Help your conlang fluency (2)

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Ato to'ohalınlinmir pikara dapaol.
Everyone thinks they have a normal calendar.
I generally forget to say, so if it's relevant and I don't mention it--I'm from Southern Michigan and speak Inland North American English. Yes, I have the Northern Cities Vowel Shift; no, I don't have the cot-caught merger; and it is called pop.

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din wrote:Tormiott (Rockall):
Stena souma ascarhian calandier soch?
/ˈstəna ˈsuːma ˈɛskaɹjɪn ˈkalɪndʑəɹ sox/
nobody why make.use.of.3s calendar be.proper.3s
Why does nobody make use of normal calendars?
alynnidalar wrote:Ato to'ohalınlinmir pikara dapaol.
Everyone thinks they have a normal calendar.
Vanum dêâvmê gëshök.
Strange is our calendar.

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Ñə̀rai tañə «kyaləntər»?
What is a “calendar”?
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Pole, the wrote:What is a “calendar”?
It a tul fi twak pon taym wen wan yeh.
It's a tool for tracking time during one year.
alynnidalar wrote:Everyone thinks they have a normal calendar.
Yu si, Sajiwan af sem kalenda olda wes wol af im.
Well, Sajiwan has the same calendar as the whole Western world has.


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jal wrote:Well, Sajiwan has the same calendar as the whole Western world has.
Pi's ta nítica carru uf poyé flódír? Wit aini est aina carru.
INT-N.NOM be-PRES.ACT.3SG.CLIT that-F.SG.NOM western-F.SG.NOM world-SG.NOM about REL-F.SG.LOC talk-PRES.ACT.3SG? CONJ only be-PRES.ACT.3SG one-F.SG.NOM world-SG.NOM
What's this Western world you're talking about? After all, there is just one world.

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hwhatting wrote:What's this Western world you're talking about? After all, there is just one world.
"Wes wol" a nem fi pah a wol im af mos mos sem kolca an sivalaysecon an sem teknolaji ricnis. Im geda mos a Yurop, dem Y.S. i Kanada, an Oswelya i Nyu Silan.
The "Western world" is the name for a part of the world which has predominately the same culture and civilization, and the same technological advancements. It comprises most of Europe, the US and Canada, and Australia and New Zealand.


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hwhatting wrote:
jal wrote:Well, Sajiwan has the same calendar as the whole Western world has.
Pi's ta nítica carru uf poyé flódír? Wit aini est aina carru.
INT-N.NOM be-PRES.ACT.3SG.CLIT that-F.SG.NOM western-F.SG.NOM world-SG.NOM about REL-F.SG.LOC talk-PRES.ACT.3SG? CONJ only be-PRES.ACT.3SG one-F.SG.NOM world-SG.NOM
What's this Western world you're talking about? After all, there is just one world.
Tha britinthid valasad Trampolod.
ESTAR-3SG:P break-VN-ABL election-ABL Trump-PRT-ABL
It has broken up after Trump's election.
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Tha cvastam émi cvastam santham amal phelsa. -- Friedrich Schiller
ESTAR-3SG:P human-OBJ only human-OBJ true-OBJ REL-LOC play-3SG:A

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jal wrote:
Pole, the wrote:What is a “calendar”?
It a tul fi twak pon taym wen wan yeh.
It's a tool for tracking time during one year.
Sai nəhihə iheala.
That must be useful.
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alynnidalar wrote:Ato to'ohalınlinmir pikara dapaol.
Everyone thinks they have a normal calendar.
ati ue pa'a ka
Normal or regular?

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masako wrote:Normal or regular?
Póca's dírdailiti?
which-F.SG.NOM be-3SG.PRES.ACT.CLIT difference-SG.NOM?
What's the difference?

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hwhatting wrote:What's the difference?
Olde in af nohmal.
Regular needn't be normal.


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jal wrote:Regular needn't be normal.
To ni mai tu daicitun tar Masaconaus fát.
That-N.SG.NOM NEG 1SG-DAT ARTC-N.SG.ACC mean-PRTC.RES.PASS.N.SG.ACC ARTC-M.SG.GEN Masako-GEN say-3SG.PRES.ACT
That doesn't tell me what Masako meant.

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Abie'č a šthout on a žermanišu spaču, valdavo inspireda thorv chlaviše spači.
[ˈabi̯etʃ a ʃt͡θou̯t oʊ̯n a ʒermaˈɲiʃu ˈspatʃu | ʋalˈdaʋo inspiˈreda t͡θorʋ xlaˈʋiʃe ˈspatɕi]

I have an idea for a Germanic language heavily inspired by the Slavic languages.
To ni mai tu daicitun tar Masaconaus fát.
That-N.SG.NOM NEG 1SG-DAT ARTC-N.SG.ACC mean-PRTC.RES.PASS.N.SG.ACC ARTC-M.SG.GEN Masako-GEN say-3SG.PRES.ACT
That doesn't tell me what Masako meant.
Thači'č, vat speč'i vou a regularised (of. dečimalised) kalendar.
[ˈt͡θatɕitʃ | ʋat spetɕi ʋou̯ a reɡulaˈrised | oʊ̯n ferˈbuʃɲi detɕimaˈʎised | kaˈlendar]

I think he is speaking about a regularized (e.g. decimalized) calendar.
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Pole, the wrote:Abie'č a šthout on a žermanišu spaču, valdavo inspireda thorv chlaviše spači.
[ˈabi̯etʃ a ʃt͡θou̯t oʊ̯n a ʒermaˈɲiʃu ˈspatʃu | ʋalˈdaʋo inspiˈreda t͡θorʋ xlaˈʋiʃe ˈspatɕi]

I have an idea for a Germanic language heavily inspired by the Slavic languages.
Aвє су? Да шини сати сра сєнда мана фулу сати сравли да скаплє вахлиско сидиско тунго.
avɛ̄ sū | da šini sati srā senda mana fulu sati sravli da skaplē wahliskō sidiskō tungō
have-PRS.2SG 2SG.NOM | PTCL seem-PRS.3SG REL.N.SG.DIR there be.PRS.3PL many.N.DIR.SG folk.DIR.SG REL.N.SG.DIR want-PRS.3SG INF=make.INF Slavic-N.PL Germanic-N.PL language.PL
Do you? There seems to be lots of people who want to make Slavo-Germanic languages.
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Znex wrote: Aвє су? Да шини сата сра сєнда мана фулу фата сравли да скаплє вахлиско сидиско тунго.
avɛ̄ sū | da šini sata srā senda mana fulu fata sravli da skaplē wahliskō sidiskō tungō
have-PRS.2SG 2SG.NOM | PTCL seem-PRS.3SG that.N.SG there be.PRS.3PL many.N.DIR.SG folk.DIR.SG REL.N.DIR.SG want-PRS.3SG INF=make.INF Slavic-N.PL Germanic-N.PL language.PL
Do you? There seems to be lots of people who want to make Slavo-Germanic languages.
Thuš, thuš ič abie.
[t͡θuʃ | t͡θuʃ itʃ ˈabi̯e]

Yes, yes I do.
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Pole, the wrote:I think he is speaking about a regularized (e.g. decimalized) calendar.
nimana
2sg-be.correct-NPST
You're correct.

námalu tsiya
PROX-speak-NOM be.new-NPST
This is a new language.

wapakátla
1sg-use-POT-NPST
I may use it.

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Mi a longga cenc Di Obit tu Sajiwan.
I'm still translating The Hobbit in Sajiwan.


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wapalápa takítla
1sg-read-VOL-NPST complete-PRF-NPST
I would like to read it when it is done.

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Con The Art of Language Invention om zevücukmunêt gön Sajem Tan möm.

The Sajem Tan tribe will attempt to translate The Art of Language Invention.

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shanoxilt wrote:The Sajem Tan tribe will attempt to translate The Art of Language Invention.

Yu les mek redi fi odatok bosi tok an et pon onyon.
You should prepare to translate arrogant language and hate of onions.

masako wrote:I would like to read it when it is done.

Mi a go pos nes pis wen mi a don. Mi af cenc nof, ova nof sentan in kway don.
I'll post another part when it's done. I've translated quite a bit [of the first few pages, that is], but many sentences aren't completely done.


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Pole, the wrote:Abie'č a šthout on a žermanišu spaču, valdavo inspireda thorv chlaviše spači.
[ˈabi̯etʃ a ʃt͡θou̯t oʊ̯n a ʒermaˈɲiʃu ˈspatʃu | ʋalˈdaʋo inspiˈreda t͡θorʋ xlaˈʋiʃe ˈspatɕi]
Bilamobli bi tse matem?
You mean Vilamovian?
Siöö jandeng raiglin zåbei tandiüłåd;
nää džunnfin kukuch vklaivei sivei tåd.
Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei.

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jal wrote:
masako wrote:I would like to read it when it is done.
Mi a go pos nes pis wen mi a don. Mi af cenc nof, ova nof sentan in kway don.
I'll post another part when it's done. I've translated quite a bit [of the first few pages, that is], but many sentences aren't completely done.
Ha zye i yu wa i zinye ze mu zyi ndo?
Q cause COP C 2s COP PRF-PROG NEG know GEN.DEF way
Is it because you don't yet know how?
Glossing Abbreviations: COMP = comparative, C = complementiser, ACS / ICS = accessible / inaccessible, GDV = gerundive, SPEC / NSPC = specific / non-specific
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Imralu wrote:Is it because you don't yet know how?
Ye. An grama an woh geda. Mi cenc a dem mi se, an wok bak leta. Mi in me soso mekop ting - mi gol pon nacural KIK*, so mi af stodi oda KIK dem fehs.

*dem Karibyan Inggles Kwiyol


Yes. Both grammar and vocab. I translate what I know, and go back later [to the things I skipped]. I can't just make things up - I'm aiming for a natural CEC*, so I have to study other CECs first.

*Caribbean English Creoles


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edátan Ilya íla múshan údukwa
do-VOL-1sg Ilya CNTR lack-1sg motivation-ACC

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masako wrote:do-VOL-1sg Ilya CNTR lack-1sg motivation-ACC
"I should work on Ilya but I lack motivation"?


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