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cybrxkhan wrote:Next: insurance
Kala: hama

next: class; rank; grade

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Hellesan:

f amaura –es "insurance" » From amar "to trust", "to confide" + –aura "the act of the verb", from ame "faith", from Sarden amea "faith in the gods and spirits".

m sedol –s "rank" » variant of sedàvol "stay".


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Illyrian:
envreige (n.f.) — lit. "that which is unbroken"

Next word: toothsome, appealing
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Hellesan:

adj lhameval –e –s –es "delicious" » From lhame "togue" + –eval (typical of), in the sense of "pleasing to the tongue".


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Izo wrote:Next word: mutant
Kala: muntako / muntano

next: cowrie; shellfish

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Illyrian:
winkevijs — shellfish (cf. winke "shell" + vijs "fish")
vreuchelle — a general term for a small shellfish, bivalve or otherwise, of disputed origin; would be used for "cowrie"

Next word: stout, sturdy, strongly-built[/i]
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Christopher Schröder wrote:Next word: stout, sturdy, strongly-built
Xuáli:
dav - thick, stout, heavily built, beefy, burly (emphasising thickness across two dimensions, eg. fingers, arms, legs, body, man, stick, branch, tree trunk)

tsahu - durable, strong, sturdy, strongly-built; fort, fortress, stronghold, fortified; tough, unyielding, to withstand (emphasising durability, resistance to external forces, eg. building, door, boots, mindset)

cf.
paka - thick (dealing with a one-dimensional thickness, eg. paper, book, mattress, blanket)
gul - thick, viscous (of a liquid, eg. honey, paste)
balu - strong, powerful (able to generate great force on external objects)


Next: to swagger, walk with a wide stance
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Imralu wrote:Next: to swagger, walk with a wide stance
Kala: titsua

next: pros and cons; advantages and disadvantages; gains and losses

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sano wrote:
Imralu wrote:Next: to swagger, walk with a wide stance
Kala: titsua
Similar to the word in Ewed, an old conlang of mine which is being adapted into Xuáli: tatsung ... it also had the 1S pronoun na. The Xuáli word is different though: umbal
sano wrote:next: pros and cons; advantages and disadvantages; gains and losses
Xuáli
de ce vot e nuó
de ce vot e nu-o
good and bad ATTR LOC-OBL.SG.INDEF
"(the) good and bad in something"

Next: kneecap, patella
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Imralu wrote:Next: kneecap, patella
Kala: kenu

next: gather together; to entangle

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Hellesan:

v sarestur "to pick up", "to gather up" » From sar– "again" + estur "to take".
v darnir » From dar "to do" + menir "to unite".
v ensambrenar "to entangle", "to wrap up" » From Late Peran ensanbrenari, from Middle Peran ensarnerari, from en– (used as a verb shaper, from Sarden ennos "(in)side") + Peran sarnerari, intensive derivative of sarneri "to turn ((a)round)", "to spin", by metathesis of sanar– "wheel", "to roll", fro Meg. sner– "to roll".


Next word: upstairs and downstairs
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Imralu wrote:Next: kneecap, patella
lyēaz; joint; link + zāiti; leg; foot -> lyēaz zāitāer; knee; kneecap; patella
sano wrote:next: gather together; to entangle
āar; to tie; to tie up; to knit; to bind; to entangle; to gather together
Izo wrote:Next word: upstairs and downstairs
lāgām; in the upper place; in the upper position; up; upstairs
xātna; up; upward; upwards
yēoim; ground; lower place; lower position
yēoimod; in the lower place; down; downstairs
yēoimān; down; downward; downwards
kattā; right (opposite of left)
kattannā; to the the right (motion); rightward; rightwards
kattām; to the right (static); in the right; at the right
kōdā; left (+ kōdannā and kōdām as counterparts of kattannā and kattām)

Next word: to run (of liquids, et c.); to [be] pour[ed]
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Skomakar'n wrote:Next word: to run (of liquids, et c.); to [be] pour[ed]
Xuáli:
suéhi - to run, to flow, to be poured
Hence:
dasue - river, torrent (from da(a) 'large')
tsisue - stream, creek, riverlet (from tsim 'small')

Next: daunting, imposing, intimidating
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Imralu wrote:Next: daunting, imposing, intimidating
Adhwána:
Sedámhygny /sɨ'dawɪjnɪ/ "daunting", "intimidating", "overwhelming"; from sédy meaning 'big', and wýghan, meaning 'to feel'. Refers to the feeling of being overwhelmed and relatively fearful due to being overwhelmed.
Fómsvany /'fousvɐnɪ/ "intimidating", "fear striking"; from fómsvan "to scare". Refers to a something adept at striking fear and intimidation, generally being scary and threatening, rather than overwhelming.

Next: perception, to perceive, perceptive

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lctrgzmn wrote:Next: perception, to perceive, perceptive
Kala: matsi

next: myopia; nearsightedness; shortsightedness

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Hellesan:

f taidocte –s » Neolog. Taken from Middle Peran taitokete "short sight", from taiti "short", from *estaiari "to cut", from Meg. stai "to cut" + okete "vision", from Sate OKETU– « OKE– "to see", "to observe".


Next word: classism or class discrimination
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Izo wrote:Next word: classism or class discrimination
Kala: pitle - to discriminate against; discrimination

next: transition; interim

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Hellesan:

f tirnedaura –es » From Middle Peran and Sarden tirnetaura "transition", from tirnetari "to pass".


Next word: sea floor
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Proto-Vdangku:

letakto n ocean floor, seabed, riverbed



next: reptile,(lizard, turtle, snake, alligator)
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treskro wrote:next: reptile,(lizard, turtle, snake, alligator)
Illyrian —

gieck (n.m.) — reptile, crawling thing which resembles a lizard, snake; only sometimes includes turtles, but often does not
lachert (n.m.) — lizard
cagnarg (n.m.) — snake
lagertauld (n.m.) — alligator
Tourteuill (n.m.) — turtle, tortoise; generally considered separate from lizards and snakes

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treskro wrote:next: reptile,(lizard, turtle, snake, alligator)
Kanic Xuáli (spoken by the general populace):

halatehu - reptile, any scaly animal (usually not including fish) (from hala 'skin' and tehu 'scale, tile')
tcarak - lizard, skink, gecko, any small reptile with four legs and no shell (hence tcaragdak or tcarattak 'newt', 'salamander', from tcarak + dak 'frog' -> "frog lizard")
tcaharak / tcaharatta - lizard, iguana, goanna, monitor, any large reptile with four legs and no shell (tcarak + the augmentative infix "-(V)h-" + da 'big, large' - with assimilation)
ictu - snake, any reptile with no legs, including legless lizards
aludeha - tortoise (from alu 'animal + deha 'box')
uerea - turtle, terrapin (originally from ue 'swim' + deha 'box')
gagamats / garamats - crocodile, alligator

Balic Xuáli (spoken by the Om Bal, the military force of Teuáhu, who encourage ignorance of and disregard for nature ... Bal are usually ridiculed by other Bal if they appear knowledgeable about non-useful, non-dangerous animals or plants. Bal generally avoid using any of the above words, with the exception of gagamats or garamats and possibly ictu):

xak - any small, unimportant animal, including the majority of reptiles (from zak 'to crush underfoot')
dziqau - any legless animal or person (snakes, worms, legless lizards)
hiúnem - something or someone that must be killed pre-emptively, before he, she or it can do any harm (used to describe poisonous or stinging animals, as well as to describe people who have witnessed something incriminating and have to be "taken care of")
tsaium (e lau) - (living) helmet (can be used to refer to a tortoise)
Christopher Schröder wrote:Next word: patent medicine, substance which does not possess the properties it is advertised to have
eiguerea - "snake oil", patent medicine, literally "sea turtle blood" after the famous case of the Bahan (≈ emperor) Pelu IV. One of Bahan Pelu's imperial concubines was, unusually, dismissed from her role and, apparently feeling jilted, went on to publicly perform a theatrical piece in which she outed the Bahan as both impotent and poorly endowed. For this dishonour, she was sentenced to le xagu (execution by being pressed face down into mud) and then the Bahan retorted with a popular counter-performance in which his actors extolled the wonders of sea turtle blood as a natural booster of virility. His concubines backed up his story and sea turtle blood briefly became popular as a kind of non-functioning placebo Viagra and was sold for exorbitant prices. Because of the difficulty in collecting sea turtle blood, some simply sold goats blood. This craze lasted until the Bahan suddenly died and several of the remaining concubines staged a show in which they claimed that the sea turtle blood had never worked in the first place and told that they had backed up the Bahan's story out of fear of le xagu.

Next word: noose
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Nice answer, I think that's the most detailed response so far.

Poswa tiffateppti essentially "hanging(v) rope" although just teppti would do.
Pabappa wunudepa where the first morpheme is different and the second is the same.

Neither of these cultures use hanging as a punishment but they used to in the distant past and it is referenced in their religious texts. In fact their religion's closest equivalent of Satan tried to have his (human) wife hung for disobedience, but she was rescued and sent out an army against him.

next: downtown, central focus point of a city
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Soap wrote:Nice answer, I think that's the most detailed response so far.

Poswa tiffateppti essentially "hanging(v) rope" although just teppti would do.
Pabappa wunudepa where the first morpheme is different and the second is the same.

Neither of these cultures use hanging as a punishment but they used to in the distant past and it is referenced in their religious texts. In fact their religion's closest equivalent of Satan tried to have his (human) wife hung for disobedience, but she was rescued and sent out an army against him.

next: downtown, central focus point of a city
sīali; this word already exists as central, waist and middle and thus any central point in general, including that of a city
seînd; center (of a city); central point; downtown; crowd; collection; gathering; meeting (from Proto-Kozea *sanînd; 'piece'; 'entity', whence also sand; 'piece', 'entity', nīnā (neuter nind); 'one'; 'a/an', 'first')

Next word: television
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Skomakar'n wrote:Next word: television
as a calque
āmurvarna [ˌɒːmuɾˈβɑːɾnɐ] - to watch television (lit. 'to see far)
> āmurvarīr [ˌɒːmuɾˈβɑːrʏɾ] - television (far-seeing)
> āmurvarþu [ˌɒːmuɾˈβɑːɾθɯ] - television set (far-seeing-tool)

if invented indigenously
varkuzurvīr [ˌβɑːɾkuˈzuːɾβʏɾ] - television (lit. vision carrying)
> varkuzurvun [ˌβɑːɾkuˈzuːɾβɯn] - television set (vision-carrier)
> VZ:n varna [ˈβɑːzɐn ˈβɑːɾnɐ] - to watch TV

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Thsäv: mūs [muːs]
i'm not sure of the etymology anymore, but it appears to have been a diminutive

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