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Shrdlu wrote:Taking a break from my main project and experimenting around abit.

so... The Alai language:

consonants
b,t,k,m,j,h,l,s,x,f,'
b,t,l,s may be geminated inside words.
allowed clusters:
xk

/l/ may be an /r/-tap before long non-nasal wovels
/b/ /t/ /k/ is at end of unconjugated verbs de/voiced to /p/ /d/ /g/

vowels
a,ą,i,o,y,e,é(low tone),u,ú(low tone),aa,ii,oo,ąi,ai,aai
Kąikoki jai bexkąimij hitomaxkimi. Okotaaimi heją ąi.
Your phonology is interesting but there are a couple of things about it that are odd and uncommon in natlangs, one of which is the presence of just a single nasal phoneme /m/. Very few natlangs have the consonant /m/ but lack /n/. Also it is odd that /b/ devoices but that /t/ and /k/ voice at the end of unconjugated verbs. If you want to make your language have a more naturalistic phonology, perhaps you could add the consonant /n/ and get rid of the devoicing of /b/.

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I don't really know if I posted here anymore, so here goes:

/t d k ʔ/
/s z ʃ ʒ x/
/m r n/

/a aː ɛ ɛː i iː ɔ ɔː u uː ɞ ɞː/

/ɒy ui uʌ ɥa jɞ/
/uʉɞ ɑɨɞ eʉɑ/

But, OTOH has:

[b̥ t d k kʲ q ʔ]
[s z ʃ ʒ ʂ ʐ ç x χ h]
[m r n ɽ ɳ]
[a ɑ ɒ aː äː ɐː e ɛ ɛː ŭ u u̟ uː wː i i̩ ɪ iː jː i̟ː yː ɔ̆ ɔ ʌ ɔː ɨ ʉ ɞ͍ ə ɜ ɞ͍ː ɞː]

Allophony's a bitch. Stress rules are far more shitty

Edit: The allophones aren't far off from the phonemes, though.
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SHiNKiROU wrote:Syllable structure: SCCGVGCCC
- lift (lif, lif-tə, liftf)
Can you give an example of a maximum syllable?

also: liftf? wot?

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Bob Johnson wrote:also: liftf? wot?
Languages don't have to adhere to that example sonority hierarchy.
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MisterBernie wrote:
Bob Johnson wrote:also: liftf? wot?
Languages don't have to adhere to that example sonority hierarchy.
so it's actually two syllables but it's okay to call it one for no reason then, got it

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How many syllables are there in <strength>?
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Further proof that English is turning into Danish: I have stød in that word. :P

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Astraios wrote:Further proof that English is turning into Danish: I have stød in that word. :P
OMG Now that you mention it, I have it as [stɹɛˤŋθ].

Checking my German:
[ɑˤŋsts͡ʃʋɔɪs] - Further proof that German, too, is turning into Danish: I have stød before vowels
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Maoti wrote: Your phonology is interesting but there are a couple of things about it that are odd and uncommon in natlangs, one of which is the presence of just a single nasal phoneme /m/. Very few natlangs have the consonant /m/ but lack /n/.
Old Basque lacked /m/ but had /n/, and as far as I know it was the only nasal it had, so I can't see why I couldn't do the opposite... obviously more wackoed.
edit: everything with /ą/ is of course also an nasal.
Maoti wrote: Also it is odd that /b/ devoices but that /t/ and /k/ voice at the end of unconjugated verbs. If you want to make your language have a more naturalistic phonology, perhaps you could add the consonant /n/ and get rid of the devoicing of /b/.
We'll see. Right now I try to expand on the vowel system(which is abit out-of-date in the old post, because I have added an difference between stressed and low tone vowels. Link)
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Astraios wrote:Further proof that English is turning into Danish: I have stød in that word. :P
That's one feature that I can't distinguish in my speech. Should I record example words and post them for someone to pick apart?
[bɹ̠ˤʷɪs.təɫ]
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I have eventually decided to make my language have a /p/ gap rather than a /b/ gap, so that its phonology is more natural. So this is its finalized phonology:

Consonants:
Plosive: /b t d k g q ɢ/
Fricative: /s h/
Nasal: /m n ŋ ɴ/
Approximant: /l ʁ̞/

Vowels: /i a u/

Allophony:
/i/ and /u/ lower to [e] and [o] respectively when occurring before a uvular consonant, and this is shown in the orthography.

Syllable structure is (C)VC. Uvular consonants do not occur word-initially.
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Bristel wrote:
Astraios wrote:Further proof that English is turning into Danish: I have stød in that word. :P
That's one feature that I can't distinguish in my speech. Should I record example words and post them for someone to pick apart?
Are you from Denmark? I always thought stød was very interesting, but quite hard to recognize. Sometimes I'm convinced the only way Danes can distinguish between stød and non-stød words (especially monosyllabic) is by context. Its too ambiguous otherwise...

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Darkgamma wrote:OMG Now that you mention it, I have it as [stɹɛˤŋθ].
... Pretty sure you don't, because that's pharyngealized. :P

[sʨ(ɨ̯)ɛɨ̃(n)ˀt̻(θ)] is probably as close as I can guess I have it.

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Astraios wrote:[sʨ(ɨ̯)ɛɨ̃(n)ˀt̻(θ)]
*the fuck is this the fuck is that*-face
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Danglish? :P

It's definitely not a [ɹ] for me, and I've already told you what my /θ/ does.

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If it ever turns into [stəˀd̥ə], we're not friends anymore.
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I highly doubt it'll change that much. :P

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Astraios wrote:
Darkgamma wrote:OMG Now that you mention it, I have it as [stɹɛˤŋθ].
... Pretty sure you don't, because that's pharyngealized. :P

[sʨ(ɨ̯)ɛɨ̃(n)ˀt̻(θ)] is probably as close as I can guess I have it.
Correction: [stɹɛˀŋθ]
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Darkgamma wrote:
Astraios wrote:
Darkgamma wrote:OMG Now that you mention it, I have it as [stɹɛˤŋθ].
... Pretty sure you don't, because that's pharyngealized. :P

[sʨ(ɨ̯)ɛɨ̃(n)ˀt̻(θ)] is probably as close as I can guess I have it.
Correction: [stɹɛˀŋθ]
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Drydic Guy wrote:
Darkgamma wrote:
Astraios wrote:
Darkgamma wrote:OMG Now that you mention it, I have it as [stɹɛˤŋθ].
... Pretty sure you don't, because that's pharyngealized. :P

[sʨ(ɨ̯)ɛɨ̃(n)ˀt̻(θ)] is probably as close as I can guess I have it.
Correction: [stɹɛˀŋθ]
Will you stop correcting English speakers on how we speak our language

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Darkgamma wrote:
Drydic Guy wrote:
Darkgamma wrote:
Astraios wrote:
Darkgamma wrote:OMG Now that you mention it, I have it as [stɹɛˤŋθ].
... Pretty sure you don't, because that's pharyngealized. :P

[sʨ(ɨ̯)ɛɨ̃(n)ˀt̻(θ)] is probably as close as I can guess I have it.
Correction: [stɹɛˀŋθ]
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It's something like [sʈʂɹɨiŋkθ] for me.

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Retroflexes? Really?

[stɹeɪŋθ] for me, I think.
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I guess it's closer to /tS/ or something
It's weird, I don't know exactly what it is

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Strength is a weird word, it's something like [st͡ʃɹɛŋkθ] IMI.
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