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pʰ b tʰ d kʰ g
pʼ tʼ kʼ qʼ
tsʰ dz tʃʰ
tsʼ
f v θ s z ʃ x ɣ
m n
r l
a e i o
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pʰ b tʰ d kʰ g
pʼ tʼ kʼ qʼ
tsʰ dz tʃʰ
tsʼ
f v θ s z ʃ x ɣ
m n
r l
a e i o
Yeah, I got it from Arrente, although I've done a conlang or two with a dental/alveolar contrast before. I still need to work out all the allophony, which I've been putting off.finlay wrote:ripped straight from Arrernte i presume. It's also not clear whether they're unaspirated voiceless plosives or voiced plosives. Technically could be either, even when you consider Auslangs in general.Matt wrote:Yes, that is a four-way contrast between apico-alveolar, apico-postalveolar (i.e., retroflex), lamino-dental, and lamino-palatal.
Yeah, I don't like it either. I actually think I'm going to redo the vowel system. I usually default to a system of /a e i o/ and I wanted more vowels this time around, but I'm not crazy about the system I've got so far.finlay wrote:also <ö> isn't a very good choice for a back vowel.
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i e a o u
p t k kʷ
v s
m n ŋ
ts
w r l
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bilab ldnt. alve. p-alv velar glot.
stops p t c '
/p/ /t/ /k/ /ʔ/
nasals m n ñ
/m/ /n/ /ŋ/
fricatives fh vh f v s z x j kh gh h
/ɸ β/ /f v/ /s z/ /ʃ ʒ/ /x ɣ/ /h/
[lateral] lh
/ɬ/
trill rh r
/r̥ r/
approxmnts w[lab-vel], r[finally], y[pal]
/w/ [ɹ] /j/
[lateral] l
/l/
Plus three affricates:
č=tx /tʃ/,
ć=tlh /tɬ/,
tz=ts /ts/
:Vowels:
The low back vowels a,o can only be pronounced nasally (this is the main odd strangled bit). They aren't very common.
Front Central Back
Closed i ü u
/i y/ /u/
Mid-Closed é
/e/ ë /ə/
Mid-Open e ö õ
/ɛ œ/ /ɔ̃/
Open ã
/ã/
*apart from the fragments "Nimotikonam Finlay", or 'nimoti-ko-nam Finlay', or 'name-is-my Finlay', or "My name is Finlay",Tempikimon Pronounciation
CONSANANTS
letters b, d, f, h, k ,l, m, n, p, s, t, z same as in English
C - pronounced 'ts'
G - always pronounced hard as in 'get'
J - pronounced as 'y' in english
Q - pronounced 'ch'
R - trilled
V - pronounced 'w'
W - pronounced 'v'
[then in a little box to the side]
also
TH as in English
'KH' as in 'loch'
CH as in English
SH as in English
[then on the back]
Vowels
A - as 'a'
E - as 'e'
I - as 'ee'
O - as 'o'
U - as 'u' in 'bum'
Y - as 'ü' in German 'für'
To the first, *shrug* and the to second...I think it's a gross sound, and it doesn't seem to fit? Technically, I'm thinking of /k_j/ which would probably be [c].Guitarplayer wrote:Why [kʲ], not [c]? Also, why no [pʷ]?
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p t ʔ
v ɬ ð ɣ
m
r l j ʀ
[i]pʼ tʼ f θ x[/i]
ɪɑ ue ɛʉ
i: ɪ u: o e æ: a
Haha, actually it was a joke, but I *might* just make something out of it. Rotokas and Pirahã have fewer than 10 phonemes so it has potential. Maybe.XinuX wrote:First thought: ooh, minimalist. I assume the name is an exonym.Lordshrew wrote:Mrgsabian:Code: Select all
t kxː d gɣː i y
Second thought: Wait, is this a joke?
Third thought: No, it's too almost-vaguely-bizarro-plausible to be a joke.
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p pʲ b bʲ t tʲ d dʲ k kʷ gʷ
m mʲ n nʲ ɲ ŋ
ts tɕ tɕʷ dʑʷ
f fʲ s ʃ ɕ x
ɾ ɾʲ l lʲ w ɥ j h
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i ʏ e ø ɛ a o u
əi ei oi œʏ aʏ au eu ɪu
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p b t d k g
m n
tʃ
s χ h
r l ʋ̃ j w
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i i: y y: e e: ɛ ɛ: a a: ɔ ɔ: o o: u u:
ai a:i ay au ei e:i ey eu ou
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p p' b t t' d k k' g
m n ŋ
s ʃ x ɣ χ
l r j w
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i i: e e: a a: o o: u u:
As interesting as everyone's phonologies have been, I think yours interests me the most, particularly because it reminds me of Icelandic, only not really...*Ceresz wrote:My current project's phoneme inventory.
I don't think I will change the orthography, but I thank you for the your other tips . I have actually been thinking about changing /E/ and /O/ to /e/ and /o/ respectively.finlay wrote:Argh! <é> for /ə/!
I do quite thing that one should keep to some extent to extant orthographic practices; and é isn't really ever used for /ə/ (in Icelandic it's /je/). You could get away with è though.
Also, when presenting it, put /ə/ on the same row as /e/ and /o/ and call it the mid level. When you don't have the distinction between open-mid and close-mid you tend to get something in between which doesn't really have an IPA symbol; indeed, you would also want to call them /e/ and /o/ rather than /ɛ/ and /ɔ/ for simplicity's sake. This will especially be the case for your conlang because you already have rather a lot of open vowels (too many for my liking) and having two vowels that are specifically open-mid rather than just mid makes it even worse... ([æ] and [ɛ] aren't that far apart, in particular).
This is one area where the IPA chart isn't really clear enough and overspecifies. Just call them mid if you don't have two levels, essentially.
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/i i\ u/
/e @ /
/ a A /
/i~ i\~ u~/
/e~ /
/ a~ A~ /
/ai ei @i Ai/
/ai\ ei\ @u Au/
/ i@ u@ /
/e6 i6 i\6 u6 o6/
/ai~ i@~ e@~/
/ t_> ts)_> tK)_> tS)_> k_> q_> ?/
/p t ts) tK) tS) k q /
/b_t d_t dZ_t g_t G\_t /
/b_k d_k /
/f T s K S x X h/
/v_t D_t z_t l_t Z G_t R_t /
/v_k D_k z_k l_k /
/m_0 n_0 j_0 w_0 R\_0 /
/m_t n_t l~_t j_t w_t R\_t /
/m_k n_k l~_k j_k w_k R\_k /