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PostPosted: Sat Jan 13, 2018 12:05 pm 
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Grrowrrr meow grrowrry grrr bow. Bow mek grrowrrr ach oogrry xhrrub, oogrry bow bowl grrr grrowrrr ach-ach, grrowrrr grrowl "WAGRRH WAGRRH!" grrr bow ach-ach.
Mountain lions don't like dogs. Dogs make mountain lions climb big trees. A lot of dogs bark at the mountain lion to climb down, and then the mountain lion growls at them to clear off, and they go away.


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 13, 2018 11:57 pm 
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Vijay wrote:
Grrowrrr meow grrowrry grrr bow. Bow mek grrowrrr ach oogrry xhrrub, oogrry bow bowl grrr grrowrrr ach-ach, grrowrrr grrowl "WAGRRH WAGRRH!" grrr bow ach-ach.
Mountain lions don't like dogs. Dogs make mountain lions climb big trees. A lot of dogs bark at the mountain lion to climb down, and then the mountain lion growls at them to clear off, and they go away.

O.O Hi e ma?
O.O What's this?

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 14, 2018 12:58 am 
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 15, 2018 8:52 am 
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uyisbu mai kabáma
bedroom-ACC 3pl.GEN be.large-AUG-3s
Our bedroom is very large.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 15, 2018 9:58 am 
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Mi-dem slip rum in bik fo so, oba im swel in likl.
Our bedroom isn't that large, but it's not small either.


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 15, 2018 11:18 am 
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No nunat kitu tod li ed nukaip, no ama kim molas era.
My bedroom is big enough for me to fit into.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 15, 2018 1:53 pm 
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Wowgrrr berroogrrr grrarrr grrowka, rrekin Wowgrrr caan grrek wahaam bi.
My bedroom is small, but I can stay in it, too.


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 15, 2018 4:14 pm 
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Heytsə dzenla šu tširyə, əts ts'i šitš'ə xire tširyə.
sleep-GER room-1.S NEG big-3.S.M and DIST.S.M however enough big-3.S.M
[ˈhejtsʰɐ ˈdzenlæ ˈɕu ˈtɕʰiɾjɐ | ɐtsʰ ˈtsʼi ˈɕitɕʼɐ ˈxiɾe ˈtɕʰiɾjɐ]
My bedroom is not big, but it is big enough.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 15, 2018 5:24 pm 
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Káyatsə lahem ts'iz-tša kəlasan waġowə.
growl-GER language DIST.S.F=DAT explain-PATN want.IPFV-1.S-3.S.M
[ˈkʰɑjætsʰɐ ˈlæhem ˈtsʼiztɕʰæ ˈkʰɐlæsæn ˈwæɣowɐ]
I want a gloss to that growl-language.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 15, 2018 5:56 pm 
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It's a conlang with ambiguity on steroids. :D

Grrowrrr meow grrowrry grrr bow.
mountain.lion(cub) NEG happy PREP dog
'Mountain lions don't like dogs.'
(Grrowrrr means 'mountain lion cub/kitten' by default but can also be used to mean 'mountain lion' in general or any other kind of offpsring. When referring to other kinds of offspring, it must be preceded by the name of the animal/plant/whatever. Also, grrr is far more ambiguous than the gloss suggests and depends heavily on context).

Bow mek grrowrrr ach oogrry xhrrub,
dog CAUS mountain.lion.(cub) ascend/travel.slowly big/very/many vegetation
'Dogs make mountain lions climb big trees.'

oogrry bow bowl grrr grrowrrr ach-ach,
big/very/many dog bark/speak.dog.language COMP mountain.lion.(cub) descend/travel.quickly
'A lot of dogs bark at the mountain lion to climb down,'

grrowrrr grrowl "WAGRRH WAGRRH!" grrr bow ach-ach.
mountain.lion.(cub) growl/speak.(mountain.lion.language) clear.off clear.off CONJ dog descend/travel.quickly
'and then the mountain lion growls at them to clear off, and they run away.'
(Wagrrh wagrrh is really one word. A more accurate translation of ach-ach in this context would be 'run away', even though I wrote 'go away' earlier).

Wowgrrr berr-oogrrr grrarrr grrowka,
adult.male.mountain.lion bed-thing/deer home small
'My bedroom is small,'

rrekin Wowgrrr caan grrek wahaam bi.
but adult.male.mountain.lion can live there two/also
'but I can stay in it, too.'

Grrowl itself means 'Mountain Lion language' by default but can also mean 'language'.


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 15, 2018 11:25 pm 
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Siləm zorlåše-pə låġá-pə zitše-zə row-lo šu ġuhowə. :wink:
serious consider-1.P-SJV=COMP be_supposed-3.S.M=COMP some-S.F=REL way=INST NEG believe.IPFV-1.S-3.S.M
[ˈsilɐm ˈzoɾlɔɕepʰɐ ˈlɔɣɑpʰɐ ˈzitɕʰezɐ ˈɾowlo ˈɕu ˈɣuhowɐ :wink: ]
Somehow I don't think we're supposed to take it seriously. :wink:

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2018 1:21 am 
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Litšə došeyšan-k'əl xowlå-pə šu låġá-pə wəlowə.
sound write-PATN=ABL ask.PFV-1.P=COMP NEG be_supposed-3.S.M=COMP assume-1.S-3.S.M
[ˈlitɕʰɐ ˈdoɕejɕænkʼɐl ˈxowlɔpʰɐ ˈɕu ˈlɔɣɑpʰɐ ˈwɐlowɐ]
I assume we are not supposed to ask for a transcription.

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Amuhawr jalla vowa vta hlakrhi hdm duthmi xaja.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2018 4:40 am 
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Ri bak ed teaigi, suk kilai pin? Pod ed sinok hai kib, paik naito nai lino li.
Who the fuck cares what we're supposed to do? Tell us how to pronounce your language.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2018 8:54 am 
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It swit mi minu in af no layan de Sajiwa montan.
I'm glad there aren't any lions in the Sajiwan mountains.


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2018 10:18 am 
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jal wrote:
It swit mi minu in af no layan de Sajiwa montan.
I'm glad there aren't any lions in the Sajiwan mountains.

Attu toyé Tarré leónai nérantis.
also ART-F.SG.LOC Tarra-LOC lion-PL.NOM NEG-be-PRES.ACT.3PL
There are no lions on Tarra, too.

(Lions are only known as exotic animals from books.)


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2018 12:17 pm 
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Dē Graut Bʉr wrote:
Ri bak ed teaigi, suk kilai pin? Pod ed sinok hai kib, paik naito nai lino li.
Who the fuck cares what we're supposed to do? Tell us how to pronounce your language.


De ts'i tulyə-zə hək'a dzek'imde-lo kutswə zəhuywə?
PROX.S.M DIST.S.M many-3.S.M=REL nation script-DEF.S.F=INST say.PFV-GER-3.S.M be_able.IPFV-3.S.M-3.S.M
[ˈde ˈtsʼi ˈtʰuljɐzɐ ˈhɐkʼæ ˈdzekʼimdelo ˈkʰutsʰwɐ ˈzɐhujwɐ]
Can he express it with IPA?

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2018 12:53 pm 
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Wowgrrr caan trry. :P
adult.male.mountain.lion can try
I can try. :P

[gʁæwʁ mjæw ˈgʁæwʁi gʁ baw]. [baw mɛk gʁæwʁ ʔaχ ˈʔuːʁi χʁəb], [ˈʔuːʁi baw bawɭ gʁ gʁæwʁ ʔaˈχaχ], [gʁæwʁ gʁæwl waʁ waʁ gʁ baw ʔaˈχaχ]. [wawʁ bɛˈʁuːʁ ~ bɛˈɖuːʁ gʁaʁ ˈgʁæwka], [ˈʁekɪn wawʁ kaːn gʁɛk waˈhaːm bi]. [wawʁ kaːn tʁaj].


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2018 1:22 pm 
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Lårkə ezow aku någawdə əts mul ts'iwə-no ts'exáwu row-k'ə lelləyowə.
mountain cat voice system-3.S.M-DEF.S.M and person DIST.S.M-3.S.M=PAT compare.IPFV-3.P.M way-LOC wonder.IPFV-1.S-3.S.M
[ˈlɔɾkʰɐ ˈezow ˈækʰu ˈnɔgæwdɐ ɐtsʰ ˈmul ˈtsʼiwɐno ˈtsʼexɑwu ˈrowkʼɐ lelˈlɐjowɐ]
I wonder how the vocal tract of a mountain lion compares to that of a human.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2018 3:29 pm 
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Vijay wrote:
Wowgrrr caan trry. :P
adult.male.mountain.lion can try
I can try. :P

[gʁæwʁ mjæw ˈgʁæwʁi gʁ baw]. [baw mɛk gʁæwʁ ʔaχ ˈʔuːʁi χʁəb], [ˈʔuːʁi baw bawɭ gʁ gʁæwʁ ʔaˈχaχ], [gʁæwʁ gʁæwl waʁ waʁ gʁ baw ʔaˈχaχ]. [wawʁ bɛˈʁuːʁ ~ bɛˈɖuːʁ gʁaʁ ˈgʁæwka], [ˈʁekɪn wawʁ kaːn gʁɛk waˈhaːm bi]. [wawʁ kaːn tʁaj].


Ts'i-k'ə-zə zikem-zə hink'ə ts'ü liklə xámori.
DIST.S.M=LOC=REL sound-P.F=REL throat back sound-P.F expect.IPFV-1.S-3.P.F
[ˈtsʼikʼɐzɐ ˈzikemzɐ ˈhiŋkʼɐ ˈtsʼy ˈlikʰlɐ ˈxɑmoɾi]
I was expecting some pharyngeals in there.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2018 8:33 pm 
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Liwåmu Nik'ə nora-k'ə såx hålawtu.
lion-P.M Nik'ə country=LOC one legend-ADJ-3.P.M
[ˈliwɔmu ˈnikʼɐ ˈnoɾækʼɐ ˈsɔx ˈhɔlæwtu]
Lions are only legendary in Nik'ə.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 19, 2018 5:05 pm 
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Another paragraph of The Hobbit. Quite happy having this down, as it contains both a number of expressions of amazement and flower names, the latter which I had to translate into Caribbean flowers that also invoke the shape iof fireworks (so I had to research Caribbean flowers for a while).
Obit ya wrote:
“Gandaf, Gandaf! Komfon mi don! Yu in wok wok majik man im gi Ol Man Tuk tu geda majik dayman botm dem bile imsef, an neba lus til tel so? Yu in bwoda ya im yus tel so majik tel de fis-dem, bo dwagn an ohk an jayan, an sefing a pwinsas an no-fosi lok a det-paran son? Yu in man ya im mek gut gut faya majik fo so! Mi memba dis! Ol Man Tuk yus ohganays dem wen Mitsoma Pwaya Nay. Maynifisan! Dem yus flay ina skay sem spayda lili an cef bwos flowas an tohc lili ota faya, an ang de ifning lay optu dahk a nay!” Yu redi pikop Mst. Pocins in so dol sem im won tingk, an olso im won dem flowas fo so. “Kis mi ay!” im gwan. “Yu in Gandaf im mek olip a kwaya lat an las lef wok yon an gon fi mat abenca? Olda mata sta klaym pam op kol pon elf-dem—o sel pon cip, sel twoh oda coh! Kwis mi an, lif yus kway fib—mi min, yu yus komfyus mata de dis pah-dem wen de im redi gon. Af mi pahdm, oba mi in se atol yu longga mek bisnis.”

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“Gandalf, Gandalf! Good gracious me! Not the wandering wizard that gave Old Took a pair of magic diamond studs that fastened themselves and never came undone till ordered? Not the fellow who used to tell such wonderful tales at parties, about dragons and goblins and giants and the rescue of princesses and the unexpected luck of widows’ sons? Not the man that used to make such particularly excellent fireworks! I remember those! Old Took used to have them on Midsummer’s Eve. Splendid! They used to go up like great lilies and snapdragons and laburnums of fire and hang in the twilight all evening!” You will notice already that Mr. Baggins was not quite so prosy as he liked to believe, also that he was very fond of flowers. “Dear me!” he went on. “Not the Gandalf who was responsible for so many quiet lads and lasses going off into the Blue for mad adventures? Anything from climbing trees to visiting elves—or sailing in ships, sailing to other shores! Bless me, life used to be quite inter—I mean, you used to upset things badly in these parts once upon a time. I beg your pardon, but I had no idea you were still in business.”


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Spayda lili, Hymenocallis caribaea
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Cef bwos pam, Pseudobombax ellipticum
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Cef bwos flowa:
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Tohc lili, Kniphofia uvaria
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 20, 2018 7:50 pm 
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Džihyə Pålmər Årnod wagowə əts ka-no peytsəwə-tša k'ohla-no suytsəri šitš'ə zošayowə.
another-S.M Palmer Arnold want-1.S-3.S.M and INDEF.S.M-PAT buy.PFV-GER-3.S.M=DAT chair-1.S=PAT leave.PFV-GER-3.S.F however be_motivated.IPFV-1.S-3.S.M
[ˈdʑihjɐ ˈpʰɔlmɐɾ ˈɔɾnod ˈwægowɐ ɐtsʰ ˈkʰæno ˈpʰejtsʰɐwɐtɕæ ˈkʼohlæno ˈsujtsʰɐɾi ˈɕitɕʼɐ zoˈɕæjowɐ]
I want another Arnold Palmer but cannot be bothered to get out of my chair to order one.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 21, 2018 9:32 pm 
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Sətårbəkəs-k'ə-zə šotšiyə-zə tšey limon xåk'sanmu-no nåwe-zə kåpe rist'əla-k'ə-zə Pålmər Årnodmu rowwə-lo šu ninnəyə.
Starbucks=LOC-REL black-S.M=REL tea lemon drink-PATN-P.M=PAT favorite-S.F=REL coffee shop-1.S=LOC=REL Palmer Arnold-P.M way=INST NEG taste.IPFV-3.S.M
[sɐˈtʰɔɾbɐkʰɐskʼɐzɐ ˈɕotɕʰijɐzɐ ˈtɕʰej ˈlimon ˈxɔkʼsænmuno ˈnɔwezɐ ˈkʰɔpʰe ˈɾistʼɐlækʼɐzɐ ˈpʰɔlmɐɾ ˈɔɾnodmu ˈɾowːɐlo ˈɕu ˈninːɐjɐ]
Black tea lemonades at Starbucks do not taste like Arnold Palmers at my favorite coffee shop.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 22, 2018 8:00 pm 
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Ka došeytsə-tša ġåyowə-pə gawə.
INDEF.S.M write-GER=DAT find-1.S-3.S.M=COMP necessary-3.S.M
[kʰæ ˈdoɕejtsʰɐtɕʰæ ˈɣɔjowɐpʰɐ ˈgæwɐ]
I need to find something to write.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 24, 2018 10:06 am 
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Ama naik hanu imite lsapai. Tegai mapot nai zurke ad anku era.
I feel that too. Finding something to write can be hard.

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