register there (if you're asked for a code, it should be 676), and join the new !

Hope to see you there!

(I'll also send out this info to several former contributors as a PM, hoping that maybe a few of them might want to become more active again... fingers crossed...)

Author:  Vijay [ Fri Jul 20, 2018 6:39 pm ]
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Thanks, Cedh! :)

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